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GOD
11-03-2007, 02:11 PM
Well,

I have ideas far quicker than my ability to even consider undertaking them (solutions to ideas, projects etc).

I'm constantly trying to reduce the number of projects I undertake and keep my workload to a sensible level.

Like, I should go drinking this evening... but what will I actually do.. Hmm.. Learn about some hacks for adsense in blogs, SEO for blogs, Do some specification work for some designs I will be registering with the trademark office, assessing suppliers. And... wasting time making endless cups of coffee... *;D

Interestingly, I haven't considered "reading books" for a long time... everything I read is technical and relates to expanding my "specialised" knowledge in my work areas. I wish I had time to just read for pleasure rather than to be directionally focused.

So the question is: Do you have problems with the limited time that exists versus all the things (personal objectives) you'd like to undertake.

Hmmm.. INTJ's are introverted because... "If we decided to be social we'd never get our personal objectives *done..."

thegnat
11-03-2007, 02:43 PM
YES! YES! YES!

There are only 24 hours in a day!! I need far more! I haven't been able to read for pleasure in a looong time! And socialization? Pshaw. Out the window! (ooh Pshaw is a word).

I play tennis, I am a chemistry major (third year - when they go, yeah now you should be able to study well since you took orgo and survived so let's pound you with work, not that I mind it - I like the chemistry work I just don't like the physics and econ as well). They both together take over my life. If one or the other was left, I'd probably still have no time for say...horses or other fun little things I'm interested in.

My workload from chemistry even takes time away from tennis. Even though I'm on the team, it takes time away from it because I have to get stuff done for school! I'd love to be able to do more for *both* But I just don't have the time. Let alone doing other things I'm interested in. Sigh. Oh well. I live.

stuntgp2000
11-03-2007, 08:19 PM
I'm in serious troubles right now. Certainly, what catches my interest far exceeds my capacity of information handling.

It's time for a new Time Management, a Load Balancer and a Focus Prioritizer Mechanisms for my brain.

I'm sure I will come up with something simple yet very efficient to surmount all this time challenges.

Med

cielo market
11-03-2007, 08:24 PM
Hmmm.. INTJ's are introverted because... "If we decided to be social we'd never get our personal objectives *done..."

Agree! *:thumbsup:

GOD
11-03-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm in serious troubles right now. Certainly, what catches my interest far exceeds my capacity of information handling.

It's time for a new Time Management, a Load Balancer and a Focus Prioritizer Mechanisms for my brain.

I'm sure I will come up with something simple yet very efficient to surmount all this time challenges.

Med



Yeah, it’s called Prioritization... INTJ's can rank, rate and deal with the major issues and attenuate where required.

The INTP's... that’s why they are scatter brains... can't prioritize, haven't evolved judging to act as a directional steer to their thoughts. Makes them naïve when faced with a left field threat and doesn’t allow them to form appropriate contingencies.

Well, that’s my theory anyway.

We all suffer from procrastination though. ;D

thegnat
11-03-2007, 08:47 PM
I'm in serious troubles right now. Certainly, what catches my interest far exceeds my capacity of information handling.

It's time for a new Time Management, a Load Balancer and a Focus Prioritizer Mechanisms for my brain.

I'm sure I will come up with something simple yet very efficient to surmount all this time challenges.

Med



What I need is a robot to do half my work. Preferably the classes I'm not super-motivated with. ie econ and physics take a backseat to chem just because of time constraints. I could do so much better in them (not like I'm doing terribly) if I had the time.

HarleyQuinn
11-04-2007, 12:51 AM
I'm seriously, seriously contemplating doing this: Uberman Sleep (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s_sleep_schedule) for next semester starting over Christmas break so I have enough time to do everything I want & need to do. Writing a 30 page capstone paper all semester long won't be easy with 5 other English classes too.

cielo market
11-04-2007, 01:06 AM
I'm seriously, seriously contemplating doing this: Uberman Sleep (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s_sleep_schedule) for next semester starting over Christmas break so I have enough time to do everything I want & need to do. *Writing a 30 page capstone paper all semester long won't be easy with 5 other English classes too.

Sleep is for the weak! *:devilish: :devilish:
But can you fall asleep that easily? If I were planning to take a 20 min nap, I'd have to add in the 2 hrs. it takes me to fall asleep because I can't shut off my brain *:-/

thegnat
11-04-2007, 01:41 AM
I'm seriously, seriously contemplating doing this: Uberman Sleep (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s_sleep_schedule) for next semester starting over Christmas break so I have enough time to do everything I want & need to do. Writing a 30 page capstone paper all semester long won't be easy with 5 other English classes too.

Sleep is for the weak! :devilish: :devilish:
But can you fall asleep that easily? If I were planning to take a 20 min nap, I'd have to add in the 2 hrs. it takes me to fall asleep because I can't shut off my brain :-/

But if you're that tired? You'll fall asleep. I learned to nap no matter how much my brain was crankin'

I can nap in pretty much 5 minutes. Maybe even less. I'm pretty much chronically exhausted anymore.

Falling asleep at night however takes a good 10-20 or even a half an hour or so depending on how long my thoughts keep me awake.

HarleyQuinn: I sympathize!!
My schedule for next semester (+ intense tennis schedule with about 20 matches over a span of about 4 months, 3 hour practices each day when not playing matches that will last AT LEAST three hours):
Econ
Physics
Physics lab (3 hour lab)
Quantum Chemistry (advanced course - calculus involved)
Chem Research (6-8 lab hours/week)

But yeah I know an English major and I know how hard they work. They're always swamped too.

HarleyQuinn
11-04-2007, 10:53 AM
I'd have a nervous breakdown if I were a science major :P The cost of the books alone!

The worst part about being an English major IMO is the books. I don't mind the papers (unless I have 2-3 all due in the same week) but getting 6-8 books per class and having to read at least 1,250 pages per week (est. 250 pages per book x 5 classes) is really time consuming, even with my ability to read fast.

OneBadMother
11-04-2007, 05:43 PM
I do have problems with that. I'm not really a slacker per se, I just absorb the information that relates to my interests, practice my hand-eye coordination with various online exercises, and spend the rest of the time philosophizing and formulating ideas and scenarios in my mind. :P

This week is going to be hell, though. I'm actually going to do all the work or almost all the work I need for this coming week today so that I can focus on this one big project I've been putting off for the next three nights, while still having some time for DnD and MtG. I shouldn't have spent so much time on Friday with sarcasm and hand-eye coordination exercises and Saturday tussling with my INTJ friend, but socialization opportunities with said INTJ are precious, few, and wondrous.

mind_wander
11-04-2007, 10:36 PM
I'm seriously, seriously contemplating doing this: Uberman Sleep (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s_sleep_schedule) for next semester starting over Christmas break so I have enough time to do everything I want & need to do. *Writing a 30 page capstone paper all semester long won't be easy with 5 other English classes too.
You joking right? come on, my team has to write up 120pgs, for a team project. 30pgs. is like small potatoes. Not to hurt your feelings, but 30pgs. is not really all that bad. On top of that, need to write up an 50pgs. individualized paper, with the 120pgs. team project [we got a great team: entj, intj, etc.]

mind_wander
11-04-2007, 10:38 PM
Well,

I have ideas far quicker than my ability to even consider undertaking them (solutions to ideas, projects etc).

I'm constantly trying to reduce the number of projects I undertake and keep my workload to a sensible level.

Like, I should go drinking this evening... but what will I actually do.. Hmm.. Learn about some hacks for adsense in blogs, SEO for blogs, Do some specification work for some designs I will be registering with the trademark office, assessing suppliers. And... wasting time making endless cups of coffee... *;D

Interestingly, I haven't considered "reading books" for a long time... everything I read is technical and relates to expanding my "specialised" knowledge in my work areas. I wish I had time to just read for pleasure rather than to be directionally focused.

So the question is: Do you have problems with the limited time that exists versus all the things (personal objectives) you'd like to undertake.

Hmmm.. INTJ's are introverted because... "If we decided to be social we'd never get our personal objectives *done..."
actually, i do the samething. Yes, I need more time too.

HarleyQuinn
11-06-2007, 09:56 AM
I'm seriously, seriously contemplating doing this: Uberman Sleep (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s_sleep_schedule) for next semester starting over Christmas break so I have enough time to do everything I want & need to do. Writing a 30 page capstone paper all semester long won't be easy with 5 other English classes too.
You joking right? come on, my team has to write up 120pgs, for a team project. 30pgs. is like small potatoes. Not to hurt your feelings, but 30pgs. is not really all that bad. On top of that, need to write up an 50pgs. individualized paper, with the 120pgs. team project [we got a great team: entj, intj, etc.]

Well, for a guy accustomed to writing 10-15 pages at the longest along with being short and concise in my writing anyway, the 30 page deal terrifies me. Granted, if it were the only thing I was focusing on, I'd say no sweat but I'll be shuffling this along with a myriad of 10-15 page papers throughout the semester for my other 5 classes as well.

How big is your team and is it a graduate class? Also what's the subject? Not sure how many undergrad schools allow people to write 120 page team papers... :-?

mind_wander
11-06-2007, 12:14 PM
I'm seriously, seriously contemplating doing this: Uberman Sleep (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s_sleep_schedule) for next semester starting over Christmas break so I have enough time to do everything I want & need to do. *Writing a 30 page capstone paper all semester long won't be easy with 5 other English classes too.
You joking right? come on, my team has to write up 120pgs, for a team project. 30pgs. is like small potatoes. Not to hurt your feelings, but 30pgs. is not really all that bad. On top of that, need to write up an 50pgs. individualized paper, with the 120pgs. team project [we got a great team: entj, intj, etc.]

Well, for a guy accustomed to writing 10-15 pages at the longest along with being short and concise in my writing anyway, the 30 page deal terrifies me. Granted, if it were the only thing I was focusing on, I'd say no sweat but I'll be shuffling this along with a myriad of 10-15 page papers throughout the semester for my other 5 classes as well.

How big is your team and is it a graduate class? Also what's the subject? *Not sure how many undergrad schools allow people to write 120 page team papers... *:-?
Good question, its a team of 4 people with very diverse minds *:thumbsup: I based it off by concentration, what are your interests, what are your previous experiences with working with groups, then divided with personality traits; everyone wants to be part of a team, not just being by yourself hanging working on 120pgs. Thats how, I kinda sorted it, although I picked it out of random, some are from my previous classes.

The subject is called: Strategic Management

Its an Ungraduate course, you need this inorder to graduate, sux huh, 120pgs, and 50pg. individual. My team managed to get about half of the specified 120pgs. Hey, as long someone is focused on the main goal, allows everyone's inputs on how to approach it, clarification[due to questions being asked], think as a group and not an individual[but still have your own ideas], then yeah thats what you call a good team.

The point of this course is A: terrorize you to death, B: Signed your life away because you need to graduate, C: Wanted you to be more diverse in way of thinking *:thumbsup: [INTJ can cure that], D: All the above.

Overall, it does make you think more, than most of your other courses.

Also, my best advice is for you. Take it one step at a time, please do not over think it. Trust me on this one. Chunk the pieces together, try to think out your plan abstractly, and write it down. THen, implement it. Do alittle bit at a time, one part a day, then makes life easier. Really 15 pgs. isn't all that bad, I can even do that myself, within 2 days.

HarleyQuinn
11-06-2007, 04:32 PM
I'm a procrastinator but I can bang out 4 pages in an hour, so... going by that method I could finish the 30 page paper (30 being minimum. I've heard of others writing 70-100 pages) in about 8 hours ;)

My topic is basically reflecting the works of "Frankenstein", "Dracula", and "Dead Witch Walking" and comparing them to the social ideas and attitudes of the eras the works were written. That alone I could cover in 15-20 pages, easy. I'll probably end up writing more than 30 pages when it's all said and done, also covering the history of vampires and Gothic literature in general to help with context.

I'm definitely taking this one day at a time. The first semester is devoted to writing a proposal piece and starting the dive into research. Second is when the actual paper starts to take formation... then we give a presentation at the end of the school year to the teachers in our major about what the paper was about/what we found.

thegnat
11-06-2007, 05:09 PM
I'd have a nervous breakdown if I were a science major :P The cost of the books alone!

The worst part about being an English major IMO is the books. I don't mind the papers (unless I have 2-3 all due in the same week) but getting 6-8 books per class and having to read at least 1,250 pages per week (est. 250 pages per book x 5 classes) is really time consuming, even with my ability to read fast.

Man, you and mind_wander are nuts.

Yeah reading like that would be tough - I barely read my textbooks except to help me with problem sets. My econ one is barely opened.

But the papers would kill me. I have to start lab reports at the very least a week ahead of time. This one I started 1.5 weeks ahead. Got it done (17 pages, but end-noting sources and working with tables in word is a pain in the a**!) at 3am of the day it was due. That's like my writing quotient. Lab reports/semester is all I can really handle to write which is only about 2. Creative writing isn't my strength either. I *prefer* scientific writing but I still have a lot of work to do.

I think that's kind of what our comps are going to be. We'll basically delve into research and present at the end of the year. Hopefully I'll have something good to come out of research either next semester or the following.

yeah, they rip you off with text books and they really aren't all that great.

mind_wander
11-06-2007, 10:32 PM
I'd have a nervous breakdown if I were a science major *:P The cost of the books alone!

The worst part about being an English major IMO is the books. *I don't mind the papers (unless I have 2-3 all due in the same week) but getting 6-8 books per class and having to read at least 1,250 pages per week (est. 250 pages per book x 5 classes) is really time consuming, even with my ability to read fast.

Man, you and mind_wander are nuts.

Yeah reading like that would be tough - I barely read my textbooks except to help me with problem sets. *My econ one is barely opened. *

But the papers would kill me. *I have to start lab reports at the very least a week ahead of time. *This one I started 1.5 weeks ahead. *Got it done (17 pages, but end-noting sources and working with tables in word is a pain in the a**!) at 3am of the day it was due. *That's like my writing quotient. *Lab reports/semester is all I can really handle to write which is only about 2. Creative writing isn't my strength either. *I *prefer* scientific writing but I still have a lot of work to do. *

I think that's kind of what our comps are going to be. *We'll basically delve into research and present at the end of the year. *Hopefully I'll have something good to come out of research either next semester or the following. *

yeah, they rip you off with text books and they really aren't all that great. *
Well actually, I chunk it in bits and pieces, then put it all together. Doing it all at once is insane, like you quoted. Same goes for paper, as for getting textbooks is a ripoff,"That's why you get them online or buy international editions copies or used textbooks."

deicruxified
11-07-2007, 04:47 AM
Like, I should go drinking this evening... but what will I actually do.. Hmm.. Learn about some hacks for adsense in blogs, SEO for blogs, Do some specification work for some designs I will be registering with the trademark office, assessing suppliers. And... wasting time making endless cups of coffee... *;D

i remeber way back in '06 when i was writing my thesis. i had 5 bottles of pilsen on my computer desk. beer makes me more awake than coffee which is strange. so when they told me my thesis was candidate for best philosophical thesis (i was writing bertrand russell's critical thinking for education... blah), i was shocked because i was thinking that my thesis was a product of sober-ness when they all found it a work of genius. when i told them it was a result of pilsen they never believed me. lol ;D

seriously, i absorb info very well when i'm drunk so when i drink with my buds and they want to test if i'm really drunk, i tell them all the things they did when they are drunk lol... my thesis proposal alone was 180 pages at required font face and size - arial 11. when the panelists checked it they said, "we're only asking for a thesis proposal not the thesis so just keep the rest for next term" hehehe

deicruxified
11-07-2007, 04:56 AM
So the question is: Do you have problems with the limited time that exists versus all the things (personal objectives) you'd like to undertake.
i think i'd have to be einstein on this one... with beer TIME IS RELATIVE ;D