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Uberfuhrer
05-22-2008, 06:53 PM
I just saw Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which was great nostalgic entertainment. It was right in that it toned down the CGI in favor of miniatures, courtesy of Kerner Optical, and digital composites, courtesy of ILM under the supervision of Pablo Helman.

Harrison Ford as Dr. Jones looked good in the movie, and he's still just as bad-ass as the last time we saw him back in 1989.

Problematic, however, is that I think they've run out of ideas for new kinds of vermin in large quantities (i.e., snakes in Raiders of the Lost Ark, bugs in Temple of Doom, and rats in Last Crusade).

Somehow, I always knew that another Indiana Jones was possible even with an aged Harrison Ford.

An odd quirk in the film was how the Lucasfilm logo showed up before the Paramount logo at the beginning. I guess that was so they could have the trademark Indiana Jones Paramount logo dissolve into a mountain that is part of the film.

notoppings
05-22-2008, 07:59 PM
I watched it today also and was very happy with the movie. I'll try to limit my comments so I don't spoil it for others, but they did a great job in pulling the first movie's characters together.

The director also did a great job in the final sequence setting up the potential passing of the hat, I whole heartedly agree with the selection of the actor, if they use him for the possible continuation of the series. He has had a great carrier so far and deserves to be in this series.

Mozzes
05-22-2008, 08:02 PM
I'm going to see it this weekend. I don't expect it to be as good as the originals, but as long as there are plenty of explosions and booby traps I suspect I'll walk away happy. Might feel kind of weird without Nazis though.

azelismia
05-23-2008, 01:53 AM
It was cheezygoodness. Much better than I was expecting. I liked a lot of the little random details they threw in. as far as the passing of the hat, I think he'd make an AWFUL indy. the only person I see taking the hat is The guy who played the captain from Firefly. he's a bit old to take up a super young indy jr jr but if you put it fast forward enough years to where he gets his education it would be just right.

Szarra
05-23-2008, 09:08 AM
An odd quirk in the film was how the Lucasfilm logo showed up before the Paramount logo at the beginning.

Why is it odd? Indiana Jones is owned by Lucasfilms.

as far as the passing of the hat

I haven't seen the movie yet but I knew that was going to happen! This video (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) has me thinking no-no-no too. ;D

Uberfuhrer
05-23-2008, 10:07 AM
Why is it odd? Indiana Jones is owned by Lucasfilms.

But traditionally, the studio logo comes before the production company logo.

If they showed the Paramount logo before the Lucasfilm logo, then they wouldn't be able to directly dissolve the Paramount mountain into a mountain or mountain-shaped form that is part of the actual movie, as was featured in all the Indiana Jones movies -- it was a trademark in the series.





Uberfuhrer added to this post, 34 minutes and 12 seconds later...

I have to say, too, that I was disappointed with the Wilhelm scream in this movie; it was barely noticeable. (That scream is in pretty much every Lucasfilm-produced movie.)

But I love the Wilhelm scream.

Lucan
05-23-2008, 01:52 PM
Ok, first of all I haven't seen it yet but I will soon, and secondly I think that Harrison Ford can pull it off as he is just himself. I don't mind paying money to see this kind of film but I wouldn't want to pay to see Sylvester Stallone or Arnold Schwartsenarger in a movie. Look at what they look like today compared to Harrison Ford.

notoppings
05-23-2008, 02:51 PM
It was cheezygoodness. Much better than I was expecting. I liked a lot of the little random details they threw in. as far as the passing of the hat, I think he'd make an AWFUL indy. the only person I see taking the hat is The guy who played the captain from Firefly. he's a bit old to take up a super young indy jr jr but if you put it fast forward enough years to where he gets his education it would be just right.



Maybe it's me but I think LaBeauf has a great acting range and would be just great in a new round of Indiana Jones Movies, he works hard and has great appeal.

azelismia
05-23-2008, 02:53 PM
Maybe it's me but I think LaBeauf has a great acting range and would be just great in a new round of Indiana Jones Movies, he works hard and has great appeal.

zero appeal as far as I am concerned. he's not indy. He fits the roll as a punk ass kid but as a educated explorer with world wise skills.. nope. doesn't fit. he'd ruin the franchise imho.

Mozzes
05-23-2008, 02:56 PM
zero appeal as far as I am concerned. he's not indy. He fits the roll as a punk ass kid but as a educated explorer with world wise skills.. nope. doesn't fit. he'd ruin the franchise imho.

Is it the actor or the character you don't find appealing?

azelismia
05-23-2008, 02:59 PM
Is it the actor or the character you don't find appealing?


I don't know anything about the actor. Only that he doesn't fit the roll.

Szarra
05-23-2008, 03:14 PM
But traditionally, the studio logo comes before the production company logo.

Oh! I see now. I never noticed that before.

Is it the actor or the character you don't find appealing?

I know this wasn't addressed to me but, to me it doesn't matter how well the character is written if the actor can't become that character. If an actor is often cast as Mr. ToughGuy then it's going to take some really good acting to break the mold and play Mr. Sensitive convincingly. In other words, they have to leave Mr. ToughGuy completely at home. It's not that they are bad actors, just not the actor to pull off that particular part. I think with LeBeauf only time will tell if he can grow into the hat. Though, to me, it doesn't really look like he would at this time.

azelismia
05-23-2008, 03:55 PM
Oh! I see now. I never noticed that before.



I know this wasn't addressed to me but, to me it doesn't matter how well the character is written if the actor can't become that character. If an actor is often cast as Mr. ToughGuy then it's going to take some really good acting to break the mold and play Mr. Sensitive convincingly. In other words, they have to leave Mr. ToughGuy completely at home. It's not that they are bad actors, just not the actor to pull off that particular part. I think with LeBeauf only time will tell if he can grow into the hat. Though, to me, it doesn't really look like he would at this time.


I mean come on,

Indy?

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Or INDY!!

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Szarra
05-23-2008, 07:57 PM
I mean come on,

Indy?

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Or INDY!!

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Indy.
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I wasn't refering to looks, but rather acting style. At this time Le Beauf seems rather limited. Though, that could change as he gets older and gets more work.

azelismia
05-23-2008, 09:25 PM
Indy.
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I wasn't refering to looks, but rather acting style. At this time Le Beauf seems rather limited. Though, that could change as he gets older and gets more work.


acting style is inherent, i am going on the assumption that everyone has seen firefly. the role that he plays is basically han solo and he looks the part. The other guy doesn't have the right looks (too reedy and punky) and his acting style follows his looks. His acting style is insecure, he doesn't have the IT required to be indy.

INTJoe
05-26-2008, 11:29 AM
I agree about Shia Lebouf...he's one of those guys you just want to punch in the face everytime you see him. I haven't liked him since he was on that teenage show on Nick.

No idea why Spielberg keeps trying to make him this huge star. He's like the next "Chosen One", for some inexplicable reason. Transformers, Indy.... how old is this kid? 22???

The movie was about what I expected...which is to say it probably slightly surpassed my expectations, as my typical movie expectations are too high. They managed to hide that Indy is 900 years old now, and it was never a distraction in the movie.

One huge beef I had was that the actors did a piss-poor job of simulating carrying a giant solid crystal skull. The thing was obviously plastic, and you could tell by the way they handled it that it wasn't heavy at all. They could have at least tried to simulate that it weighed more than 12 ounces.

Wait a minute... *SPOILER ALERT*... in a movie where they fall down 3 waterfalls, unscraped...this is what bothered me!? lol.

lordrrr
05-27-2008, 11:11 PM
This shit better be good. I'm seeing it with my GF this Friday.

Dream Weaver
05-28-2008, 09:57 AM
This shit better be good.

It's worth your while.


I agree about Shia Lebouf...he's one of those guys you just want to punch in the face everytime you see him. I haven't liked him since he was on that teenage show on Nick.

I think he's turned into a decent actor, but I still see him as that doofus Louis on "Even Stevens". As far as playing Indy, I'm not sure. As Szarra said, time will tell.

Henry
05-28-2008, 12:01 PM
This shit better be good. I'm seeing it with my GF this Friday.

Its like a drunk evening with an attractive ESFP. Dumb, dumb, dumb but a lot of fun.

lordrrr
05-28-2008, 06:50 PM
Its like a drunk evening with an attractive ESFP. Dumb, dumb, dumb but a lot of fun.

Havn't had one of those. Only ESFP's I know are Christians.

Uberfuhrer
05-28-2008, 07:10 PM
I think he's turned into a decent actor, but I still see him as that doofus Louis on "Even Stevens". As far as playing Indy, I'm not sure. As Szarra said, time will tell.

Luckily, the first movie I ever saw Shia LeBeouf in was Transformers, which I thought was one of the best films of 2007...although it wasn't good because of the human characters. But just as there's more to a movie than special effects and action, there's also more to a movie than characters and plot! ;)

I honestly don't care about the actors. I go to the movies to enjoy myself.

And I personally love movies whose characters are treated as drones to advance the plot. There is something very INTJ about that particular narrative style...

Mozzes
05-28-2008, 07:26 PM
Luckily, the first movie I ever saw Shia LeBeouf in was Transformers, which I thought was one of the best films of 2007...although it wasn't good because of the human characters.

I beg to differ. Megan Fox was the only reason I made it to the end of that movie. :lovestruck:

lordrrr
05-28-2008, 08:52 PM
I beg to differ. Megan Fox was the only reason I made it to the end of that movie. :lovestruck:

Ooooo I hear you man :thumbsup:

Zadoc
05-29-2008, 12:27 AM
This movie was absolutely garbage, and I love the original three. The franchise is dead in my eyes, and I have nothing nice to say about George Lucas.

That's as much as I'm willing to say without posting spoilers.

Claptonian
05-29-2008, 01:22 PM
I beg to differ. Megan Fox was the only reason I made it to the end of that movie. :lovestruck:

Seconded, though I thought Shia LaBeouf did pretty well considering what he had to work with. Horrible, horrible movie.

mind_wander
05-29-2008, 04:40 PM
I managed to watched the movie on Memorial Day. I think that I'm cursed or something, in life I always get interrupted alot. So happy, no more phone commerical. Wow, too good to be true, until I was watching the DLP movie theatre, like 1/4 of the way it stopped. Yeah, I wasn't happy like everyone. What happened to the movie? Cut to the some action scene's, then it stopped. Are we going to see more annoying commerical's? Later, it continued :) Overall, its a good movie, wished there is some more dialogue. Most people will go asleep, while I am more intrigued about some more insites about the crystal skulls.

xtremegeek
05-29-2008, 04:46 PM
Saw it. Loved it! Can't wait for the passing of the hat. I wish Sean Connery would have had a scene or two, but his abscence didn't take away from the movie.

lordrrr
05-29-2008, 05:08 PM
I loved the actual movie itself though (Transformers)

Uberfuhrer
06-01-2008, 03:19 PM
I can't believe Indy got knocked off the top spot by Sex and the City at this weekend's box office.

Although in a way, it makes sense. Sex and the City is the very type of movie that men will go see with their girlfriends in the hopes of getting laid, thereby doubling ticket sales.

anul
06-01-2008, 03:34 PM
I did not care for this movie. I was so excited for this movie, and I thought it was complete garbage.

Marcus
06-03-2008, 11:20 AM
I think it was rather a nostalgic feel-good get together than a movie. The first 1/3 was forgettable. The last 2/3 worth as much as the movie ticket, nothing more, nothing less.

I don't know if it's just my cultural background, but the portrayal of the Russian villains did not pass for me.

Danisty
06-05-2008, 09:21 AM
I thought the movie was pretty good. It seems to me that the people who didn't like it must be forgetting how cheesy the first three movies were.

I don't know if it's just my cultural background, but the portrayal of the Russian villains did not pass for me.It wasn't convincing to me either, but I'm not sure if it was supposed to be. I saw it more as a caricature..a picture of what many Americans thought of Russians during the time that this movie was supposed to be taking place.

Marcus
06-05-2008, 01:38 PM
I thought the movie was pretty good. It seems to me that the people who didn't like it must be forgetting how cheesy the first three movies were.
Expectations were raised since. And age also makes it's effect (on me).


It wasn't convincing to me either, but I'm not sure if it was supposed to be. I saw it more as a caricature..a picture of what many Americans thought of Russians during the time that this movie was supposed to be taking place.
I suspected something like that. Also, I did not find the idea of placing it to the 50s really original. It was already done (and in a way better) in Back to the Future. Still had some fun, though.

vanidence
10-23-2008, 06:26 PM
I really liked the Indiana Jones Movie, just as much as I liked all the others and the Games of Course.
It also did NOT bother me, that in the End it was so much Sci-Fi. But I feared that some People will not like that at all.
And actually, when I asked around after I saw the Movie, I found out I was right. Some People seriously DID say it was too "Sci-Fi".
I don't know, I still liked it a lot. Harrison Ford is a great Actor. ^^