Ambition

[GOD]

Would be quite interested to hear about how you NT's what to translate your ability into something worthwhile.

To have thoughts/ideas/knowledge is great as a tool, but unless it is used to build something then it is not of any use (IMHO).

So, any big ambitions? and how are you stepping back with small incremental steps to achieve it?

[ShaiGar]

Quite ambitious. :( wish i could share.

[qwerty]

Changing the world? Ambitious enough?

When I was young I tried to the change the world, after I a year I found that I was getting no-where so I gave up.
Instead I tried to change my country, I did everything and became a model citizen to no avail.
Next I focused more locally and I tried to change my city, attending community events and becoming active with people around me. Though I found that my voice was falling on deaf ears.

As a final attempt to do some good, I focused on my friends and family. I never say no to a request and I push them to become more than they can imagine.

After a few years my friends began to spread these ideals and soon the community was rich and vibrant and inspired with new ideas.
The community became a role model for the country on a number of issues and the country adopted the tactics and became a haven.

It was at this point world leaders turned in our direction and saw what we were in the process of doing and they followed.

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It's a nice story that I love to think about. I like to think it may work out one day.

[ShaiGar]

Quite ambitious. :( wish i could share.
Actually, I can.

Natural World
Rehydrate australia1. I want to build desalination plants on the WA Western Coastline. Powered by solar fields.
Rehydrate australia2. I want to build dams, and pipelines across the continent from the tropics to various southern cities and major agricultural areas
Rearablise australia1. I want to build massive glasshouses across the country in arid land to make it arable.
Reforest australia1. I want to build 5 massive regrowth forests so that lumber companies can only raid these areas.
Reforest australia2. I want to replant the forests that were cut down for cattle grazing.
Reforest australia3. I want to replace cattle farming with roo farming. Kangaroos respawn more times than cattle, and without as much lagtime. They're also leaner meat so that will help cut down fats.


Social World
Replace tax in The Empire of Shai Gar, with 70% of the profit from Water Plants/Dams and from the Electricity Business monopolies.
Replace the current education system with a far more streamlined mandatory system that teaches only "English" and "Mathematics" anyone who fails would be kept back. if failure is consistent past the age of 18, Jailtime.
A voluntary system of education would be put in place where people study courses as electives, and ABCDEF's are used to grade. however going past that system and showing your own initiative would get you marks into higher education. Constant disruption of classes gets you booted from that class.
Nationalisation of South East Asia, Oceanic Islands, Indian Oceanic Islands, Chile, Peru, Antarctica. Rebranding as Empire of Shai Gar.
Turning the Police force into three groups; "Domestic Disturbances", "Malem Prohibitum", "Malem en se" Powers adjusted accordingly
Changing civil liberties into a privilege granted by actions such as referendum voting, voting, guiding the government, abiding by laws.
Removing all requirements to entire my empire. Death sentences applied for employees of enemy governments


Technological World
Build massive amounts of solar farms in central australia. The Deserts. The farms can be maintained by underground towns properly placed like cooper pedy in SA. Could service not only 100% of australia, but also Oceania and S.E.A.
Set up Shai Gar Tech as a company that hires brilliant young visionary minds to produce ideas. They could be funded and produced by engineering companies, and the inventor/designer could get 55% of the profits to further their own life/studies/company. 40% would go to the company. and 5% would be taken for "The Spear of Adversity"
Replace all of S.E.A. and Oceania's, and australias government os's with eitehr linux or openbsd. schools would no longer run Windows.


Spiritual World
Replacing Marriage in society with civil unions. so that any religious action is between the parties and their god alone.
Nominating Order of Shai Gar as the new State Religion.
Ordering Religious leaders to jail if they consistently state (while sober) that creationism is a valid point without scientific proof.


Business World
Removing the AWA, and current IR Laws. Removing all minimum wage laws.
Granting all people a base pay so that the only necessity for work is to improve their living conditions, and not "in order to live".

[qwerty]

Rehydrate Australia - I've had a few dreams like this - though the effects on the environment would be catastrophic and unpredictable. I was thinking about making man made water tables in the desert to catch the water and stop the salination effect that normally follows a big wet.

Reforesting is something that needs to be down now before more commonwealth land is sold off.

Roo farming I'll let inclined to follow - the meat is generally way too tough and the potential for the roo population to spike in the wild around these 'farms' is too high.

Solar farms are something we should be doing now and the potential for them is huge.

Yeah with the education thing, I'm all for an educated population however if everyone is 'smart' then your trade labor is destroyed. The politics in my first high school were much more sustainable to the selective school I went to in year 11 and 12. Before that 3/4 of my class were pretty much guaranteed a trade job. Even now I have a trade in a sense that I could do for the rest of my life but I'm not a fan of it so I prefer to dedicate more of my time to uni.

Good luck with the re-branding of Oceania.

Police are a tricky bunch to control and categorise. Once again I'll go back to my youth, growing up in a town with 1 cop I'm not too sure how specialisation would work. In the major city yes that would be a good idea but mixed in with general duties cops too.

When you take away a persons vote then you fast track your country to give up it's democracy. Whereas this can be a bad thing as the majority of voters are not politically minded, it is a good thing as well in that all segments of the population must be represented and looked at during an election campaign if nothing else.
I'd much prefer to be forced to give up an hour to vote than to miss the opportunity at all.

With the religious thing, what happens with religious beliefs clash with legal beliefs? E.g. 2-3 wives.
If the religion is not officiated (more just to make sure that the practices don't break the laws) then this sort of thing is bad. Not to pick on Muslims as I have nothing against any Muslim I know and most new people I meet with a Muslim background are generally well behaved and reserved compared to other faiths like Christianity but when the Koran writes that "You will not take orders from a non Muslim" then you find that a religion begins to work against the legal system.

Okay the AWA's I'm all for scapping. My trade industry has been using AWA's for the past 3 years now and I guarantee you that it leads to extremely poorly paid and skilled sector. When I started in the security industry, the money was good enough (we were still making $6-7 an hour more than the bar tenders) and the guys I worked with knew their job. Over time the pay rate didn't increase and all the good workers left for other industries (even myself, I am in the security industry but I'm no longer a 'floor' security guard) crappy workers were employed because the bosses couldn't employ decent staff for the rate they were paying. And in under 3 years the pay of a bar tender has increased dramatically to the point where they are comparable to security on flat rates not including tips (which used to make up for the pay differences).

Removing minimum wage laws is not a good idea. Having an award based system means that even the crappiest worker is guaranteed a base pay rate (we are all unskilled at one stage in our life and will earn the minimum wage). If you're a good worker then you renegotiate your wages with your boss and ask for a raise (it's not hard and if you're worth the money then they will pay you - example would be myself, while everyone elses pays stayed the same mine went up because I would do a decent unbiased job and would be requested to work in a half a dozen places, so my company sort of auctioned me out and made money off charging a place more for me that I would request everytime I did another job).

As far as a base pay. I believe completely that I person should earn due compensation. I don't think it's right that CEO's earn $1millions of dollars a year but in saying that I believe they should earn more than a mail centre worker.
I can tell you right now that if my boss didn't pay me what I thought I was worth then I wouldn't be working for him.

[ShaiGar]

Go the INTJ's way of completely misunderstanding or not thinking something through.
I put my ideas down quickly so that I did not lose interest, (ADD on top of INTP :( )How about I explain what I meant so that you're not arguing points a five year old could think?

Rehydrate Australia - I've had a few dreams like this - though the effects on the environment would be catastrophic and unpredictable. I was thinking about making man made water tables in the desert to catch the water and stop the salination effect that normally follows a big wet.
No, it wouldnt be catastrophic. It would only be catastrophic if you just dumped water on everything and left it to stagnate. That be retarded and noone would waste that much water trying to do good. ploughing dead soil, and saturating it with nutrients, and slowly filtering water through. doing this over large enough land areas over enough time could reclaim the land.

Roo farming I'll let inclined to follow - the meat is generally way too tough and the potential for the roo population to spike in the wild around these 'farms' is too high.
What kind of idiot farms a commodity and does not put up barriers against loss? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
This type of barrier, galvanised, should protect the investment for a very long time. Roo meat is the greatest i have ever tasted. Possibly because of it's toughness, however there are ways of cooking it to make it very soft. The entire part of the roo can be utilised as well, backscratchers, brilliantly soft leather, fur. There's always a ready supply of joeys if you want veal too.

The other aspect is that cattle damage the ground and traditionally graziers have needed to destroy huge tracts of forests in order to provide land for them. Roos dont need this.



Yeah with the education thing, I'm all for an educated population however if everyone is 'smart' then your trade labor is destroyed. The politics in my first high school were much more sustainable to the selective school I went to in year 11 and 12. Before that 3/4 of my class were pretty much guaranteed a trade job. Even now I have a trade in a sense that I could do for the rest of my life but I'm not a fan of it so I prefer to dedicate more of my time to uni.
That's a very selfish attitude, but to your discredit it is also a poorly thought out one. Not everyone wants to be highly educated, it is generally only the NF/NT's who want to learn for the sake of learning. Trades will always continue, not because people are too poor or ill-educated to do anything else, but because there actually exist people who LIKE doing that.

Most people who attend classes only do so because it is what is socially expected. if it were only socially expected to do the English/Mathematics core, and people got to choose what else they wanted to study, then the education would retreat back to those willing to actually study.


Good luck with the re-branding of Oceania.
Luck? I don't need luck. I need Firepower.

Police are a tricky bunch to control and categorise. Once again I'll go back to my youth, growing up in a town with 1 cop I'm not too sure how specialisation would work. In the major city yes that would be a good idea but mixed in with general duties cops too.
Prohibitum and Domestic could be lumped in together.
Malem En Se needs to be a force apart. You do know what the two terms mean right? There isnt any need for a general duties cop.

When you take away a persons vote then you fast track your country to give up it's democracy. Whereas this can be a bad thing as the majority of voters are not politically minded, it is a good thing as well in that all segments of the population must be represented and looked at during an election campaign if nothing else.
I'd much prefer to be forced to give up an hour to vote than to miss the opportunity at all.
And I would never take away the right to vote. The participation in government is one of the things that gauges how much you are privileged.

With the religious thing, what happens with religious beliefs clash with legal beliefs? E.g. 2-3 wives.
If the religion is not officiated (more just to make sure that the practices don't break the laws) then this sort of thing is bad. Not to pick on Muslims as I have nothing against any Muslim I know and most new people I meet with a Muslim background are generally well behaved and reserved compared to other faiths like Christianity but when the Koran writes that "You will not take orders from a non Muslim" then you find that a religion begins to work against the legal system.
Malem Prohibitum will not touch on who you can and cannot marry. Marriage is a religious thing and will not be interferred with by my government. Failure to comply with the law on any religious grounds and you will be imprisoned. Or Shot.


As far as a base pay. I believe completely that I person should earn due compensation. I don't think it's right that CEO's earn $1millions of dollars a year but in saying that I believe they should earn more than a mail centre worker.
I can tell you right now that if my boss didn't pay me what I thought I was worth then I wouldn't be working for him.
I mean like each person gets 300 dollars a week. if people want to improve their living conditions then they can work. but they dont NEED to, so even though there is no minimum wage, people are paid for a job well done or they dont work. That is on top of a working wage/salary so it encourages people to work without penalising those who do.

[qwerty]

Go the INTJ's way of completely misunderstanding or not thinking something through.
I put my ideas down quickly so that I did not lose interest, (ADD on top of INTP :( )How about I explain what I meant so that you're not arguing points a five year old could think?

Lets try shall we :). Maybe the intp can't see the details.


Rehydrate Australia - I've had a few dreams like this - though the effects on the environment would be catastrophic and unpredictable. I was thinking about making man made water tables in the desert to catch the water and stop the salination effect that normally follows a big wet.
No, it wouldnt be catastrophic. It would only be catastrophic if you just dumped water on everything and left it to stagnate. That be retarded and noone would waste that much water trying to do good. ploughing dead soil, and saturating it with nutrients, and slowly filtering water through. doing this over large enough land areas over enough time could reclaim the land.

We'll come back to salination as an issue here.
Simply put if you work the land and correct the PH levels then filter water through it(regardless of speed) you end up with Salination. I take it from your post your from Western Australia, this is a massive issue over there and I'd hope you'd know about it. Hence the idea of isolating the watertables and stock taking the water there.
People say there was an inland sea thousands of years ago and it dried up naturally. This would suggest that the climate regardless of what you do to change the environment is too harsh to change the land within our life times.


Roo farming I'll let inclined to follow - the meat is generally way too tough and the potential for the roo population to spike in the wild around these 'farms' is too high.
What kind of idiot farms a commodity and does not put up barriers against loss?
This type of barrier, galvanised, should protect the investment for a very long time. Roo meat is the greatest i have ever tasted. Possibly because of it's toughness, however there are ways of cooking it to make it very soft. The entire part of the roo can be utilised as well, backscratchers, brilliantly soft leather, fur. There's always a ready supply of joeys if you want veal too.

The other aspect is that cattle damage the ground and traditionally graziers have needed to destroy huge tracts of forests in order to provide land for them. Roos dont need this.

Firstly yes the fencing you mention does work. And works well on the scale of kangaroo farms that currently exist. But answer me this: when was the last time you were on a property? It's hard work to maintain fencing and to maintain fencing like that would be a nightmare.
Also I'd imagine the cost would be enormous, and it would take many years to make your money back. Also the difference between cattle and kangaroo is that cattle generally don't destroy as many fences as kangaroo's(and kangaroo's can jump them easily). But that basically means the cost ratio for maintenance is too high.
Then when you start looking at land the size of most ranches in the NT, even a perimeter fence is unfeasible!
And to address roo's in the forest - sure thing and how are the farmers going to come up with an economical way to harvest the crop?
The meat I guess comes down to a taste thing. Personally I eat allot of meat and I do not like roo meat.


Yeah with the education thing, I'm all for an educated population however if everyone is 'smart' then your trade labor is destroyed. The politics in my first high school were much more sustainable to the selective school I went to in year 11 and 12. Before that 3/4 of my class were pretty much guaranteed a trade job. Even now I have a trade in a sense that I could do for the rest of my life but I'm not a fan of it so I prefer to dedicate more of my time to uni.
That's a very selfish attitude, but to your discredit it is also a poorly thought out one. Not everyone wants to be highly educated, it is generally only the NF/NT's who want to learn for the sake of learning. Trades will always continue, not because people are too poor or ill-educated to do anything else, but because there actually exist people who LIKE doing that.

Most people who attend classes only do so because it is what is socially expected. if it were only socially expected to do the English/Mathematics core, and people got to choose what else they wanted to study, then the education would retreat back to those willing to actually study.

This is still an iffy subject in my head. At this point in time the population in Australia should be able to cope with huge numbers of schools and there should be no reason a person can't attend one.
If a person is only taught english and maths then that would be an interesting scenario :). Although I believe in limiting a persons education if they don't wish to continue I do also believe in a rounded education.
So lets look at the social consequences of not having a rounded education:
2007 - Education is limited to basic maths and basic english, the country rejoices
2010 - The first group of students complete their basic training (Due to having lack of ways to absorb information and lack of fun classes like woodwork and sports 15% of the population goes to jail - this is an underestimate).
2011 - Entry requirements for university are through the roof as business and service oriented companies expect a well rounded employee and are turning to the universities to provide this.
2015 - The first set of children parented by the new generation attend school for the first time. They are unable to ask their parents for help because their parents stopped learning.
2016 - The wage gap has increased tenfold as it appears any slob who does a trade now is either an ex-con or too dumb to goto university (and people look down at them because they have less of an education).
2017 - The countries economy begins to collapse because universities are burning out their professors teaching people who shouldn't be there. The country as a whole gets dumber and can no longer compete with the rest of the world.

[qwerty]

Police are a tricky bunch to control and categorise. Once again I'll go back to my youth, growing up in a town with 1 cop I'm not too sure how specialisation would work. In the major city yes that would be a good idea but mixed in with general duties cops too.
Prohibitum and Domestic could be lumped in together.
Malem En Se needs to be a force apart. You do know what the two terms mean right? There isnt any need for a general duties cop.

Ok I won't argue this one because you can't concede to even having general duties police.
Just don't come crying to me when you are mugged and stabbed and the copper you speak to will only handle one of your complaints and tells you to drive across town to complete the rest. And again I'll mention single copper towns what type do they get?
Who's going to draw the line for what they can do?


When you take away a persons vote then you fast track your country to give up it's democracy. Whereas this can be a bad thing as the majority of voters are not politically minded, it is a good thing as well in that all segments of the population must be represented and looked at during an election campaign if nothing else.
I'd much prefer to be forced to give up an hour to vote than to miss the opportunity at all.
And I would never take away the right to vote. The participation in government is one of the things that gauges how much you are privileged.

And who gauges my participation in the government? The government, great to see communisms still alive!


With the religious thing, what happens with religious beliefs clash with legal beliefs? E.g. 2-3 wives.
If the religion is not officiated (more just to make sure that the practices don't break the laws) then this sort of thing is bad. Not to pick on Muslims as I have nothing against any Muslim I know and most new people I meet with a Muslim background are generally well behaved and reserved compared to other faiths like Christianity but when the Koran writes that "You will not take orders from a non Muslim" then you find that a religion begins to work against the legal system.
Malem Prohibitum will not touch on who you can and cannot marry. Marriage is a religious thing and will not be interferred with by my government. Failure to comply with the law on any religious grounds and you will be imprisoned. Or Shot.

Wait so you are happy with Polygyny? I can see how things could get ugly fast here. Also it brings up interesting questions regarding domestic abuse. You either give the religion complete power, no power or enforce the same rules for everyone, meaning that the religion is no different from the rest of us.


As far as a base pay. I believe completely that I person should earn due compensation. I don't think it's right that CEO's earn $1millions of dollars a year but in saying that I believe they should earn more than a mail centre worker.
I can tell you right now that if my boss didn't pay me what I thought I was worth then I wouldn't be working for him.
I mean like each person gets 300 dollars a week. if people want to improve their living conditions then they can work. but they dont NEED to, so even though there is no minimum wage, people are paid for a job well done or they dont work. That is on top of a working wage/salary so it encourages people to work without penalising those who do.
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We do that here already - it's called welfare or the dole.
And how does it provide for our country?
My next door neighbours on the dole, he treats his kids like crap and drinks all day. He refuses to work because the government gives him money. He tells me how he wants to be rich when he's drunk and when I tell him to get a job he does for a week and then because he's lazy he quits and goes back to his old habits.

You sound like you want a utopia where nothing ever changes. Nothing gets better and over times things can only get worse.

[ShaiGar]

This is beginning to look like a fun argument. I am right of course but I shall endeavor to correct you with my points. Next installment from me is tomorrow morning.

[Raven Queen]

Would be quite interested to hear about how you NT's what to translate your ability into something worthwhile.

To have thoughts/ideas/knowledge is great as a tool, but unless it is used to build something then it is not of any use (IMHO).

So, any big ambitions? and how are you stepping back with small incremental steps to achieve it?


My ambition is to win the nobel prize for a theory that I come up with which will have absolutely no use to any living thing on earth. Those are the only subjects that's fun and worth pursuing. I have no plans to go get it, it will come to me... Eventually..

I think the people give too much attention on the applicability of knowledge and not knowledge for its own sake. I think they just want to make money. :(

[Chainsaw Dundee]

As far as life goes, I haven't specifically defined something yet. I want to be a professional musician. Release 1 or 2 globally-selling albums, get rich, and have the funding to engineer and establish some kind of network of air-purification facilities. After that, perhaps open up some kind of high-class resort/club/studio out in the middle of nowhere to where rich and famous people could come to get privacy, and give me their money.

I think when I was in 3rd grade, my life goal that I wrote down was "Be a Billionaire". I'll let time sort out the specifics.

[Raven Queen]

I'll let time sort out the specifics.

That's the best plan ever! :D

[Nomad]

Permaculture designer. Nice piece of land, sustainable, organic agriculture, letting Mother Nature do the heavy lifting. Feed myself, honest exercise, fresh air, sell the rest to the overpaid trendies for a little cash at farmers markets.

Nice and simple. When the monoculture agricultural and fossil fuel based transportation systems crash, I'll still be eating.

-Nomad

[deicruxified]

this is not as ambitious as it would seem for most but in my sincere opinion, i want to be a hermit living on a mountain peak. probably playing my guitar or flute... then with a multimillion trust fund in case i plan to go down to the plain and smother earthly pleasures... ;D but i want this kind of life in my old age...

real world
i got big plans i won't tell anyone... surprise! just like a dancing lady hidden inside a cake.

[ShaiGar]

Sorry qwerty i got bored of the argument after I went to bed and your attack on my line of thinking isnt as offensive to me anymore as it was last night. I cannot build the interest to continue. Maybe next time.

I want to build a zombie fortress on the coastline. So that when the inevitable comes, I am well prepared. The Zombie Fortress will be my home and base for my library. It'd probably turn into a tourist/backpacker destination. Hell, at least I can pay the taxes that way.

I also want to publish a new sex book, like the kama sutra, perfumed gardens. Amor Gar. Lusts Spear.
I want to write many many books. The only thing stopping me is add.

[Chainsaw Dundee]

Sorry qwerty i got bored of the argument after I went to bed and your attack on my line of thinking isnt as offensive to me anymore as it was last night. I cannot build the interest to continue. Maybe next time.

I want to build a zombie fortress on the coastline. So that when the inevitable comes, I am well prepared. The Zombie Fortress will be my home and base for my library. It'd probably turn into a tourist/backpacker destination. Hell, at least I can pay the taxes that way.

I also want to publish a new sex book, like the kama sutra, perfumed gardens. Amor Gar. Lusts Spear.
I want to write many many books. The only thing stopping me is add.

It's good to see Im not the only one preparing for the zombie infestation.

ADD is a shitty excuse, I think. Im sure if you built yourself some kind of machine out of a shock collar and an EEG machine that zapped you when you started to lose focus, your ADD would be cured in a week. They built a similar device for kids that would shut the TV off as soon as they started to go into an altered state from watching it(which averaged around 30 seconds).

I've considered living as a hermit as well. Just build myself a nice mansion out in the desert out of shipping containers, bulldoze a landing strip for my brush plane, and become a guitarist of epic zen-ninja proportions that survives by trapping and eating unfortunate tourists and hikers. Like a mix between Ted Nugent, Charles Manson, and that archetypical ancient ninja-master that lives out in the boonies.

Alas, there may still be hope for this human race, which is why I have decided to do what I have decided to do.

[TheLoneINTJ]

I AM LOVING THIS ROOM. It feels good to be an INTJ.

I have never met a confirmed INTJ, some day I will, dont know what to expect....green hair?




And for you Ms. Raven, I have a bone to pick with you....


Quote from Veneti on 10/21/07 at 5:43am:
Would be quite interested to hear about how you NT's what to translate your ability into something worthwhile.

To have thoughts/ideas/knowledge is great as a tool, but unless it is used to build something then it is not of any use (IMHO).

So, any big ambitions? and how are you stepping back with small incremental steps to achieve it?


My ambition is to win the nobel prize for a theory that I come up with which will have absolutely no use to any living thing on earth. Those are the only subjects that's fun and worth pursuing. I have no plans to go get it, it will come to me... Eventually..

I think the people give too much attention on the applicability of knowledge and not knowledge for its own sake. I think they just want to make money.


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Why would you want to do something like apply your self to attaining useless knowledge? That does not sound like an INTJ trait, we are soposed to be all about the application of the knowledge to accomplish our means. I can go an memorize computer code arbitrarily all day long...what is that going to do without having a program that needs to be written?



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And BTW everyone, I am LOVING it that everyone is very ambitious. I have always felt a ridiculously strong something that just wont go away, maybe I just need to take an Antiacid but its probably chronic Ambition, programmed into our brains. What to do with this? All the possibilities are agonizing sometimes and they all change the world. I have a list of inventions that I am working on...I own a patent on one. AND I think I have this whole Toxoplasmosis disease solved, although not sure yet how to implement this.


I will be back in this room often. I really enjoy reading all of this. You people rule!

[Raven Queen]

Why would you want to do something like apply your self to attaining useless knowledge? That does not sound like an INTJ trait, we are soposed to be all about the application of the knowledge to accomplish our means. I can go an memorize computer code arbitrarily all day long...what is that going to do without having a program that needs to be written?


Ah, but I'm not INTJ. I'm INTP.

Memorizing computer code isn't attaining knowledge, it's simply... memorizing something useless. I'm talking about knowledge that would help us understand the world and our place in it, but may not necessarily bring in money or have much use in everyday life... Though I suppose it would help satisfy human curiousity.

By the way, please address me as Your Majesty, instead of Ms Raven. :P

[Meyer]

I used to become so overwhelmed because there was so much I wanted to do that I felt I would never have enough time. Currently my plans are much simpler. For the present I want to build the business that my father, brother and I are are starting. I want to develop it into such an efficient system that eventually I will be able to step away from it for a time. When i can do that and money is not an issue I would like to find some global problem/foundation that I can be very passionate about and work to improve the lives of others in some way. From there possibly politics, although I think the inefficiency of our current beaureacracy(sp?) would drive me nuts.

[Meyer]

I think when I was in 3rd grade, my life goal that I wrote down was "Be a Billionaire". I'll let time sort out the specifics.[/QUOTE]

Thats funny. In pre-school we had to draw three things we wanted when we grew up. I drew a computer, castle and a huge pile of money. Funny(or sad) thing is they haven't changed much.:thinking:

[TheLoneINTJ]

Billionaire? Pah. Pale in comparison to my future gazillions.

[terencec]

I think when I was in 3rd grade, my life goal that I wrote down was "Be a Billionaire". I'll let time sort out the specifics.

Thats funny. In pre-school we had to draw three things we wanted when we grew up. I drew a computer, castle and a huge pile of money. Funny(or sad) thing is they haven't changed much.:thinking:[/QUOTE]


DarkSlateBlue, Where are you from? Do you parents love money a lot? I just want to see why you wanted to be "Billionaire" when you were 3rd grade! You were much better than me. I thought I wanted to be a police but changed my mind later!