Clarification on recent bannings and age restrictions.

[Jezebel]

RoyalINTJ was not banned for disagreeing with the forum rules. This started with him flaming one of our moderators in a thread for deleting posts. He then started sending me PMs complaining about the age of my moderators. When I didn't respond favorably, he continued sending the admins PMs and emails and would not drop the issue. Around the 3rd public thread he made flaming the administration of the forum (and after multiple posts flaming our moderators and other members in other threads), we banned him.

He is now evading bans, mass PMing members and creating more threads all over the forum to flame the administrators. His behavior in this matter has only proven to me that we were justified in banning him, and we will continue to ban him. We have also deleted posts he has made under his new accounts because we don't want to encourage his behavior. If you receive any PMs from him, please report them to us.

The age restriction on the forum has nothing to do with maturity of the members. This was put in place for legal reasons. We don't want even heavier moderation on the forum content due to the legal complications that come along with knowingly having a lot of underage members. Underage members that registered prior to the change are welcome to stay and we treat them just as we would any other member (we did not make an announcement about this because it did not affect any current members). Obviously we respect their maturity as we have some of them helping us out with the forum. We realize that we don't have a way to verify the age of members, but this is fine. What matters is that the age restriction is in place and members are aware of this when they join.

[sriv]

Out of curiousity, why did ShaiGar and IgnoranceIsKind get punished?

[Jezebel]

Out of curiousity, why did ShaiGar and IgnoranceIsKind get punished?
IgnoranceIsKind received a warning about advertising on this forum which carried no penalty. Shortly afterwards, there was a thread with a discussion about why we don't allow advertising on the forum. After they were well aware of our stance on this, mass PM invitations were sent out to members so the administrators would not see them publicly. A couple of members anonymously reported ShaiGar and we verified that they were advertising via PM to circumvent our advertising rules.

ShaiGar was actually not suspended for this. He only received an infraction. He then received an additional infraction for flaming another member about something completely unrelated which automatically put him in the suspension group for a week.

I am still in communication with IgnoranceIsKind and his account may be restored with no penalties as it seems he has had less involvement with this.

[Motor Jax]

i was wondering what happened

personally, i haven't yet received any pm's

and can be quite blind or naive at times, anyways

[yondyr]

lol ok, just read the other thread re lordrrr and the paste of chat. Hilarious and woeful. And now reading the reasons here... thanks for explaining. I and perhaps others felt in the dark re the goings on, and it was disturbing. I miss enough of the vernacular and the subject matters - was getting lost enough to wonder if I belonged here. Though belonging is a tenuous concept at the best of times, but I've enjoyed myself... and surveying worldwide opinions on many subjects. Thanks for being more apparent.

[Aronnax]

Thanks for clearing that up Jezebel, with the heavy deletions it's hard to figure out what has been going on. I don't mind rules but hate being "in the dark".

[ShaiGar]

Yeah, I'd much rather be banned than even able to read this forum anymore. Your treatment of IgnoranceisKind was completely Immature, and your treatment of myself was highly uncalled for.

Ban me with civility, or I'll give you plenty of reasons for banning me.

[thod]

ShaiGar - You seek revenge for what you consider an injustice. Accept your medicine like a man and let it go. It is immature to engage in the to and fro of oneupmanship in order to make your point and feel you are a winner. In this you can only be a loser.

[stasis]

Ban me with civility, or I'll give you plenty of reasons for banning me.
Oh such internet drama. Such tragedy. Self-sacrifice and tears. Breathy sighs.