Back off I’ll take you on

[Headstrong]

Headstrong to take on anyone.

Hey there. My name is Julie. I'm 18 and a college freshman majoring in Psychology.

I stumbled upon this forum a few weeks ago and liked what I saw. I look foward to conversing with fellow INTJs and sharing insights. I have only known one other (female) INTJ in my life. *We were best friends all the way up until high school.

[The Rose]

Welcome to the forum! :)

[qwerty]

"Headstrong, Back off I’ll take you on"
Hmmm what makes you think you need to defend yourself from the outside world? Do you think we're all zombies trying to suck out your brains? And your a Psychology major? What does that say about you as a person? You honest thoughts and opinions ;).

Welcome.

[Ijz]

I don't have any quarrel with you but if you must, BRING IT ON

Oh and welcome :)

[Headstrong]

"Headstrong, Back off I’ll take you on"
Hmmm what makes you think you need to defend yourself from the outside world? Do you think we're all zombies trying to suck out your brains? And your a Psychology major? What does that say about you as a person? You honest thoughts and opinions ;).

Welcome.

So many questions...

I'm a pretty stubborn person, so headstrong seemed like an appropriate synonym. Headstrong by Trapt is also a pretty awesome song period. But no, I do not feel like I need to defend myself from the outside world. I just wish they would take the time to understand me.

As far as zombies go, no. But perhaps you are the exception?

My major...I took a psychology course first semester of senior year and fell in love with it. I even did (and finished early) a science fair project on personality types. Yeah, I'm mildly obsessed.

I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? ;D


I don't have any quarrel with you but if you must, BRING IT ON

Oh and welcome :)

Oh, I'll bring it. Rest assured.

Nice to meet you too. :P

[qwerty]

I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? ;D


You answered well, but I'm sure I could break down your wall.

So tell me does this mean you have commitment issues? :)
Are you scared that someone will use your inner secrets against you?
Are you afraid of yourself?

[Ijz]

Oh, I'll bring it. Rest assured.

While qwerty is taking the direct approach and keeps you distracted I'm going to try and sneak in through the backdoor.

You'll never know what hit you....

[mind_wander]

Don't worry, I'll jump in and take her away from INTJ loonies, lol. Way too many INTJness overload for Headstrong. Remember stay claim and try not to scare off INTJ newbies. Since this forum is like gaining, like 3 new INTJ per day. Although, INTJ's are hard to find now a days, so why even bother to scare them off? Ok, does this comfort you Headstrong?

[Firelie]

Great, now I have to go ALL THE WAY down to the garage and dig up that damn CD so I can get the song out of my head...

[Headstrong]

I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? ;D


You answered well, but I'm sure I could break down your wall.

So tell me does this mean you have commitment issues? :)
Are you scared that someone will use your inner secrets against you?
Are you afraid of yourself?

Go for it. It'd be refreshing for someone to actually work at it instead of run.

Yes, I do have commitment issues.

I am not scared that someone will use my inner secrets against me. I don't have any secrets, just skill. 8-)

I am not afraid of myself in the least bit. I'm quite comfortable.



Oh, I'll bring it. Rest assured.

While qwerty is taking the direct approach and keeps you distracted I'm going to try and sneak in through the backdoor.

You'll never know what hit you....


Hah. Too bad I threw the dead-bolt? I picked up the obsessive compulsive door locking trait from my mother.



Don't worry, I'll jump in and take her away from INTJ loonies, lol. Way too many INTJness overload for Headstrong. Remember stay claim and try not to scare off INTJ newbies. Since this forum is like gaining, like 3 new INTJ per day. Although, INTJ's are hard to find now a days, so why even bother to scare them off? Ok, does this comfort you Headstrong?

If I ever need saving, I'll be sure to let you know. No worries, though, it'll be pretty much impossible to scare me off. If anything, qwerty will end up teaching me something.



Great, now I have to go ALL THE WAY down to the garage and dig up that damn CD so I can get the song out of my head...

;D Don't you hate when that happens? [As I laugh at your misfortune :-X].

[mind_wander]

Great, now I have to go ALL THE WAY down to the garage and dig up that damn CD so I can get the song out of my head...
I never heard of that song, but this does happens to me. A certain song keeps playing in my head, darn it, not again. Check out on youtube and try to get the name, before it bothers me. Don't you hate when, you supposed to be paying attention to something important, then all of a sudden the music starts rolling in your mind. Then, you wondering should you sing along or tell yourself, darn it. Brain knock it off, I'm listening to something important. I will get back to you!

[qwerty]

I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? ;D


You answered well, but I'm sure I could break down your wall.

So tell me does this mean you have commitment issues? :)
Are you scared that someone will use your inner secrets against you?
Are you afraid of yourself?

Go for it. It'd be refreshing for someone to actually work at it instead of run.

Yes, I do have commitment issues.

I am not scared that someone will use my inner secrets against me. I don't have any secrets, just skill. 8-)

I am not afraid of myself in the least bit. I'm quite comfortable.

Ok then what is you deepest secret? What is the one thing you have never told another person?
To be fair I'll divulge my deepest secret is that I will never finish climbing the mountain and I'll leave everybody behind for nothing.

Do your commitment issues relate to you secret? How can you have commitment issues without being afraid of what people think? Are you an idealist in the relationship department, do you strive for the perfect guy without seeking perfection through practice from within? Are you afraid of being locked down and shackled to the ground by a guy?

[Headstrong]

I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? *;D


You answered well, but I'm sure I could break down your wall.

So tell me does this mean you have commitment issues? :)
Are you scared that someone will use your inner secrets against you?
Are you afraid of yourself?

Go for it. It'd be refreshing for someone to actually work at it instead of run.

Yes, I do have commitment issues.

I am not scared that someone will use my inner secrets against me. I don't have any secrets, just skill. * 8-)

I am not afraid of myself in the least bit. I'm quite comfortable.

Ok then what is you deepest secret? What is the one thing you have never told another person?
To be fair I'll divulge my deepest secret is that I will never finish climbing the mountain and I'll leave everybody behind for nothing.

Do your commitment issues relate to you secret? How can you have commitment issues without being afraid of what people think? Are you an idealist in the relationship department, do you strive for the perfect guy without seeking perfection through practice from within? Are you afraid of being locked down and shackled to the ground by a guy?

Like I said, I do not think I have a secret. Perhaps it is subconscious or I just assume people know it?

My commitment issues relate to my fickleness. When I am single, there are occasions when I wouldn't mind being in a relationship. When I am in a relationship, I can't stop thinking about when it will end. Being single is just easier. All I have to worry about is myself.

[aelan]

hey, another psych major..

Welcome!

[Headstrong]

hey, another psych major..

Welcome!

Thank you. :) Have you decided on a specific area of study in psychology?

[cielo market]

Great, now I have to go ALL THE WAY down to the garage and dig up that damn CD so I can get the song out of my head...

Yeah I got the guitar riff on loop inside my brain. Thanks a lot Headstrong!
Ahh, good song though. So you get 10 Welcome Points* *;)

*Welcome Points are Non-Redeemable. No Cash Value. Haha.

[Firelie]

Thanks Mind Wander, I completely forgot about Youtube *gets lazy and looks it up*

And since you haven't heard it before, here ya go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jfyPxvdmwv0

[qwerty]

Like I said, I do not think I have a secret. Perhaps it is subconscious or I just assume people know it?

My commitment issues relate to my fickleness. When I am single, there are occasions when I wouldn't mind being in a relationship. When I am in a relationship, I can't stop thinking about when it will end. Being single is just easier. All I have to worry about is myself.

So you're not sure about what you want... Hmm that's interesting :)

What can't you make up your mind? Don't you have a desire? Where does your ambition lie? What are you thinking about right this second (you have nothing to hide, so type it in)?

[thegnat]

qwerty did you play a lot of team bonding games? Your questions remind me of them...hehe. I hold a lot of things back so yeah I do hide things :suspicious: I actually am surprised there isn't something you don't tell people. But then if there is you probably don't want to tell it here do you? ;)

anywho Welcome Headstrong! I'll take YOU on ;) Now if I can get the song out of my head....

[rwyatt365]

Isn't it wonderful to come into a forum and be bombarded with questions? Kinda makes you fell all paranoid inside, huh! :P

Welcome Headstrong!

[qwerty]

qwerty did you play a lot of team bonding games? Your questions remind me of them...hehe. I hold a lot of things back so yeah I do hide things :suspicious: I actually am surprised there isn't something you don't tell people. But then if there is you probably don't want to tell it here do you? ;)

anywho Welcome Headstrong! I'll take YOU on ;) Now if I can get the song out of my head....

Depends on team building games your talking about... The only way I could ever be around people was to ask questions because nobody could work me out and talk about anything I was interested in at my level (nerdy kid who used to take notes about programming, take them home, write a program in a notebook, bring them back to school and compile them). But yes I do lock secrets away, like you, maybe one day someone will be worth explaining them to but I'm yet to meet them.

[mind_wander]

qwerty did you play a lot of team bonding games? *Your questions remind me of them...hehe. *I hold a lot of things back so yeah I do hide things *:suspicious: *I actually am surprised there isn't something you don't tell people. *But then if there is you probably don't want to tell it here do you? ;)

anywho Welcome Headstrong! I'll take YOU on ;) Now if I can get the song out of my head....
Lol, lucky we passed the compability test, darn thats alot of questions for a newbie INTJ. Hm.. I felt like this more, like Do you qualify as an INTJ? Here is 100+ questions, once your done, how about another 100+ more. Not bad, Headstrong handling so much questions. So qwerty, are you interrogating, if she will breakdown, as an INTJ? or make her cry, LOL.

[mind_wander]

I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? *;D


You answered well, but I'm sure I could break down your wall.

So tell me does this mean you have commitment issues? :)
Are you scared that someone will use your inner secrets against you?
Are you afraid of yourself?

Go for it. It'd be refreshing for someone to actually work at it instead of run.

Yes, I do have commitment issues.

I am not scared that someone will use my inner secrets against me. I don't have any secrets, just skill. * 8-)

I am not afraid of myself in the least bit. I'm quite comfortable.

Ok then what is you deepest secret? What is the one thing you have never told another person?
To be fair I'll divulge my deepest secret is that I will never finish climbing the mountain and I'll leave everybody behind for nothing.

Do your commitment issues relate to you secret? How can you have commitment issues without being afraid of what people think? Are you an idealist in the relationship department, do you strive for the perfect guy without seeking perfection through practice from within? Are you afraid of being locked down and shackled to the ground by a guy?

Like I said, I do not think I have a secret. Perhaps it is subconscious or I just assume people know it?

My commitment issues relate to my fickleness. When I am single, there are occasions when I wouldn't mind being in a relationship. When I am in a relationship, I can't stop thinking about when it will end. Being single is just easier. All I have to worry about is myself.
We called them Self Issues, plenty more on the INTJ plate.

[mind_wander]

Thanks Mind Wander, I completely forgot about Youtube *gets lazy and looks it up* *

And since you haven't heard it before, here ya go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jfyPxvdmwv0
Interesting video, thanx for searching, felt lost in transition without viewing it. In exchange, here is some Chinese MV. I think the music rhythm is self-explaintory.

here is some:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyG4qzqJ_c [Nan Quan Ma Ma - Mu Dan Jiang]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7mZRSh0iIs [Nan Quan Ma Ma- daybreak]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I375bGFEfcw [Nan Quan Ma Ma- What can I do? with love]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vms7YQIXf8g

Some of these songs, really get stuck in my head with many others. Very nice, for INTJ's, if you can flex your *"F' temperament it does sounds much better. As for an INTJ, using the "T" side, some of the instrumental intrigue you. As for the "P", listen to the music rhythm, otherwise zone out.

[aelan]

hey, another psych major..

Welcome!

Thank you. *:) Have you decided on a specific area of study in psychology?

No, but I'm really interested in the unconscious mind. We read a little Freud in one of my classes, but other than that I don't think there are any courses at my school that really go into it.

Are you studying anything specific? Do you have a minor?

[Headstrong]

I have never used the quote button this much in my entire life... *take a deep breath* Here we go....


Great, now I have to go ALL THE WAY down to the garage and dig up that damn CD so I can get the song out of my head...

Yeah I got the guitar riff on loop inside my brain. Thanks a lot Headstrong!
Ahh, good song though. So you get 10 Welcome Points* *;)

*Welcome Points are Non-Redeemable. No Cash Value. Haha.

Sweeeeet. Thanks. *:)




Like I said, I do not think I have a secret. Perhaps it is subconscious or I just assume people know it?

My commitment issues relate to my fickleness. When I am single, there are occasions when I wouldn't mind being in a relationship. When I am in a relationship, I can't stop thinking about when it will end. Being single is just easier. All I have to worry about is myself.

So you're not sure about what you want... Hmm that's interesting :)

What can't you make up your mind? Don't you have a desire? Where does your ambition lie? What are you thinking about right this second (you have nothing to hide, so type it in)?

No, I know what I want. There are only about 4 or 5 musts, but I don't think there is a guy out there who is single that could meet them all. Blame it on the INTJ's high expectations/standards for herself and others. And no, I've never really had a desire, especially in the physical department...which the guys don't really dig. My ambition(s) in a relationship or life? I'm thinking about all the other posts I have to reply to. *;D



qwerty did you play a lot of team bonding games? *Your questions remind me of them...hehe. *I hold a lot of things back so yeah I do hide things *:suspicious: *I actually am surprised there isn't something you don't tell people. *But then if there is you probably don't want to tell it here do you? ;)

anywho Welcome Headstrong! I'll take YOU on ;) Now if I can get the song out of my head....

Thank you. Always up for a contest. *:)



Isn't it wonderful to come into a forum and be bombarded with questions? Kinda makes you fell all paranoid inside, huh! *:P

Welcome Headstrong!

It was unexpected to say the least. I don't really feel paranoid...it just a headache. No thanks in part to the 3 hour night classes I attend beforehand.



qwerty did you play a lot of team bonding games? *Your questions remind me of them...hehe. *I hold a lot of things back so yeah I do hide things *:suspicious: *I actually am surprised there isn't something you don't tell people. *But then if there is you probably don't want to tell it here do you? ;)

anywho Welcome Headstrong! I'll take YOU on ;) Now if I can get the song out of my head....
Lol, lucky we passed the compability test, darn thats alot of questions for a newbie INTJ. Hm.. I felt like this more, like Do you qualify as an INTJ? Here is 100+ questions, once your done, how about another 100+ more. Not bad, Headstrong handling so much questions. So qwerty, are you interrogating, if she will breakdown, as an INTJ? or make her cry, LOL.

I will never break down! [smiley=sneaky.gif] Psh, and an INTJ cry? Unheard of...




I always wondered if if there was something wrong with me because of the questions people asked. "Are you bored?" "Why don't you talk?" "Smile!" Oh, and the imfamous one in realationships..."Why don't you ever let your guard down? It's like you always have a wall up that can't be broken down." I was so glad when our teacher introduced us to the personality types. I gained a lot of insight into myself and the people around me.

Does all that answer your questions? *;D


You answered well, but I'm sure I could break down your wall.

So tell me does this mean you have commitment issues? :)
Are you scared that someone will use your inner secrets against you?
Are you afraid of yourself?

Go for it. It'd be refreshing for someone to actually work at it instead of run.

Yes, I do have commitment issues.

I am not scared that someone will use my inner secrets against me. I don't have any secrets, just skill. * 8-)

I am not afraid of myself in the least bit. I'm quite comfortable.

Ok then what is you deepest secret? What is the one thing you have never told another person?
To be fair I'll divulge my deepest secret is that I will never finish climbing the mountain and I'll leave everybody behind for nothing.

Do your commitment issues relate to you secret? How can you have commitment issues without being afraid of what people think? Are you an idealist in the relationship department, do you strive for the perfect guy without seeking perfection through practice from within? Are you afraid of being locked down and shackled to the ground by a guy?

Like I said, I do not think I have a secret. Perhaps it is subconscious or I just assume people know it?

My commitment issues relate to my fickleness. When I am single, there are occasions when I wouldn't mind being in a relationship. When I am in a relationship, I can't stop thinking about when it will end. Being single is just easier. All I have to worry about is myself.
We called them Self Issues, plenty more on the INTJ plate.

Perhaps worry was the wrong word? I'll rephrase that. "All I have to think about/take care of is myself." I think I'm quite good at that by now. :)



hey, another psych major..

Welcome!

Thank you. *:) Have you decided on a specific area of study in psychology?

No, but I'm really interested in the unconscious mind. *We read a little Freud in one of my classes, but other than that I don't think there are any courses at my school that really go into it.

Are you studying anything specific? *Do you have a minor? *

Nope, I'm taking gen. eds. right now. I'm quite interested in personality types, although that isn't very popular or 'realistic' for my future aparently. I don't know. I'm going for the full blown PhD., which I will be hard. It's worth it to me and that's all that matters. If I don't become a psychologist, I may choose to be a Professor. I go where life takes me.

[Bossy Mom]

Hi! When you become a mother, you will probably want my screen name! Welcome!

[Ijz]

Hey Headstrong,

Considering the number of grammar errors in your last post I'm going to assume that you are tired. So that makes this the perfect time to strike. On a serious note, I used to have my guard up all the time when I was younger. I think it had to with my parents divorcing at a for me critical age. My dad was saying horrible things about my mom and vice versa. I remember my brother once telling me that I didn't have any feelings because I didn't cry and acted as if I didn't care. He had no idea... Anyway I envisioned that my mind was stronger than anything else and no-one could crush me whatever they did (seem familiar?). For that particular time it was good to have a shield around me. However as time passed the guard remained and prevented me from enjoying certain aspects of life. This was a long time ago and I've matured as a person. Bit by bit I've been able to peel away my grudges, misunderstandings, guards and other oddities. Now I no longer need a shield or guard. I accept everything and everyone for what they are. Everyone has their reasons for acting a certain way. Its not up to me to judge them. The best I can do is show them a different path.

So whats your excuse for having such an attitude?

Your turn.

Shields up Mr Zulu! ;)

[qwerty]

I have never used the quote button this much in my entire life... *take a deep breath* Here we go....

No, I know what I want. There are only about 4 or 5 musts, but I don't think there is a guy out there who is single that could meet them all. Blame it on the INTJ's high expectations/standards for herself and others. And no, I've never really had a desire, especially in the physical department...which the guys don't really dig. My ambition(s) in a relationship or life? I'm thinking about all the other posts I have to reply to. ;D




Ok last one as otherwise you may be scared off. If you want to keep going let me know.

You say their are 4-5 musts, you say you are open, you say there are things you assume people know. You say there is a wall. But you never say what is behind anything, there is just a trail that stops all of a sudden.
I can continue to ask you questions and dig away at you, but you need to think hard about the reason why you change your mind? You hint but when it gets close to writing down what you think you pull away.

Don't expect me to understand or anyone else for that matter. I've said I keep my secrets, I tried to explain them once and was just starred at with an expression that labelled me as a freak. The person didn't understand. The thing that made it worth while is that I understood myself better as I had been forced to take the ideas out of my head and put them into some context, whether is was interpreted the wrong or right way didn't matter.

In regards to your ambitions I was talking about life mainly.

[Ijz]

Ok last one as otherwise you may be scared off. If you want to keep going let me know.

Nah, she's tough, she'll stay.

[Firelie]

No, I know what I want. There are only about 4 or 5 musts, but I don't think there is a guy out there who is single that could meet them all. Blame it on the INTJ's high expectations/standards for herself and others. And no, I've never really had a desire, especially in the physical department...which the guys don't really dig.

I know what you mean. People keep telling me I should settle for something less than what I want in a man because I'm too demanding, but I refuse to lower my standards and be in a relationship that is unsatisfying.

[wolf]

Anyone that has been in a relationship or otherwise close to someone unsuitable has lowered their standards.

It is one of the other bad things - I'm a loser, but I have high standards. Nobody that could meet them would want anything to do with me. So, on top of nobody having an interest, I would outright reject anyone that wasn't up to them at this point. Lowering one's standards isn't worth it.

[mind_wander]

In that case, the only person can really match that is an INTJ's. Unless, you also reject INTJ's, so uncool :thumbsdown:

[bucolic_]

I hope this doesn't mean you actually like that song.... >:( :P Welcome ;D

[Max T]

Honestly! * Between IjzerenHein's 'quid pro quo' approach (I'll tell you my situation if you...') juxtaposed with qwerty's direct 'solicit a confrontation' angle, we had a real good cop bad cop situation going on! *;D


This is the most viewed introduction post yet at 400+ views. * Why?

Apart from "back off I'll take you on" being a red rag to some INTJs, perhaps the psychology student in Headstrong was using something akin to the 'white bear' effect in psychology.
Asked NOT to think of a white bear, people just cannot help picturing one.
Asked to "back off"... and we just have to click that introduction post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_bear_principle

I was thinking "that is the neatest way to get everyone to read all about you".
Just cannot figure out if that was the intention or not, anyways...

Welcome to the forum Headstrong. *Enjoy. :thumbsup:

[Headstrong]

Just letting you all know that I'm alive and haven't been scared away. Life has been busy with college. I just finished a psychology paper on classical conditioning and I don't feel like going to bed yet...even though I have to get up for class in less than five hours.


Honestly! * Between IjzerenHein's 'quid pro quo' approach (I'll tell you my situation if you...') juxtaposed with qwerty's direct 'solicit a confrontation' angle, we had a real good cop bad cop situation going on! *;D


This is the most viewed introduction post yet at 400+ views. * Why?

Apart from "back off I'll take you on" being a red rag to some INTJs, perhaps the psychology student in Headstrong was using something akin to the 'white bear' effect in psychology.
Asked NOT to think of a white bear, people just cannot help picturing one.
Asked to "back off"... and we just have to click that introduction post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_bear_principle

I was thinking "that is the neatest way to get everyone to read all about you".
Just cannot figure out if that was the intention or not, anyways...

Welcome to the forum Headstrong. *Enjoy. :thumbsup:

I was hoping someone would mention this. Hah. I was aiming for something other than the norm when I first decided to join. I've been on other forums before and the usual "hello" and boring username doesn't get you much attention or get people interested. By posting song lyrics to my user name in the title, I figured I'd turn some heads and get some good feedback. I'm honored to be the only introduction thread with over 450 views. :) And thanks for the welcome. I like your analytical approach to my thread. Kudos to you!