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Snowdragon
06-05-2008, 11:59 AM
What's it going to be like to have Barack Obama (an NF) in the white house? How would an NF run the country?

azelismia
06-05-2008, 12:22 PM
What's it going to be like to have Barack Obama (an NF) in the white house? How would an NF run the country?


What makes you so sure that obama is an NF?

Snowdragon
06-05-2008, 01:37 PM
It says so here :)

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Hope this helps.

azelismia
06-05-2008, 01:46 PM
It says so here :)

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Hope this helps.


that is just the authors opinion. the candidates did not take the test. It's like if I wrote an article and stated that Obama was this type because I read a couple books and looked at him and thought, he's this type! and then proclaimed it to the world it was so..

that's just her opinion. I think it's open for debate what type obama is.

curiousjane
06-05-2008, 02:40 PM
I hope you are not presuming that an NF is incapable of leadership. I would think empathy would come in handy during times of diplomacy.

I am neither an Obama supporter nor rejecter. I waited for the Democratic party to make up its collective mind before I decided to research up on their chosen candidate. I guess that means I have to go find out what this man is all about.

I will say I felt strangely drawn to his "Yes We Can" video. But it is an emotional plea, I recognize that. And no matter how good an orator he may or may not be, I will never vote based on feelings alone. I vote my conscience, and my desire for my country's future.

azelismia
06-05-2008, 02:44 PM
It has nothing to do with if an NF would be a capable leader or not. I am questioning if Barack is indeed an NF. that seems like an assumption to me. with that in mind, I think it's unlikely that an NF would ever make their way to the white house. Idealists would be more likely to be eaten alive on that sort of path.

sriv
06-05-2008, 02:47 PM
I hope you are not presuming that an NF is incapable of leadership. I would think empathy would come in handy during times of diplomacy.


Agreed.

Gandhi made a good leader.
MLK made a good leader.
Jesus...
Lincoln...
Mandela...
and lots more.

azelismia
06-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Agreed.

Gandhi made a good leader.
MLK made a good leader.
Jesus...
Lincoln...
Mandela...
and lots more.


what makes you so sure all of these people were NF. maybe they were maybe they weren't.

sriv
06-05-2008, 03:35 PM
what makes you so sure all of these people were NF. maybe they were maybe they weren't.

Show me the proof that they aren't.

wolf
06-05-2008, 03:39 PM
Likelihood of Obama winning: Comically-low.

But it's a good exercise.

We've probably had one before, so find some that can be used for comparison.

curiousjane
06-05-2008, 07:04 PM
Just a quick perusal of the MyPersonality.Info page brought up the following alleged NFs in positions of political leadership:

ENFJ
Francois Mitterand - French President
# King David - King of Israel

INFJ
# Martin Van Buren - American President
# Nelson Mandela - President of South Africa

INFP
# Princess Diana - Princess of Wales

BallentineChen
06-05-2008, 07:23 PM
Idealists would be more likely to be eaten alive on that sort of path.

I think that the assumption that an NF would get eaten alive in politics is as baseless as those that equate his message of hope with being an NF, unless you can back it up with credible examples.

Snowdragon
06-06-2008, 12:09 PM
I hope you are not presuming that an NF is incapable of leadership. I would think empathy would come in handy during times of diplomacy.

I agree, especially in diplomacy! An NF would help repair America's image.

wolf
06-07-2008, 07:56 PM
While ruining our country's internal operation through feel-good socialism that just happens to cost everyone else something.

Yay
06-07-2008, 08:06 PM
What's it going to be like to have Barack Obama (an NF) in the white house? How would an NF run the country?

Word on the street is that he might also be an ENTP. It's difficult to type public figures because they adopt a public persona. He strike me as a sure fire NP though, hhmmmm.

Even more difficult would be to predict someones statesmanship ability from personality type. Although you might end up hitting on some interesting commonality between types who am I to say.

Marcus
06-09-2008, 02:58 AM
Neither an author nor a test is an ultimate authority on detecting personality type. Personally I agree that Obama is likely to be an ENFP.

An ENFP president can resolve diplomatic conflicts (actually the US has a couple of them), but won't resolve strategic problems.

Noehelia
06-09-2008, 04:03 AM
An ENFP president can resolve diplomatic conflicts (actually the US has a couple of them), but won't resolve strategic problems.

Why? Could you please elaborate on that? Because i believe that I am an INFP and I was thinking that in some point I could be involved with politics. The only problem that I see on that is my P but if you get to a strategic position you can choose people around you that can accomplish your vision.

Marcus
06-09-2008, 05:24 AM
Why? Could you please elaborate on that? Because i believe that I am an INFP and I was thinking that in some point I could be involved with politics. The only problem that I see on that is my P but if you get to a strategic position you can choose people around you that can accomplish your vision.

Actually an INFP is quite different from an ENFP. ENFP is a natural diplomat driven to resolve conflicts. I think ENFPs don't have a strong vision. They act on impulses. INFPs in politics may be moral leaders. If the problem is a moral one (e.g. oppression) then they may resolve it.

PS: I'm not sure if I know INFP leaders. Do you know some? I was thinking about Gandhi/Mandela, but Mandela is supposed to be INFJ and I don't know much about Gandhi.

sriv
06-09-2008, 03:09 PM
was thinking about Gandhi/Mandela, but Mandela is supposed to be INFJ and I don't know much about Gandhi.

The typology sites say that Gandhi is an INFJ, but dominant Fi fits him too well.