What Culture is the most ESP?

[ALAMGIR]

What culture or society do you think is the most ESP? I would think Puerto Rico, Brazil, and the Dominican Republic. The most ISJ I think is Japan and Saudi Arabia.

[sircockburn]

yeah, anywhere in the Americas. Possibly places like Italy as well, but not as much.

[Othesemo]

Las Vegas.

[sentientbeing]

Pop Culture

[sircockburn]

Pop Culture

Yogurt culture is undoubtedly INJ. Unassuming, invisible, and sour. :3

[childofprodigy]

Go to the nearest night club in town

[MaybeThanh]

I spent three months in Ghana, and most of them seemed ESFP's. Might not be true, but there definitely was an ESFP vibe going on there.

[MrFlaneur]

Possibly Oz or New Zealand. Britain perhaps? A nation full of pissheads passing the buck, taking no responsibility for their own actions, total resistance to new ideas and spending half of their lives in supermarkets buying gluttonous impulse junk.

[Uriel]

Philippines. ESFP


always late
unreliable Ps
talkative and loud
always make excuses
always hang out in groups
refusal to say anything directly
like to appeal to emotions / guilt / pity
refusal to take accountability for their words
nobody is allowed to stand out as individuals
everyone is expected to conform to the group
full of shopping malls where people waste their time
extremely sensitive to criticisms and take them personally

[mastermind23]

The U.S. nowadays

[ClydeB]

Saw the title of the thread and thought Extra Sensory Perception.

[zaleplonsonata]

the Jersey Shore

[Jalex]

What culture or society do you think is the most ESP? I would think Puerto Rico, Brazil, and the Dominican Republic. The most ISJ I think is Japan and Saudi Arabia.

Why?


Philippines. ESFP


always late
unreliable Ps
talkative and loud
always make excuses
always hang out in groups
refusal to say anything directly
like to appeal to emotions / guilt / pity
refusal to take accountability for their words
nobody is allowed to stand out as individuals
everyone is expected to conform to the group
full of shopping malls where people waste their time
extremely sensitive to criticisms and take them personally


I dated a filipino girl and hanged out with a group of them for a while, let's see...


Yeah a little late
Completly reliable PS
Talkative nto loud
Never with an excuse
Never in groups
Always very direct
Never the victim
If she said it she did it.
She outsands the media
She never conforms to the group
This is more like the US
Very objective


Hmmmmmmm

[Uriel]

I dated a filipino girl and hanged out with a group of them for a while, let's see...


Yeah a little late
Completly reliable PS
Talkative nto loud
Never with an excuse
Never in groups
Always very direct
Never the victim
If she said it she did it.
She outsands the media
She never conforms to the group
This is more like the US
Very objective


Hmmmmmmm

Where did you date this Filipino girl, Mr. Canada?

[ALAMGIR]

Why?

For Puerto Rico, look at this video (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. AQ_TkXPQ&ei=S8_ETdDaDYWT0QGN-qiXCA&usg=AFQjCNEEIorOxGUG4O68uBH77QeskD1jHQ).

[Antares]

America. Hands down. I've seen a lot of countries around the world and it's the most ESxP I've seen. Maybe except for Thailand.

[MrFlaneur]

Philippines. ESFP


always late
unreliable Ps
talkative and loud
always make excuses
always hang out in groups
refusal to say anything directly
like to appeal to emotions / guilt / pity
refusal to take accountability for their words
nobody is allowed to stand out as individuals
everyone is expected to conform to the group
full of shopping malls where people waste their time
extremely sensitive to criticisms and take them personally


circumcision parties are fun fun fun!

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[Uriel]

circumcision parties are fun fun fun!

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I believe circumcision is a rite of passage in that country. Maybe it's because of Catholicism. Though the way they do it is very E.

[ctiquila]

Philippines. ESFP


always late
unreliable Ps
talkative and loud
always make excuses
always hang out in groups
refusal to say anything directly
like to appeal to emotions / guilt / pity
refusal to take accountability for their words
nobody is allowed to stand out as individuals
everyone is expected to conform to the group
full of shopping malls where people waste their time
extremely sensitive to criticisms and take them personally


Wow. We're not all like that.
As an INTJ and a filipina, I hate being late, I'm rarely loud, and I believe in honesty and integrity no matter the consequence. My parents expected us to excel at everything, I dislike malls, and large groups anywhere frighten me. But I love having fun, especially with the people I know best.

[Sinequanon]

This is an absurd question. Every culture has every type. What you really mean by it is "Which shallow cultural stereotype can I pin to which shallow MBTI stereotype?"

[Uriel]

Wow. We're not all like that.
As an INTJ and a filipina, I hate being late, I'm rarely loud, and I believe in honesty and integrity no matter the consequence. My parents expected us to excel at everything, I dislike malls, and large groups anywhere frighten me. But I love having fun, especially with the people I know best.

So you at least agree that there are people in Philippine culture that are like that? I am merely describing the culture as an entity in and of itself, and it is not in any way a description of every individual within that culture. Perhaps you do not fit these general descriptions because you're INTJ. I have a question though: Does it irritate the living hell out of you that so many people in Philippine culture are diametrically opposite your personality?

This is an absurd question. Every culture has every type. What you really mean by it is "Which shallow cultural stereotype can I pin to which shallow MBTI stereotype?"

It may touch a sensitive nerve, but it's not absurd. While it's true that individuals of all types exist within a culture, the culture itself develops a type of its own. As a result, the culture's type has at the very least an impact on the individual based on the individual's type.

Ask an Introverted person about SE-Asian culture. Ask an Extroverted person about Swiss culture. They will have something to say about it. I trust an outsider's perspective more.

[Humble Bragger]

This is an absurd question. Every culture has every type. What you really mean by it is "Which shallow cultural stereotype can I pin to which shallow MBTI stereotype?"
As much as I agree that you can't generalise a whole country to a simple type he did ask for specific cultures (albeit hard to prove by telling limited experiences and posting a music video).

Being from ethiopian descent I can say that the E is very valued while the I is heavily looked down upon. The S is also prefered but the N isn't discouraged. I have seen this pattern in people of other african countries too but I have too little data to back that up.

[ALAMGIR]

As much as I agree that you can't generalise a whole country to a simple type he did ask for specific cultures (albeit hard to prove by telling limited experiences and posting a music video).

Being from ethiopian descent I can say that the E is very valued while the I is heavily looked down upon. The S is also prefered but the N isn't discouraged. I have seen this pattern in people of other african countries too but I have too little data to back that up.

I agree that you can't generalize a whole country to a particular MBTI type, it can't be disputed that different cultures have as their general values and customs a preference for certain functions and attitudes over others. I listed Puerto Rico as an example, because having grown up around many of this culture on the mainland, and having decent amount of knowledge of their homeland, I can, based on empirical evidence, say that as a whole, Puerto Rican culture is very ESFP. Very in the moment, and very emotional. Looking ahead to the future (inferior Ni) is very poorly emphasized. In a nutshell, a "warm culture". Same goes for Dominican Republic and Brazil.

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As for most cultures which originated in warm cultures, planning ahead for future situations may not have been that important due to the fact that days were long, and crops were available year round (ESP), as opposed to East Asian and Northern European cultures, which had shorter days, and brutal winters where nothing can be grown, so planning ahead became a necessary focal point in these cultures (ITJ). Just a theory...

[Uriel]

I agree that you can't generalize a whole country to a particular MBTI type, it can't be disputed that different cultures have as their general values and customs a preference for certain functions and attitudes over others. I listed Puerto Rico as an example, because having grown up around many of this culture on the mainland, and having decent amount of knowledge of their homeland, I can, based on empirical evidence, say that as a whole, Puerto Rican culture is very ESFP. Very in the moment, and very emotional. Looking ahead to the future (inferior Ni) is very poorly emphasized. In a nutshell, a "warm culture". Same goes for Dominican Republic and Brazil.

---------- Post added 05-08-2011 at 02:09 PM ----------

As for most cultures which originated in warm cultures, planning ahead for future situations may not have been that important due to the fact that days were long, and crops were available year round (ESP), as opposed to East Asian and Northern European cultures, which had shorter days, and brutal winters where nothing can be grown, so planning ahead became a necessary focal point in these cultures (ITJ). Just a theory...

What's the dominant Religion in those warm cultures you mentioned? Do you think there's a cause between the two, or is it merely a corollary?

[ALAMGIR]

Catholiscm is the predominant religion in most Latin American and Southern European cultures, but in both regions religion is mainly a part of custom not a moral imperative. As for other warm cultures, such as the Middle East and Africa, Islam is the largest religion, followed by Christianity and tribal religions. These hold more of a sway on those culture's morals and behaviors. So yes religion, IMO, does a play a role in the general attitudes of different cultures. The warm cultures of the middle east and africa are more of SJ than SP, but definitely not NT (in general).