Lurkers why wont....

[fonmaneal]

Lurkers why wont you post?
Why come by and not say "Hi"?

[sriv]

If they aren't posting anywhere else, do you actually expect them to post here?

[Motor Jax]

lurkers are good

means they want to be around us but not one of us

the lurkers feed off of our intellect

[Monte314]

Making a first post is scary. "What if people don't like what I say? What if they reject me like everybody else? What if I make a mistake or break a rule and embarass myself?"

I say: lurkers, go ahead and give it a try. It can't be any worse than some of the stuff I've put up here, and they haven't tossed me out yet.

[Jgib5328]

You make less than 1 post per day, you're one to talk.

[notoppings]

I want to add my two cents. If you're lurking a fear rejection, don't. Come on out and contribute, I'm sure you have a question or two, and probably have a lot to say, we will read it and if we don't agree, thats O.K. you deserve to be heard so post.

It's simple just introduce yourself. Welcome in advance.

[Bioplasmoid]

Yes, Lurkers we need you to shake the tree, and contribute fresh ideas for dissection. Who knows you might even appreciate the members only section, and the ability to view images. The ultra-paranoid could jump in here through TOR or an 'anonymous' proxy...So anyway come aboard and enjoy the fun. This place needs as much cultural diversity as possible! IMHO.

[Elfrun]

I'd feel enormous satisfaction if this thread got even one lurker to say hi... Come on I'll even offer a cyber cookie for each lurker who jumps in and says howdy :)

[hauteur]

Making a first post is scary. "What if people don't like what I say? What if they reject me like everybody else? What if I make a mistake or break a rule and embarass myself?"

I say: lurkers, go ahead and give it a try. It can't be any worse than some of the stuff I've put up here, and they haven't tossed me out yet.

Yeah, if they haven't come after me with the torches and pitch forks yet, you all have nothing to fear. ;)

[ElstonGunn]

What's so bad about a person just reading? On a certain level, I think it's kind of admirable if someone can read and watch things without feeling the desire or need to say anything. It's also kind of scary, but that's why it's so bad ass.

[mental drift]

I disagree. I think a forum exist because people post, and the more that post the better. If we double or triple the amount of people who read the posts, only the people who are reading the posts are benefiting. If we double or triple the amount of people who post, everybody is benefiting from the array of ideas, increased threads, and overall conversation.

[hozer]

Post count +1

Hi

[Elfrun]

w00t *does a jig*

Although technically you've started posting already, you can still have a cyber cookie *passes cookie to hozer*

[sriv]

*ignores*

Hi

Hello hozer!!! Now you've commited yourself and have to get some of those other lurkers out here to. :thumbsup:

[Synamon]

These arguments (and the cookie bribe) are all very compelling. Posting is liberating, I'm new and very annoying and no one has kicked me out yet. Woohoo! Let's go one step further.

I triple dog dare you to post. C'mon you know you want to.

[Motor Jax]

posters are what makes a forum thrive

[ElstonGunn]

Maybe it'd be merrier if there were more, but I've got no qualms with the merriment levels based on the current number of regular posters. It'd be a different thing if there were only five people who came here and posted. I don't see what harm it does if someone reads and doesn't post anything.

I've always hated it when people told me to talk more. How much value is there in a comment that someone makes just because you told them to, anyways?

[sriv]

How much value is there in a comment that someone makes just because you told them to, anyways?

I like to know of different perspectives and hear of different experiences. There is no obligation of course, but it would be well appreciated.

[hauteur]

I think we're just trying to encourage (encouragement from INTJs???) anyone that is not posting because they fear rejection. Or at least that's the way I took it.

[Vathir]

Hello.

It's hard to post after such a long history of individuals unable to follow my line of thought...

[sriv]

I think we're just trying to encourage (encouragement from INTJs???) anyone that is not posting because they fear rejection. Or at least that's the way I took it.

Really? I must be overestimating them. I'm always thought that they were evil masterminds taking in all the information, giving none back, and snickering about it in a one-bedroom apartment.

[Elfrun]

Hello.

It's hard to post after such a long history of individuals unable to follow my line of thought...

:shocked: whoa, you really are a lurker, 14 posts since April?! Can't be that bad surley? *passes cookie bribe*

[PHS Philip]

I think we need a "no lurker left behind" policy.

[sriv]

I think we need a "no lurker left behind" policy.

ROFL...great idea! :thumbsup:

Now we have to decide who'll write it. :curtain:

[Solaris]

I nominate Trinity.

[Elfrun]

:scared: does it involve writing the policy or lording over others and getting them to do all the work. Cause if I have to write it I'll have no time to bake cyber cookies and I think we all know what's most important here. I vote we find us a INTP.

[Minerva]

You make less than 1 post per day, you're one to talk.

:laugh:

Please come in and join us, lurkers!

[Fissiongrid]

This is one of the most amazing threads ever.

I wouldn't call myself a lurker but that's my main purpose here. I don't contribute unless necessary.

[Elfrun]

60 since Oct, wow, you don't do fluff do you! Coming out of the woodwork now *coughs up another cookie*

[WiredBrain]

hey... do you consider me to be a lurker? I have a small posts per day average because I don't feel the need to express my opinions so often, even between INTJ peers, but when something calls my attention, I know then I already have an account to express my point of view.

As you see, this was one of those instances.

[Motor Jax]

i go home every day with my mind loaded with so much interaction and everything i learned from here

there have been times where my nuerons have just been overly stimulated that i sleep with these things on my mind

i don't know... i just now have so many ideas and i love it



oh, and i'm a lurker

[Marja]

I wouldn't call myself a lurker but that's my main purpose here. I don't contribute unless necessary.

Me, too. I mostly just come to read because I'm trying to learn about...everything. What I already know isn't useful to most people and I don't like telling stories or complaining about people on the internet.

.35 posts per day!

[x3r0]

A cookie heyyy..... Hmmmmmm.

I decided to finally 'join' your cult, I mean community and not for the cookie. But I would like my cookie now.

[Elfrun]

Alright, alright. I have other jobs around here too you know!

*Passes cookie jar around*

Jez you lurkers are pushy :suspicious:

[PHS Philip]

I've got cake in the Members section...

[Avid]

Lurking is more entertaining for me than actually posting. It is fun observing the debates and differing opinions. Also, a lot of the time I read a new post the replies have already covered anything I would wish to add so I just move on so the thread isn't repetitive.

[sriv]

I've got cake in the Members section...

And blogosh (you'll find out what they are when you go).

[rwyatt365]

I can relate to the fear and trepidation that some might feel ("What if I post and no one answers? Or worse, what if someone judges my post to be stupid?!"). To that I would say - try it, you'll like it! Even if someone DOES rag on you, at least they will give you a reason why and offer you the chance to refute that judgement. It's not so much what you say or think, but how you present your case and rationalize your arguments.

Besides, those cookies of Trinity's are pretty damned good! :thumbsup:

[Elfrun]

Heeere lurker, lurkers :wideeyed:

Come out whereever you are...

[Metaphor]

I'm a lurker.
I usually don't post because I'd rather hold back my stupidity. I'd rather read what others have to say and form a more intelligent response later on.

[PHS Philip]

I'm a lurker.
I usually don't post because I'd rather hold back my stupidity. I'd rather read what others have to say and form a more intelligent response later on.

The very fact that you do that indicated intelligence, I think.

[Kubert]

I usually prefer to just listen/read. Online and offline. By reading I take information. When posting, I give information. And while some might say it's better to give than to take, I'm still greedy and prefer taking...

[Synamon]

I usually prefer to just listen/read. Online and offline. By reading I take information. When posting, I give information. And while some might say it's better to give than to take, I'm still greedy and prefer taking...

Excellent point, I agree, without someone reading the posts they aren't as valuable. I read lots. Oh btw you were lured into posting, gotcha :idea:

[Elfrun]

*pounce, Trinity jumps out of the shadows and herds Kubert, Huddy, Avid, x3r0, WiredBrain, Fissiongrid, Vathir and hozer together, sits them down, passes the cookies around*

Alright, quit taking our words and leaving nothing in return :angry:

We know you’re out there now, we will be watching, we will be checking up :suspicious:

*focuses on Huddy* Um, they let me play here, need I say more...

By the way WiredBrain, you wern't being ignored, I just hope x3r0 didn't take your cookie.

[sriv]

Alright, quit taking our words and leaving nothing in return :angry:


Or pay the consequences!!! The dreaded taxes. :devilish:

[hauteur]

Can I have a cookie too, Trinity? Are they peanut butter? Or maybe white chocolate macadamia? mmmm

[JusVisiting]

I tend to lurk ... a lot. If I don't have anything of value to add to the discussion why post? What Avid and others have said pretty much sums it up.

[hauteur]

I find it hard to believe that you have nothing to add. I'm sure that's especially true in the MBTI sections. We're always happy to have more perspectives on our INTJ craziness. ;)

[Elfrun]

Can I have a cookie too, Trinity? Are they peanut butter? Or maybe white chocolate macadamia? mmmm

Well, as a regular poster, please drop into the food fight or NF Club room (depending on you food preference) there I'll provide you with whatever your heart desires, just don't eat the animals :suspicious:

[szaxazs]

the lurkers feed off of our intellect
It's also kind of scary, but that's why it's so bad ass.
I'm always thought that they were evil masterminds taking in all the information, giving none back, and snickering about it in a one-bedroom apartment.

FROM THY DEPTHS OF THY LURKERWORLD, I COME FORTH THEE
WE EVIL LURKERS DOMINATE THY CYBERSPACE, FEEDING ON YOUR INTELLECTS
TAKING IN ALL THY INFOS, GIVING NOTHING BACK
SOON WE TAKE OVER THE WORLD, PUNY MORTALS
ALL YOUR INFOS ARE BELONGS TO US
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE, MAKE YOUR TIME
HAHAHA

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[xtremegeek]

Sometimes I have to just disappear and not post for awhile - it's a work thing. This will happen again in about 3 weeks. I will disappear for 6-8 weeks, and no one but my customers and my boss will hear from me. The rest of the world will be tuned out (including loved ones) until I have my project implementation complete. This used to really drive my family and friends nuts, but they've gotten used to it.

So forgive me if I sometimes appear to be a lurker. I'm not a lurker, just an ISTJ who periodically has to pull an INTJ move and simply 'disappear.' :-)

[Elfrun]

FROM THY DEPTHS OF THY LURKERWORLD, I COME FORTH THEE
WE EVIL LURKERS DOMINATE THY CYBERSPACE, FEEDING ON YOUR INTELLECTS
TAKING IN ALL THY INFOS, GIVING NOTHING BACK
SOON WE TAKE OVER THE WORLD, PUNY MORTALS
ALL YOUR INFOS ARE BELONGS TO US
YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE, MAKE YOUR TIME
HAHAHA


Aagh :scared:

Get back in the shadows, GET BACK IN THE SHADOWS.


*sprints to the huggles thread to calm down*

[Sara27]

Lurking is much easier to do than posting. I don't write in my books or yell at the tv (usually).

[szaxazs]

Well, I have been lurking for some time, mainly because I didn't read all the replies to the threads I read because I didn't had enough time doing so, and I won't post unless I do read everything posted.

But since I have taken really much from here, I will from now on contribute by posting, following the good path. Yes I do have more time now.

Hey it's nasty to take without giving. Damn, and especially when you have taken so much, and you know there are way more to be taken. You have to give too, otherwise don't take, it's just not fair.

Trinity I won't bite, c'mon.
Gimme some cookies:lovestruck:

[Elfrun]

Yay *launches into an enchanting celebration dance*

Thread success!

I didn't mean to run away but that voice and the hat and glasses masking your face, you kinda reminded me of my nightmares :embarassed:

Cookies for all.

[fonmaneal]

Come my brothers, and sisters(read minions).
Post yea lurkers(how else will I become OVERLORD).
Get your cookies!
:)

[Synamon]

Um, did it occur to anyone that this lurker taunt is in the Member's section and said lurkers would have to have 15 posts to even READ it?

[PHS Philip]

The lounge isn't in the member section :huh:

Wow, mental failure there. No one saw that!

[panacea]

I don't post often as most of what I have to add has already been stated in previous posts. This thread is no exception.
Additionally, I interact with people all day for my employer and interacting with more people is the last thing I want to do.

[szaxazs]

I don't post often as most of what I have to add has already been stated in previous posts.

I think the same most of the time. I come up with some idea, a nice concept, only to find out that in the next 2 or 3 posts someone has already said that, and I'm like wtf. And when this happens a LOT of times in a thread, when I have read all the replies, I have nothing more to say, and that's why I end up not posting anything at all.

But that's why intjforum kicks so much ass imo.

And about the counter-thingy I think forums in general are something more than just trying to increase your post count, damn if someone looks forward to gaining some sort of status on the internet, especially in a forum, this is kinda fucked up, if not funny at all. If someone wants to be remembered, they will achieve so by doing some good work with their replies, imho.

Well there are always people who manage to both stay in topic while they post a hell of replies. They are alien actually but, shh, don's tell this to anybody. And it's a good thing that we don't have people who post only to increase their post count, if there actualy are any with this being their main object, then all I can say is that I haven't noticed them up to now.

The general tactic in a forum, in any forum, imo, is to Give as much as You take, and a little more. This should be enough to keep any forum running healthy, and I am pretty much sure about it.(Well, of course giving good things. In a flame for instance it would be no good to apply that, saying in yourself that you take some flame, you give the same flame back and you a little bit more flame, well, sure this one gets the flame running, but a running flame is not the best thing for a "healthy" forum, well except if it is actually fertile enough to be constructive).

When I read something funny, I too will try to write something funny at some time. It is a way of saying both thanks both to the forum and the one who made you laugh, while you contribute. However there are also some limits, but everyone has probably their own.

It's not fair for someone who gives (good stuff) to take nothing back, but it is way more unfair to take (good stuff again) and give nothing back in return.

The way I think it, it's just not right.
Being a lurker because you only want to take and give nothing back to those who gave you, just seems not right to me.

[Elfrun]

:thumbsup: Glad to see you're properly out of the shadows szaxazs. I too find that my opinions have already been expressed in many a thread so I tend to stay out of a lot of serious discussions as a result, I'd rather not repeat what's already been said. Not that I'm a lurker by any sense of the word, I just make my posts in the silly threads.

*hands out more cookies* <---and do crap like that :rolleyes:

[rwyatt365]

It's easy to say, "Someone already said what I wanted to say" :undecided:, and not post anything. But here's a little tip...everyone has a unique personal viepoint that no one else has. While there is commonality in how we think, each of us has an individual viewpoint (even if it's only slightly different than what has already been said). A personal anecdote, a different twist, a nuanced perspective. What you have to say adds to the texture of the forum and makes this the place that it is.

Don't be shy. Let us hear your voice too!

[szaxazs]

Silly threads are at least as important as serious threads, in any forum. There's no need to try any hard at all to be extra serious just for the sake of being extra serious. Any process becomes better when there is some "fun" in it, no matter how fun is defined by the person percieving something as funny. Everyone has their own criteria but, well, you get the point. If you say the joke about the derivative of e^x and the bar with the other derivatives to a mathematician that hasn't heard of it before, he will probably find it funny, or/and laugh. However, grab someone who does not value mathematical jokes or could not care less about spending their precious time and exquisite mind-power understaning this joke and they won't get the fun of it at all, moreover it's high likely that they will call you a moron or/and say you don't know to tell jokes . It's all about perception. There's no real truth in anything. The way we percieve things creates our own special and unique reality, inside our heads. That's why we are all different. We all have different realities in our heads merely because we percieve things differently. Each one of us lives in a unique world, as if we are the creators of this world. And to be honest, we actually are, because what we think becomes reality. The reality itself is said to exist because we can think. We shape our reality and give life to it in our heads, every instant. Such concepts make my abstract mind overdrive, and I am in a state of nirvana when this happens. It rocks. Quantum mechanics are not sure whether the Schroedinger cat is alive or dead, simply because there's no observator to observe the events, and shape reality. The cat can't be sure whether it is dead or not, there's nobody to watch it. Theese concepts are mind-boggling, and I just love them. Sadly enough there are two or three people iRL with which I can have conversations about similar topics. Others just can't take that much abstraction. When talking about quantum mechanics with a friend and there were some of our other friends nearby, when we stopped for a minute they looked at us like we were ghosts, and the irony is that ghosts are not supposed to be visible at all, well unless they can choose so, provided ghosts exist, which is another topic. I am like smashing some eggs up peoples' faces when others who proclaim themselves to themselves smarter not only are unable to grasp concepts like that and follow such a train of thought, but actually look at you and say "what bullshit are you talking about again" or "stop this bullshit already" or "you started again?" and similar stuff. Thanks God I have enough self-control and I have learned how much should I care in such situations, that I then say there's no need to even notice what such people are saying, I am not willing to pay any attention if all they say is bullshit to me, much like they think the same about me. I say, just leave them be. Then it's all fine.

I seem to trip and go on and on with my abstractness no matter what I think. Hard to focus on one single thing without having 963502365839 other things going on inside my mind, trying to find similarities so the concepts can connect with this single thing. I just love this more than anything else. Thinking rules.

I might be a young hippy deep down there, who knows.

[Synamon]

I think the same most of the time. I come up with some idea, a nice concept, only to find out that in the next 2 or 3 posts someone has already said that, and I'm like wtf. And when this happens a LOT of times in a thread, when I have read all the replies, I have nothing more to say, and that's why I end up not posting anything at all.


Being a lurker because you only want to take and give nothing back to those who gave you, just seems not right to me.

Hey regular posters, is it not valuable for someone to even just say "Wow, those are my thoughts on this too", or "I support so-and-so's viewpoint on this" when their concept has been well stated already? Debating a topic with someone who disagrees with you is certainly part of the point of the forum, but wouldn't it be worthwhile to find out that there are others who agree with you? Isn't that why many of us are here? To find like minds?

[Elfrun]

Silly threads are at least as important as serious threads, in any forum. There's no need to try any hard at all to be extra serious just for the sake of being extra serious.
Phew!

I might be a young hippy deep down there, who knows.
Just INTJ babe, just INTJ ;)

It's easy to say, "Someone already said what I wanted to say" :undecided:, and not post anything. But here's a little tip...everyone has a unique personal viewpoint that no one else has. While there is commonality in how we think, each of us has an individual viewpoint (even if it's only slightly different than what has already been said). A personal anecdote, a different twist, a nuanced perspective. What you have to say adds to the texture of the forum and makes this the place that it is.

Don't be shy. Let us hear your voice too!

Kay, I'll add another element that I withheld from my last post. I hate conflict, I have no interest in debating an issue with someone who's already made up their mind, certainly there are many threads and individuals around here who are open to new points of views but some topics continually arise just in a slightly different form and the only actual conversation taking place is a butting of will and wit with no middle ground.

That mixed with the addition of my opinion already being stated by someone else keeps me out of many threads, make sense? :thumbsup:

[szaxazs]

Debating has to do with how open-minded one is. If they are not, there is definitely no use in trying to debate, you know already that if a close-minded individual says that birds can't fly, even if you bring a damn bird in front of his face and throw it towards some direction (open space, we no need little bird crash) so that it will fly in front of their eyes, they still won't change their minds. Well this is a laughable example but you get the point. No matter how many valid facts you reason out, if someone is close-minded from the start, they might hear you and/or pretend they pay attention to what you say, but they actually laugh at you inside them and will not change their minds no matter how hard you hit your ass on the ground.

'Nuff said about close-mindedness. Now about open-minded, the best means to MAKE others agree with you, ie "winning" the debate is to present them with as many solid facts as possible, so you rule them out from the chance of saying anything back. When you block someone they just can't go on. They will have to accept that you "won" or better, they will change their minds(which is all debating is (or should be) about).

Now everyone has some close-mindedness in them, about some specific topics, and this can be good sometimes. However, in order to benefit from others, someone must be open-minded from the first place. Otherwise there is no need to talk to anyone at all. You are not going to change anyone's mind, noone is going to change yours. This is my view for close-minded people. Those who are more close-minded than open-minded.

And the object of a debate is to learn stuff, through an interesting process. Wit, conflict, it's all in the game. There are people who enjoy debates, and there are people who don't. The single truth is that someone must not have WINNING others as their top priority, you aren't going to win any trophies. NO you won't be any good at all if you can make others shut the fuck up with your imba 1337 skills of deduction, if at the same time you start debates just to show how badass you are. Debate is not about winning, it's about learning stuff and changing viewpoints, either your viewpoints, or their.


Well we as INTJs' HAVE to WIN all the time. NO MATTER WHAT.Sorry.I just pretend to be good, it's part of the evil-mastermindedness.Peace.

[sriv]

Debating has to do with how open-minded one is. If they are not, there is definitely no use in trying to debate, you know already that if a close-minded individual says that birds can't fly, even if you bring a damn bird in front of his face and throw it towards some direction (open space, we no need little bird crash) so that it will fly in front of their eyes, they still won't change their minds. Well this is a laughable example but you get the point. No matter how many valid facts you reason out, if someone is close-minded from the start, they might hear you and/or pretend they pay attention to what you say, but they actually laugh at you inside them and will not change their minds no matter how hard you hit your ass on the ground.


Unless you prove them wrong so horribly that they would have to deny their existence to be right and have no choice but to accept. You just gut-punched his/her ego so they fall down crying. In this case, anyone has permission to rub victory in their faces. :laugh:

[Elfrun]

Unless you prove them wrong so horribly that they would have to deny their existence to be right and have no choice but to accept. You just gut-punched his/her ego so they fall down crying. In this case, anyone has permission to rub victory in their faces. :laugh:

:thumbsup:

Never petty, always fun ;)

[szaxazs]

Unless you prove them wrong so horribly that they would have to deny their existence to be right and have no choice but to accept. You just gut-punched his/her ego so they fall down crying. In this case, anyone has permission to rub victory in their faces. :laugh:

Well there might as well as be cases where people would not accept their failure/mistake no matter what. The whole ego thing is screwed up.

Should this happen however, yes, you definitely have the right to do so.

[Elfrun]

Lurkers, hellooo lurkers, the cookies are going stale... *dangles cookie bait*

[MintOreo]

I'm posting so I can get two posts to see links and stuff, but I'm going back to lurking. ._.

[Synamon]

But there is the super fantastic, super secret Member's Only section where we keep all the good stuff and you need 15 posts to get in there. You know you want to see that, so keep posting. It's easy, fill out a few polls, do a few online tests (dontcha wanna know what kind of animal you are?), come for some cake in the NF clubhouse, post a few wrong answers in the Amuse Me thread (anyone can do that) and poof you are no longer lurking.

[MintOreo]

As long as you guys don't mind my slight ignorance. :)

[bladeserver]

As long as you guys don't mind my slight ignorance. :)
When I compare you with Synamon my dear you must trust me - you have nothing to fear ;).

Do post away and join this interesting group of misfits.

Blade

[rwyatt365]

As long as you guys don't mind my slight ignorance. :)
As long as you're witty, eloquent, charming, logical, rational, erudite, and can make good french toast you're a shoo-in!

C'mon, we won't judge you...much...often.

[Phalanx]

I originally planned on only posting twice also, but I am weak. I have lurked here in a non-posting fashion since January. There are also other forums I have been reading for years without making posts, but you guys are special. Staying out of the spotlight is a basic instinct of mine, for my very existence and survival with my radically non-conventional methods clashes violently with the wisdom of society, for if someone can break most established social rules and still thrive, happier than the majority of those who follow said rules, then the value of the people who's lives are in large part defined by the quality of their adherence to said failing rules is perceived by them to be diminished equivalently. The source of this heresy usually must be destroyed: me. My conversations with people consist of them asking me "Why don't I _____." Most of them reach the conclusion that my actions are dictated by some strange and perverted moral sense or some pop-psychology character flaw, rather than questioning the real utility of the rules I have deliberately violated. I would consider it a moral failure on my part to adopt an inefficient schema for the sake of social lubrication (because I have no needs which require social lubrication (except breeding, which can be postponed for now)), so I automatically avoid people unless necessary.

The other reason I never posted anywhere before now is that my ability to translate my nonlinear web of interrelated thoughts and ideas into the strictly linear flow of oral communication is insufficient to capture the details to the degree of precision required to adequately defend my arguments. Solving a problem in my head consists of a sphere of ideas homogeneously collapsing into an answer, the verbal replication and elocution of which defeats my mastery of any language, save matlab.

I am recovering from these afflictions though. Slowly assimilating into the collective...

[ElstonGunn]

I'm posting so I can get two posts to see links and stuff, but I'm going back to lurking. ._.

Judging by your name, I'd guess you've already got more than enough cookies to tide you over. ...Even if they are gross, toothpaste-flavored cookies...

My conversations with people consist of them asking me "Why don't I _____." Most of them reach the conclusion that my actions are dictated by some strange and perverted moral sense or some pop-psychology character flaw, rather than questioning the real utility of the rules I have deliberately violated.

Yeah, but still... come on. You're supposed to talk, whether you want to or not, right? ;)

[fonmaneal]

Oh, my lurking peoples!
Who am I to judge you, I am undead.
If you are to be one, it is here(join the collective now, resistance is futile).
Have a nice night:)

[rwyatt365]

I originally planned on only posting twice also, but I am weak. I have lurked here in a non-posting fashion since January. There are also other forums I have been reading for years without making posts, but you guys are special. Staying out of the spotlight is a basic instinct of mine, for my very existence and survival with my radically non-conventional methods clashes violently with the wisdom of society, for if someone can break most established social rules and still thrive, happier than the majority of those who follow said rules, then the value of the people who's lives are in large part defined by the quality of their adherence to said failing rules is perceived by them to be diminished equivalently. The source of this heresy usually must be destroyed: me. My conversations with people consist of them asking me "Why don't I _____." Most of them reach the conclusion that my actions are dictated by some strange and perverted moral sense or some pop-psychology character flaw, rather than questioning the real utility of the rules I have deliberately violated. I would consider it a moral failure on my part to adopt an inefficient schema for the sake of social lubrication (because I have no needs which require social lubrication (except breeding, which can be postponed for now)), so I automatically avoid people unless necessary.
Try us, many (if not all) of us have some alternative view of how society should operate. At the very least we might ask for clarification in order to understand your particular viewpoint. At worst, we might challenge your paradigm. In either case, we both would be better for the exchange.

The other reason I never posted anywhere before now is that my ability to translate my nonlinear web of interrelated thoughts and ideas into the strictly linear flow of oral communication is insufficient to capture the details to the degree of precision required to adequately defend my arguments. Solving a problem in my head consists of a sphere of ideas homogeneously collapsing into an answer, the verbal replication and elocution of which defeats my mastery of any language, save matlab.
A true INTJ mindset; non-linear thinking, intuitive insight, communication deficiencies - you'll fit right in!

I am recovering from these afflictions though. Slowly assimilating into the collective...[/quote]

[MintOreo]

[QUOTE=ElstonGunn;122667]Judging by your name, I'd guess you've already got more than enough cookies to tide you over. ...Even if they are gross, toothpaste-flavored cookies...



I agree they are nasty... but I like minty things and I like plain oreos and It's my username in most places.

[png1977]

Hi!

I didn't post because I didn't have anything original to say, and didn't want to look like an onoriginal time-waster. And when I thought of original things to say they all sounded really stupid once I wrote them down, because I don't express them accurately. This may actually be part of my personality, even if not the INTJ part.

I'm now posting just to pass the time on a boring Friday morning, caring nothing for how it appears because I can always stop posting if I'm recieved poorly. It's a matter of choice, in the end.

[szaxazs]

I didn't post because I didn't have anything original to say

C'mon, there is practically no way you don't have your own unique viewpoint on a given subject. That's why we are individuals, even if what you read sounds similar to what you think, if you write your thoughts with some order in mind, you will see that there's always something unique you can add. Read most threads and you will see that most people actually are saying the same things more or less, however there is always a little something in each reply that makes the reply unique, as well as getting the thread (and the forum) going. The viewpoints might have a lot of similarities, but on a deeper level our own preferences show up in what we write.

[xtremegeek]

As long as you're witty, eloquent, charming, logical, rational, erudite, and can make good french toast you're a shoo-in!

C'mon, we won't judge you...much...often.

Can I season that french toast with nutmeg and and a little bit of almond extrac? That's my favorite way of seasoning french toast.

[Synamon]

Is it fresh grated nutmeg? I love cracking the outer shell on nutmegs, great feeling of power when you smash it.

[Elfrun]

Boo

[LurkerSpeaks]

Many reasons:
I feel no need to obey the social ritual mandating I 'come by and say “Hi”'

Many times what I would say has already been said Close Enough—and I despise repetition. Twenty people posting to the effect of “me too” is just irritating. If someone wants the responses tabulated that is what a poll is for—no post is required.

Knowledge that my grammar skills are weak, and that I expect myself to live up to my own high standards. I find myself writing my posts with my Garner's Modern American Usage at hand in an attempt to communicate in as close to perfect manner as I can manage so that my credibility isn't too damaged by my incompetence in this area.

Irritation by the style of argument often used by many, and knowledge of how much greater my irritation would be if arguments styled is such a manner were directed at myself.

A little fear of the unknown, since I have never posted to a forum before—but it takes no new skill to simply search and read.

Finally, oddly enough, the social anxiety I experience in real life applies. I find myself debating every possible post with myself from every side I can think of. Rotating it, assaulting it, tearing it down, riping it apart, and throwing it away if I can't perfect it. Also, knowing that anyone on the net can read my post makes me feel like I'm a Big Blue Room, with a bright-ass Yellow Light with a crowd of 1.5 billion watching and judging me. Not a comfortable experience. My INTP friend has been mocking me for this since last year. I finally joined, but the Big Blue Room gave me stage fright and I ended up not posting until now. Following the advice of “just post—it doesn't have to be perfect” you get the preceding. So I plan on posting the 2 to access links (tricksy manipulation, that) and while I'm at it do a solid 15 post sprint so I have access to members area, even if I find it a horrifying experience and never post again.

P.S.
It's ok not to post. Don't take it as something personal against you. Leave the Lurkers alone, damnit!