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Uberfuhrer
05-02-2008, 07:58 PM
I just got back from seeing Iron Man, awesome movie.
Best Marvel movie since Spider-Man 2.
The effects were awesome, too, except for a few shots during the raid in the Afghanistan village (right around the sequence with the tank).
The film had an almost perfect balance of action, humor, drama, and effects. There was neither too much nor too little.
I'll hopefully type my full review tomorrow.
ShaiGar
05-02-2008, 08:21 PM
I have not liked him since Civil War.
Serket
05-02-2008, 08:58 PM
I saw Iron Man last night, not bad, but not fantastic. My brother loved it, he's going to see it again. I'll save the money. I thought Iron Man emerged from the Vietnam War, not because Middle Eastern terrorists kidnapped him in Afghanistan?
And wasn't Yinsen Asian?
the human iPod
05-02-2008, 09:20 PM
Well they obviously wanted to modify the story to fit in with modern times.
I also rather enjoyed the film, and it was a hell of a lot better than I thought it would be. Robert Downing Jr. did a superb job of playing Tony Stark, and his lines were among the wittiest I've heard in a while at the theaters.
The main gripe I have of the movie is that they really could have upgraded the music. There were certain instances that I wanted the sound BLARING but the audio failed to deliver to my expectations... all in all a great movie. I love the last bit.
Serket
05-02-2008, 10:28 PM
I just remembered what I loved about the movie:
Flamenwerfen!
I smiled broadly at that part.
My favourite WWI weapon. If I ever have to raid an allied trench, I will be using a flame thrower, just like when I used to play Halloween Harry....
*goes off to download that game*
xwalka
05-03-2008, 06:46 AM
I really enjoyed the movie, but I thought the villian came and went to fast. He had one little fight in the street and then he was done.
knock7
05-03-2008, 06:54 AM
I saw Iron Man last night. It was worth seeing. Acting was good across the board. It had funny moments and some good shots of the Armor. I would have liked to see more fight scenes and more of the Iron Man armor.
the human iPod
05-03-2008, 11:41 AM
I agree, more fight scenes where Iron Man had a worthy opponent would have been superb.
Anyone else realize that the Air Force guy (I forget his name, but he was best friends of Tony Stark) is going to take Tony's pre-Iron Man armor and become War Machine?
Avenger
05-03-2008, 12:47 PM
"Anyone else realize that the Air Force guy (I forget his name, but he was best friends of Tony Stark) is going to take Tony's pre-Iron Man armor and become War Machine?"
Yup.
"Not this time baby", or whatever he said.
The movie was pretty much a presentation for more Iron Man movies, which is a good thing.
onlyparallel
05-03-2008, 05:08 PM
"Anyone else realize that the Air Force guy (I forget his name, but he was best friends of Tony Stark) is going to take Tony's pre-Iron Man armor and become War Machine?"
Yup.
"Not this time baby", or whatever he said.
The movie was pretty much a presentation for more Iron Man movies, which is a good thing.
A very very good thing. I liked Iron man before the movie (though I was never entirely sure why he became a hero) but now I really love him. The acting was nice, the script was mostly well done, and I just generally love the concept.
Vortex
05-04-2008, 01:15 AM
It was decent. Ending was weak, in fact, the entire structure of the story felt uninspired. Close friend betrays you for more power. Yep, haven't seen that one before.
They continually confused his company with Lockheed Martin, which was annoying. The terrorists annoyed me even more, and the technical inconsistencies of the movie were pretty terrible (not Live Free Die Hard terrible at least.) Am I the only one unimpressed with the Jericho? Such a big deal, and its basically the cluster munitions used right now. You'd think they'd at least blow the mountain up or something with it.
If I were familiar with the comics, I'd probably like it more. Tony was a great character though, and you really have to like his style. He basically carried the entire movie.
Caramel
05-04-2008, 01:21 AM
Going to see the movie today. Will edit this post with opinions afterwards. =)
xwalka
05-04-2008, 03:49 AM
Am I the only one unimpressed with the Jericho? Such a big deal, and its basically the cluster munitions used right now. You'd think they'd at least blow the mountain up or something with it.
Yeah, I saw that and was decidedly uminpressed. I'd be much more frightened by the napalm they've been using for decades.
Uberfuhrer
05-04-2008, 02:23 PM
Well, I've partially discovered which effects companies worked on what in the film:
Industrial Light & Magic
Mark 3 Iron Man
Iron Man vs. Iron Monger
YF-22 encounter
Suit assembly
Pixel Liberation Front
Graphics and previsualization.
The Embassy
Mark 1 Iron Man
The Orphanage
Gulmira sequence
CafeFX
Not yet sure what they worked on
Stan Winston Studio
Practical suits
New Deal Studios
MiniaturesI'll try to find out more. But the next Cinefex can't come soon enough.
notoppings
05-04-2008, 03:44 PM
I grew up on Stan Lee's work and have always liked any adaptation of his characters, I always get a chuckle seeing him in his films kind of like Hitchcock or King. Iron man turned out better then I would have thought considering that they had to change the story in order to bring it into modern times. The special effects were good Downey did a great job of acting (thank god) anticipate future flicks.
TheLastMohican
05-04-2008, 08:50 PM
It ruled at the box office, too; an estimated three-day total of $101 million. That's the second-biggest opening for a series opener, behind Spider-Man.
DrEast
05-05-2008, 08:10 AM
Should I point out that Tony Stark, as portrayed in the movie, seems to be an INTJ? His advice to "stick to the plan" early on in the movie (don't want to spoil anything, but a more SPish type would probably say "don't be an idiot") seems to be very INTJish, as his general flat-footedness in the face of unexpected events (social awkwardness covered by characteristically INTJish sarcasm). He's certainly not an E (although the villain is, ESTJ at a guess).
Uberfuhrer
05-05-2008, 08:18 AM
I thought that Tony Stark was a quintessential example of an ENTP Inventor type. Tony Stark didn't seem that socially awkward, and he was also an attention whore and also mixes work with play.
DrEast
05-05-2008, 08:24 AM
I thought that Tony Stark was a quintessential example of an ENTP Inventor type.
Possible, but I don't think he's an E, and I know he's not an INTP or an ENTJ. Still, some kind of NT, anyway. (ENTP's universally seem "goofy" to me, which Stark doesn't, but he could be a darker-than-usual ENTP. I don't know many of them.) He also doesn't strike me as an attention whore, although his reclusion may be throwing me off. The character originally was based off of several real-life people, so he's not going to necessarily have a well-integrated personality. He could well be both.
Plus, he's such an asshole, and that's another INTJ giveaway.
As for socially awkward, I thought he most certainly was. It was one of his defining characteristics... the fact that he covered it with banter didn't take away that awkwardness. (It was a major factor in the Stark-Potts interaction, in fact.)
ShaiGar
05-05-2008, 08:29 AM
Yeah, I was going to say that Tony Stark of the movie seemed to be very much like me, but a few million times smarter. Tony Stark of the comics seems to be very much an ENTJ. The villain was more of an ESTJ, than an ENTJ. ENTJs would have had more originality and not said "oh noeess, we've alwais dun this, hao we maek profit else?", an ENTJ would have known that you can make profit doing a whole host of other things. The profit to be made from the electricity produced from the arc reactors anyone?
I didn't want to see another damn Marvel Movie where they butcher the character and story to make an explosion happy crapfest. I went to see it on the advice of a friend, and it now seems that Marvel has spent all that time making bad movies so that they can perfect this one. Awesome. Eighteen out of Twenty Shai's.
DrEast
05-05-2008, 08:32 AM
Yeah, I was going to say that Tony Stark of the movie seemed to be very much like me, but a few million times smarter. Tony Stark of the comics seems to be very much an ENTJ. The villain was more of an ESTJ, than an ENTJ. ENTJs would have had more originality and not said "oh noeess, we've alwais dun this, hao we maek profit else?", an ENTJ would have known that you can make profit doing a whole host of other things. The profit to be made from the electricity produced from the arc reactors anyone?
I didn't want to see another damn Marvel Movie where they butcher the character and story to make an explosion happy crapfest. I went to see it on the advice of a friend, and it now seems that Marvel has spent all that time making bad movies so that they can perfect this one. Awesome. Eighteen out of Twenty Shai's.
Interestingly, this was the first movie Marvel itself made (something I was wondering at the start was why there weren't any "universal" or "paramount" or whatever logos, just the quick flashing marvel one). Which may have something to do with the quality of the storytelling.
ShaiGar
05-05-2008, 08:42 AM
Plus, he's such an asshole, and that's another INTJ giveaway.
I have an ENTJ friend, and he's a complete arsehole. I think it's an NTJ thing rather than just an INTJ thing. He's a lot like tony stark, but not a science minded guy, more law minded. Also TS is a hell of a lot smarter.
ShaiGar added to this post, 8 minutes and 26 seconds later...
Interestingly, this was the first movie Marvel itself made (something I was wondering at the start was why there weren't any "universal" or "paramount" or whatever logos, just the quick flashing marvel one). Which may have something to do with the quality of the storytelling.
Ahh, I did not know that. I hope that Marvel remakes the rest of their movies... to be good. It certainly showed in the level of storytelling.
They say that IronMan was their only Major Hero not depicted in live action... What about Captain America? I'd love to see him done. Not as a retarded unthinking patriot either, but as the reflective patriot who fights for morality as well as old style US values.
The Opposite of IronMan.
Uberfuhrer
05-05-2008, 08:45 AM
Possible, but I don't think he's an E, and I know he's not an INTP or an ENTJ. Still, some kind of NT, anyway. (ENTP's universally seem "goofy" to me, which Stark doesn't, but he could be a darker-than-usual ENTP. I don't know many of them.)
I dunno, I think Tony Stark was extremely goofy and extroverted. And no two ENTPs are the same. But Stark's mindset was definitely ENTP and very oriented in the external world. He also had the ENTP superficiality that INTJs tend not to have -- Stark makes light of everything and is really bouncy, while the INTJ would be much more internal.
Stark is focused on the world of people and things, but he's a nonconformist, which leads him to be more awkward and eccentric. N-dominants are more likely to be awkward whether extroverted or introverted because of their nonconformity.
Also, an ExTJ would be more about commanding others to realize a personal vision (N) or maintain standards (S).
Ne is the most original type because they are focused on the external world and consciously nonconformist. Ni is less aware of being original to others and more interested in being true to a personal vision, regardless of how original it is to the external world.
DrEast
05-05-2008, 08:58 AM
They say that IronMan was their only Major Hero not depicted in live action... What about Captain America? I'd love to see him done. Not as a retarded unthinking patriot either, but as the reflective patriot who fights for morality as well as old style US values.
The Opposite of IronMan.
You did sit through the credits, right?
-------------------------------------------[SPOILER]
Samuel L. Jackson, as General Nick Fury, talking about the "Avenger Initiative?" Prepare to see Captain America bantering with Tony Stark in the near future, yes. But he did have a live action something or other a long, long time ago, I clearly recall. Can't remember if it was a TV show or just a movie being shown on TV.
ShaiGar
05-05-2008, 09:08 AM
Yup. I loved the fact that they had Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury. You can drop the General bit, there are thousands of generals, only one Fury.
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Who to play Captain America though... That's an extremely hard role to fill. You need to be able to look the part of Steve Rogers.
DrEast
05-05-2008, 09:10 AM
Who to play Captain America though... That's an extremely hard role to fill. You need to be able to look the part of Steve Rogers.
They got Robert Downey Jr. for Stark, and that was inspired. I've got no worries on that score.
FastDebrid
09-29-2011, 05:04 PM
I like the character of Tony Stark just because he is who he is.
Can't really put into words.
Oh, there. He does what he wants no matter what and he tries to be romantic for Pepper but she's just to busy with taking care of Stark industries and Tony.
And it's funny when he tries to make or find reason for his wrong actions just like in IRonman 2 when he bought Pepper strawberries without knowing that she's allergic to sdtrawberries. hahah!
But at the end of this all, I like Thor more! XD
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