Just Curious! What MBTI you guys think I am?

[PRBori]

OK, so I'm 100% sure I'm an INTJ because it describes me death on, but I had other people said that I'm an ISTJ. So my question is, what you guys think I am? Also, what you can you deduct about my personality from my postings besides me having an OLD and Mother like mentality...

I know curiosity kills, but I'm curious to hear what others have to say...:anxious:

Oh... and yes, you can be brutally direct... I don't mind that at all

[SmileyMan]

Many ISTJs test as INTJs.

See how this (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) describes you.

[Antares]

I really don't know, but your habit of typing like THIS really brings about an SJ impression. I'd say ISXJ.

[PRBori]

OK SmileyMan, this is how I come out with the description of an ISTJ:

sense of right and wrong, especially in their area of interest and/or responsibility. – Yes, I can see some of this in me.

Punctuality is a watchword of the ISTJ. – Nope… I tend to be late quite a bit

very loyal, faithful, and dependable – Only to selected few, not everyone get’s my loyalty or can fully depend on me, specially if I want to cut them off from my line of friendships… This however is TRUE for my work only.


They place great importance on honesty and integrity. – Yes, it is true. Honesty and Integrity are important to me.

They are "good citizens" who can be depended on to do the right thing for their families and communities. – Hmmm… I’ll have to questions this one. Would I help someone in need? I guess YES, but it depends on many things.


While they generally take things very seriously, they also usually have an offbeat sense of humor and can be a lot of fun - especially at family or work-related gatherings." – Hmmm…. I’m not the funny type, that side hardly ever comes out although I’ve being told that I am… [doubting myself]


private, does not appreciate strangeness – True to some extend. I tend to only deal with co-workers the most, everyone else is limited. Exception are made of course but rare.

not adventurous – NOPE, I like adventures, I would love to be LOST somewhere and find my way out by practicing survival skills… what can be more adventurous than that?

not spontaneous – NOPE, I can be spontaneous sometimes, although I prefer to plan things, I don’t mind taking off without planning. For example, back in the days when I was 17, I got piss off at somebody so bad that I felt I need it to go away, so I did, I took off to New Jersey without calling my step-sister or letting her know I was heading her way for a weekend. Pretty much just show off at her house and told nothing to anyone, not even my work. I remember, I almost got fired because of that…

follows the rules At work – Hah… to some extend, but I tend to questions the rules a lot and do not care about bring up my view on any with any personnel level. I’m persistent on my ways, extremely persistent to the point I get my way MOST of the time, if not ALL…


get things done on a timely basis. – Hmm… it depends, sometimes, but not all the time. I like to take my time sometimes and would request extensions quite a bit.

They honor deadlines, and they believe in thoroughness. – Only if they are feasible, mot places have unfeasible deadlines and I let them know straight up whether they are feasible or not.

They established procedures and schedules – Hmm… I love to recommend procedures, I’m not much into schedules at all. Only follow a schedule when necessary.

are uncomfortable with those who do not follow establish procedures and schedules – Nah.. don’t really care what others do, I’m more focus on what I need to do to achieve my goals, so as long as they don’t interfere with it, I don’t really care.

duty before pleasure – Well, to some extend, yes, I’m a workaholic and career goals go above anything, including sacrificing to ensure my family has a good life.

Their work does not have to be fun, but it has to count toward something productive. – My work has to be challenging, if my brain doesn’t tick, I won’t like it. If I’m not given multiple tasks or given the opportunity to learn new areas I’m not a happy camper at all.

vacations are something that one takes only when work has been accomplished – Hmm.. I don’t take vacations but is not because work has to be accomplished.. is mainly because as a consultant most jobs tend to last less than 6 months and I feel that anytime I start a new job is not good to take a vacation which is why I haven’t taken one for years… not to mention that at this point I have other goals in mind that overtake a vacation until they are fully completed. (i.e, being debt free, buying a house, being financially stable, etc.)

[taoista]

I have a hunch that you´re an N.

Maybe you do too.

[PRBori]

INTJ Qualities I relate to:

"...approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity – All my life I've always strategize and have contingency plans… After all I always have a Plan B and C for most everything I do.

Observer – Yes, I like to observe the world around me.

values solitude – More than life… although kind of hard with kids around.. hehehe.

Perfectionist – I like to excel at everything I have in mind for that’s the only way to reach my goals, and I have very high goals.

Detached – Extremely detached from family and friends alike.

Private – More than I like too sometimes

does not talk about feelings – Do not mind talking about them if the person is not in front of me but have a hard time talking about them face-to-face.


hard to impress – Yes, before I compromised I was hard to impress, and now that I decided NEVER to compromise I’m harder to impress

analytical – More than I like too sometimes… my head never stops ticking.

likes esoteric things – Hmm… Let’s take a look at the meaning of the word “ESOTERIC”

1.
a. Intended for or understood by only a particular group: an esoteric cult. See synonyms at mysterious.
b. Of or relating to that which is known by a restricted number of people.
2.
a. Confined to a small group: esoteric interests.
b. Not publicly disclosed; confidential.

Yes, I guess I fit in that as well quite a lot.

project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence – All the time, too many people have told me so, and I know so myself.

When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how – Yeap, if there is something I can’t do I will tell you straight up even interviewers. As a matter of fact when my current job asked me what I felt was negative on my skills I said “English Grammar” for it’s not my first language. I’m not a shame of it, I know I need to work on it but I’m straight I let them know that they will need to revise my work after I do it. Every job I’ve done understand that and helps in the area, but they also recognized the fact that whatever I suggest works so is a trade-off. After all my English is not that bad compare to others… I’ve known people who where born here and are worse than I am.

use their conceptual strengths to analyze situations and then develop models to understand and anticipate through relentlessly to reach their goals. – What can I say, exactly what I do…. I carefully review all my options and what steps are necessary for me to achieve my goals.


They will continue on with their plans, even in the face of adversity and data that might suggest to other more practical types that their goals are no longer feasible. – Yeap, I might consider other ways but normally there are no better ways than my ways… [slap in the head: Did I just said that?]

independent individualists – All my life… so much I ran away at 16 and was basically on my own with no family. I just worked full-time to support myself and when feasible helped my family back. I hate to depend on people.

[Uberfuhrer]

INTJs can seem like ISTJs on the surface because they both extravert Thinking. The difference is that ISTJs follow established norms while INTJs follow their own dreams.

[Motor Jax]

i can sooooo see myself an N (or is it J?)... anyways...

talk about perfectionist, i'd rather do it myself than have someone else do it wrongly


i just had lug nut bolts replaced on my truck, and i was all like;

"i just need to lug nut bolts put on. i know how to change the brakes, the tires, balancing, alignment. i don't need anything else other than the lug nuts bolts changed. i just don't have the tools nor the time. but i can change everything else. oh, and to start the truck, you have to do this, and then that. make sure this is here. and if you ever lock the ignition, the key to unlock the ignition is here. now here are the wires, right up under here and..........."


sorry, just a little tangent

i just get nervous when i'm not doing it myself

[PRBori]

Well I check my car liquids and do my own tune-up... Yes I change the sparkplugs myself.... If I could change the oil and the oil filter I would too...

But limitations outside of my grasp do not allow me to do everything in my car...

Ouch... a women with greasy hands... yeap that's how I am. I like to take care of my car as much as possible for I need it. Mechanics are expensive and come handy on those areas that required men power, although I wish to someday have my own garage so I don't have to depend on them so much...

Of course outside my IT career that is, I wouldn't trade that for anything else.

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I've also done construction and I plan to get a fixer up house..maybe not a lot to fix but quite a bit... I would like to do the drywalls, and the floors, and the bathrooms...

OK, ok... too much talking... someday I'm sure I will... someday soon..

I guess not too girly after all.... but not manly either... somewhere in between

:p

[Freak]

I think you are an INTJ but perhaps due to your work requirements you appear to be ISTJ. I am interested in know who are typing you as ISTJ...your coworkers (speculating here) ?

[PRBori]

I think you are an INTJ but perhaps due to your work requirements you appear to be ISTJ. I am interested in know who are typing you as ISTJ...your coworkers (speculating here) ?

NO, a few members here have pointed out that I may be an ISTJ... I think from my post on the Prostitution thread if I remember correctly...

I think my weird views sometimes tend to portray the ISTJ.

[sriv]

INTJ vs ISTJ (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

Also, describe your Ni to me in your own words.

[Motor Jax]

and you work on vehicles? wow, now that is a way to this man's heart

seriously, that is truly impressive

[PRBori]

OK here are my INFJ

gentle, caring – only to a selected few… mainly family and those I care for


complex and highly intuitive – I do consider myself complex and highly intuitive

Artistic and creative – Hmm… not sure about this one… I guess in a way I am to some extend but not a whole lot.

they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities- I guess some people would say so… not 100% sure what it really entails

"live in the here and now" of the physical world – Hmm… I live for today but plan for tomorrow. I take life a day by day. I don’t pound much on the past and I don’t kill myself for the future.

grasp the hidden psychological stimuli behind the more observable dynamics of behavior and affect – I think so. I like to know what’s behind a persons behavior and try to understand the reasons of such behavior and affect.

Creative – I think I’m creative in my own ways.

Smart – Hah… no doubt…on certain subjects of course

focus on fantasy more than reality – Not Me. I tend to focus on reality and based my views on reality most of the time. Fantasies are great but will never allow me to reach my goals.

attracted to sad things – Not at all. I’m more attracted to positive, motivational things.

fears doing the wrong thing – Not at all. I really don’t care what people think but I do try to avoid doing wrong things for my sense of right and wrong is kind of strong.

Observer – Well a typical INTJ trait, so yes I like to observe

Avoidant- to some extend I tend to avoid things until I’m able to deal with it

desire to contribute to the welfare of others and genuinely enjoy helping their companions – This is very true for the men in my life. I like men who work towards a goal and I will stand by their side even if it is financially. I will sometimes put them above anything just to make sure they reach their goal…. But I have requirement and respect and honesty is extremely important for me. Sometimes I do so too much, so my Feelings do tend to come out here quite a bit... only with that other person I either wish or want to be part of my life... and almost all the time I end up hurting myself in the process because it tends to be a ONE WAY only rather than a TWO WAY as I would like it to be.... anyway...

they nevertheless work quite intensely with those close to them – True with my partner or family members I feel are worth my time.

quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes – to some extend I plan things quietly and have my ways to influence to some extend

devoted to what they believe in – Yes, very much so even if it goes against the waves

seek work where their needs, values, and ideals can be deeply engaged – Hmm… not sure. My ideal environment allows me to explore and learn. It’s a family environment, relax to some extend, yet extremely challenging. I like to have a saying, analyzed processes and streamline them.

They move on the wave of their inspirations – To some extend, not all the time. I'm more grounded in reality and facts.

are determined to see that their values are worked out in their lives- hmm… certain values such as respect, honesty, and integrity are essential in my life.

They will work toward their goals individually – All the time

when needed, will put together a team of other highly dedicated people like themselves – if it allows me to reach my goals, then yes. I do anything to ensure my goals are reached.





PRBori added to this post, 0 minutes and 52 seconds later...

and you work on vehicles? wow, now that is a way to this man's heart

seriously, that is truly impressive

I don't mind it at all... I like handy stuff. Just like taking a computer apart and putting it back together..

[Motor Jax]

i actually do that as my (navy) job. you know, with computers

[PRBori]

i actually do that as my (navy) job. you know, with computers

Cool. I still do it once in a while for private clients... can't live without my tools set... I love tools a lot...

[azelismia]

NO, a few members here have pointed out that I may be an ISTJ... I think from my post on the Prostitution thread if I remember correctly...

I think my weird views sometimes tend to portray the ISTJ.

I don't know what I'd type you as but you don't seem terribly intj to me. What are your numerical scores on the MBTI? are you close to the middle on the S/n and/or T/f axis?

[PRBori]

I don't know what I'd type you as but you don't seem terribly intj to me. What are your numerical scores on the MBTI? are you close to the middle on the S/n and/or T/f axis?


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As you can see I'm not close to anything. I'm extreme in ALL letters.

[azelismia]

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As you can see I'm not close to anything. I'm extreme in ALL letters.


uh actually no. you're close to borderline on s/n axis.

[sriv]

Also, describe your Ni to me in your own words.

Umm...I guess my question was ignored. :(

[PRBori]

Umm...I guess my question was ignored. :(

I'm sorry... what would you consider Ni? Are there specific questions I should answer?

[sriv]

I'm sorry... what would you consider Ni? Are there specific questions I should answer?

No specific questions. Do you have a general understanding of what Ni is? I just want you to describe your dominant function as best you can.
(try not to do any research...I want an intuitive answer)

[PRBori]

No specific questions. Do you have a general understanding of what Ni is? I just want you to describe your dominant function as best you can.
(try not to do any research...I want an intuitive answer)

Not familiar with Ni at all. There is nothing providing specific information on what's consider Ni when taking a test so I would like more information please. Thx.

Also, wouldn't some of my answers above describe the Ni already?

[sriv]

Not familiar with Ni at all. There is nothing providing specific information on what's consider Ni when taking a test so I would like more information please. Thx.



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Ni itself is very hard to explain, so I understand your difficulty. Most INTJs have little to no conception of their dominant trait and take it for granted (including me).

Also, wouldn't some of my answers above describe the Ni already?
There is a little bit of Ni here and there. "creative in my own way", "extremely detached", private, likes esoteric things.

[Motor Jax]

it is taken for granted, even by me

try explaining to an ESTP who has no conception of the idea, and you have my frustrations...

although, you could ask her for her opinion

[Uytuun]

ISTP? Tools and all. :p

[Motor Jax]

tools have got to be an N thing... seriously


you know how much we could fix with the world with a good set of tools?


they are craftsman, right?

[azelismia]

tools have got to be an N thing... seriously


you know how much we could fix with the world with a good set of tools?


they are craftsman, right?

I dont' think tools are an n thing. they'are a sensate thing

[Motor Jax]

mmm, i like tools

[ssrprotege]

INTJs can seem like ISTJs on the surface because they both extravert Thinking. The difference is that ISTJs follow established norms while INTJs follow their own dreams.

Agreed. Another reason is that it's extraverted Thinking and extraverted Sensing form the outer persona. introverted Feeling and intuition are "stubbornly introverted," to quote from a book. My another guess is that INTJs are good logicians, and this can make them detail-oriented to the point they are nitpicking . People can perceive INTJs as being caught up by the details for this reason . This detail-oriented side can appear as Sensing.

But INTJ's do have J's: that means they can appear methodical in some way, even though Intuition may balance Judging out. Would that be another reason why INTJs can appear ISTJ?





ssrprotege added to this post, 6 minutes and 49 seconds later...


tools have got to be an N thing... seriously


you know how much we could fix with the world with a good set of tools?


they are craftsman, right?I dont' think tools are an n thing. they'are a sensate thing

Really depends on what kind of "tools" you are referring to. When it comes to crafts or hands-on tools, then it's likely for the Artisans (SP's); on the other hand, if "tools" are more related to technology, then it's for the Rationals (NT's). I want to explain further, but I find it hard to convey in words and it will become unnecessarily lengthy....

[azelismia]

Agreed. Another reason is that it's extraverted Thinking and extraverted Sensing form the outer persona. introverted Feeling and intuition are "stubbornly introverted," to quote from a book. My another guess is that INTJs are good logicians, and this can make them detail-oriented to the point they are nitpicking . People can perceive INTJs as being caught up by the details for this reason . This detail-oriented side can appear as Sensing.

But INTJ's do have J's: that means they can appear methodical in some way, even though Intuition may balance Judging out. Would that be another reason why INTJs can appear ISTJ?




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Really depends on what kind of "tools" you are referring to. When it comes to crafts or hands-on tools, then it's likely for the Artisans (SP's); on the other hand, if "tools" are more related to technology, then it's for the Rationals (NT's). I want to explain further, but I find it hard to convey in words and it will become unnecessarily lengthy....

Right, the topic above had been directly related to working on cars and the tools that go with it.

[PRBori]

OK, so I did a search on Ni and this is what I found and How I fit

Introverted Intuition - Ni (INFJ, INTJ)

Ni’s constantly wonder and guess in their head - they do this so often that they often don’t even realize that they are doing it. It more or less becomes a part of them. Ni’s easily get lost in the mind and are thus very introspective, and often pull out ingenious ideas and insights. They view life more globally than any other type, striving to never let themselves forget about the big picture. Ni’s constantly shift their perspectives, and view and understand things from different angles and in different ways.


I tend to wonder a lot, especially when its work related. I tend to come up with ideas all the time, especially when I want to streamline a difficult process or plan. I tend to look ahead to the future in order to plan the steps I need to reach the goals I have in mind. I always look at the big picture, especially when developing systems. I always want a way that can be flexible, expandable, and applicable in the long run. I tend to shift my perspective and views quite a bit; as a matter of fact, I’ve being doing that in the religious side at this point. I do like to look at things from different angles and ways.

Under extreme stress Ni’s become paranoid and overly withdrawn. Their inferior function jumps them, and they become overly interested in details and obsessed with physical pleasure. They become slaves to childlike impulses, sometimes ruining themselves with their decisions in the process.

I tend to be overly withdrawn to myself a lot. Sometimes I do become paranoid of health issues or just going out on my own. I do tend to get interested in details quite a bit and when in the right mood I like physical pleasure. Not sure on the childlike impulse….

Ni’s confidently trust their intuitions, insights, ideas, and inspirations - often no matter what others say. Their thoughts become part of who they are. They don’t need to rely on others, and they enjoy time to themselves. Their strong independence is a good thing, but they also have a natural suspicion about others and need to learn to trust them (INTJ’s in particular).

I’ll have to say that I always trust my intuition, insight, ideas, and inspirations and really don’t care much about what others say. I don’t rely on anyone and definetedly enjoy time alone. I’m extremely independent and it is hard for me to fully trust someone I don’t feel at ease with.

Ni’s prefer to think things through as completely as possible and dislike it when others come to quick, simplistic conclusions. Ni’s are known to get frustrated with others. INTJ’s are more likely to show this than INFJs, but nonetheless it is there, and often strongly felt. Ni’s need to remind themselves that they are extremely rare and should be proud that they see things that others don’t. Nonetheless one can certainly understand their grievance with what sometimes seems like the shallow, ignorant ways of the world.

Hmm.. I do like to think things thru and some times I can be irritated when someone has their own conclusions. Yes, I always say I’m a rare breed and proud of what I’m capable of doing.

Ni’s continually think about the future, what it may hold, and how what they are currently doing with their life affects it. Ni’s are too often hypersensitive to contingencies, possibilities and implications. To the Ni, anything is possible and could happen. Some Ni’s focus too much on those “coulds” and become worrywarts. Ni’s need to develop their auxiliary function to keep them in touch with the reality of the external world. When Ni’s don’t use their other functions, their unique visions turn to far-fetched crackpot theories, and their confidence turns to downright obstinance.

Yes, I’m always thinking on how I need to improve my current situation in order to reach what I have in mind for the future… maybe a little too much sometimes. I always plan for contingency, possibilities and implications. As odd as it may sound when my daughter was a under 1 I used to carry a grill, utensils, can food, water, and anything I could think off that would be necessary if the car stop in the middle of nowhere during winter time that would last for at least 5 days. In addition, I tend to have Plan B and C as a general rule. I tend to be extremely confident and I do tend to stay in touch with reality, so I think I had develop some auxiliary functions.

Another source of frustration for Ni’s is their difficulty articulating their complex views and intuitions. However, when they are able to do this, the result is typically both impressive and impactful.

Hmm… Sometimes is hard for me to express my views and tend to hold on until I have a solid presentation of it. In this case I’m talking about an application. When I think of it, I know exactly how I wanted, what I want it to do, but it’s a little hard to always go back and explain to others the main reasons why I developed something in a particular way. However, when it comes to explaining technical jargons in non-technical jargon I seem to have a gift to some extend. I’m good at training others and developing friendly user guides.

More on Introverted Intuitives:

Take pride in their strong perseverance, drive, and will power. – All the time.

Can be sensitive to and easily overwhelmed by external stimuli - too some extend

Often think of things that others don’t – Most of the time, specially when it comes to streamlining a process

Need intellectual stimulation – All the time… if I’m not challenge, I’m brain dead.

Aren’t afraid of the complex - they often prefer it. – I yearn for complexity… the more complex the problem the better.





PRBori added to this post, 2 minutes and 12 seconds later...

Right, the topic above had been directly related to working on cars and the tools that go with it.

Not really. Cars is just one section. I use them mainly for computers. What I said in regards to cars is that I do my own work on my car and do not mind doing mechanical work. Again, that's somehow consider technical.

When it comes to tools for carving, or some artistic project, then is more of an Si. I'm not good at carving things... and I'm not talking about cutting fancy wood work either. Although, I'm sure if I put my mind to learn wood carving and cutting I could easily, but is certainly not on my top priorities at this point.

[Motor Jax]

i'm all technical... all the way

i do my own mechanical work, and i work on networks

a tool is a tool to get the job done

[PRBori]

i'm all technical... all the way

i do my own mechanical work, and i work on networks

a tool is a tool to get the job done

Me too... I have plenty of tools, whether they are Apps to test sec settings, recover and repair software or hands-on for taking apart the computers. I'm technical all the way and I love it.





PRBori added to this post, 6 minutes and 51 seconds later...

More on the Ni characteristics...

If my understanding is correct... the questions is whether or not I'm able to fully understand a process... and my answer is YES... I tend to do a lot of what I consider "Reverse Engineering", which means that I study the process from all perspectives until I figure out exactly how it was developed or exactly what it does without any formal training. Same goes with programming... when I look at code I'm able to tell what it does... well mainly ASP, ASP.net... I haven't being able to figure out PHP yet... but I also don't have the time to do so for now I'm very focus on my current job which is Security not programming.

The understaning of how things are done or how they work comes easy to me no matter what it is. I'm stronger in science than math... although I'm sure if I really wanted I could be stronger in math but is certainly not one of my favorites at all.