So Ubuntu 7.10 is out...

[melon]

Ubuntu Linux 7.10, or "Gutsy Gibbon," was released today! Are there any other Ubuntu users here? If you don't know what Ubuntu is, you can read here (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), or just visit the website at To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I personally prefer the Kubuntu (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) variant.

I'll install it now and see how it goes...

[qwerty]

I might give it ago over the weekend.

Version 7 doesn't seem to like my 6800gt or my G7(which I've replaced), it's weird because they ran fine on 6.07.

[rwyatt365]

I'm planning on giving it a go this weekend.

[snoogit]

I personally like the Xubuntu edition, I've installed it on an older system of mine, and since we're still stuck with some pretty old P3 800s in the office, I've been trying to convince the powers that be to install it on those systems as well.

[HackerX]

I tried Kubuntu once... yuck, what a mess they made of it. Don't know if this latest version is any better, but they never quite got KDE sorted.

I am running openSuse 10.3 instead. Which is very polished

[ShaiGar]

downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 last night. i was constantly checking the page every 20 minutes waiting for the "00 days to go" to leave and the "download" to appear.

i'm installing it on my parents computer today, but i'm running OpenBSD. Look forward to checking out how it goes though, didnt get to see 7.04 in action

[MichaelH]

I'm running it on my work laptop now. Seems more responsive and flashier than 6.06. Time will tell as to its stability; I ran into a few bugs in 7.04 that forced me to downgrade. Free upgrades are supposed to be one of the big perks of linux, but it does take some time to get your desktop back in shape after a clean install. Go, Automatix, go!

[ShaiGar]

haha aye :( though that's why i like to keep an external shell with 3 or 4 empty large HDDs so that i can save my files before any install. and bookmarks. god i learnt that the hard way.

do you spend hours tweaking your menus so that you have all of the apps in the most logical format as well?

[MichaelH]

Heh, no menu tweaking here. I put the few apps I use in the menu bar and run with it.

Although now that you mention it, rearranging the apps would make them a lot easier to find...!

[melon]

Well, I got Kubuntu 7.10 up and running perfectly, and it works perfectly. It starts about three times than 7.04 did, and everything feels a bit more polished. Here are some screenshots of my customized desktop (click on them to enlarge):

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[chocky]

Sad.

We (well the computer expert of the house) just tried (spent three days!) updating from 6.06 to 7.10 via all the intermediates (should have tried clean install?) and woe reigns in this house tonight. Updates being uninstalled.

New version screwed up all the (partitioned) drives, couldn't even mount or access some... Ubuntu forum seemed to offer no advice.

I've been away three days to return to a grumpy webmaster and an OS on the operating table. Lucky we have an old windows machine in reserve, at least I can check emails, in a clunky akward way.

We run plain old Ubuntu, and are returning to 6.06 - anyone encountered difficulties with 7.10 or have any ideas?

[ShaiGar]

LinuxFormat.co.uk came out on the 18th, look for it in newsagencies and update from the LiveDVD. I installed 7.04 from a LiveDVD, and did an update, and upgrade to 7.10. took me all of 2 and a half hours after putting the Feisty DVD in to install.

[chocky]

Thanks. :)

Nipping out to the newsagent sure would save a lot of download time!

The resident webmaster is feeling just a little bruised at the moment regarding the whole ubuntu upgrade thing, if he can be pursuaded to give it another go (after respectful recovery time, of course) we'll get our hands on the live DVD.

Might complicate things that the machine is an older server with external DVD drive and recognition problems regarding usb. If the upgrade is in fact on a DVD and not a CD, the DVD drive will have to be physically relocated into the machine...

[ShaiGar]

isnt slackware best for older hardware?

[rwyatt365]

Got 7.10 installed yesterday (over Feisty Fawn) with no issues. All apps seem to be working just fine. One plus is that my scanner is working now (never could get it to work w/ Fawn).

So far, I'm a happy camper.

[chocky]

I'm told our hardware isn't that ancient (not that I'd know!), and it was running 6.06 pretty well. Just unexpectedly quitting gnome and conflicts with getting the sound to work sometimes, and a few other minor buggy things.

Webmaster prefers debian based linux over slackware... he's beginning to dig in his heels, one of these INTJs that can't handle change (unless of course it was his idea) ;)

OK, actually our time is stretched so thin that learning a different OS is daunting. (I don't personally know how different slackware is...)

[MichaelH]

I will verify that Ubuntu is sluggish on older hardware. We ran it on some Pentium-II machines for a computer class here, and it's best described as painful. Of course, you're getting a modern, loaded, 2007-level operating system on a Pentium-II; that's going to be painful no matter how you slice it.

As a webmaster, what does 7.10 offer you that 6.06 doesn't? They're both supported until the same time. As a desktop user, 7.10 feels like a significant advance, but for server-side stuff...?

[goatmeal]

MichaelH,

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They mention the Linux Terminal Server Project as a feature (really just a package they're including).
It seems to safe to say that the server-side edition mainly has more up-to-date/new packages, configuration and kernel... so, [mostly] nothing special.

[maai]

I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed on one of my alternate hard drives. I was involved in it's beta testing. One of these days I will sit and go thru the kernal, but right now it feels boring.

[chocky]

I will verify that Ubuntu is sluggish on older hardware. We ran it on some Pentium-II machines for a computer class here, and it's best described as painful. Of course, you're getting a modern, loaded, 2007-level operating system on a Pentium-II; that's going to be painful no matter how you slice it. *

As a webmaster, what does 7.10 offer you that 6.06 doesn't? They're both supported until the same time. As a desktop user, 7.10 feels like a significant advance, but for server-side stuff...?


The sad saga continues. I think webmaster is on the point of breakdown and doesn't want to take any advice.

Our machine has a Pentium III processor, I'm told it's known as "coppermine", but things were working well enough before. You're right, there's no reason for us to favour 7.10 over 6.06 - it weren't broke :(

Damn that human "shiny-new-thing" penchant.

[chocky]

Success!

Happy to report we're up and running 7.10

Webmaster finally found it was all a matter of one wrong number. Somewhere. I won't pretend to understand.

And all I lost were two corrupt files and a couple thousand emails with irreplaceable contact data and business/project queries from people who will wonder why I never replied... shit. That will teach me to write down things that really matter.

[ShaiGar]

damn right, business emails are for trivial things like fowarding pictures of kittens

[chocky]

;D

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[maai]

Just ran across this article. For this who use Ubuntu on their laptop.

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[greenmnm]

I just Booted Ubuntu on a separate 30 gig hard drive the other day. =)

[iamnotspock]

Melon,

Those screenshots rock. You did that in photoshop (or GIMP)?

I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 with GNOME and found out that RAID 1 has some serious flaws. As in, the array won't reboot after you replace a dead drive. Also, at first Firefox did not behave. But removing a few packages fixed that. Otherwise, I am happy with it, and like the clean GNOME interface. Thought I think they ask for your password way too many times.

[xhaan]

Hmm. Nice screenies.

Is it a stable release? Does it work better than Dapper? Does it come with compiz (or similiar, judging from the screen shots).

[BadMojo]

Let's see if it works better with ati cards this time. :)

[Aldanga]

I've been running Ubuntu since May. I received an old Gateway desktop from my grandfather. It contained a AMD K6/200 a 256 MB RAM. Gnome ran like a sloth. I've since built a PC, but I do have that sitting in my basement for future tinkering; but it's a pain to compile anything. It usually takes at least five minutes.

I installed Ubuntu 7.10 64-Bit fresh on my new build. I've had a few problems, but they were easily ratified.

Is it a stable release? Does it work better than Dapper? Does it come with compiz (or similiar, judging from the screen shots).
Yes, it comes with Compiz-Fusion, I believe. It works really well if you get all the tools installed correctly and don't forget to turn on 'window borders' and 'movable windows', which I found out the hard way. :irked:
Let's see if it works better with ati cards this time. :)
ATI just released new proprietary drivers. I'm still using the last set of drivers and they work fine. I'm running an IGP A690G board and have had few problems, aside from the expected tearing of frames. That makes it difficult to watch DVDs, but I can live with it.

[iamnotspock]

Aldanga,

Did you try damnsmalllinux on that Gateway? I just put it on an old 400 Mhz laptop and it works great.

[Aldanga]

No, I haven't put DSL on there... yet. I've been too consumed with other, more valuable pursuit in the last couple of months. In the summer I may get back to that.

One issue I have with that PC is internet access. We have only a wireless network in my house, so I had to get a wireless card. The one I got was an incompatible wifi card and I had to do a million things, including NDISwrapper, to get it to work. I don't feel like going through that for a third--yes, third--time. We shall see in the future.

[justintj]

I'm currently using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn on Pentium III-733 MHz. It works well, but a bit slow, compared to OpenSUSE 10.2 and Windows 2000 on my other Pentium III computers.

Do you guys/gals think it is worth it to upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10?