The Mafia Game

[TheLastMohican]

This is the second version of the Mafia Game. Here is the original, moderated by Chimerical:
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This time I am moderating so Chimerical can play.
Here is how it will work:
Once all the players have signed up, I will write the synopsis of the game. It will be basically a murder mystery, played like a game of Mafia (in this case online).
There will be two groups: The Murderers (killers) and the Detectives (non-killers).

Only the Murderers will know who they are. To the rest of the players (the Detectives), they will try to appear to be Detectives (who will make up the majority of the players). In this version of the game, every Murderer will know the identity of every other Murderer, so the Murderers can work together if they like (or backstab, as they wish). The Murderers will be able to kill other players by various methods, depending on what weapons they are issued. The object of the Murderers is to eventually kill off all the Detectives. If they want to, the Murderers can also kill each other, and if a Murderer kills another Murderer, he inherits the dead Murderer's weapon.
Each Detective will know the identity of one other Detective, but besides that, they will not know any other identities. The object of the Detectives is to vote off all the Murderers before all the Detectives are killed. Since they do not know who the Murderers are, they must try to figure it out during the game. The Detectives can, by popular vote, place a player in Prison. The next turn after a player is put in Prison, the Detectives can, again by popular vote, decide whether to free the player (restoring him to his previous status) or execute him (removing him from the game). Their decision could be made based on whether putting that player in Prison caused the death toll of that turn to drop.There will two "phases" (times of the day in the game): Day Phase and Night Phase.

During the Day Phase, which lasts 48 hours each time, all the players can post on this thread, and talk about the game, perhaps theorizing about who the killers are. The voting, and other game-related activities, will occur during the Day Phase.
During the Night Phase, which has no real duration, but occurs every 48 hours, the killings, imprisonments and executions are carried out. Immediately after every Night Phase, I will announce who has been killed by a Murderer (but not by which Murderer), and who has been imprisoned, freed, or executed.This process will continue until either all the Detectives or all the Murderers are dead.
A new addition to the game: Questioning. Each Detective has the option of targeting one other player for questioning during each Day Phase. During a Day Phase, the Detective can ask the other player a question, and the other player must answer (truthfully or not). Questions that would spoil the game are not allowed. The questions must be related top alibis and other testimony relating to the storyline that I lay out as the game progresses. These questions are of course meant to contribute to the proper votes when Day Phase is nearing its end.

Any questions?

So far, the following have signed up:
Azelismia
Arcani
Chimerical
Marja
ShaiGar


You have until Tuesday to sign up if you want to play. Then I will send all the players Private Messages telling them whether they are Murderers or Detectives, and I will tell the Murderers what their weapons are and the identities of the other Murderers.

Oh, and once you are dead, you are not allowed post about the game.

[ShaiGar]

eeexxxxcellent.

[TheLastMohican]

eeexxxxcellent.

I'm glad you like the format; it is still subject to tweaking, so spit out any suggestions.

[ShaiGar]

I want a chaingun. With 400 bullets.

[TheLastMohican]

I want a chaingun. With 400 bullets.
If I let you have that, I'll have to make one of the Detectives Superman:
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[ShaiGar]

I want half of those bullets to be Kryptonite. And magically enhanced so that the flash cannot touch them.

[azelismia]

I'm glad you like the format; it is still subject to tweaking, so spit out any suggestions.

I like the format too but there should be something enforcing people to post or it's going to end up like the last one.

[TheLastMohican]

I like the format too but there should be something enforcing people to post or it's going to end up like the last one.

Any player who fails to answer the Question of a Detective will be automatically executed. Reprieves will be granted given valid explanations.

Any player who fails to vote in time for the Night Phase will lose voting privileges for the rest of the game, and if the player is a Murderer, he will also lose his weapon, rendering him powerless.
Hear that, people? It is very important to vote. If you cannot vote, tell me in advance and I will grant a waiver. If you wait to tell me until afterwards, I will only grant reprieves with extreme discretion.

[Arcani]

As a detective, can we direct a question at more than one person? For example, if we think two people are working together can we pose the same question to both in the same phase?

Also, are killers prohibited from questioning or can they ask questions like everyone else to try to fend off suspicion? I think it would become too easy to locate the killers if they aren't allowed to question.

[TheLastMohican]

As a detective, can we direct a question at more than one person? For example, if we think two people are working together can we pose the same question to both in the same phase?

No. But you can talk another Detective into questioning one of the two suspicious members.

Also, are killers prohibited from questioning or can they ask questions like everyone else to try to fend off suspicion? I think it would become too easy to locate the killers if they aren't allowed to question.

Yes, Murderers can mimic Detectives in any way, and their votes count as well.

[Chimerical]

Any player who fails to answer the Question of a Detective will be automatically executed. Reprieves will be granted given valid explanations.

Any player who fails to vote in time for the Night Phase will lose voting privileges for the rest of the game, and if the player is a Murderer, he will also lose his weapon, rendering him powerless.
Hear that, people? It is very important to vote. If you cannot vote, tell me in advance and I will grant a waiver. If you wait to tell me until afterwards, I will only grant reprieves with extreme discretion.

Don't vote!!!
Only YOU have the power to not make a difference.

[antisocial one]

I dont know this game at all, but why would killers kill each other when detectives are the ones who should get killed ? It looks to me that detectives does not have much of a chance if all killers work together.
Also I think that if killer kills killer he should have option to decide to take his weapon or keeping his, this way you can create some havoc in minds of people.
But I have one large proposal.
To solve many problems whit killers I think we should have detectives, mafia(killers) and one lonely but skilled sociopath who is creating problems for killers because they have no idea who he is (and he does not know them either) and if killers stop dying when they kill someone that only means that psycho stoped for the moment and he must post to stay in the game so he cant just hide. If it happens that only killers and psycho stay alive psycho wins. In case that killers are killed before the end psycho must kill everybody and detctives dont know that killers are already dead.
This way you have scared majority, kilers who to the end dont if they are killing right people and guy who is on the mission impossible.

Take all of this as: COUNT ME IN!!!

[Antares]

I'll join :devilish:

[Cuivienen]

Count me in

[Zirka]

Count me in too.

[TheLastMohican]

So far we have nine players. I had been hoping to get at least 20 for this, so if you're interested, hurry to join. I was going to start it Wednesday morning, so people need to join by tomorrow afternoon.

The more players, the better!

[AgentofGaming]

hmm, maybe I'll join but the last one made me paranoid...

[TheLastMohican]

hmm, maybe I'll join but the last one made me paranoid...

Don't worry, my killer skills cannot harm you this time around...I'm moderating. ;D

[azelismia]

no sneaky changing who is a killer part way thru the game this time!! that's not playing fair! I mean, we expected it with the stop in the game and restart but then after that Cuivienen was made a killer when she hadn't been before. Finding weapons partway thru the game is not kewl.

[Chimerical]

no sneaky changing who is a killer part way thru the game this time!! that's not playing fair! I mean, we expected it with the stop in the game and restart but then after that Cuivienen was made a killer when she hadn't been before. Finding weapons partway thru the game is not kewl.

Well she never used it anyway.

[AgentofGaming]

Don't worry, my killer skills cannot harm you this time around...I'm moderating. ;D

Yes, about last game I was suspecting Cuivienen, being the last of the newjoiners.

Yes... skills. I guess I was completely deceived, I had no idea you were the killer :thinking:
1) I did not know weapons can be passed to others
2) you had been killed before
Those two combined took you off my list of potential suspects

Although you were quite persuasive... which would have been a threat if you pointed at me.

[TheLastMohican]

Although you were quite persuasive... which would have been a threat if you pointed at me.

I think that is the most important aspect: triangulation.

But I won't delve into game theory here. I want to observe how the others go about things, especially knowing who are what.

I'm really looking forward to getting this thing going. :thumbsup:

[Chimerical]

Yes, about last game I was suspecting Cuivienen, being the last of the newjoiners.

Yes... skills. I guess I was completely deceived, I had no idea you were the killer :thinking:
1) I did not know weapons can be passed to others
2) you had been killed before
Those two combined took you off my list of potential suspects

Although you were quite persuasive... which would have been a threat if you pointed at me.

I made him a killer for those reasons. No one would ever suspect it. If you thought . o O (He's a killer because he already died) you'd be so certain that you'd have to question it. Then it would just be the coin that flips over and over and it'd be a 50/50 shot.

[mental drift]

I'm still slightly confused, but count me in. I'm sure I'll figure it out as we go. The main confusion is the murder weapon issue. Does a certain weapon or a possible array of weapons lead to a quicker death, or is it just a way to track the killer.



P.S. What if we kill ourselves because I have seen the outcome of Full Metal Jacket, and my end does not look to bright.

[Chimerical]

I'm still slightly confused, but count me in. I'm sure I'll figure it out as we go. The main confusion is the murder weapon issue. Does a certain weapon or a possible array of weapons lead to a quicker death, or is it just a way to track the killer.



P.S. What if we kill ourselves because I have seen the outcome of Full Metal Jacket, and my end does not look to bright.

The last game there was only one weapon that didn't kill instantly. Tylenol 3 was used [inspired by the T3 killers from a serial killer book I have] and killed after two turns. First the targeted players grew sick, then they died.

The other weapons were the death note, which could kill a player at a set time, but the users used it for instant death because I thought it'd be fun to pull a Ryuk and not explain all the rules for the notebook.

Then there was a lead pipe and candles. Both killed instantly but lead pipe victims were found with a concussive strike to the skull and traces of lead while candle victims were burned to death by hot wax and smelled like which ever of the three scents the killer used.

Not sure what TLM has in mind, but it's interesting when there's a little guess work involved.

[Arcani]

Hey everyone, I've got a slight problem. I will be going on vacation in one week from today (on Tuesday the 13th) and will be getting back late at night on Friday the 16th. I will probably not have internet access while I'm away.

If I did the math right I should only miss one voting phase, but you probably won't be able to ask me questions for two phases. I would still like to play and if nobody has a problem with it I could just sit out that round, or cast my vote early, or you could just put me in prison or something for that round. The other option is that I sit this game out and wait for the next one, but it seems like we're short on people and I would prefer to play...

I'll leave the decision up to TLM and the rest of the players.

[TheLastMohican]

Hey everyone, I've got a slight problem. I will be going on vacation in one week from today (on Tuesday the 13th) and will be getting back late at night on Friday the 16th. I will probably not have internet access while I'm away.
I'll leave the decision up to TLM and the rest of the players.

As outlined in post #8, I grant you a waiver for voting and questioning. Thanks for the early notice.





TheLastMohican added to this post, 4 minutes and 0 seconds later...

Not sure what TLM has in mind, but it's interesting when there's a little guess work involved.

Right, there might or might not be Death Notes. I will be introducing a new lineup of weapons, with varying causes of death and perhaps varying durations between targeting and final death (though once you are targeted, you are doomed at some point).

I will make the weapons unique, so you can follow the patterns of the deaths to see which players were killed by the same weapon (owned by a certain Murderer).

[Dreamer]

Count me in...

[antisocial one]

This could be very interesting.

[Chimerical]

Hey everyone, I've got a slight problem. I will be going on vacation in one week from today (on Tuesday the 13th) and will be getting back late at night on Friday the 16th. I will probably not have internet access while I'm away.

If I did the math right I should only miss one voting phase, but you probably won't be able to ask me questions for two phases. I would still like to play and if nobody has a problem with it I could just sit out that round, or cast my vote early, or you could just put me in prison or something for that round. The other option is that I sit this game out and wait for the next one, but it seems like we're short on people and I would prefer to play...

I'll leave the decision up to TLM and the rest of the players.

As outlined in post #8, I grant you a waiver for voting and questioning. Thanks for the early notice.


You should write it into the story somehow.

[TheLastMohican]

You should write it into the story somehow.

Oh, I will. I haven't quite figured out the story yet though; it depends on how many we have. The current total seems on the low end, and I wish we had more to work with.

[Chimerical]

Oh, I will. I haven't quite figured out the story yet though; it depends on how many we have. The current total seems on the low end, and I wish we had more to work with.

I've been trying to recruit people. So far my little brother INTP and my older sister INFP said they would play, but my sister can't post for some odd reason and/or got banned and my brother randomly got banned from her as well. But I don't understand why.

My sister it think it's because we're on the same IP. My little brother I'm not so sure because he doesn't spam and he was banned for spamming.

[TheLastMohican]

I've been trying to recruit people. So far my little brother INTP and my older sister INFP said they would play, but my sister can't post for some odd reason and/or got banned and my brother randomly got banned from her as well. But I don't understand why.

My sister it think it's because we're on the same IP. My little brother I'm not so sure because he doesn't spam and he was banned for spamming.

That's weird. But maybe your sister should try the automatic log in. For the first couple of weeks that I was a member, the site kept logging me off every time I switched the page, and more often than not would not let me log in. Then I checked the "remember me" box the when I logged in, and I have not had a problem since.

About the banning: are you using the same computer/email address as your brother? Multiple accounts from the same source result in automatic suspension. That happened to me, as there were others who somehow had accounts that traced back to my same source, even though I am the only one in my family on here. You should probably ask about that, since it might have been a mistake.

[azelismia]

Oh, I will. I haven't quite figured out the story yet though; it depends on how many we have. The current total seems on the low end, and I wish we had more to work with.

you could also just wait a few more days and see if more people naturally fall in.

[TheLastMohican]

you could also just wait a few more days and see if more people naturally fall in.

I've been considering that since yesterday; I'd like to have opinions from the players. Would you rather go ahead with just 11, or wait for more to join?

[mental drift]

probably more would be better, probably once you get started several will see the way the game is going and want to join, it seemed that happened from the post on the last game.
If you had a one or two day sample to go with, maybe that would help with participants. How would you do that? Dunno, maybe nobody can die the first couple of days or something-I don't know the game that well.

[Arcani]

probably more would be better, probably once you get started several will see the way the game is going and want to join, it seemed that happened from the post on the last game.
If you had a one or two day sample to go with, maybe that would help with participants. How would you do that? Dunno, maybe nobody can die the first couple of days or something-I don't know the game that well.

I don't think bringing people back in once they're dead is a good idea, it throws off the game (unless thats what you're going for of course). I think we should wait a little longer and see if more people want to join. How many do we have so far?

[TheLastMohican]

I don't think bringing people back in once they're dead is a good idea, it throws off the game (unless thats what you're going for of course). I think we should wait a little longer and see if more people want to join. How many do we have so far?

drift was suggesting having no deaths during the trial run. We have 11 so far.

The trial is something to consider. I'll think about how I might work that...

[ShaiGar]

Count me out, this is taking too long.

[TheLastMohican]

Count me out, this is taking too long.

What? Will you not be available later on?

[ShaiGar]

probably, but my interest needs to be captured and maintained... my p-ness is too strong.

[TheLastMohican]

probably, but my interest needs to be captured and maintained... my p-ness is too strong.

In that case, I'll just recapture your interest whenever I need it again.

[ShaiGar]

:( I just lost the game

[TheLastMohican]

:( I just lost the game

And so did we all. I had honestly completely forgotten about it...

[Marja]

:( I just lost the game

Lose number one for today. I usually lose it about five times a day.


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[Cuivienen]

I wouldn`t mind waiting a day or two longer, we should really try to start with at least 15 players or so, otherwise the game ends too quickly.

[antisocial one]

I will wait.
More players sounds like good idea.

[errrzarrr]

I am IN!

[TheLastMohican]

I am IN!

Great, we're back at 11! Now let's see if they delay can have a net positive effect.

[errrzarrr]

I am IN!

edit: sorry re-clicked the post botton

[TheLastMohican]

I am IN!

edit: sorry re-clicked the post botton

Too bad you can't count for two players...

[Chimerical]

blah.........I'm bored I hope this starts soon.

[errrzarrr]

lol !
btw, when this starts? I am almost leaving.

[TheLastMohican]

lol !
btw, when this starts? I am almost leaving.

Do you mean you will be out of town? I can grant a waiver for that so you can play anyway.

It will start...when it starts. I really want to get more people, because the game will be way too simple and boring with so few, unless we get really good participation from the players this time.
If it approaches the weekend, I'll just have to start it anyway.

So join, people! Join! Time is running short!

[Chimerical]

I think God's the killer, he's awfully quiet.

[Elfrun]

Ohh, this sounds fun. Count me in.

[Cuivienen]

There doesn`t seem to be much of a point in waiting longer, nothing`s happening. Can we start soon?

[TheLastMohican]

There doesn`t seem to be much of a point in waiting longer, nothing`s happening. Can we start soon?

Yes, I guess so. I will move on to the story. If anyone wants to join, do so right away!

[AgentofGaming]

There doesn`t seem to be much of a point in waiting longer, nothing`s happening. Can we start soon?

Agreed, anyone who would have joined has probably joined by now.
The only alternative would be to recruit.

[Cuivienen]

^^ that would be fun, if only the mods could grant us/TLM the right to randomly draft members :p.

[TheLastMohican]

We do have 14 players, so it should be okay. They are:

AgentofGaming
Antares
Antisocial one
Arcani
Azelismia
Chimerical
Cuivienen
Dreamer
Errrzarrr
Marja
Mental drift
ShaiGar
Trinity
Zirka

I will send each one a PM telling the role and other necessary information. Then I will come back here and post the storyline.





TheLastMohican added to this post, 44 minutes and 7 seconds later...

The MFPD (Mayhem Falls Police Department) has been having a lot of trouble lately with the local Mafia. Recently an undercover officer was found dead, riddled with bullets and hanging from a street lamp. On his back was a note:

We are among you.

The Detectives on the case took this to mean that the Department had been infiltrated by Mafia-employed moles. Since then they have been vigilantly investigating those in their ranks.

You are those Detectives. Three of you are moles (Murderers).
May the best team win. (And remember to vote.)

[Elfrun]

Department wide memorandum: The recent tragic and callous murder of our fellow officer must be investigated with swift punishment. We know there are moles amongst us so let there be no delay and no mercy.

[Cuivienen]

So we wait for the murderers to strike before we start voting?

[TheLastMohican]

So we wait for the murderers to strike before we start voting?

Oh yes, I should have clarified that. The first Day Phase has no voting. It does however have everything else. I emphasize that any player can question another player. During the first Day Phase you can work on your character (though I prefer using the real screen names to avoid confusion), write paragraphs, and try to get a good idea of who everyone else is. Socialize a bit. Then the killers will kill (Night Phase is Sunday at noon, American Central time), and during the next Day Phase you Detectives will have more clues to go on.

[Chimerical]

Well, there isn't much to go on right now. I guess it's best to keep everyone talking to get some kinda in tell on who might be a mole. It's pretty safe to assume that killers were chosen using something like random.org or something similar.

But even if the killer were selected for a reason it's still pretty random. 4 of the killers from last game are here now. Some would think that takes suspicion off of them, but at the same time it puts just as much suspicion on them, so they're equal with the rest of us.

Overall I simply have nothing to go off till I see more post and someone dies.

[azelismia]

I've been in the force for 10 years and in my time I've seen some hardboiled shenanagans, but the psychological evaluation tests they give the rookies must be in need of a make over, Because nothing like this has ever crossed our path before.

I can't believe we have been infiltrated.

Dreamer, how long have you been on the force? What is your take on the infiltration?
Errzarrr copy that question to you as well.

[Chimerical]

Shai Gar, if you were the killer who would you kill first and why?

[errrzarrr]

Today is my 1st day of work in this force. The infiltration is pretty worring for us and I think the murderer has at least a r in his/her name.

[Chimerical]

Today is my 1st day of work in this force. The infiltration is pretty worring for us and I think the murderer has at least a r in his/her name.

AgentofGaming
Antares
Antisocial one
Arcani
Azelismia
Chimerical
Cuivienen
Dreamer
Errrzarrr
Marja
Mental drift
ShaiGar
Trinity
Zirka

........
Errrzarrr, if you were the killer who would YOU kill and why?

[errrzarrr]

I have no reason to kill no one.

[AgentofGaming]

I'm curious as to why the FBI hasn't been called in. This may be a very isolated town and it'll take a couple weeks for them to arrive but interrogating each other sounds like another ugly foul-up of the bureaucracy. I suppose now that our lives are at stake there's no choice but really this is worse than bureaucratic bungle last year.

and you Errrzarrr who recruited you? It's highly suspicious that you get recruited the same day my colleague died. It seems criminals may be trying to slip another one right under our noses.

[Elfrun]

Today is my 1st day of work in this force. The infiltration is pretty worring for us and I think the murderer has at least a r in his/her name.

A veteren of the force myself, i just don't trust the rookies with all the recent activities, they're the most unreliable and corruptable. You're suspicien of those with 'r's is amusing, did you come to that deduction by drawing tarrot cards or do you have a more sound theory?

[mental drift]

Hey, first day on the force, they told me to bring the jelly doughnuts, said it might be a long one. It's a shame what happened, but Trinity I wouldn't worry too much about us rookies, I would be more suspicious of those who know how the place is run, you know comfortable enough with how to kill on the inside and get away with it.
Turns to the crowd, You know don't mind me, what do I know, but I'm guessing the veterans are the one's who we should watch out for. If I was going to do a hit, I would want to know exactly who in the department was where, so I knew I could get away with it, that requires someone deep into the department, hey but what do I know I'm a rookie.

[Arcani]

A veteren of the force myself, i just don't trust the rookies with all the recent activities, they're the most unreliable and corruptable. You're suspicien of those with 'r's is amusing, did you come to that deduction by drawing tarrot cards or do you have a more sound theory?

I am also a fairly new recruit to this police force as well, and perhaps it is not my place to comment, but I don't believe it's fair of you to call us all unreliable and corrupt. You were a rookie once as well, don't forget, it just so happens that this unfortunate business of mafia moles coincides with our inductance.

By declaring their presence to us, the moles must be very confident in their standing with the department. They must truly believe they can outwit us. This confidence will make them very dangerous and we must proceed carefully. Antares, what are you're thoughts on this?

[errrzarrr]

I'm curious as to why the FBI hasn't been called in. This may be a very isolated town and it'll take a couple weeks for them to arrive but interrogating each other sounds like another ugly foul-up of the bureaucracy. I suppose now that our lives are at stake there's no choice but really this is worse than bureaucratic bungle last year.

and you Errrzarrr who recruited you? It's highly suspicious that you get recruited the same day my colleague died. It seems criminals may be trying to slip another one right under our noses.

A veteren of the force myself, i just don't trust the rookies with all the recent activities, they're the most unreliable and corruptable. You're suspicien of those with 'r's is amusing, did you come to that deduction by drawing tarrot cards or do you have a more sound theory? Is not truth that us, rookies, are more suspicious, unreliable and corruptable than veterans. That's a good excuse to confuse the crowd (well the detectives). If you claim that, then: you are very rookie yourself or you are very veteran and wise and you are trying to confuse the detectives. Why would you do that? I think being the murderer itself or a related is a good reason. Tell me if I am wrong, AgentofGaming and Trinity. Now I am thinking about you and the rest of veterans.

what I said about the r's is a probabilistic deduction. Look at the list. There's 10 out of 14 names with a r in the nickname, and I know I am there myself. That's a 71.40% of probability of being correct.

Hey, first day on the force, they told me to bring the jelly doughnuts, said it might be a long one. It's a shame what happened, but Trinity I wouldn't worry too much about us rookies, I would be more suspicious of those who know how the place is run, you know comfortable enough with how to kill on the inside and get away with it.
Turns to the crowd, You know don't mind me, what do I know, but I'm guessing the veterans are the one's who we should watch out for. If I was going to do a hit, I would want to know exactly who in the department was where, so I knew I could get away with it, that requires someone deep into the department, hey but what do I know I'm a rookie. I agree with you. even if a rookie could do it, the veterans are more smooth at it. Infiltrating a criminal in a detective department is not a rookie's work.

I am also a fairly new recruit to this police force as well, and perhaps it is not my place to comment, but I don't believe it's fair of you to call us all unreliable and corrupt. You were a rookie once as well, don't forget, it just so happens that this unfortunate business of mafia moles coincides with our inductance.

By declaring their presence to us, the moles must be very confident in their standing with the department. They must truly believe they can outwit us. This confidence will make them very dangerous and we must proceed carefully. Antares, what are you're thoughts on this? Thanks for talking for me Arcani, I apreciate it; and now, as you say, lets proceed carefully.

...azelismia tell me your thoughts about all of this.

[azelismia]

Is not truth that us, rookies, are more suspicious, unreliable and corruptable than veterans. That's a good excuse to confuse the crowd (well the detectives). If you claim that, then: you are very rookie yourself or you are very veteran and wise and you are trying to confuse the detectives. Why would you do that? I think being the murderer itself or a related is a good reason. Tell me if I am wrong, AgentofGaming and Trinity. Now I am thinking about you and the rest of veterans.

what I said about the r's is a probabilistic deduction. Look at the list. There's 10 out of 14 names with a r in the nickname, and I know I am there myself. That's a 71.40% of probability of being correct.

I agree with you. even if a rookie could do it, the veterans are more smooth at it. Infiltrating a criminal in a detective department is not a rookie's work.

Thanks for talking for me Arcani, I apreciate it; and now, as you say, lets proceed carefully.

...azelismia tell me your thoughts about all of this.


1. my name does not have an R in it. 2. I thought I had already stated my thoughts on all of this? are you specifically referring to rookies vs vets? I wouldn't devote my life to a cause only to fink out on it for the mafia. Those bastards killed my only family when I was 3 years old. I witnessed my mother and father screaming on the floor begging for mercy. The damn bastards hadn't even got the house right. there was a note left on the floor with an address, it was our address but with a Sw. instead of the N. that it actually was. No, I joined the force to take out the mafia. Especially J. corroleti... he has my name written on his ass.. he just doesn't know it yet.

[ShaiGar]

Shai Gar, if you were the killer who would you kill first and why?
That bastard who keeps hogging all the Doughnuts. I've not discovered who he is yet... but I will.

[mental drift]

That bastard who keeps hogging all the Doughnuts. I've not discovered who he is yet... but I will.

Why were you looking at my fat belly when you said that S, I bought the doughnuts, even if I did eat them. I have a question for you anyways ShaiGar.
It's my first day on the force, and I have already heard rumors that you have a desire for power and a desire to be feared, or at least a roomate of yours has said you mentioned similar comments on your computer....only rumors, second hand information at best.
I would think that the mole is enjoying all of the panic that is ensuing over his presence. Do you enjoy the badge because of the power it gives a person, or do you wear it because of a moral obligation to the truth it preserves? What is your views on morality, personal guide, or absent thought? What brings you to this job anyways ShaiGar, why did you join? Why are you still here?

[ShaiGar]

Why were you looking at my fat belly when you said that S? Because I have my suspicions.

It's my first day on the force, and I have already heard rumors that you have a desire for power and a desire to be feared, or at least a roomate of yours has said you mentioned similar comments on your computer....only rumors, second hand information at best.
Then have it first hand. I want power and to be feared. I want everyone to fear me. I shall be leaving the police force in a few years after I make captain so that I can run for Politics with credibility for the SJs

Do you enjoy the badge because of the power it gives a person?
No, I hide my badge in my pocket to ensure that I'm treated no differently than anyone else. The power doesn't come from the badge, but from the key to the handcuffs that symbolises our ability to take away freedom from those who have caused our society problems.

Similarly the gun is nothing but a means of self defence, it's not a symbol of power except in the most immature minds of fellow officers. I question your phrasing of the question.


Do you wear it because of a moral obligation to the truth it preserves?
No. There is no moral oblication to be truthful in this job. We would lose the ability to capture criminals if we were honest in our job. I wear this badge inside my coat to remind me that I need to be better than everyone else when I wear it. The honour of the badge is something that needs constant reflection.

What is your views on morality?
personal guide,
absent thought?My views are that Malum In Se crimes are the only crimes that need enforcing, Malum Prohibitum crimes are useful in capturing In Se criminals that we cannot otherwise hold, until we have proof of In Se. What do you mean by absent thought?

My Personal Guide on morality comes from the ancient book "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus the Wise.

What brings you to this job anyways ShaiGar?
The constant fight against the evil inside me brought me to this job. I enjoy striving to be something better, and I love helping others retrieve their property. It is why I joined Robbery and Grand Larceny.

Why did you join?
I believe I just asked that.

Why are you still here?
In brightest day, in blackest night,
No evil shall escape my sight
Let those who worship evil's might,
Beware my power...Green Lantern's light!
I will not run from the danger of having one of my colleagues being a Mafia Mole.



Trinity, I ask you these questions.

Do you enjoy the badge because of the power it gives a person? Do you wear it because of a moral obligation to the truth it preserves?What is your views on morality?

* personal guide,
* absent thought?

What brings you to this job anyways?Why are you still here?Where were you when our colleague was murdered, who can back up your whereabouts?

[errrzarrr]

1. my name does not have an R in it. 2. I thought I had already stated my thoughts on all of this? are you specifically referring to rookies vs vets? I wouldn't devote my life to a cause only to fink out on it for the mafia. Those bastards killed my only family when I was 3 years old. I witnessed my mother and father screaming on the floor begging for mercy. The damn bastards hadn't even got the house right. there was a note left on the floor with an address, it was our address but with a Sw. instead of the N. that it actually was. No, I joined the force to take out the mafia. Especially J. corroleti... he has my name written on his ass.. he just doesn't know it yet.

Yes, about what I said about rookies and vets and supposed veteran detectives implying the rookies to get the crowd confused. Maybe I am not correct 100%; but, given the little information we have, is a good point to start with.

And I trust you. I am sure you are a reliable detective.

[Chimerical]

I have no reason to kill no one.
.........So you have a reason to kill everyone, or at least one person. But you try to hide it. A little suspicious.

1. my name does not have an R in it. 2. I thought I had already stated my thoughts on all of this? are you specifically referring to rookies vs vets? I wouldn't devote my life to a cause only to fink out on it for the mafia. Those bastards killed my only family when I was 3 years old. I witnessed my mother and father screaming on the floor begging for mercy. The damn bastards hadn't even got the house right. there was a note left on the floor with an address, it was our address but with a Sw. instead of the N. that it actually was. No, I joined the force to take out the mafia. Especially J. corroleti... he has my name written on his ass.. he just doesn't know it yet.
The whole R thing is random as all hell and isn't a significant source to go off. It's just guessing, that's all. Though the odds are in the 70's, the letter was chosen randomly. If I cared I could pull up the odds of randomly choosing any of the 26 letters of the alphabet, but it would be rather insignificant because it's JUST random guessing. Were're here to solve crimes logically, not guess and go off how we feel about them. And if your name is written on his ass does that mean you have to kiss it?

That bastard who keeps hogging all the Doughnuts. I've not discovered who he is yet... but I will.
Honest answer. But I've accomplished nothing. If doughnut hog dies the killers could simply be trying to set you up or you could be killing for the hell of it. If he doesn't die the killers could be be killing someone of a higher interest, or you could be trying to avoid suspicion. Maybe I can squeeze something out of this....hmm...I came up with something but if I say it here the killers can use it to set you up or if you're the killer you could use it to avoid suspicion. So I'll share it after the night.

Anyone is free to IM me, seive eleven, on aim. if you care to speak in private about anything.

Yes, about what I said about rookies and vets and supposed veteran detectives implying the rookies to get the crowd confused. Maybe I am not correct 100%; but, given the little information we have, is a good point to start with.

And I trust you. I am sure you are a reliable detective.

I'm starting to suspect you and Azelismia as killers. Especially you errrzarrr. And so I cast my vote.

[errrzarrr]

oh my, somebody is hardly trying to ge the crowd in the wrong direction.

edit: at least give your reasons why you are doing that?

[Chimerical]

Yes, about what I said about rookies and vets and supposed veteran detectives implying the rookies to get the crowd confused. Maybe I am not correct 100%; but, given the little information we have, is a good point to start with.

And I trust you. I am sure you are a reliable detective.
This is directed at Azelismia. Reason to believe you had some kind of a connection before the game and you're trying to cover it up to avoid suspicion.


I've been in the force for 10 years and in my time I've seen some hardboiled shenanagans, but the psychological evaluation tests they give the rookies must be in need of a make over, Because nothing like this has ever crossed our path before.

I can't believe we have been infiltrated.

Dreamer, how long have you been on the force? What is your take on the infiltration?
Errzarrr copy that question to you as well.

Today is my 1st day of work in this force. The infiltration is pretty worring for us and I think the murderer has at least a r in his/her name.
The trust was gained shortly after this. You're an INTJ but there's no logical reason for you to jump on and believe A, unless there was a prior connection. Makes me think your connected even more, or at least you're a killer desperately trying to look as if you're not.

I have no reason to kill no one.
I don't know if this was a subversive intentional message or not. If you're going by the double negative rule you're saying you do have reason to kill someone but you're not saying who. As if you don't want people to think you're the killer when someone dies.

If you're going by the more you say no, the more you mean it slang rule, than you're still avoiding the question to appear as if you are innocent. Shai Gar straight up answered the question with a joke, that shows me he has nothing to hide.


oh my, somebody is hardly trying to ge the crowd in the wrong direction.

edit: at least give your reasons why you are doing that?

So I think you and A are Connected. I'm pretty sure I wont die simply because I said you two were connected. If you ARE the killers it wouldn't be of interest to kill me now because it would prove that you are the killers or at least put a lot of suspicion on you.

If someone else is the killer and it would be of interest to keep me alive while I point a finger in the wrong direction, though this is an option I don't think it is correct.

I'm not dead set that you're a killer, but I suspect you above everyone else. You've acted the most suspicious. What I'm 70% sure of is that you and A had a prior connection. You could be detective partners or partners in crime. I'm pretty sure the two of you are somehow connected.

[azelismia]

This is directed at Azelismia. Reason to believe you had some kind of a connection before the game and you're trying to cover it up to avoid suspicion.





The trust was gained shortly after this. You're an INTJ but there's no logical reason for you to jump on and believe A, unless there was a prior connection. Makes me think your connected even more, or at least you're a killer desperately trying to look as if you're not.


I don't know if this was a subversive intentional message or not. If you're going by the double negative rule you're saying you do have reason to kill someone but you're not saying who. As if you don't want people to think you're the killer when someone dies.

If you're going by the more you say no, the more you mean it slang rule, than you're still avoiding the question to appear as if you are innocent. Shai Gar straight up answered the question with a joke, that shows me he has nothing to hide.




So I think you and A are Connected. I'm pretty sure I wont die simply because I said you two were connected. If you ARE the killers it wouldn't be of interest to kill me now because it would prove that you are the killers or at least put a lot of suspicion on you.

If someone else is the killer and it would be of interest to keep me alive while I point a finger in the wrong direction, though this is an option I don't think it is correct.

I'm not dead set that you're a killer, but I suspect you above everyone else. You've acted the most suspicious. What I'm 70% sure of is that you and A had a prior connection. You could be detective partners or partners in crime. I'm pretty sure the two of you are somehow connected.


1.I know the r thing was random, I was being flippant.
2. there is no voting until the first night faze and someone has died.
3. There is no connection between me and errzarrr. as of this moment You, chimerical and Errzarr are my top two suspects. Chimerical especially. Me doth think he protesteth too much.

[Antares]

I'm quite put out that my fellow detective and competent partner was killed, and might I mention that the perpetrators were quite stupid leaving messages everywhere?

My Personal Guide on morality comes from the ancient book "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus the Wise.

Mark Antony was a ruthless, ambtious politician as you must know, since you based your morality off his work. He also blew everything for a woman. Nice choice of guidance.

[Chimerical]

1.I know the r thing was random, I was being flippant.
2. there is no voting until the first night faze and someone has died.
3. There is no connection between me and errzarrr. as of this moment You, chimerical and Errzarr are my top two suspects. Chimerical especially. Me doth think he protesteth too much.

1. Yeah, I know. I was bored and felt like dragging it on.
2. As I recall you simply don't HAVE to vote the first time, but I don't remember anything being said about not being able to vote. Why are you concerned about my vote if there is no connection?
3. I'm looking out for my own well being as well as trying to catch the killer. See if Errrzarrr is the killer I'll be alive after the night is over. Why would he kill me? It would put a giant spotlight on him as a killer. Those who remain silent will die at random, speak or be killed. If Errrzarrr dies, chances are I might be the killer. If neither of us are killers the killers have the opportunity to silently kill off everyone else while the spotlight is on the two of us. They'll wait till we're voted off and wont bother killing us.

I see this position more to my advantage than playing the odds of being randomly picked off at night.

If you were connected, either as a killer or two paired detectives of some sort I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want it public knowledge and you'd deny it at all costs. If there's an alliance it's of no value when everyone knows about it in a game based on secrecy. So, your denial means nothing to me. You could be saying that to convince the others, but I still think there's a high chance something is there.

I highly suspect you two are working together to some degree and If I can't vote this round I'll vote for errrzarrr next round. If errrzarrr is alive next round that will arise suspicion even more.

[antisocial one]

I am new here as many others but I am smart enought to connect some dots and have guts to say what I think.

Chimerical you are veteran and I cant belive that you are that stupid.
I think that you have created very large mistake whit all of this.
Now if killers kill you first er and az will be primarily suspects for the rest of the case.
That means that killers will surely do it because they will whant to create split in our department at the very begining of this case.
By this I mean:you are dead because you created excelent target out of yourself plus and another two are suspects. That means 3 detectives are screwed on the very start.
And that means: think before you say something or we will kill each other in only one week and we have huge disadvantage so I suggest less emotions about all tragedys in last couple of day before it is too late.

[Marja]

I think it's likely that some of the moles are veterans and some are rookies. That would give us nothing to go on until the killings start. I still do not trust anyone.

So are there any chocolate doughnuts?

[Elfrun]

*barges into the room asserting her authority in no uncertain terms* Where the hell are my jelly doughnuts Mental! Useless, absolutely useless. *shakes head in defeat and pulls Arcani aside* i've been thinking about your theory on the note and believe you have a valid point, maybe you rookies aren't so suspicious. You're not off my suspect list but maybe you're ok. *slaps Arc on the back and returns to the centre of the squad room glancing at Grrr thinking, something's not quite right, turns to Shai screaming* Shai, who the hell do you think you are? Of course i like power, why else would i be the chief of police? You have some gaul asking me all those questions. I'm here to do a job and put the filth behind bars so the good people of this world can sleep soundly at night. *storms into office slamming the door*

[ShaiGar]

Mark Antony was a ruthless, ambtious politician as you must know, since you based your morality off his work. He also blew everything for a woman. Nice choice of guidance.


Was that an attempt at complete and utter stupidity? You do not pull it off very well youngling. You're too intelligent.

I was referring to the last of the Good Emperors. Mark Antony is not Marcus Aurelius. I am fairly well assured that you know this. However, HOW was Antony not a good role model? He did some good things such as abolishing Caesars dictatorship and installed an infanticidal king. He also swiftly turned the tide of public opinion against Caesars assassins. I'd blow everything for the right woman... I am fairly confidant that no matter what I destroyed for the right woman, I could rebuild much easier with her aid. Especially if she's the richest woman on earth as Cleo was.



In case anybody does not know Meditations it is an excellent piece of reflective writings on how to rule properly written by one of the most important NFs in history.

Marcus Aurelius' work Meditations (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), written on campaign between 170 and 180, is still revered as a literary monument to a government of service and duty and has been praised for its "exquisite accent and its infinite tenderness."





ShaiGar added to this post, 3 minutes and 37 seconds later...

*barges into the room asserting her authority in no uncertain terms* Where the hell are my jelly doughnuts Mental! Useless, absolutely useless. *shakes head in defeat and pulls Arcani aside* i've been thinking about your theory on the note and believe you have a valid point, maybe you rookies aren't so suspicious. You're not off my suspect list but maybe you're ok. *slaps Arc on the back and returns to the centre of the squad room glancing at Grrr thinking, something's not quite right, turns to Shai screaming* Shai, who the hell do you think you are? Of course i like power, why else would i be the chief of police? You have some gaul asking me all those questions. I'm here to do a job and put the filth behind bars so the good people of this world can sleep soundly at night. *storms into office slamming the door*
Gaul was a celtic nation, the ultimate predecessor of France.
Gall was the word you were after.

I'm poisoning the doughnuts. I'm swallowing the antidote.

[Elfrun]

:laugh: oops. Don't trust them Gaul's either!

[ShaiGar]

Damn right, Obelix is liable to punch your face in if you wear roman armour

[RoyalINTJ]

is there still room? i wanna play... havent played it online tho but i remember like 5-8 years ago i was playing Mafia with friends.. its very fun and challenging... i like it... so sign me in!!

fuck you already started it... just found out about this.... gl

[TheLastMohican]

RoyalINTJ, You are now in the game. I sent you a PM. You got in just in time, since the first Day Phase has no voting.


To everybody else: I just want to congratulate you on how this game is progressing. The participation is great! Keep it up; it's getting very interesting already.

[ShaiGar]

Can you reroll the dice a few more times until I get to be a mafia mole? I want the ability to kill anyone who dares take my Cinnamon Buns... They can have the rest.

[TheLastMohican]

Can you reroll the dice a few more times until I get to be a mafia mole? I want the ability to kill anyone who dares take my Cinnamon Buns... They can have the rest.

No rerolls; better luck next time. ;)

[ShaiGar]

I assume though that as Detectives we're gun toting ones?

Can we use these guns?

[TheLastMohican]

I assume though that as Detectives we're gun toting ones?

Can we use these guns?

The only way Detectives can get rid of Murderers is by voting.

[ShaiGar]

I don't care about the murderers... I have a need to serve and protect... the doughnuts.

[TheLastMohican]

I don't care about the murderers... I have a need to serve and protect... the doughnuts.

Krispy Kreme, by any chance?

[ShaiGar]

The only way Detectives can get rid of Murderers is by voting.

Reality TV - The Legal Circuit.

That'd rock. a line of detectives voting off the criminals. the criminals get guns. Kinda like heads down thumbs up.

[TheLastMohican]

Was that an attempt at complete and utter stupidity? You do not pull it off very well youngling. You're too intelligent.


She would make a horrible actress, no? :laugh:

[ShaiGar]

yup.

[RoyalINTJ]

So whats the fuss all about? Did anybody got killed or something? i enter the room with a smile on my face... ohhh Bobby eh? well thats just bad luck... tho i never did like him... always found him kinda of wierd... anyway i just got back from vacation got to check out whats been going on... if you need me i ll be in my so called "office" i say as i get to my table...

[errrzarrr]

could we get more information about the murdeded, TheLastMohican? It would be very useful and enlightening.

*errrzarrr goes out to the crime scene to get information about the crime scene itself and the killed

[TheLastMohican]

could we get more information about the murdeder, TheLastMohican? It would be very useful and enlightening.

Let's see...there are three of them, and they are all from the following list:

AgentofGaming
Antares
Antisocial one
Arcani
Azelismia
Chimerical
Cuivienen
Dreamer
Errrzarrr
Marja
Mental drift
RoyalINTJ
ShaiGar
Trinity
Zirka

[errrzarrr]

nope, the murdered. It was a typo. My bad...





errrzarrr added to this post, 4 minutes and 23 seconds later...

I have no reason to kill no one.

i meant: I don't have a reason to kill nobody. sorry for the double negation collegues.

to chimerical:
Chimerical are you a veteran or a noob here? tell us your background and time working here.

Also, why are you so hasty at the very start of the game? things are dark and in blur still. I mean, (maybe because i am new) there's not even a solid point to star with.
why are you so hasty on making conclutions and even voting!? There's time to gather more information and make better conclutions, not time to vote still.

[Chimerical]

Let's see...there are three of them, and they are all from the following list:

AgentofGaming
Antares
Antisocial one
Arcani
Azelismia
Chimerical
Cuivienen
Dreamer
Errrzarrr
Marja
Mental drift
RoyalINTJ
ShaiGar
Trinity
Zirka
Okay, the number of killers hasn't changed. Check.
Then we have this

RoyalINTJ, You are now in the game. I sent you a PM. You got in just in time, since the first Day Phase has no voting.


To everybody else: I just want to congratulate you on how this game is progressing. The participation is great! Keep it up; it's getting very interesting already.
Yeah, so....hmm...if RoyalINTJ dies I wont be too shocked about it. But at least I know I can trust that he's not a killer. Rintj to me is in no way shape or form a suspect.


nope, the murdered. It was a typo. My bad...





errrzarrr added to this post, 4 minutes and 23 seconds later...



i meant: I don't have a reason to kill nobody. sorry for the double negation collegues.

"I don't[1] have a reason to kill nobody[2]."
You subversive litttle bastard. I'm on to your tricks.

Can you reroll the dice a few more times until I get to be a mafia mole? I want the ability to kill anyone who dares take my Cinnamon Buns... They can have the rest.
No rerolls; better luck next time. ;)

So....ShaiGar isn't much of a suspect anymore. Or is the Mod just joking with him??? Anyway ShaiGar is thrown off my list of suspects.

I still suspect errrzarrr the most.

[TheLastMohican]

nope, the murdered. It was a typo. My bad...


Ah. He had been on the force for 13 years, and had been undercover in the Mafia for two months. He was seized from his apartment before being murdered, but no fingerprints were found. All of the Detectives knew of his activities, and he had no partner.





TheLastMohican added to this post, 5 minutes and 13 seconds later...

Yeah, so....hmm...if RoyalINTJ dies I wont be too shocked about it. But at least I know I can trust that he's not a killer. Rintj to me is in no way shape or form a suspect.

Yes, that is a weakness. Sorry, Royal, but you were too late to remain mysterious.

So....ShaiGar isn't much of a suspect anymore. Or is the Mod just joking with him???
;);););)

That's all I will say...

[Chimerical]

I would like to point out that I do hand modeling in my spare time. My contract says I'm not aloud to were gloves because it cuts off the air supply to my precious hands.
*shows off his beautiful hands*
Aren't they so marvelous.

[TheLastMohican]

I would like to point out that I do hand modeling in my spare time. My contract says I'm not aloud to were gloves because it cuts off the air supply to my precious hands.
*shows off his beautiful hands*
Aren't they so marvelous.

(Don't get any blood on them.)

:laugh:

[errrzarrr]

oh... working as undercovered in the Mafia!. That's a good reason for those bastards get him out of the way.

@chimerical:
"Yeah, so....hmm...if RoyalINTJ dies I wont be too shocked about it. But at least I know I can trust that he's not a killer. Rintj to me is in no way shape or form a suspect."
I dont see any logical reason he could get killed. Why should you be shocked about it or not? There's simple no reason for the moles to kill him or not. He's is pretty a neutral element right now. A guy that just joined and haven't said nothing at all still.

[Chimerical]

oh... working as undercovered in the Mafia!. That's a good reason for those bastards get him out of the way.

@chimerical:
"Yeah, so....hmm...if RoyalINTJ dies I wont be too shocked about it. But at least I know I can trust that he's not a killer. Rintj to me is in no way shape or form a suspect."
I dont see any logical reason he could get killed. Why should you be shocked about it or not? There's simple no reason for the moles to kill him or not. He's is pretty a neutral element right now. A guy that just joined and haven't said nothing at all still.

Why do I think he's going to get killed? hmm...? Because he was just added. The number of killers is still 3 as it was when the game started. I'm pretty sure he's not a killer, and it's common knowledge that he's not a killer.

If the killers kill him it's not at all suspicious because everyone knows he's NOT a killer. It's obvious. A reason a killer would kill him is because he's neutral. If I were a killer I'd've killed him off already before he starts pointing the finger in the right direction. If he's kept alive it means that he's pointing in the wrong direction AND they had someone better to killer.

Also if he's kept alive. Then at the point when/if he changes his mind and points somewhere else he might die for confusion's sake as well. Let's say you aren't the killer. And RINTJ says you are. Then the real killer kills him to make it look like you wanted him dead.

Overall because of how he was added he's become the killers puppet. What he says means nothing to me. The only power he has by voting.

After thinking about all this, it's safe to assume the killers would keep him alive until the number of people is decreased too much. At the point we're at now we've made no real progress with this addition but later on if there are only 7 of us and one is R, then the detectives have the advantage. So I don't think he'll survive past that point.

So it seems as if he'll die pretty soon.

[errrzarrr]

Ok you answered the questions about royal and I must say that you have very good reasoning and conclutions. But you skipped what I asked first and most important questions:

nope, the murdered. It was a typo. My bad...


meant: I don't have a reason to kill nobody. sorry for the double negation collegues.

to chimerical:
Chimerical are you a veteran or a noob here? tell us your background and time working here.

Also, why are you so hasty at the very start of the game? things are dark and in blur still. I mean, (maybe because i am new) there's not even a solid point to star with.
why are you so hasty on making conclutions and even voting!? There's time to gather more information and make better conclutions, not time to vote still.

[RoyalINTJ]

I am new here as many others but I am smart enought to connect some dots and have guts to say what I think.

Chimerical you are veteran and I cant belive that you are that stupid.
I think that you have created very large mistake whit all of this.
Now if killers kill you first er and az will be primarily suspects for the rest of the case.
That means that killers will surely do it because they will whant to create split in our department at the very begining of this case.
By this I mean:you are dead because you created excelent target out of yourself plus and another two are suspects. That means 3 detectives are screwed on the very start.
And that means: think before you say something or we will kill each other in only one week and we have huge disadvantage so I suggest less emotions about all tragedys in last couple of day before it is too late.

I think antisocial one explained it very clear what is going to happen when night phase occurs... tho i wasnt happy about him saying out loud this situation hoping mafia wouldnt see this chance you served them... but here is the thing... if you aint going to get killed Chimerical... well then its just plain and simple you are one of the mafia... and that being said i am pretty sure you are....
This your attempt of setting me up for the bullet is a clear attempt to mislead everyone else away from you....
Truth is... when the night hits if you aint dead you ll be on the vote and executed... you made too many enemies already to stay alive...

[Arcani]

Why do I think he's going to get killed? hmm...? Because he was just added. The number of killers is still 3 as it was when the game started. I'm pretty sure he's not a killer, and it's common knowledge that he's not a killer.

If the killers kill him it's not at all suspicious because everyone knows he's NOT a killer. It's obvious. A reason a killer would kill him is because he's neutral. If I were a killer I'd've killed him off already before he starts pointing the finger in the right direction. If he's kept alive it means that he's pointing in the wrong direction AND they had someone better to killer.

Also if he's kept alive. Then at the point when/if he changes his mind and points somewhere else he might die for confusion's sake as well. Let's say you aren't the killer. And RINTJ says you are. Then the real killer kills him to make it look like you wanted him dead.

Overall because of how he was added he's become the killers puppet. What he says means nothing to me. The only power he has by voting.

After thinking about all this, it's safe to assume the killers would keep him alive until the number of people is decreased too much. At the point we're at now we've made no real progress with this addition but later on if there are only 7 of us and one is R, then the detectives have the advantage. So I don't think he'll survive past that point.

So it seems as if he'll die pretty soon.

Chimerical, I am beginning to question your loyalty to this department. While I agree with your reasoning regarding RoyalINTJ I question your motive for dragging it out into the light. Even if it were common knowledge (and indeed it is a simple deduction) there is no reason to bring it out into the open when there are traitors among us! You have essentially just laid the groundwork for the moles, that combined with your... abrasive comments to this point makes me seriously doubt your loyalty.

As for errrzarrr, you are also near the top of my list (those double negatives are pretty damning), but I am willing to believe they are nothing more than grammatical errors. I have trouble believing you would purposely imply you want to kill someone unless you are playing scapegoat to try and get another mole in better standing (i.e. Chimerical)...

[RoyalINTJ]

tell you what i would do if i were mafia... i would start with killing one of their own... which would be Chimerical... its seems that he is inexperienced in situations where disguise is a must.... setting the whole mafia operation on a danger of failure... i been working on streets long enough back in the days to know how criminal mind works...
If it happens that you are not one of the mafia... well then you just made a foolish rookie mistake and you gonna end up paying for it with your life when you gonna get executed... too bad your career didnt manage to see its heights...

[antisocial one]

I think antisocial one explained it very clear what is going to happen when night phase occurs... tho i wasnt happy about him saying out loud this situation hoping mafia wouldnt see this chance you served them... but here is the thing... if you aint going to get killed Chimerical... well then its just plain and simple you are one of the mafia... and that being said i am pretty sure you are....
This your attempt of setting me up for the bullet is a clear attempt to mislead everyone else away from you....
Truth is... when the night hits if you aint dead you ll be on the vote and executed... you made too many enemies already to stay alive...

I am waiting this post for hours. I am new here and it is said that mafia works together but detactives dont really. This way I whanted to make sure that all new detactives realise our situation because mafia already does.(or I am getting this game totally wrong).
Please where did I said you should be killed please show me that line.

[errrzarrr]

I think antisocial one explained it very clear what is going to happen when night phase occurs... tho i wasnt happy about him saying out loud this situation hoping mafia wouldnt see this chance you served them... but here is the thing... if you aint going to get killed Chimerical... well then its just plain and simple you are one of the mafia... and that being said i am pretty sure you are....
This your attempt of setting me up for the bullet is a clear attempt to mislead everyone else away from you....
Truth is... when the night hits if you aint dead you ll be on the vote and executed... you made too many enemies already to stay alive...

Chimerical, I am beginning to question your loyalty to this department. While I agree with your reasoning regarding RoyalINTJ I question your motive for dragging it out into the light. Even if it were common knowledge (and indeed it is a simple deduction) there is no reason to bring it out into the open when there are traitors among us! You have essentially just laid the groundwork for the moles, that combined with your... abrasive comments to this point makes me seriously doubt your loyalty.

As for errrzarrr, you are also near the top of my list (those double negatives are pretty damning), but I am willing to believe they are nothing more than grammatical errors. I have trouble believing you would purposely imply you want to kill someone unless you are playing scapegoat to try and get another mole in better standing (i.e. Chimerical)...

I agree with antisocial one, RoyalINTJ and Arcani. Chemirical is very suspicious for me right now. Is like 4 votes against 1. I hope we are not sending to prison a cop.

To Arcani:
As I said before, It was a Grammatical error. I wasn't trying to doble negate the sentece or get people confused. English is a Foreign language for me.

You can be sure I am more in the mole's target than in the cops target. The Scapegoat theory looks very logical, but it's false. I am more a sacrified for the sake of the investigation and the rest of the good cops, right now. That's because I am a Rookie that played the game bad at the very first (Is my 1st time on this).

[RoyalINTJ]

Well there is a slim chance mafia wouldnt notice it... its a lot easier to miss something in whole this mess when its not pointed to you out... as soon as i red Chimerical post i realized that would be the best thing for mafia to do.... so obviously i hoped they wouldnt figure it out... but hey its an mafia game full of INTJ... i guess they would of figured it out... as does other detectives... anyway it doesnt matter now really...

[Chimerical]

nope, the murdered. It was a typo. My bad...





errrzarrr added to this post, 4 minutes and 23 seconds later...



i meant: I don't have a reason to kill nobody. sorry for the double negation collegues.

to chimerical:
Chimerical are you a veteran or a noob here? tell us your background and time working here.

Also, why are you so hasty at the very start of the game? things are dark and in blur still. I mean, (maybe because i am new) there's not even a solid point to star with.
why are you so hasty on making conclutions and even voting!? There's time to gather more information and make better conclutions, not time to vote still.
If you look closely at the bottom of the original post you'll notice it says "
Last edited by errrzarrr : Today at 07:38 PM" When I quoted you your questions weren't there, just you posting a double negative. Then you edited your post afterwards. If it was to incriminate me it's not working. If it was just a error than remember to just create a new post after someone else posts. Maybe you were editing it as I was posting. Who knows.

Eitherway, it's evident I didn't see your question because you edited you post.

Ok you answered the questions about royal and I must say that you have very good reasoning and conclutions. But you skipped what I asked first and most important questions:
See the above. There's a reason I skipped it.

Vet or noob. Noob is such a retarded and demeaning term that serves no purpose other than to make yourself feel better because you're not the new guy anymore. It's the type of thing frat boys and jocks do to the new guys on the team or in the fraternity. Using the word is hyper-conforming a bit.

My position on the force is a freelance detective. When there are unsolved cases I like to try and put together all the pieces. Everything else just isn't as much fun. So I'm not even on the force. But I would like to get to the bottom of this. I want to know how the killer kills, why he's killing, etc.. But sadly blood is going to have to be shed before we can catch this guy. Sacrifices will have to be made. Our job as detectives is to reduce the amount loss that will occur by catching the killers as quickly as possible.

I think antisocial one explained it very clear what is going to happen when night phase occurs... tho i wasnt happy about him saying out loud this situation hoping mafia wouldnt see this chance you served them... but here is the thing... if you aint going to get killed Chimerical... well then its just plain and simple you are one of the mafia... and that being said i am pretty sure you are....
This your attempt of setting me up for the bullet is a clear attempt to mislead everyone else away from you....
Truth is... when the night hits if you aint dead you ll be on the vote and executed... you made too many enemies already to stay alive...

At this point it's almost certain I wont die. Thanks a lot R. You've helped save my ass. The killer isn't going to kill you, nor me, because if the two of us are left alive you'll point the finger at me, no one will point at you, and they wont have to kill me because I'll be voted off. You've preserved my existence a little longer by pointed the spotlight on me.

Chimerical, I am beginning to question your loyalty to this department. While I agree with your reasoning regarding RoyalINTJ I question your motive for dragging it out into the light. Even if it were common knowledge (and indeed it is a simple deduction) there is no reason to bring it out into the open when there are traitors among us! You have essentially just laid the groundwork for the moles, that combined with your... abrasive comments to this point makes me seriously doubt your loyalty.

As for errrzarrr, you are also near the top of my list (those double negatives are pretty damning), but I am willing to believe they are nothing more than grammatical errors. I have trouble believing you would purposely imply you want to kill someone unless you are playing scapegoat to try and get another mole in better standing (i.e. Chimerical)...

Well, I'm saying an awful lot. The killers can read all of this, so I'll send you a PM.

[antisocial one]

RINTJ please show me were I said you should be killed.

[RoyalINTJ]

You can talk all you like Chimerical but you aint fooling anyone... either you are unprofessional cop or mafia... but you are going down.... even if you are a cop it will be a lot easier to work without you on the team.... if it would be up to me i would put you behind bars so i wouldnt have to listen to you... its win/win situation really...





RoyalINTJ added to this post, 3 minutes and 24 seconds later...

RINTJ please show me were I said you should be killed.

antisocial one ... please show me where i said that you said that you said... lol
does that make any sense... :D

[ShaiGar]

You can talk all you like Chimerical but you aint fooling anyone... either you are unprofessional cop or mafia... but you are going down.... even if you are a cop it will be a lot easier to work without you on the team.... if it would be up to me i would put you behind bars so i wouldnt have to listen to you... its win/win situation really...





RoyalINTJ added to this post, 3 minutes and 24 seconds later...



antisocial one ... please show me where i said that you said that you said... lol
does that make any sense... :D
and if chimerical is not a mafia mole?

[RoyalINTJ]

Like i said... win/win situation... if he is a cop then he is doing a great job of confusing all cops...

[Chimerical]

RINTJ please show me were I said you should be killed.

Yeah, I kinda missed that part too. When did Anti say you should be killed?

You can talk all you like Chimerical but you aint fooling anyone... either you are unprofessional cop or mafia... but you are going down.... even if you are a cop it will be a lot easier to work without you on the team.... if it would be up to me i would put you behind bars so i wouldnt have to listen to you... its win/win situation really...





RoyalINTJ added to this post, 3 minutes and 24 seconds later...



antisocial one ... please show me where i said that you said that you said... lol
does that make any sense... :D

God, I hope they kill you off soon. Since everyone knows you're a cop you're just getting in the way. If I fooled you maybe I fooled the mafia too. Just because my method is different than yours doesn't make it stupid. I'm trying to pry information out of them. One of the reason's I need you alive, even if you are beginning to irritate me.

If you stay alive, you're a dead weight to them. But when you eventually die, whoever you were targeting is someone the killers were trying to set up obviously.

I have more to my plan than this....but it wouldn't make sense to leave it out in the open for the mafia to see.

[errrzarrr]

antisocial one I guess Royal didnt said that.

ShaiGar. If we discover with 100% of certainty that Chimerical is not a Mafia mole (If you look you will note he is very suspicious right now) you would be the most suspicious at the moment.

...And that puts antisocial, Royal, Arcani, me and the Chimerical itself in target of the moles.

[RoyalINTJ]

God, I hope they kill you off soon. Since everyone knows you're a cop you're just getting in the way. If I fooled you maybe I fooled the mafia too. Just because my method is different than yours doesn't make it stupid. I'm trying to pry information out of them. One of the reason's I need you alive, even if you are beginning to irritate me.

If you stay alive, you're a dead weight to them. But when you eventually die, whoever you were targeting is someone the killers were trying to set up obviously.

I have more to my plan than this....but it wouldn't make sense to leave it out in the open for the mafia to see.

I think it your plan is not ment to work... like i said you aint going to last long here... your methods... do you got any? i mean do you really think that if they have been here for a while that they will give you information once the the heat is around the corner? no way.. you are just confusing police force... and by doing that you must go.... and i am sure other see it this way aswell...

[Chimerical]

I think it your plan is not ment to work... like i said you aint going to last long here... your methods... do you got any? i mean do you really think that if they have been here for a while that they will give you information once the the heat is around the corner? no way.. you are just confusing police force... and by doing that you must go.... and i am sure other see it this way aswell...

So far you seem the most confused.
I'm sure the killers are getting the message loud and clear: They'll make a mistake eventually and I'll kill them.

Personally I think errrzarrr is the killer.

[azelismia]

So far you seem the most confused.
I'm sure the killers are getting the message loud and clear: They'll make a mistake eventually and I'll kill them.

Personally I think errrzarrr is the killer.


I do think the at least one r comment was a bit telling. even if it was random, errrzarrr has many many r's in their name. I also think you're acting a bit suspicious though. I think you're both in league.

[RoyalINTJ]

There is nobody to care about your opinion Chimerical... go home... you keep attacking errrzarrr for no reason... where is Trinity... i cant stand this mad man talkin over and over again when i am trying to concentrate on more important things.... which would be what the plan of mafia...
I think if they work as a group and i am sure they do... i believe their plan would be for other two or at least one mole to be quite and lay low.... so i would like to point out on Cuivienen and mental drift both very suitable for lay low profile..... your thoughts on this one gentleman ?! And next time you open your mouth Chimerical ... you better think twice... or you might end up in a hospital where you will be an even more easy target for mafia...

[Chimerical]

There is nobody to care about your opinion Chimerical... go home... you keep attacking errrzarrr for no reason... where is Trinity... i cant stand this mad man talkin over and over again when i am trying to concentrate on more important things.... which would be what the plan of mafia...
I think if they work as a group and i am sure they do... i believe their plan would be for other two or at least one mole to be quite and lay low.... so i would like to point out on Cuivienen and mental drift both very suitable for lay low profile..... your thoughts on this one gentleman ?! And next time you open your mouth Chimerical ... you better think twice... or you might end up in a hospital where you will be an even more easy target for mafia...

Are you even an INTJ.....you seem like and ESFJ......strange. Maybe you're an INTP, when they get mad they act like ESFJ's. I think that would make sense. But don't worry, I don't think they'll kill you anytime soon. Sucks you can't trust me because I think I found out how to keep you alive. And I'm certain errrzarrr is the killer.

[RoyalINTJ]

So you have found a way to keep me alive... huh? and that would be calling on your cell phone to your buddies and saying : "hey leave the RoyalINTJ alone... we dont need to kill him..." i hope it didnt take you too long to "figure" this puzzle...

[Chimerical]

So you have found a way to keep me alive... huh? and that would be calling on your cell phone to your buddies and saying : "hey leave the RoyalINTJ alone... we dont need to kill him..." i hope it didnt take you too long to "figure" this puzzle...

No, it's not that black and white. Though you accuse me of being the killer you don't have proof. I've found a way to set a trap so that they wont kill you. I can't say it here so I'll send you a PM.

[Elfrun]

hi royal, trinity was sleeping - i mean investigating every possible angle. Now i need to in over the posts to try and read between the lines. Nice to know you're not a mole though, hard to know who to trust around here!

[Marja]

*sits in corner*

Right now, I bet a lot of of you wish you were mafia! So much fighting.

Since I don't trust what anyone actually says, my guess is that Chimerical is a mole. TLM took over the game so he could participate and it's more fun to play as a killer (I was one once). You get to lie and throw people off.

If the moles were chosen randomly then this and the 'R' theory are erroneous.

[mental drift]

There is nobody to care about your opinion Chimerical... go home... you keep attacking errrzarrr for no reason... where is Trinity... i cant stand this mad man talkin over and over again when i am trying to concentrate on more important things.... which would be what the plan of mafia...
I think if they work as a group and i am sure they do... i believe their plan would be for other two or at least one mole to be quite and lay low.... so i would like to point out on Cuivienen and [B]mental drift[B] both very suitable for lay low profile..... your thoughts on this one gentleman ?! And next time you open your mouth Chimerical ... you better think twice... or you might end up in a hospital where you will be an even more easy target for mafia...

Hey, I'm back, the boss told me to go find some blinker fluid. Blinker fluid, and I fell for it, ha ha, the joke was on me.

I heard my name has come up in this investigation, someone accusing me of laying low, but I've been trying to fix my paperwork. Like I said it's my first day, and you know how paperwork goes-my id card, W-2, normal stuff.

*Picks up paper off of the ground near Chimerical Hey Chimerical did you drop this. Wait it's the note, I thought this was suppose to be going to the lab, why was it on the ground next to you?

I don't know Chimerical your looking awful suspicious right now. Your making yourself a target from both sides if you ask me, I mean with all your rambling.

If I was a mole, I would be concerned about your saying too much if you were a mole and ratting me out. And if your not a mole, you're sure looking like one. But again what do I know I'm just the rookie.

Hello Mr Royal sir, I have heard a lot about your work, mental drift is the name, first day here. I hope your vacation went well. The word is your the only one around here with enough integrity not to be a suspect. I hope you can nail those guys before anyone else gets killed, I have a family you know. If you need anything, coffee, doughnuts, or anything, just let me know. Again an absolute pleasure to be working with such a living legend.

[TheLastMohican]

If the moles were chosen randomly then this and the 'R' theory are erroneous.

Moles (Murderers) were chosen randomly.

[Elfrun]

*eyes wide in awe* wow Chim, you do have lovely hands! Synopsys according to Chief Trinity: initially a debate raged about rookie v vets then realising this was crazy we moved on to the more sensible 'r' v no 'r' theory and errr became suspect number one. There was some distraction caused by doughnuts (don't eat them, they're poisoned). Errr cleverly pushed the focus onto Chim then Royal joined the MEPD and accusations started flying. My question is this, Shai would you kill for doughnuts?

[Chimerical]

I don't think I'll die because everyone suspects me. I did that on purpose. If everyone suspects me enough the killers will leave me alive and give me more time to find out who they are. If I lay low I'll be picked off at random. Speak of be killed.

[azelismia]

*sits in corner*

Right now, I bet a lot of of you wish you were mafia! So much fighting.

Since I don't trust what anyone actually says, my guess is that Chimerical is a mole. TLM took over the game so he could participate and it's more fun to play as a killer (I was one once). You get to lie and throw people off.

If the moles were chosen randomly then this and the 'R' theory are erroneous.


I dont' think the R theory is a theory that has anything to do with TLM. I think Errrzarr was basically telling us he was a killer, but doing it in such a way that he probably thought no one would take him seriously. in otherwords toying with the lot. Then again it could have been entirely random on his part





azelismia added to this post, 0 minutes and 46 seconds later...

I don't think I'll die because everyone suspects me. I did that on purpose. If everyone suspects me enough the killers will leave me alive and give me more time to find out who they are. If I lay low I'll be picked off at random. Speak of be killed.

if you're voted off, doesn't that kill you?

[Chimerical]

If I'm still alive next round it's still pretty even on the whole killer thing. Personally I want to wait and see what happens. Unless someone says something crazy.

[Arcani]

I dont' think the R theory is a theory that has anything to do with TLM. I think Errrzarr was basically telling us he was a killer, but doing it in such a way that he probably thought no one would take him seriously. in otherwords toying with the lot. Then again it could have been entirely random on his part





azelismia added to this post, 0 minutes and 46 seconds later...



if you're voted off, doesn't that kill you?

I think the whole 'r' thing was just an offhand comment about probabilities and I don't think there is any deeper message to be gotten from it.

As for voting, I was under the impression that first you were put in jail and then the next day we would be given the option to execute that person or set them free.

[mental drift]

Well it's time for me to go home. The boss has given me some homework, practicing filling out some of these forms. They weren't lying when they said there would be paperwork out the wazoo. Anyways, the wife is planning a candle-light dinner, and if I don't hurry I might not get dessert, so I will see you guys tomorrow. leaves to everyone saying bye.

[Elfrun]

*yanking marja into an the office and slamming the door* you look like a mole, a rattish looking mole to me. Coincident?!? What's your story kid-o?

[RoyalINTJ]

Chimerical is trying to be confident i guess.. but he fails badly...


I wonder where constable Cuivienen is.... havent seen her around today... i was thinking about asking some questions to her.... tho she is a rookie i would wanna hear her ideas on what should be do in order to find out who moles are... a little inside on her as a police officer would be interesting aswell... what movtivates her... what gives her satisfaction in this job....

[azelismia]

I think the whole 'r' thing was just an offhand comment about probabilities and I don't think there is any deeper message to be gotten from it.

As for voting, I was under the impression that first you were put in jail and then the next day we would be given the option to execute that person or set them free.


you're probably right about the voting. on the R thing, that's the beauty of it if he is a killer. two messages at once. I personally think he's guilty defending him makes me think you're one of the three as well.

[Arcani]

you're probably right about the voting. on the R thing, that's the beauty of it if he is a killer. two messages at once. I personally think he's guilty defending him makes me think you're one of the three as well.

I'm just saying I have doubts about the whole 'r' thing having any merit. If you want to know my stance on errrzarrr it hasn't changed since I first made it:

Chimerical, I am beginning to question your loyalty to this department. While I agree with your reasoning regarding RoyalINTJ I question your motive for dragging it out into the light. Even if it were common knowledge (and indeed it is a simple deduction) there is no reason to bring it out into the open when there are traitors among us! You have essentially just laid the groundwork for the moles, that combined with your... abrasive comments to this point makes me seriously doubt your loyalty.

As for errrzarrr, you are also near the top of my list (those double negatives are pretty damning), but I am willing to believe they are nothing more than grammatical errors. I have trouble believing you would purposely imply you want to kill someone unless you are playing scapegoat to try and get another mole in better standing (i.e. Chimerical)...

[ShaiGar]

too long didn't read. What's this R thing?

[azelismia]

too long didn't read. What's this R thing?

Errzarrr wrote: "Today is my 1st day of work in this force. The infiltration is pretty worring for us and I think the murderer has at least a r in his/her name."

[ShaiGar]

ahh. That could implicate nearly all of us.

[Marja]

*yanking marja into an the office and slamming the door* you look like a mole, a rattish looking mole to me. Coincident?!? What's your story kid-o?

I am a detective, a very old one. This rat on my shoulder, his name is Riddle. Whenever he thinks someone is untrustworthy, Riddle squeaks in my ear. That's why I haven't retired yet; my rat is indispensable.

Last week, I found a mole in my front yard. I smashed it with a shovel. That is a warning!

[Elfrun]

I am a detective, a very old one. This rat on my shoulder, his name is Riddle. Whenever he thinks someone is untrustworthy, Riddle squeaks in my ear. That's why I haven't retired yet; my rat is indispensable.

Last week, I found a mole in my front yard. I smashed it with a shovel. That is a warning!

*Pondering Marja’s latest comments to myself* Violence against a harmless animal?... first sign of a sociopath. And seriously who walks around with a rat on their shoulder? :undecided: and why hasn't anyone else noticed it or are people to scared to comment? There must be a mental imbalance here. Sounds like an ideal candidate for a Mafia hit man.

<Walks past Marja smiling nervously and subtly positions a new surveillance camera to watch Marja's desk> Doing a great job Marja, keep it up :anxious:. <quickly walks back into office and closes the blinds. *phew, Nutcase!*

[Cuivienen]

There is nobody to care about your opinion Chimerical... go home... you keep attacking errrzarrr for no reason... where is Trinity... i cant stand this mad man talkin over and over again when i am trying to concentrate on more important things.... which would be what the plan of mafia...
I think if they work as a group and i am sure they do... i believe their plan would be for other two or at least one mole to be quite and lay low.... so i would like to point out on Cuivienen and mental drift both very suitable for lay low profile..... your thoughts on this one gentleman ?! And next time you open your mouth Chimerical ... you better think twice... or you might end up in a hospital where you will be an even more easy target for mafia...

Chimerical is trying to be confident i guess.. but he fails badly...


I wonder where constable Cuivienen is.... havent seen her around today... i was thinking about asking some questions to her.... tho she is a rookie i would wanna hear her ideas on what should be do in order to find out who moles are... a little inside on her as a police officer would be interesting aswell... what movtivates her... what gives her satisfaction in this job....

I am sorry for not being more active so far, I`ve been very busy with university papers that are due next week, but now I`m pretty much finished with the worst part, so if you want to ask me any questions, I will be checking this thread regularly. It`s great that the players are so much more active this round.
Personally I currently think Shaigar or Chimerical are the most suspicious, haven`t really made up my mind yet though.

[Chimerical]

What makes me so suspicious? Personally I think my partner, Trinity, will vouch and say I am NOT a killer. I was summoned by Trinity to help with the case and we've been working together very hard on this. Isn't that right trinity?

[Elfrun]

eep time to pick a side *wipes sweat off forehead and takes a deep breath* Whilst nothing is certain my subjective thinking is this; my number one suspect right now is errr, there is a lot of finger pointing between Chim and Errr, if they were both Mafia they would probably work together so because i suspect Errr i have Chim on my safe list so far along with Shai and Royal. Reading back through the postings i feel Errr and one or two others that i'm watching closely are trying to frame Chim. That said i'll bite and take a definate stand, hopefully not my last *gulp*, and back Chim.

[Chimerical]

Well it's good to know at least one person has my back.

[Elfrun]

another unfounded perusing... does anyone else think Royal has an agenda? He really came in punching. I believed what was said by TLM about there still being three Mafia but maybe there's a strange unexpected twist? Some input from others would be appreciated and straight question for Royal, do you have an agenda?

[Chimerical]

Nah, I think Royal can be trusted. I'm pretty sure he's in the straight and narrow. But if I were in his position I wouldn't be too happy.

[Marja]

*Pondering Marja’s latest comments to myself* Violence against a harmless animal?... first sign of a sociopath. And seriously who walks around with a rat on their shoulder? :undecided: and why hasn't anyone else noticed it or are people to scared to comment? There must be a mental imbalance here. Sounds like an ideal candidate for a Mafia hit man.

<Walks past Marja smiling nervously and subtly positions a new surveillance camera to watch Marja's desk> Doing a great job Marja, keep it up :anxious:. <quickly walks back into office and closes the blinds. *phew, Nutcase!*

Harmless animal? Have you seen what moles do to yards?

If I did have a mental imbalance (I don't), I would not be in the mafia. These people are a different kind of crazy, they are not just eccentric. I've been here a long time and most everyone has accepted Riddle and me by now.

I wasn't trying to frame Chimerical with my previous post, I was only giving my opinion. Remember, I also said that I could easily be wrong.

Now, excuse me, the real Riddle is demanding a carrot.

[Elfrun]

Oh my God, you can read my thoughts, eeep. You're nowhere near the top of my suspects list kid-o but i am watching you, you and your carrot eating rat!

[Marja]

Oh my God, you can read my thoughts, eeep. You're nowhere near the top of my suspects list kid-o but i am watching you, you and your carrot eating rat!

Riddle wants to know if you have any carrots with you? Or apples? He also likes raisins. Riddle also enjoys lunging at people who think he's strange.

[Elfrun]

:laugh: Sorry no fruit here but i'll bring my left over lunch tomorrow!

[AgentofGaming]

Does the rat eat doughnuts?

[TheLastMohican]

Does the rat eat doughnuts?
All of the players are avid doughnut fans.





TheLastMohican added to this post, 19 minutes and 43 seconds later...

The Report:

On Monday morning, Dreamer is found dead in the police station, his face on his desk in a puddle of cold coffee. An unknown cocktail of poisons and Irish liquor is found in his coffee and bloodstream.
As his locker is being cleaned out, a note is found a piece of uniquely purple paper:
“I’m watching you all, one by one I’ll pick you off. You crossed the Mafia now the Mafia will cross you.”
Paranoia sweeps through the station, and all the lockers are searched. A notepad of purple paper is found in ShaiGar's, and another note on that same paper is found in Arcani's locker: "You're next."

Trinity is found dead, strangled, with large marks on her neck. Her bloody finger is stuck between her teeth, and on the floor next to her is a note written in blood: "Errrzarrr." The office is in shambles, and her desk is left open. In it are the makings of the same cocktail found in Dreamer's coffee, and a package of pads of purple paper.

Later that day, while out on a case, Azelismia is killed in a peculiar drive-by shooting. Unlike a normal drive-by victim, she is entirely riddled with bullets. There are no witnesses.

[AgentofGaming]

All of the players are avid doughnut fans.

Well I like my Boston cream too but... I have been wondering why my personal set of doughnuts have nibbles on them, and there are no human fingerprints on the box.

Darn I suspect they may be killing us veteran down. Since I'm in line to be promoted into office I may be at risk.

I need clarifications:
can more than one person be arrested on a turn?
can mobsters free imprisoned suspects?

[ShaiGar]

All of the players are avid doughnut fans.





TheLastMohican added to this post, 19 minutes and 43 seconds later...

The Report:

On Monday morning, Dreamer is found dead in the police station, his face on his desk in a puddle of cold coffee. An unknown cocktail of poisons and Irish liquor is found in his coffee and bloodstream.
As his locker is being cleaned out, a note is found a piece of uniquely purple paper:
“I’m watching you all, one by one I’ll pick you off. You crossed the Mafia now the Mafia will cross you.”
Paranoia sweeps through the station, and all the lockers are searched. A notepad of purple paper is found in ShaiGar's, and another note on that same paper is found in Arcani's locker: "You're next."

Trinity is found dead, strangled, with large marks on her neck. Her bloody finger is stuck between her teeth, and on the floor next to her is a note written in blood: "Errrzarrr." The office is in shambles, and her desk is left open. In it are the makings of the same cocktail found in Dreamer's coffee, and a package of pads of purple paper.

Later that day, while out on a case, Azelismia is killed in a peculiar drive-by shooting. Unlike a normal drive-by victim, she is entirely riddled with bullets. There are no witnesses.
Well we're all aware that I like to plan murders for fun. There's no bloody way in hell I'd leave evidence in my locker. It's too played out a mistake.

Dead
Azelismia
Dreamer
Trinity

Threatened
Arcani

Implicated
Errrzarrr
ShaiGar The Magnificent

Left Alone Completely
AgentofGaming
Antares
Antisocial one
Chimerical
Cuivienen
Marja
Mental drift
RoyalINTJ
Zirka

Suspicion will likely fall on either RoyalINTJ because the TLM likes mindgames, and RINTJ was the last to join with no more murderers added to the game once he joined. Or on some other character

Who was Dreamers drinking buddies?





ShaiGar added to this post, 5 minutes and 50 seconds later...

Antares? You've not answered any questions at all. So I pose these questions to you.


Where were you when Dreamer was killed?
You've been fairly friendly with dreamer lately, why, what's the source of your relationship with Him?
Twice I've met you in an Italian restaurant on Main Street and Pine Avenue, What's the particular fascination with that restaurant? The Clientele?

[Dreamer]

Im dead??? Fuck!

[TheLastMohican]

I need clarifications:
can more than one person be arrested on a turn?
can mobsters free imprisoned suspects?

Moles can vote along with the other Detectives, and in theory they can sway the vote to free their buddies.
Only one person can be arrested in one turn. However, in addition a person who was already in prison can be executed or freed, and those who do not answer questions (Ahem, Antares) are executed.

Im dead??? F***!

Is that your soul talking?

[Cuivienen]

Well, I have reasons to be sure that errzarr is innocent, so his evidence must be constructed. On one hand that would point towards Shaigar`s implication being fake as well, on the other hand that might just be too easy.
I suppose the evidence was planted by the murderers, the fact that they picked two of the most high-profile suspects so far points into that direction as well, so the implications probably mean nothing. Thoughts, anyone?

[antisocial one]

Well, I have reasons to be sure that errzarr is innocent, so his evidence must be constructed. On one hand that would point towards Shaigar`s implication being fake as well, on the other hand that might just be too easy.
I suppose the evidence was planted by the murderers, the fact that they picked two of the most high-profile suspects so far points into that direction as well, so the implications probably mean nothing. Thoughts, anyone?

I mostly agree whit you.
I think that errrzarrr is ideal person to be victim in this.
But we can talk about it us much as we can but chances are 50:50 for everything.

[RoyalINTJ]

well situation is pretty bad... 3 people who were killed wasnt on my suspect list... so it doesnt make my job finding moles easier.... i must think... this is really serious ... i say as i go into Trinitys office and sit down at desk...

[Chimerical]

I still think it's Errrzarrr. It's very possible Errrzarrr and the other killer are working together and planted evidence implicating themselves and made it obvious that it was planted to take suspicion away from errrzarrr completely.

errrzarrr

And I'm a little pissed that my partner died.

[Marja]

Well, I have reasons to be sure that errzarr is innocent, so his evidence must be constructed.

So either both of you or neither of you are moles. If you have a reason to be sure, that probably means errzarr was the name sent to you. Or you're covering for him. Interesting.

[Chimerical]

So either both of you or neither of you are moles. If you have a reason to be sure, that probably means errzarr was the name sent to you. Or you're covering for him. Interesting.

No bullshitting this time. No tricks. I think Marja has a point. The only legit reason to know is to be connected. But you could very well be moles.

So, considering I suspect Errrzarrr, I now suspect C the same.

[RoyalINTJ]

There's no bloody way in hell I'd leave evidence in my locker. It's too played out a mistake.



thats an great alibi... if we eliminate chance that you planted evidence on purpose to get yourself a great alibi...

[Chimerical]

thats an great alibi... if we eliminate chance that you planted evidence on purpose to get yourself a great alibi...

This is something I agree with based on last game. It's not like Shai Gar. It's not his style. I'm really convinced he's not the killer now.

[mental drift]

*Taps on the open door to Trinity's old office. Knocks louder to wake Royal Hi sir, things are a mess around here, I have a family, you know. I'm glad to be on the job, but everybody seems to be dying. The smell of blood makes me nauseas also. *vomits on a pile of papers on the floor. Begins placing papers in trash.
You know sir I have been thinking, I guess it's all of those CSI type of shows, but I have been looking at some clues.

While Chimerical was at the top of my list, the fact that the recently departed Trinity stood by him, even though it may have cost him his life, causes me to believe he is not suspect.

I don't think ShaiGar is the killer, because he openly answered all of my questions, among other things. Sure, his hideous smile, and green hair makes it hard to trust him, but I think he is trying hard to find the killers, much like Trinity was...the poor soul.

Errzarrr however, has been suspect, and I haven't seen any reason to believe otherwise. His implication with a probably innocent ShaiGar, seems to have been an if all else fails attempt to try and keep him from getting stoned with our paperwads, after we vote.

[Chimerical]

*sets up a memorial for trinity*
Naturally I wouldn't care. But trinity called me to partner up and join this case. We were supposed to solve this one together and then go out for drinks and trade war stories and catch up on old time.

I'm heading to the bar, taking a temporary break from the case. Anyone is welcome to come and have a few drinks with me. I just need to clear my head.

[RoyalINTJ]

*watches mental drift clean up the mess he made * * how am i going to find the moles with workforce like this... i think to myself* Hear me out rookie... if you are having double thoughts about whether it was the right career for you then you better make up your mind quick... either leave the force and perhaps save your life... because to tell you the truth i am not counting on another vacation for myself... i maybe very well been last for me... Or get yourself in hands and do your job well....
I write a note on a paper on my desk as i get up... opening doors ...where is constable Cuivienen... i want to have a word with her...
I sit back in my chair as i take a second look at my paper... where is list of 3 names...





RoyalINTJ added to this post, 1 minutes and 48 seconds later...

This Errzarrr and Chimerical situation keeps worrying me as i keep thinking to myself...

[Elfrun]

*gasp* Starts writing real life hit list...

Chao and good luck, me thinks you'll need it

[Chimerical]

Oh yeah, this is for all the dead people, multi taskers, and people who simply want to play this game.

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My little brother wanted me to post it on the intp board....but I wont be playing.

[mental drift]

Hey, anyone know who Zirka is, I noticed their punch card beside the time-clock, but I haven't seen them yet. I'm pretty good with names, and that one just doesn't ring a bell, are they also on vacation.

[errrzarrr]

So So so... Lot to work with!
First of all: Sorry for the dead cops. They deserve a solemn memorial.

well, let's go with the dead people:

Dreamer: He got killed by the Mohican just because did not answered the question Azelismia asked at the very first of the game and wasnt participating at all ( I think that's a reason to get killed in this game)... Or, was a damned random killing. I don't think he was bothering the mole's ass. So, the first is more obvious.

Dreamer: Don't know if mole or cop but was Killed by the mod for not participating/answering at all.

Azelismia: Oh my... Oh my... This one hurts. A young and new cop was killed. One less, I am sure of it. She had good intentions, Im sure, but was doing wrong conclutions(maybe because she is not a vet). She was thinking I am on the mole's side. Why the h*ll take her out of the way? :S To imply me! Damn good move mole's.

Azelismia: A good cop but doing wrong conclutions got killed to Imply my ass.

Trinity: Don't know if cop or not. Guess she was. But sure they killed her to imply me, because She, as Chimerical was implying me. I'm sure Trinity and Chimerical know each other, If one is a cop the other is so; If one is a mole, the other is so.

Trinity: Don't Know if a cop or not. I guess she was. But, surely was killed to imply me, again!

Why I am so important right now? 2 girls killed to imply me and that NOTE. LOL. You mole's or TheLastMohican are very creative, whoever that did it. Oh! LastMohican you like to play mind games eh!.

About Arcani: S/he (tell me your sex please) got a note that says s/he is next. Why is s/he important?. I dont have connection with him/her... BUT I am almost 100% sure s/he is a cop and a good one doing a good job. So, maybe she is bothering in mole's way, because she is doing a good job ;).

ShaiGar got the same Message. But I am not sure About him. I think that was to confuse. This one is fake. Not a real message.

Zirka: Is it me or that girl had not said nothing at all? Zero Participation. You could get kicked by the mod girl.

You Chimerical: Why are you SO OBSESIVE with me??? You say my name on every single reply you do. On every single reply, sometimes more than once. Theres one reply that you say my name FOUR times! and even in bold. Why Am I that important to you?

Maybe i am wrong with you. But hey, Is like 5 cops that thinks you are a mole, me included. Sorry If I am wrong man, but you are a cop doing a very bad job or you are a mole doing a very good job (very hasty and closed thoug). That's why we have doubts.

Antares: Very suspicious too. You are not participating either and connected to Shai Gar.

[RoyalINTJ]

When do we cast votes?

[ShaiGar]

Now if you wish... I'm waiting to see Antares response... if she doesn't respond she'll be killed so I'm not going to waste a vote on her.

[errrzarrr]

I hope that when she responses is not any stuff... I hope is answering the questions and telling what she thinks.

[ShaiGar]

such as how Marja responded to me with half a line and then left.

[Marja]

such as how Marja responded to me with half a line and then left.

I can't find where you asked me a question. If you want to know something, please ask because I cannot read expressions or moods here!

I'll look again in case I missed it.

[ShaiGar]

ahh, yeah sorry, that was trinity, and she's dead now so good.





ShaiGar added to this post, 2 minutes and 23 seconds later...

I can't find where you asked me a question. If you want to know something, please ask because I cannot read expressions or moods here!

I'll look again in case I missed it.
I'm only allowed to ask one person questions. I do not want to break the rules in case that's a killing offence.

But do feel free to answer any questions that other people may have asked others...

[TheLastMohican]

When do we cast votes?

Before noon on Tuesday (US Central Time).

[ShaiGar]

US Central Time means nothing to me. What's that in GMT?

[Arcani]

All of the players are avid doughnut fans.

Yes, donuts are a favorite around here, speaking of which, WHO ATE MY GLAZED ONE?!?


TheLastMohican added to this post, 19 minutes and 43 seconds later...

The Report:

On Monday morning, Dreamer is found dead in the police station, his face on his desk in a puddle of cold coffee. An unknown cocktail of poisons and Irish liquor is found in his coffee and bloodstream.
As his locker is being cleaned out, a note is found a piece of uniquely purple paper:
“I’m watching you all, one by one I’ll pick you off. You crossed the Mafia now the Mafia will cross you.”
Paranoia sweeps through the station, and all the lockers are searched. A notepad of purple paper is found in ShaiGar's, and another note on that same paper is found in Arcani's locker: "You're next."

Trinity is found dead, strangled, with large marks on her neck. Her bloody finger is stuck between her teeth, and on the floor next to her is a note written in blood: "Errrzarrr." The office is in shambles, and her desk is left open. In it are the makings of the same cocktail found in Dreamer's coffee, and a package of pads of purple paper.

Later that day, while out on a case, Azelismia is killed in a peculiar drive-by shooting. Unlike a normal drive-by victim, she is entirely riddled with bullets. There are no witnesses.

Eh, whats that you say? The moles have struck! Trinity, Azelismia, and Dreamer are dead!? And they've announced me as their next target!!! Obviously this is all very disturbing news. When is the memorial service being held? *begins pacing* Well, there will be time or that later, our first priority must be finding the killers.

So So so... Lot to work with!
First of all: Sorry for the dead cops. They deserve a solemn memorial.

well, let's go with the dead people:

Yes, that seems a good place to start.

Dreamer: He got killed by the Mohican just because did not answered the question Azelismia asked at the very first of the game and wasnt participating at all ( I think that's a reason to get killed in this game)... Or, was a damned random killing. I don't think he was bothering the mole's ass. So, the first is more obvious.

Dreamer: Don't know if mole or cop but was Killed by the mod for not participating/answering at all.

I'm not so sure about this. I don't recall Dreamer saying much, but that does not automatically mean he was killed by the mod. We have been told there are 3 killers so it seems likely there will be 3 murders meaning Dreamer may have just been murdered because he was an easy target that will not give us much info about who the killers are.

Azelismia: Oh my... Oh my... This one hurts. A young and new cop was killed. One less, I am sure of it. She had good intentions, Im sure, but was doing wrong conclutions(maybe because she is not a vet). She was thinking I am on the mole's side. Why the h*ll take her out of the way? :S To imply me! Damn good move mole's.

Azelismia: A good cop but doing wrong conclutions got killed to Imply my ass.

Maybe, maybe not. True she did think you were a mole and perhaps she was killed as an attempt to frame you, or perhaps her assumptions were correct and you needed her dead to prevent her from acting against you. At this point I see little useful information in her death and anything we say is just wild speculation for now.
Trinity:[/B] Don't know if cop or not. Guess she was. But sure they killed her to imply me, because She, as Chimerical was implying me. I'm sure Trinity and Chimerical know each other, If one is a cop the other is so; If one is a mole, the other is so.

Trinity: Don't Know if a cop or not. I guess she was. But, surely was killed to imply me, again!

You seem very paranoid right now errrzarrr, but maybe for good reason, after all your name was written in her blood. This death carries some weighty implications to it.
Firstly, the implication of errrzarrr written in Trinity's blood.
Secondly, The purple pads in the desk and the makings of the poison that killed Dreamer would imply Trinity was one of the killers.

Perhaps Trinity was putting the supplies away when she was attacked, or maybe her killer planted them there. In any case, they are locked away in the evidence locker now so I doubt we will be seeing more poisonings.

Why I am so important right now? 2 girls killed to imply me and that NOTE. LOL. You mole's or TheLastMohican are very creative, whoever that did it. Oh! LastMohican you like to play mind games eh!.

About Arcani: S/he (tell me your sex please) got a note that says s/he is next. Why is s/he important?. I dont have connection with him/her... BUT I am almost 100% sure s/he is a cop and a good one doing a good job. So, maybe she is bothering in mole's way, because she is doing a good job ;).

I am a he, good sir, it is all in my file if you decide to take a look, I'll admit the hat is somewhat flamboyant, but its only a fashion statement and not at all indicative of my gender!

As for the message; it concerns me, but not because of the death threat, that comes with the job and with my remarks thus far I'm not particularly surprised by that. What concerns me is that the mafia would alert me to their intentions, they have after all just forced me to be extra cautious. What worries me is that they might try to imply that the threat was planted by me to take any suspicions off me and sow more confusion among the detectives. I assure you all I am not a mole and for them to go to such a low tactic of threatening me makes me think I am on the right track and they are getting scared. They couldn't kill me immediately because it would reveal them so instead they are trying to scare me off. Let me tell you moles now, I do not scare easy.

ShaiGar got the same Message. But I am not sure About him. I think that was to confuse. This one is fake. Not a real message.

Agreed, but I'm also not sure.


Since I am being threatened I see no reason to hold back on this. I will give you my thoughts on what is going on in full:

My initial thoughts were that Chimerical and errrzarrr were both in the mafia and their bickering was an attempt to leave one or the other in higher standing when we make the first arrest. If we arrest one of them and see a decline in the murders then it would seem that person is in the mafia and whoever was fighting against them hardest would gain trust with the rest of the detectives. In this respect, I think errrzarrr is playing the part of a mafia scapegoat. Then Trinity got involved and sided pretty strongly with Chimerical, this led me to believe Trinity was a mafia member as well and was furthering the act to make errrzarrr the scapegoat. I believe that when the mafia struck last night Trinity and Chimerical made their kills (Trinity kills Dreamer and Chimerical kills Azelismia). Errrzarrr, either because he was fed up with being hung out by his fellow mafia members, or as part of a plan between him and Chimerical, betrayed Trinity and killed her. Trinity made a last ditch effort at revenge by writing out errrzarrr's name in blood.

I have no way to substantiate this, but those are my thoughts at the moment. I'm also beginning to wonder about RoyalINTJ, it seemed obvious in the beginning that he was a true detective, but recently doubts are creeping up. It is only baseless suspicion for now, but I'm watching you Royal.
US Central Time means nothing to me. What's that in GMT?
I believe thats GMT -5

[Cuivienen]

So either both of you or neither of you are moles. If you have a reason to be sure, that probably means errzarr was the name sent to you. Or you're covering for him. Interesting.

Well, yes, his name was sent to me.

I'm only allowed to ask one person questions. I do not want to break the rules in case that's a killing offence.

But do feel free to answer any questions that other people may have asked others...

I can`t think of any questions, so if you want to, you can ask another person this turn instead of me, or if that`s against the rules tell me your questions and I`ll ask them for you.

[Chimerical]

US Central Time means nothing to me. What's that in GMT?

-06:00

Oh and errrzarrr, errrzarrr, errrzarrr, errrzarrr, errrzarrr. 5!!!! HA.
Names in bold mean that it's a vote btw. I still believe Errrzarrr to be in the mafia.

I would like to point out it's of no advantage of a mafia member to vote out another mafia member. When the mafia members are caught they are disarmed and you'll know if they've got weapons or not. If me and errrzarrr were both mafia and I voted for him and he was caught than I would lose 1 in my capacity to kill. I'd rather possess the power to kill in higher numbers so I could wipe out the cops quicker before suspicion came about.

I still see no reason to suspect Royal. Suspecting him is exactly what the mafia wants!!! There's no way he's in the mafia by the way he came into the game. If we point the finger at Royal then THEY have a significant advantage.

Last round I was baiting to get information and leads off the killers by throwing myself into the open, but then the whole thing happened with my partner trinity. Not only am I dead set that E is in the mafia but I'm a bit pissed that I no longer have a partner I can completely trust. The only person here I trust to be a cop is Royal at this point. The person I trust the least is E.

7 times, but if you include the E's [even this one] it's 10.

[ShaiGar]

I disagree, TLM likes mindgames... He might have said that there were three... and only told two Mafioso... He might have been waiting to annoint the third, and chose to annoint RoyINTJ when he came in

[Chimerical]

I disagree, TLM likes mindgames... He might have said that there were three... and only told two Mafioso... He might have been waiting to annoint the third, and chose to annoint RoyINTJ when he came in

Can't say that I buy into that. Royal's initiation was so random I doubt it was planned. And I don't think that there was an opening left. That would leave the killers as an extreme disadvantage. Like say there were two mafia in the game. for them to survive would be extremely difficult and near impossible. Once one of them was caught then when it becomes a one on one game the game is over as a draw.

3 is believable especially since there were three deaths. I could see a possibility of 4 with one being inactive.

[Antares]

Whoa- we're taking a long time to hold the voting. Still waitin'... (I haven't abandoned. Just lurking)

[TheLastMohican]

US Central Time means nothing to me. What's that in GMT?

GMT -5.

I disagree, TLM likes mindgames...

This keeps coing up. Where did you guys get this?

Whoa- we're taking a long time to hold the voting. Still waitin'... (I haven't abandoned. Just lurking)

The first Day Phase had no voting, but this one (the second) does. Make sure you get your votes in on time, and answer ShaiGar's questions. If you do not, you will be executed.

[ShaiGar]

I was hoping you wouldn't tell her that. If people don't answer questions they die... and she's not on my list of safe detectives. The less I have to vote off the better.

[TheLastMohican]

I was hoping you wouldn't tell her that. If people don't answer questions they die... and she's not on my list of safe detectives. The less I have to vote off the better.

I do not want to people to die for not answering questions if they simply forgot about it. The executions are meant to punish signs of shiftiness. Therefore I will remind people of their duties so they have a chance to fulfill them.

[Cuivienen]

Can't say that I buy into that. Royal's initiation was so random I doubt it was planned. And I don't think that there was an opening left. That would leave the killers as an extreme disadvantage. Like say there were two mafia in the game. for them to survive would be extremely difficult and near impossible. Once one of them was caught then when it becomes a one on one game the game is over as a draw.

3 is believable especially since there were three deaths. I could see a possibility of 4 with one being inactive.

I don`t think there are really 4 murderers. TLM clearly and directly stated there were 3, as the gamemaster he ought to be impartial. What reason would he have to favor the murderers? If he hadn`t told us a number at all it would have been a different story, but the way it is, I highly doubt he would tell an outright lie in his position.

[ShaiGar]

I do not want to people to die for not answering questions if they simply forgot about it. The executions are meant to punish signs of shiftiness. Therefore I will remind people of their duties so they have a chance to fulfill them.

It's easy enough to hit Ctrl+F, type in ones name and then look through the mentions to see if you have been asked any questions. I suppose you're right though. In the last round My questions were not answered. Just a half a second and a slamming of the door. I was considering quitting at the end of this round if my questions were not answered, it's only fair to give the players a chance to play.

[TheLastMohican]

It's easy enough to hit Ctrl+F, type in ones name and then look through the mentions to see if you have been asked any questions. I suppose you're right though. In the last round My questions were not answered. Just a half a second and a slamming of the door. I was considering quitting at the end of this round if my questions were not answered, it's only fair to give the players a chance to play.

You are actually only supposed to question one player per round.

To all: If someone failed to answer your questions, PM me. I am not reading all of the posts carefully.

[Antares]

GMT -5.



This keeps coing up. Where did you guys get this?



The first Day Phase had no voting, but this one (the second) does. Make sure you get your votes in on time, and answer ShaiGar's questions. If you do not, you will be executed.

First off, where are his questions?

[TheLastMohican]

Antares? You've not answered any questions at all. So I pose these questions to you.

Where were you when Dreamer was killed?
You've been fairly friendly with dreamer lately, why, what's the source of your relationship with Him?
Twice I've met you in an Italian restaurant on Main Street and Pine Avenue, What's the particular fascination with that restaurant? The Clientele?

First off, where are his questions?

You owe me one.

[mental drift]

I disagree, TLM likes mindgames... He might have said that there were three... and only told two Mafioso... He might have been waiting to annoint the third, and chose to annoint RoyINTJ when he came in

ShaiGar, you were on my safe list, but your actions are getting suspicious. It appears obvious to everybody else that Royal isn't a killer, but you seem to be trying to lead people to suspect him.....hmmm. You appear to have an agenda to get people looking in what is apparently the wrong direction, maybe a hunch, but there's not much else to go on up to this point..

Still it is not enough to incriminate you as of yet, so errzarrr tops my list. vote cast

[errrzarrr]

ShaiGar, you were on my safe list, but your actions are getting suspicious. It appears obvious to everybody else that Royal isn't a killer, but you seem to be trying to lead people to suspect him.....hmmm. You appear to have an agenda to get people looking in what is apparently the wrong direction, maybe a hunch, but there's not much else to go on up to this point..

Still it is not enough to incriminate you as of yet, so errzarrr tops my list. vote cast

So, you chose me. Very weird. You had another player as suspicious since lot of time ago, and then PUFF! at the end you surprinsingly vote for me, with no aparent reason.

I hate to say it. You was on my safe list. Now I have you in dumb-cop-or-wise-mole list.

[Chimerical]

I don`t think there are really 4 murderers. TLM clearly and directly stated there were 3, as the gamemaster he ought to be impartial. What reason would he have to favor the murderers? If he hadn`t told us a number at all it would have been a different story, but the way it is, I highly doubt he would tell an outright lie in his position.
Because it would be more entertaining to watch. Kinda like the circle link with the detectives. It's interesting to see if they'll all complete the link full circle and find out who's innocent and who isn't. When you're a mod you make the game so it's fun to watch.

So, you chose me. Very weird. You had another player as suspicious since lot of time ago, and then PUFF! at the end you surprinsingly vote for me, with no aparent reason.

I hate to say it. You was on my safe list. Now I have you in dumb-cop-or-wise-mole list.

errrzarrr, question for you: Why should I believe you're not a mole?

[errrzarrr]

Errrzarrr, either because he was fed up with being hung out by his fellow mafia members, or as part of a plan between him and Chimerical, betrayed Trinity and killed her. Trinity made a last ditch effort at revenge by writing out errrzarrr's name in blood.


Why my name and not Chimerical's? :scared: Lot's of paranoia here.
You can bet The mole when killed her did the job well done. We are talking about mafia moles, not stupid frenetic unexpert killers. He would be asured that she was really really killed so she could not write nothing and if she had the time to do it, s/he simply would erase it. That simple. I am sure the name was written by the killer itself and it does not matter if it is my name, your's, Chimerical's or LastMohican's. The killer did it.

Now. If there are doubts still.. we can do a fingerprints test and a hand writting test so we surelly know who did it not and have a idea of the personality of who did it.

who likes this idea?


*errrzarrr goes to the Police Department, looking for the officer that does this kind of test.





errrzarrr added to this post, 13 minutes and 52 seconds later...

errrzarrr, question for you: Why should I believe you're not a mole?
I have a question for you and it answers your doubt.:thumbsup:

Are you able and would volunteer, with good will, let the officers do the fingerprints and handwriting test on you to know who wrote my name or at least discard possible murderers?

My response to my own question is: I volunteer in good will.

that answers your doubt. Hope you answer mine.

[Antares]

1. I was off with my five escorts in Vegas.
2. I just discovered how handsome dreamer's brother is, but I don't know him directly.
3. One of my boyfriends is Italian. Would that clear it up?

[Chimerical]

Why my name and not Chimerical's? :scared: Lot's of paranoia here.
You can bet The mole when killed her did the job well done. We are talking about mafia moles, not stupid frenetic unexpert killers. He would be asured that she was really really killed so she could not write nothing and if she had the time to do it, s/he simply would erase it. That simple. I am sure the name was written by the killer itself and it does not matter if it is my name, your's, Chimerical's or LastMohican's. The killer did it.

Now. If there are doubts still.. we can do a fingerprints test and a hand writting test so we surelly know who did it not and have a idea of the personality of who did it.

who likes this idea?


*errrzarrr goes to the Police Department, looking for the officer that does this kind of test.





errrzarrr added to this post, 13 minutes and 52 seconds later...


I have a question for you and it answers your doubt.:thumbsup:

Are you able and would volunteer, with good will, let the officers do the fingerprints and handwriting test on you to know who wrote my name or at least discard possible murderers?

My response to my own question is: I volunteer in good will.

that answers your doubt. Hope you answer mine.

HAHAHA, you're funny. Really you are. First off the fingerprinting would be retarded if it was a mafia hit. If I were in the mafia I would wear gloves of some sort to make sure I didn't leave prints.

Then if the killer did indeed write the note I don't think it would be someone foolish enough to use their own regular set of hand writing. They may have written it left handed, or been trained to write in different fonts and lettering to make it appear as if a different person wrote the note. But the dead person can't write anymore and we don't have anything with her handwriting on it.

So after all was said and done we'd have to conclude that she was the one who wrote it.

If there are prints they're probably planted at this point. Who knows who's been snooping around the crime scene. This is a professional job, there aren't going to be prints.

You're bluffing. You're trying to scare me away from it so that you look innocent. I don't buy it.

To answer your question, fuck it, why not.

But another thing about the prints. Even if we do find prints I'm trinity's partner, I'm sure you were in her office along with just about everyone else on the force. So the prints wouldn't mean anything because we'd find everyones prints.





Chimerical added to this post, 2 minutes and 36 seconds later...

*writes errrzarrr* on a piece of paper. Show's paper to TLM, the handwriting guy, and ask if it's the same as the handwriting seen in trinities office.

[TheLastMohican]

1. I was off with my five escorts in Vegas.
2. I just discovered how handsome dreamer's brother is, but I don't know him directly.
3. One of my boyfriends is Italian. Would that clear it up?
:laugh:





TheLastMohican added to this post, 1 minutes and 51 seconds later...

*writes errrzarrr* on a piece of paper. Show's paper to TLM, the handwriting guy, and ask if it's the same as the handwriting seen in trinities office.

Okay, I figure this test might as well be for real. Let the Detectives have more power.

I can confirm that Chimerical's sample does not match the writing on the floor.

Errrzarrr, that counts as your questioning for this turn.

[Chimerical]

:laugh:





TheLastMohican added to this post, 1 minutes and 51 seconds later...



Okay, I figure this test might as well be for real. Let the Detectives have more power.

I can confirm that Chimerical's sample does not match the writing on the floor.

Errrzarrr, that counts as your questioning for this turn.

Chimerical:thumbsup: - 1
Errrzarrr:thumbsdown: - 0

[errrzarrr]

oh kid, oh kid. You didnt answered really, you answered a part and completly avoided the other part.
The fingerprints could be fooled up. Maybe!. But not the handwritting test. Not at all (unless is printer's letters and they are blood letter). I know that maybe we don't get who did it, but at least we Discard who did it not!

So, the handwritting still works and helps.

Are you still backing up that trinity wrote her name? nooou waaay man!

As i Said: "...He would be asured that she was really really killed so she could not write nothing and if she had the time to do it, s/he simply would erase it. That simple... The killer did it."

Forget that romantic idea pal.


Ok Ok... good to know LTM! That at least demonstrates he was not the killer. There's still the possibility that he is a mole, even if not the demonstrated killer.

*errrzarrr writes errrzarrr on a paper and puts his fingersprints on it and gives it to LTM.

Everybody in here should do that test. This is a professional Department , detectives!!!. No privileges, with nobody.

[Chimerical]

oh kid, oh kid. You didnt answered really, you answered a part and completly avoided the other part.
The fingerprints could be fooled up. Maybe!. But not the handwritting test. Not at all (unless is printer's letters and they are blood letter). I know that maybe we don't get who did it, but at least we Discard who did it not!

So, the handwritting still works and helps.

Are you still backing up that trinity wrote her name? nooou waaay man!

As i Said: "...He would be asured that she was really really killed so she could not write nothing and if she had the time to do it, s/he simply would erase it. That simple... The killer did it."

Forget that romantic idea pal.


Ok Ok... good to know LTM! That at least demonstrates he was not the killer. There's still the possibility that he is a mole, even if not the demonstrated killer.

*errrzarrr writes errrzarrr on a paper and puts his fingersprints on it and gives it to LTM.

Everybody in here should do that test. This is a professional Department , detectives!!!. No privileges, with nobody.

Which part did I skip in your question.
Personally find it rather foolish to do the finger printing, it's just a waste of time because it's pretty obvious the killer would wear gloves. But none the less I'll give my print as well.

[Zirka]

Zirka: Is it me or that girl had not said nothing at all? Zero Participation. You could get kicked by the mod girl.


I'm sorry I don't meet your standards for participation, I don't talk much.

Thats why I'm a forensic pathologist and not a detective.

If you want anything more out of me, ask a direct question.

[errrzarrr]

ok, nevermind about the question. And yes, the fingerprints are not reliable in this case.

Glad to know those are not your letters.

[TheLastMohican]

Everybody in here should do that test. This is a professional Department , detectives!!!. No privileges, with nobody.

I confirm that Errrzarrr's sample does not match the writing on the floor either.

But this kind of test is expensive. Every time it is administered, it must be sponsored by a Detective, and it counts as that Detective's questioning for the turn.

[errrzarrr]

I'm sorry I don't meet your standards for participation, I don't talk much.

Thats why I'm a forensic pathologist and not a detective.

If you want anything more out of me, ask a direct question.

well, I can't ask anymore :S
But I would like that you do the handwritting test and as a forensics pathologist get information for us about the killers/killeds.- But hell, I can not ask :undecided:





errrzarrr added to this post, 1 minutes and 39 seconds later...

I confirm that Errrzarrr's sample does not match the writing on the floor either.


Good that everyone knows ;D

[Chimerical]

oh kid, oh kid. You didnt answered really, you answered a part and completly avoided the other part.
The fingerprints could be fooled up. Maybe!. But not the handwritting test. Not at all (unless is printer's letters and they are blood letter). I know that maybe we don't get who did it, but at least we Discard who did it not!

So, the handwritting still works and helps.

Are you still backing up that trinity wrote her name? nooou waaay man!

As i Said: "...He would be asured that she was really really killed so she could not write nothing and if she had the time to do it, s/he simply would erase it. That simple... The killer did it."

Forget that romantic idea pal.


Ok Ok... good to know LTM! That at least demonstrates he was not the killer. There's still the possibility that he is a mole, even if not the demonstrated killer.

*errrzarrr writes errrzarrr on a paper and puts his fingersprints on it and gives it to LTM.

Everybody in here should do that test. This is a professional Department , detectives!!!. No privileges, with nobody.

What was I avoiding. Why do you use so many double negatives. It takes extra effort to understand what you're saying and would confuse the crap out of any other person.

If you want me to leave a print, sure why not. But I think it would be much faster to simply check the note for prints first, since it's very likely there are none.





Chimerical added to this post, 1 minutes and 51 seconds later...

well, I can't ask anymore :S
But I would like that you do the handwritting test and as a forensics pathologist get information for us about the killers/killeds.- But hell, I can not ask :undecided:





errrzarrr added to this post, 1 minutes and 39 seconds later...



Good that everyone knows ;D

I'm pretty sure everyone was certain you didn't write your own name on the note.

[errrzarrr]

oh man! you keep pushing the same idea. who then? Trinity itself?

[Chimerical]

oh man! you keep pushing the same idea. who then? Trinity itself?

Why push a different idea as of now? To me this seems to be the most accurate.

Well if it wasn't me, you know I not a killer trying to frame you. If it's not you we know you're not trying to set up to look like someone was trying to frame you.

Right now I'm more convinced it was trinity and that you were the killer. You used the handwriting as a bluff. You wanted it to look like you were just doing good detective work and just didn't fall through. If a few people got tested negative and then you were cut off it gives you a reason to point the finger in a different direction. In this case away from me and you and at someone else.

This is what I think you're doing and my vote remains on you.





Chimerical added to this post, 8 minutes and 3 seconds later...

*sets up and automated response on his PC in case he dies.*
If I die my computer will send out a message with all the information I know about the case. I have things I haven't been saying in the open because I don't want the killers to know.

Here's hoping no one ever reads that message.

[azelismia]

woooooooooo ohhhhhhhhh (ghost of azelismia fades in)

I find this wording very strange..

Chimerical wrote: "Because it would be more entertaining to watch. Kinda like the circle link with the detectives. It's interesting to see if they'll all complete the link full circle and find out who's innocent and who isn't. When you're a mod you make the game so it's fun to watch."

notice when talking about the detectives he uses a tense that does not include him in the group. do tell us about this circle and if you're not in it how do you know about it?

[TheLastMohican]

woooooooooo ohhhhhhhhh (ghost of azelismia fades in)

I find this wording very strange..

Chimerical wrote: "Because it would be more entertaining to watch. Kinda like the circle link with the detectives. It's interesting to see if they'll all complete the link full circle and find out who's innocent and who isn't. When you're a mod you make the game so it's fun to watch."

notice when talking about the detectives he uses a tense that does not include him in the group. do tell us about this circle and if you're not in it how do you know about it?

[reprimand mode] Azelismia, get off this thread. I stated clearly in the rules you are not allowed to comment after you are dead. [/reprimand mode]

By the way, I talk that way about groups that I am included in often. It avoids the confusion caused when you say "we" all the time, since the person you are talking to might think you are including him in "we."

[azelismia]

[reprimand mode] Azelismia, get off this thread. I stated clearly in the rules you are not allowed to comment after you are dead. [/reprimand mode]

By the way, I talk that way about groups that I am included in often. It avoids the confusion caused when you say "we" all the time, since the person you are talking to might think you are including him in "we."

ATo view links or images in this forum your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *puppydog mode*

[errrzarrr]

edit: nevermind :P

[TheLastMohican]

ATo view links or images in this forum your post count must be 15 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *puppydog mode*

*Hurls azelismia's chew toy far away* Go fetch. By the time you get back, the game will be over.

[errrzarrr]

damn! Don't know who I am going to vote for!
:/





errrzarrr added to this post, 55 minutes and 42 seconds later...

My vote goes for Chimerical for president 08 - 12. I will change my vote to another person tomorrow at last minute. Is part of a strat.

[Marja]

I will vote Zirka.

That might change.

[Zirka]

Why me, Marja?

[RoyalINTJ]

I have alsolute proof that Chimerical is one of the moles.... so i cast my vote...

Anyone interested in those evidence can pm me and i ll provide them...

What i want you people to do is... vote for Chimerical and start thinking about who aslo involved....


I also got proof that ShaiGar has betrayed this police department and is working together with moles... So i would

I dont think i am going to live through next night so i want to point out that possible other moles are : mental drift and Marja tho i am not sure this is just a hunch... but i thought i must provide you with this information because i dont want to take it with me in grave...

[Chimerical]

woooooooooo ohhhhhhhhh (ghost of azelismia fades in)

I find this wording very strange..

Chimerical wrote: "Because it would be more entertaining to watch. Kinda like the circle link with the detectives. It's interesting to see if they'll all complete the link full circle and find out who's innocent and who isn't. When you're a mod you make the game so it's fun to watch."

notice when talking about the detectives he uses a tense that does not include him in the group. do tell us about this circle and if you're not in it how do you know about it?

Though this really isn't fair to have someone post AFTER THEY DIED!!!!!!!!!!, I'll have to answer anyway.

The circle is something of theory. Trinity was connected to me. She was told that I was a detective. Someone else was told she was a detective. I was told someone else is a detective [whom I will not say because that would give the killers an advantage].

Someone A. --> Trinity --> Me --> someone B. --> someone C. --> Someone A --> Trinity. This is what I think of the circle. It loops around and connects all the detectives.

If I state who I was told is a detective openly then the killers will try to sever the link so that it will never be completed and we'll all be left in the blue. Personally I didn't want to have to say any of this, but I have to in order to prove my innocence right now. Thanks a lot A.

Killers -1
Detective -0

On the other hand it's very possible the killers are dealing with the same shit. I'm hoping they are, cause then they'll be less organized and slightly confused. But all I can do is hope, since I don't have any legit info on how the killers are operating.

[Arcani]

Chimerical, the links have already been severed after the first night phase. I doubt the circle will be fully connected now because of that. Also we have to assume that the killers all know each other. To do any less is inviting disaster.

[Chimerical]

Chimerical, the links have already been severed after the first night phase. I doubt the circle will be fully connected now because of that. Also we have to assume that the killers all know each other. To do any less is inviting disaster.

Prepare as if they all know each other. But keep an open mind in case they don't.





Chimerical added to this post, 1 minutes and 43 seconds later...

I have alsolute proof that Chimerical is one of the moles.... so i cast my vote...

Anyone interested in those evidence can pm me and i ll provide them...

What i want you people to do is... vote for Chimerical and start thinking about who aslo involved....


I also got proof that ShaiGar has betrayed this police department and is working together with moles... So i would

I dont think i am going to live through next night so i want to point out that possible other moles are : mental drift and Marja tho i am not sure this is just a hunch... but i thought i must provide you with this information because i dont want to take it with me in grave...

What's this proof you have?

[ShaiGar]

I'm voting for RoyalINTJ on the basis that He has called me disloyal. I am many things, I'm an arsehole, a lecherous womaniser, a drunk, a sophist, and I've genocidal ambitions based on economics... I'm not a disloyal bastard.

It's agreed by all that I am a detective. Royal however is not agreed upon. I distrust anybody put into the game after the starting point.

[RoyalINTJ]

I havent figured out the rest of the mafia.. but i am sure that anyone who puts a vote on me is also one of the moles....

But dont worry... i ll figure others out soon enought... it doesnt matter if you vote me or not.. i gonna get you anyway

But nice try S... and i would like to correct you.... you were a detective.. you aint one now...

[Chimerical]

I havent figured out the rest of the mafia.. but i am sure that anyone who puts a vote on me is also one of the moles....

But dont worry... i ll figure others out soon enought... it doesnt matter if you vote me or not.. i gonna get you anyway

But nice try S

Well that's incriminating enough for me. You sound like you're trying to hide something now. I'm changing my vote to you. RoyalINTJ

[RoyalINTJ]

so you can change your votes huh? ohh well... it wont help you much till we have 7 detectives and 3 moles and one detective working for moles...

(btw are you allowed to change your vote? its pretty stupid i think...)

[ShaiGar]

Oi Guys... It's time for a little relaxation, Po Po style. *gets out the bong and stuffs it*
Heh, who's going to arrest us? I got it from the captains desk, aiiiii.

[Chimerical]

so you can change your votes huh? ohh well... it wont help you much till we have 7 detectives and 3 moles and one detective working for moles...

(btw are you allowed to change your vote? its pretty stupid i think...)

Yeah, you're allowed to change your vote. And my vote is on you. The killers could exchange weapons in the last game and maybe they can in this one too. You're acting like you're one of the killers now. You've been defective.

I'm just going off intuition mostly but I think you're acting really suspicious.

[RoyalINTJ]

Pretty weak m8... pretty weak...
Thing is.. i got proof which cannot be denied... so you go on telling your story but know this... no one is buying it...

Answering your question about proof... You know conversation we had... dont you?! well bad news for you that its is recorded... and i aint providing that record for you so you could destroy it...

[Chimerical]

I could easily fabricate "proof" that you're a killer. But I'm not going to do anything underhanded like that.

[RoyalINTJ]

Show me your best Chimerical... i bet you have already working on something...

[Chimerical]

I haven't. But I'm certain you're the killer. If I die this round It'll probably be you who killed me.

[RoyalINTJ]

You wont die this round... you gonna die next round when you ll be already in prison and executed...

[Chimerical]

Tough talk for a killer. I want to see this proof you have.

[RoyalINTJ]

Aint going to happen...

[ShaiGar]

*breathes out*
hehehehehhehe, wooaahhhh hehehe

[Zirka]

I'm voting off RoyalINTJ