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Fej
04-22-2008, 05:35 PM
I just finished masturbating right now about 5 minutes ago. Did it 3 times. I've tried to stop but I always fail. I always end up watching porn and masturbating to it. I masturbate almost every day, several times a day since I was 10 years old. I always end up watching online porn and masturbating to it.

As some of you may already know(from other posts I've made) I am 18 years old, I am the guy whose a virgin, never touched a girl, never kissed, whose probably got a couple of personality and/or mental disorders, who is socially inept, whose got no friends and has never had any, who lacks verbal communication skills?, who sucks with people, who does not know how to start and keep a conversation, who is latino, who is ugly, who is pathetic. Plus other things I cannot think of at the moment.

Sometimes(like right now) I just lose all hope. When I feel like this(like 80% of the time) I just wish I could end my life, I guess I'm too pussy for that too. I see no point in living.

HeterodoxRobot
04-22-2008, 05:39 PM
I was a virgin when I was 18 and I've been masturbating since age ten too, lol, seriously.

Quit being so harsh on yourself.

And for what it is worth, I think Latino men can be incredibly sexy!!!! ;)

thod
04-22-2008, 05:45 PM
Why would you want to stop? Most men masturbate daily into their 30's (unless they have a partner). Its a case of use it or lose it, non ejaculators lose the capacity and it cuts prostrate cancer too.

One thing you will find is if you stop your behavior will alter. All that testosterone builds up. Once you get a girl its all change, you need to conserve that semen just to satisfy her, but married men still masturbate a lot too. Its nice to only have to please yourself for once.

Dreamer
04-22-2008, 05:57 PM
You need to take it easy on yourself. Lots and lots of people are in your situation. Social status and social skills are not what makes a good person.

As for masturbation, I have no idea! I've been trying to stop since I elementary school but have failed every attempt!

Fuchikoma
04-22-2008, 06:18 PM
Agree on the above, you are being too rough on youself, A LOT of people claim to be bad at conversation but that usually happens when you try to force it. dont do it, just let go, silence is not as uncomfortable as it may appear to you.

Uberfuhrer
04-22-2008, 06:30 PM
A sensible suggestion on how to stop masturbating: Get your fingers out of your pants and type a response to this message! ;)

errrzarrr
04-22-2008, 06:31 PM
join on the porn industry.

Uberfuhrer
04-22-2008, 06:35 PM
I actually find that I don't masturbate very much -- I grow automatically by fantasizing more often than not.

HeterodoxRobot
04-22-2008, 06:36 PM
A sensible suggestion on how to stop masturbating: Get your fingers out of your pants and type a response to this message! ;)And this is why I love Uber!!! ;D

Fej
04-22-2008, 06:38 PM
A sensible suggestion on how to stop masturbating: Get your fingers out of your pants and type a response to this message! ;)
done

Jack
04-22-2008, 06:54 PM
done

haha!... My mind is a little warped, don't mind me!

All of the above mentioned seems fairly normal to me, self-gratification helps to relieve stress, especially in the morning shower.

Just take it one day at a time!

Uberfuhrer
04-22-2008, 06:56 PM
All of the above mentioned seems fairly normal to me, self-gratification helps to relieve stress, especially in the morning shower.

"Look at me, jerking off in the shower. This will be the highpoint of my day, it's all downhill from here."

--Lester Burnham, American Beauty

Jgib5328
04-22-2008, 07:15 PM
Well the most logical solution is to get yourself neutered.

Obviously you have a oversized sex drive, this is just the reality of your situation. You can try to overcome it by being strong, or you can just embrace it. It's not that big of a deal and you are getting pleasure from it. If you really want to get over it, just try and find something better to do in your time. I find myself wanting food when I'm bored, even though I'm not hungry, but if I have something to do, I don't even think about food. So get a new hobby or interest.

Don't worry though, it takes a lot of masturbating to go blind. However, make sure to switch hands to minimize the hair growth on your palms.

malefide
04-22-2008, 07:25 PM
I'd recommend castration. Though there aren't many surgeons willing to do it without a medical basis these days.

Uberfuhrer
04-22-2008, 07:32 PM
I'd recommend castration. Though there aren't many surgeons willing to do it without a medical basis these days.

I wouldn't recommend it, though. Interests tend to change as you go through life. That's why I'm a pack rat and keep everything I have in storage -- my interest in it might spew its way up again (heh heh!).

vad1981
04-22-2008, 07:32 PM
I just finished masturbating right now about 5 minutes ago. Did it 3 times. I've tried to stop but I always fail. I always end up watching porn and masturbating to it. I masturbate almost every day, several times a day since I was 10 years old. I always end up watching online porn and masturbating to it.

As some of you may already know(from other posts I've made) I am 18 years old, I am the guy whose a virgin, never touched a girl, never kissed, whose probably got a couple of personality and/or mental disorders, who is socially inept, whose got no friends and has never had any, who lacks verbal communication skills?, who sucks with people, who does not know how to start and keep a conversation, who is latino, who is ugly, who is pathetic. Plus other things I cannot think of at the moment.

Sometimes(like right now) I just lose all hope. When I feel like this(like 80% of the time) I just wish I could end my life, I guess I'm too pussy for that too. I see no point in living.


I actually I think I got everyone here beat. I began masturbating at age 4 ( I remember getting caught) and have not stopped yet...despite being married, having a kid, working 80 hours a week, etc.

I got to admit though that when you do start having sex, the amount of masturbating (in my experience) does tend to go down...

Well that's about it...now I gotta go shave my palms again.

malefide
04-22-2008, 07:36 PM
I wouldn't recommend it, though. Interests tend to change as you go through life. That's why I'm a pack rat and keep everything I have in storage -- my interest in it might spew its way up again (heh heh!).

You know I'm kidding, right?

Uberfuhrer
04-22-2008, 07:38 PM
You know I'm kidding, right?

Yes I do. That post ended up being amongst my lamer attempts at humor...

malefide
04-22-2008, 07:42 PM
Yes I do. That post ended up being amongst my lamer attempts at humor...

That's okay...it just gave me some interesting mental imagery involving clutter in my house...

Americano
04-22-2008, 07:47 PM
For what it's worth, I'm 19 and I've never kissed a girl, and thus by default a virgin as well.

As for your concern, try to get into boxing or mma or something that requires a lot of aggression. Not only will you use up more testosterone, but if you take it seriously, it's beneficial to hold off on yourself when fights are coming up so that you can store extra testosterone in your body for more strength and aggression. I believe Ali lived by this principle.

Jgib5328
04-22-2008, 07:50 PM
You can buy a mail-ordered bride to vent your sexual frustrations on. Either that or a prostitute, but I think overtime the mail-ordered bride would be cheaper.

deepFlow
04-22-2008, 08:03 PM
Count me in as one of those married ones who still masturbs plenty-often, no less than before...

Probably if I got more sex (i.e., some) then I'd not masturb as much, simply because of life-logistics.

But even when the wife and I were gung-hose, I still filled in the cracks with a self-assist here and there and there.

Pays to be able to help oneself. Although I can understand misgivings about the porn. It can help the self-abuse, but it can also make you feel worthless at having used the energy in that fashion rather than channeling into obtaining some actual willing-vagina in meatspace.

Edit: And for the record, whilst I am married and experienced to a technical bare-minimum extent, my wife and I just sort of fell-together through the World Wide Innernette, and I never did receive the experience that would cause me to know how play partners are obtained and re-obtained for repeated enjoyments.

Honestly I'm still trying to figure that one out. Given that the wife says go forth and sow oats with blessings, but who wants to thresh with an owned-toad, even if he does have "permission"? (Maybe change "even" to "especially".... some shit never changeth.)

Shit now I'm depressed. Maybe I'm no help in this thread, after all.

Fej
04-22-2008, 08:10 PM
Pays to be able to help oneself. Although I can understand misgivings about the porn. It can help the self-abuse, but it can also make you feel worthless at having used the energy in that fashion rather than channeling into obtaining some actual willing-vagina in meatspace.

Yes I often feel like shit(I should say I feel even more so like shit, because I feel like shit most of the time) right after ejaculating to porn + gives me thoughts of not wanting to get a woman.

If I had actual sex with a woman I would probably feel the opposite. Happy, satisfied, etc.

xwalka
04-22-2008, 08:31 PM
The first kiss can be pretty intimidating. I was 25 before I had my first kiss and I had sex probably a week later. It gets easier. Here is a letter I wrote to my girlfriend before we were dating but the day after I had kissed her for the first time. Please note that it was rather intense and thus the letter contains some vulgarity to properly convey my state of mind; also, note that after this intense experience, everything started getting easier. Eventually you'll just have to jump into the pool and start adjusting to the water.

The Aforementioned Note
By Peter J. Spicer

So I realized last night as I was trying to sleep that my words to you were only mostly true. It is true that you were my first lip to lip kiss. Whether or not this was the farthest I’ve been with a girl is up to interpretation, however. Within the last year I have, on drunken occasion, allowed my hands to wander to a few willing breasts at parties; one such girl was the recipient of my affections upon her neck area with my lips and tongue. Of course, these were experiences that were all just in good fun and had no feeling or intention behind them. So was I just rounding the bases in the wrong order and you happen to be the first to receive my attentions in the proper escalating fashion, or should you, indeed, reign as the pinnacle? I’m going with the latter based on the fact that you were able to lure me into something (and more quickly) that I had previously resisted.

Now as to what was going through my mind; for your amusement. I turned my head around (I considered using the word wrenched due to the awkwardness of the position but figured I lacked sufficient speed or injury to justify such a virulent verb). As I turned a little bit more than I had previously that night I noticed something: your eyes were closed. The next two seconds in my mind went something like this:

Oh shit! Her eyes are closed. She’s waiting for me to move in and kiss her. How many times did I miss this tonight because I have terrible peripheral vision out of my right eye and couldn’t see her face well enough? God, I feel like an ass. Well, don’t move away again while she’s waiting. But…. Calculate! Does the situation live up to first kiss standards? Greg and Lindsay are right over there. Will they notice? Will they say something? I wouldn’t be surprised if either one of them made some jackass comment toward me. Should I be alone for the first? We are watching Rat Race. Is that an acceptable leisure activity, or will I regret that I was watching an admittedly hilarious comedy? What time is it? Like four in the morning, I guess that’s ok. The couch has really annoying dividers between the cushions which prevent me from getting closer and I’m at a really strange angle. Can I even reach her from here? Fuck. What do I do? Should I turn around, or will those damn dividers be even more in the way. God damn it she’s waiting. Don’t fuck it up. Is this worthy? I like her. What does she think of me? What will she think of me if I turned around again? My lips are chapped and my chapstick is in my pocket (here came a quick licking of the lips). What if I really suck? I probably will. Damn. Maybe I should have kissed some of those other girls just to figure the whole thing out. Move in. (At this point, about one second since I noticed the eyes closed, I moved in closer). Hold up. How do I do this? My neck is all stretched funny. I have almost no mobility or malleability in my mouth from this position. God I’m doomed to failure. I haven’t decided if we could work. She’s the only one you’ve really considered; you can’t just walk away from that. Not finishing now would kill that chance for sure. You’ll regret and wonder forever. You like her, she seems to like you at least a little. This is worthy, stop holding out and wasting life. Go for it. Stop thinking. Wait, do I use my tongue? Yes. No Yes….. (This is where the kiss started). She didn’t, so obviously no. The movie Hitch said some odd percent of women feel that the first kiss tells them everything they need to know about a man. I’m fucked. Well, there is her tongue now. That felt nice. Try again. Wait you don’t know what you are doing. You didn’t jilt her, but you aren’t prepared for more yet. Think before you start again. Retreat! (Here the kiss ended) She must think I’m fucking retarded. Well, I tried. Say something. (This is where I whispered “I have no idea what I’m doing” and you didn’t understand what I said).

Well, there you have it. I won’t even attempt to go over the rest of the night. Those two seconds were intense enough. 

enfpchick
04-22-2008, 08:34 PM
Look what i found on yahoo:
I hope this helps :p

Masturbation may prevent prostate cancer

Mon Apr 21, 7:32 PM ET

SUMMARY: Researchers find that men who masturbate frequently are at a reduced risk of cancer.


Frequent masturbation may help men cut their risk of contracting prostate cancer, Australian researchers have found. It is believed that carcinogens may build up in the prostate if men do not ejaculate regularly, BBC News reported on Wednesday. The researchers surveyed more than 1,000 men who had developed prostate cancer, and 1,250 men who had not. They found that men who had ejaculated the most between the ages of 20 and 50 were the least likely to get cancer. Men who ejaculated more than five times each week were a third less likely to develop prostate cancer.

Sexual intercourse may not have the same effect because of the higher risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease, which could in turn raise the risk of cancer. "Had we been able to remove ejaculations associated with sexual intercourse, there should have been an even stronger protective effect of ejaculations," Graham Giles of the Cancer Council Victoria, who led the researchers, said in the article.

The prostate produces a fluid that is incorporated into ejaculation, which activates sperm and prevents them from sticking together. Studies on animals have shown that carcinogens like 3-methylchloranthrene can be harbored in the prostate. Frequent ejaculation encourages the cancer-inducing fluids to "flush out." (The Advocate)
If you'd like to know more, you can find stories related to Masturbation may prevent prostate cancer .

ShaiGar
04-22-2008, 08:47 PM
I construct fantasies in my head.

I don't think you can stop masturbating, so just have some fun with it. Try and beat my record of 5 times in 2 hours. Everyone does it, just don't tell every person on the street and you'll be fine.

Fej
04-22-2008, 08:58 PM
xwalka I'll read your post tomorrow, its a little too long.





Fej added to this post, 1 minutes and 36 seconds later...

I construct fantasies in my head.

Try and beat my record of 5 times in 2 hours.
Are you serious? I usually masturbate 5 times in 10-15 minutes.

ShaiGar
04-23-2008, 12:40 AM
hnnh, i normally take a while though, i must be getting desensitized.

vaguely dissatisfied
04-23-2008, 04:37 AM
Masturbating is normal and there is no need to stop unless it is interfering with your life in some way.

You sound like you suffer from very low self-esteem. The only real way to deal with this is to either start reading self-help books and finding out how you can raise your self-esteem or to seek proffessional help. You may also want to look into diet, exercise, and natural supplements to help you along the way. You should decide that you are going to find a way out of this feeling, devise a plan to do it, and then act on that plan.

thod
04-23-2008, 04:49 AM
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rwyatt365
04-23-2008, 07:51 AM
You don't have to stop, but you might want to pace yourself - you're gonna rub yourself raw at the rate you're going, and that ain't fun. Masturbation is something that (virtually) everyone does and (virtually) anyone that says they don't or haven't is lying to you (and to themselves).

If you're 18, and healthy then your hormones are in overdrive and your body needs to release that tension - masturbation is the solution if you don't have a partner. But even having an available partner is not going to gaurantee that you won't masturbate. I've heard that the average male thinks of something sexually stimulating every <fill in the blank> seconds. Now ladies, even at your horniest, could you keep up with that kind of constant demand?

ShaiGar
04-23-2008, 07:57 AM
I know one in Byron Bay who could... She's an ENTP though. They suck.

Mafiaangel180
04-23-2008, 08:02 AM
How do you stop masturbating? My first reaction was...is this a joke?? Brother why would you want to stop?? I could see if it interfered with your daily living, such as shitting yourself because you are too busy with masturbating to make it to the toliet. Or you can't go to school because you masturba....wait. I always told myself if I had a penis I wouldn't even go to school. So yeah...nevermind about that. Anyway, you get the picture. Just don't let it interfere with things. And don't do it so much that you start to bleed, I know a few guys guilty of that. And lots of people are virgins at 18. Don't let it get you down.

melon
04-23-2008, 10:12 AM
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Mozzes
04-23-2008, 10:16 AM
As long as you've got functioning testicles you will never stop masturbating and as long as you've got functioning testicles you will not stop thinking about women(or men or both, whatever your preference) and sex 99% of the time.

Hell, as far as I can tell even most females masturbate regularly, if not daily.

That being said, most psychologists will say that thoughts of guilt and/or shame following a sexual act is unhealthy. If that's how you feel you might want to talk to someone about it.

Aronnax
04-23-2008, 11:23 AM
There's nothing to feel guilty about, you're basically scratching an itch. Avoiding a good scratch will just make it worse.

Regarding the rest of the stuff: Start an exercise program and stick to it. Exercise make your brain release dopamine (your natural "happy" chemical) and a higher level of personal fitness elevates your baseline dopamine level. Exercise also makes you more attractive. Having a good body makes you feel better about yourself and makes it easier to attract a girl.

Socializing isn't easy for most of the folks on this board (I know it's not easy for me). What I've found useful is to join clubs that interest you and force yourself to talk to other people when you go. It's not easy but I've discovered that lots of people tend to be shy, it's not just you. Find the folks standing off by themselves, introduce yourself, let them know you're new and ask them a question about themselves or the group.

The common interest within the club will give you something to talk about and remember to make use of reflective/leading questions. This gets the other person to do most of the speaking and most people like to talk about themselves anyways. If there's a long lull in the conversation tell them it was nice speaking with them, use their name when you say good by and go talk with another person. Remember the person's name and something they told you about themselves. Make a note of it if necessary and remember to greet them by name the next time you see them.

DrEast
04-23-2008, 01:01 PM
While we're giving tips, make sure you change your sheets regularly. It's just healthy anyway.

Brendan
04-23-2008, 03:49 PM
well, here there is always the "catholic concern", where many people (most often catholics, but many protestants as well) view masturbation as being a sin (I think it is a venial sin though, not a mortal sin, or otherwise there are a lot of overburdened priests or youths with a not very good future outlook...).

of course, I ended up reading the bible enough to come to a very different conclusion:
the kind of moral absolutism common within catholicism, and much of protestantism, is incorrect (the belief in absolute morality, that sins either help or harm us in the path to redemption, is equivalent to the kind of legalism so condemned in the NT).

in-fact, I believe, the system itself is based on a kind of moral nihilism, however, there are still plenty of good reasons to strive for a moral lifestyle, in fact, it is obligatory in a way, however, this lifestyle is based on self-improvement and being helpful to others, not on traditions or obedience to esoteric rules (going into the specifics would be a lot harder).

so, as for the topic at hand, the issue is not, how to stop, but to identify why it is done:
if it is an overactive libido, that is one thing.
if it is a stress response, that is another.

if it is a stress response, then it may be better to look into identifying the cause for the stress, and then look into some ways to improve the situation. if the response would seem to be "it can't be done", then try harder (chances are, this world can tolerate one being far more of a demanding jerk than even thought possible...).

for example, a person may find that they are someone rather different than even they would have really believed. I spent my whole life being quiet and nice to people, oddly enough to find that I am a lot more comfortable, and good-feeling, being sociable and argumentative (one may still have to keep this moderated a little though...).

DrEast
04-23-2008, 03:52 PM
There are two ways masturbation could be viewed as a sin coming out of scripture.

First, it's included in the catch-all "sexual immorality," but in places where that's expanded it's never even mentioned. The only place masturbation is directly mentioned in scripture is when a few jewish brothers all use it to get out of consummating their marriage to their brother's widow, and thus ducking out of their obligations to support her, as well as violating the law. In that case I think they all get leprosy, but I don't think it's the act of masturbating itself that's wrong there.

Secondly, Jesus did tell us that every time we look at a woman and think, "I'd hit that," that's sinful too. But that, I think, was mainly him driving home how thoroughly useless the Law was as a measure of salvation (as opposed to condemnation). Still, worth considering for the more Biblical INTJ.

Phrixos
04-23-2008, 03:55 PM
Dude,

You got to stop thinking about other people. Start using them. They are your resources. You're socially inept? So I take it you fuck up socially, that's FINE!!! as long as you learn something on how to improve those skills.

Relax man, its coo.

:thumbsup:

Put the dick down!

Jakalwarrior
04-23-2008, 05:04 PM
I also noticed that I would go through cycles of "I needs me some pron!" download download download download. Watch it, whack it. then.... "OMG this crap is nasty, sex is nasty, women bleh" Delete, delete, delete, delete.
12 hours later... damnit why did I delete all my good stuff....

The feeling of uninterest after sex is totally normal.


As for going at it too much, as long as it doesnt get in the way of what you need to accomplish in life, there is nothing wrong with it. Even in a relationship you better whack it every now and then because you are NOT going to get it every day (I discovered this part of married life the hard way), you may not even get it every week. Do you know how long you will last if you havent had it in a week? and you darn well better make a good performance or it might be another 2 weeks before you get any more! so think ahead and proactively whack lol.

Hmm... wish there was a way I could mask my screen name on this reply..... :embarassed:

Fej
04-23-2008, 05:09 PM
I also noticed that I would go through cycles of "I needs me some pron!" download download download download. Watch it, whack it. then.... "OMG this crap is nasty, sex is nasty, women bleh" Delete, delete, delete, delete.
12 hours later... damnit why did I delete all my good stuff....


HAHA, I am exactly the same way. Anyway, here I go again... :( Gonna close my room.

Jakalwarrior
04-23-2008, 06:45 PM
HAHA, I am exactly the same way. Anyway, here I go again... :( Gonna close my room.

Just remember, if a woman has the same effect on you, probably should replace her. :thumbsup:

Fej
04-23-2008, 06:49 PM
I'll keep that in mind. :)

Hopefully I get one soon, a good looking one. The question is, how? Since I don't know how to approach, as I have no social skills.

Mittens
04-23-2008, 07:31 PM
I'll keep that in mind. :)

Hopefully I get one soon, a good looking one. The question is, how? Since I don't know how to approach, as I have no social skills.

This is really cliche advice, but do you have any kind of hobby/organized activity you could get involved in? Preferably one that attracts a lot of females? Could you join a knitting group?
You could also try observing other people, how they get together/flirt.
Do you have any girls you're currently interested in? Could you make them a mixtape or something?
Get really drunk? Alcohol gives some people the magical ability to flirt.
Be polite. Hold open doors, smile and make eye contact while doing so. Help pick someone's stuff up if they drop it.
Hang out in a coffee store or a book store and slip a pretty girl a nice note with your number. You could even try talking to her if she's a reading a book you've read/always wanted to read/know something about/don't know anything about, if you're brave enough.

That's all I've got right now.

futureperfect5
04-23-2008, 07:40 PM
Ordinarily I would have no information or opinion to give ...
as luck would have it (I guess this is meant for you), on the commute today I heard that this -- activity -- will help you to avoid, as a male, prostate cancer. :thumbsup:

[No mention of whether -- the activity -- helps or hurts the female.]


"...I just finished masturbating right now ..."

SeaCzar
04-23-2008, 08:37 PM
I'd do it in public if I could get away with it.

True Rune
04-23-2008, 09:56 PM
Think of your parents...doing it? I don't know, I don't masturbate. Never really did.

MrEPenguin
04-23-2008, 10:02 PM
It takes about 30 days to get a new habit or stop an old one. If you want to stop, you'll have to get on a routine.

zibber
04-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Man, is that an INTJ thing? Unrelenting guilt about masturbation? I had very similar thoughts at the thread starter's age. Maybe it's a general thing. It seems like there's a huge social taboo on masturbation even though everyone and their momma does it. I luckily passed my phase of wanting to "stop", and now I realize how insane that wish is. It's not dirty, and you're not pathetic.

Vivid
04-24-2008, 01:47 AM
I wouldn't know about how to stop masturbating, but I have found that learning helps build self esteem. Find a good book and some subjects of interest. That's one suggest amongst many other ideas.

Mozzes
04-24-2008, 08:36 AM
I'll keep that in mind. :)

Hopefully I get one soon, a good looking one. The question is, how? Since I don't know how to approach, as I have no social skills.

As with any skill you only improve through practice. If you find the idea of approaching a stranger and initiating conversation to be completely unbareable then put yourself in a social setting. Find people that share a common interest.

If you're in school join a student org that you find interesting. If you're in college do intramurals. It's a great way to get exercise and meet people.

mental drift
04-24-2008, 10:34 AM
Yea use to masturbate a lot more, now that I'm married not as much, I usually have sex with the wife about once a week (maybe I should consider the prostate info). But I did ask myself the other day, what's the difference between masturbating and having sex with the misses when she just lays there for me to get it? The only answer I could figure was a softer target (the hand really is not gentle). Don't know if that helped any, all I'm saying is don't feel guilty.

aude
04-24-2008, 02:05 PM
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1. Never touch the intimate parts of your body except during normal washing and using the bathroom.

2. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company, especially when you are feeling particularly weak.

3. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, YOU MUST BREAK OFF THEIR FRIENDSHIP. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don't suppose that two of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind. The problem must be taken OUT OF YOUR MIND for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things.

4. After you bathe, don't admire yourself in the mirror. Stay in the shower just long enough to clean yourself. Then dry off and GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM into a room where you will have some member of your family present.

5. When in bed (especially if that is where you masturbate), wear pajamas or other clothes so that you cannot easily touch yourself (and so that it would be difficult to remove those clothes. The time it takes to remove your clothing gives additional time to controll your thinking and overcome the temptation).

6. If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, GET OUT OF BED! Go into the kitchen and make a snack, even if it is in the middle of the night, and even if you are not hungry. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you GET YOUR MIND ON SOMETHING ELSE. You are the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.

7. Never look at pornography on the internet or elsewhere. Never read about your problem (even on sites claiming to be "educational"). Keep it out of mind. Remember -- "First a thought, then an act." The thought pattern must be changed. You must not allow this problem to remain in your mind. When you accomplish that, you soon will be free of the act.

8. Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books, scriptures, talks of church leaders. Make a daily habit of reading at least one chapter of Scripture, preferably from one of the four Gospels in the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon. The four Gospels -- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John -- above anything else in the Bible can be helpful because of their uplifting qualities.

9. Pray. But when you pray, don't pray about this problem, for that will tend to keep it in your mind more than ever. Pray for faith, pray for understanding of the Scriptures, pray for members of your family who need help. Pray for your friends, BUT KEEP THE PROBLEM OUT OF YOUR MIND BY NOT MENTIONING IT EVEN IN YOUR PRAYERS. KEEP IT OUT of your mind! The attitude of a person toward his problem has an affect on how easy it is to overcome. It is essential that a firm commitment be made to control the habit. As a person understands his reasons for the behavior, and is sensitive to the conditions or situations that may trigger a desire for the act, he develops the power to control it.





aude added to this post, 1 minutes and 22 seconds later...

I had to put that out. :) Masturbation is good for the body. Don't worry about excessive amount of masturbation.

Chainsaw Dundee
04-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Easy. Try my one step program.


Glue your hands to any place except for your genitals.

lordrrr
04-24-2008, 07:41 PM
I too can have problems with masterbation, though nothing serious. My problem is I can go 15-30 days without masterbating or even finding it fun, then I'll slip up and for a couple of days be masterbation crazy, then stop for another 15-30 days and the cycle repeats itself. I'm trying so hard to break the cycle but sometimes it's unbearable.


Another thing I find different about me is that I don't like porn at all under any circumstances. I very much prefer my imagination, and I can't whack off to porn or I'll feel dirty.


My advice is to find other activities, of course. Even if it just means playing games (not sexual ones!) or reading books, it's still an activity. Be very involved in what you are doing and convince yourself that masterbation is a terrible thing. Perhaps thinking to yourself "If I masterbate, my dick will explode" will help. Also, one of the most unsexiest things I find doing is volunteering at the senior home, so maybe if you volunteer for something that can help take your mind of sex. Especially a place that is depressing, like a senior home or a hospital, and you realize that there are things way more important than your sexual desires.

Hope this all helps, and like people say, don't freak out about it. You should still try to curb it though. One last suggestion, see if you can, for one week, limit yourself to twice a day, then for a week after that, limit yourself to once a day. Then limit yourself to six days (one time each) a week and none at all on one of the six days. Continue until you have stopped.

Good luck.





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Oh and latinos arn't ugly. Look at Ricky Martin. Girls are like, crazy for him or something.

Aronnax
04-24-2008, 07:55 PM
It takes about 30 days to get a new habit or stop an old one. If you want to stop, you'll have to get on a routine.

Biological drives aren't a behavioral habit.

Fej
04-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Thanks for everyone's support. I think what I need to do is try to be more positive. I am a very negative person.

Jakalwarrior
04-24-2008, 08:38 PM
Yea use to masturbate a lot more, now that I'm married not as much, I usually have sex with the wife about once a week (maybe I should consider the prostate info). But I did ask myself the other day, what's the difference between masturbating and having sex with the misses when she just lays there for me to get it?.

More exercise?

notoppings
04-24-2008, 11:12 PM
You don't. You are cursed to spank the monkey for the rest of your life or till you grow impotent. On the bright side maybe you'll get lucky and get alzheimers and forget what to do with it, but will remember all that you did with it. Enjoy it while you can because you'll miss it when you can't.

MrEPenguin
04-25-2008, 01:09 AM
Biological drives aren't a behavioral habit.

It can be a psychological habit that is reinforced by the behavior.

Fej
04-25-2008, 05:32 AM
One of the biggest problems I have is that I am putting the pussy on a pedestal(great quote from the 40-year-old virgin movie lol).

Ace1337
04-25-2008, 05:38 AM
I masturbate once or twice every week. It comes spontaneously, sometimes I don't masturbate for two weeks, but sometimes I do it 3 times in one day. I don't like to masturbate more than two times in a day, because it doesn't give you that much pleasure, as masturbating after a pause of two weeks.
The only thing I feel guilty about is that I'm 19 and still a virgin. Masturbation is like everything else, do it in moderation and it's great.

ps xwalka, crazy letter :D I think I'm going to have a similar experience, I've had it many times in my daydreams. I probably couldn't be a worse kisser than some people even if I tried, but I have a fear of that. Sometimes I see people kissing that really don't know how to kiss, that makes me feel better.

thod
04-25-2008, 06:52 AM
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The logo, as it was meant to be seen, rather than at a 90 degree angle
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Motor Jax
04-25-2008, 06:54 AM
HA HA HA!

lol ^

rwyatt365
04-25-2008, 09:23 AM
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Priceless! Almost as good as Chevrolet's mis-cue selling the Nova in Mexico. ("No Va" = "Doesn't Go" for the Spanish-impaired).

eclecticjoker
04-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Maybe your guilt stems from the porn, not the masturbation. Perhaps you should try erotic fiction instead?

I hear guys are hopelessly bound to visual stimulation, but if you'd feel less guilty whacking off to writing rather than icky sweaty gooey people bouncing around, maybe you should try it.

(Yes, I am biased against yucky slappy smooshy porn.)

But really, I'm a horrible person to give masturbation advice. My attempts at self-satisfaction are few and very far between. :P

Follow
04-26-2008, 02:51 PM
What is causing you to feel guilty or find a "solution" to stop? People generally don't feel guilty about masturbation without some sort of outside influence. When I first began, I had no idea that it was some sort of sin and my teacher (I was going to a Lutheran school at the time) didn't tell me even though she knew it was going on. It wasn't until later that I found out it was a sin, actually after I no longer cared if it was or wasn't. But either way, I've never had any guilt from masturbation.

So I think the first thing to do is figure out what is causing your guilt and address that issue.

Second, the feelings of not wanting women or feeling less attracted to them after masturbation is entirely normal. Remember, our brains work on chemical reactions and they depend on what chemicals are in your body to cause those reactions. When you masturbate, you release a good deal of testosterone which reduces your sexual drive and naturally causes you to lose some or all of your sexual desire. It's completely normal.

It seems like you feel sex with a partner is necessary, while masturbation is unhealthy. At your age, it's better to masturbate (however often you like) than have sex with an actual partner. There are too many kids who were obviously too young to have sex who have done it and ruined their lives by having a child too early, not to mention ruining the child's life as well in the process. The first time I had sex was when I was 18, and looking back on it now, I wish I hadn't. It was stupid of me to do it, it was more stupid of me to do it without any form of protection or birth control, but I was too naive at the time to do it another way.

I count myself fortunate that I was socially inept and never had girlfriends through school because I am now child free and have not had to make any difficult decisions regarding consequences of my childhood indiscretions. I was (and in many ways still am) socially inept as well. Over the years, you learn how to get what you want despite your social challenges. I don't have a problem anymore finding partners when I need them, but it certainly doesn't stop me masturbating either, nor would I want it to.

Masturbation is a healthy release of testosterone, not to mention a place and a time where you can explore all of your sexual fantasies without fear of judgment from another party. Enjoy yourself, explore your fantasies and your sexuality. Don't feel like you're wasting time, because as of now, you're not. With masturbation you are free from potentially life changing errors and you can satisfy your urges in the process.

changos
04-26-2008, 08:34 PM
Stop masturbating? I think don't stop

I've been there, I talk, I read, I learn... blah, you know I have a lot of info related to this... read it carefully and don't push yourself.

You are at your peak
The sexual life becomes almost a natural obligation in different ages for everyone. You might be just starting or at the middle of your "I-can-have-sex-all-day" phase. Relax, is nature. If it last until you are 50 then worry about it :)

Too much tension
Masturbation comes from diff reasons, we man, and we thinkers usually come across masturbation for stress, tension and even some kind of depression (having a partner). REad about this on the next point.

Depression-tension-stress (with a partner
There are reports :) about intjs masturbating instead of having sex with their partners. I came across this on another forum long time ago (a wife complaining about this). I've been there to... having a girlfriend and a lot of sex I came into this phase where I rather masturbate... there was a lot of tension between us and even the sex was good, sometimes it didn't have anything to do with desire (the masturbation) only as a manifestation of stress and a natural need for the natural chemicals that relax your body.

Boredom
Masturbation could mean boredom in different areas or several

Sports? be careful
Sports are great, no doubt... but they often increase your sex drive. Specially extreme sports (depending on your TYPE OF PERSON).

More on extreme sports...
I tried that, I love them. I also notice my sex drive increasing from time to time. It depends... Sports that involve fear or mental tension stimulate your testicles producing growth hormones and some others related to your sex drive (from a book of a medic expert in extreme sports).

BUT, depending on you and your sport (trust me, don't laugh) you might replace sex with extreme sports... visit rockclimbing.com, there are lots of people stating this, also, experts on the field talk about extreme sports producing an adrenaline rush (and some other chemicals) including deep relaxation that compares to the orgasm. At rockclimbing you will find people stating that it is better than sex.

I close my long testament with this:
Usually we seek the relaxation, the moment where we fuse ourselves with the universe... stopping time. That is causes and achieved by the orgasm or deep-strong experiences at extreme sports.

My guess is.. as you approach more and more girls you might see an additional increase and then getting use to :)

Fej
04-26-2008, 09:57 PM
My guess is.. as you approach more and more girls you might see an additional increase and then getting use to :)

I might see an additional increase of what?

changos
04-26-2008, 11:11 PM
I might see an additional increase of what?
Of sexual desire... You mentioned certain circumstances I am the guy whose a virgin, never touched a girl, never kissed So as you approach to girls you might see a strong sexual desire and by approaching I mean getting close to them. So you might masturbate remembering or fantasying about them. But as any other stimulus, the repetition takes you to getting used to. Masturbation could be just anxiety of getting to know, talk and kiss girls.

zibber
04-27-2008, 12:49 AM
having sex with the misses when she just lays there for me to get it?

Sounds like masturbation to me..

schwartzie
04-27-2008, 01:14 AM
The first kiss can be pretty intimidating. I was 25 before I had my first kiss and I had sex probably a week later. It gets easier. Here is a letter I wrote to my girlfriend...the day after I had kissed her for the first time. ...
So I realized last night as I was trying to sleep that... etc. etc. ... and you didn’t understand what I said).

Well, there you have it. I won’t even attempt to go over the rest of the night. Those two seconds were intense enough. 

This is classic. What a great letter! Undoubtedly there's a connection between the two bolded parts above.

fonmaneal
04-27-2008, 02:51 PM
Stop Masturbating? What is it dinner time?

There is no reason to feel anything but pleasure, for a job well done.

You just need to learn how to type one-handed.

I do it thinking how sexy I am doing it:)

capricornintj
04-27-2008, 07:59 PM
Agree with HeterodoxRobot -- you are being too harsh on yourself. Ignore the castration comments, logical, but completely bad advice.

So what if you masturbate and are still a virgin? As long as you aren't hurting anyone and doing it the privacy of your own home, why stop? It doesn't make you less of a decent person. And don't worry about being a virgin. Kids are having sex at too young an age these days anyway. I was one until my 21st birthday. BTW, speaking from experience, alcohol and horny is very bad combination. Avoid it if you can.

The bigger question is why does masturbation make you feel so ashamed?

Fej
04-27-2008, 08:13 PM
It doesn't make me feel ashamed. I just feel like crap after I do it. Plus I've heard if you do it too much it makes you weak. Kinda too late for me, being doing it every day since the past 8 years.

sriv
04-27-2008, 08:17 PM
Damn, you need to do something with your life. Play some paper mario, Jk.
If you do it that much, I can understand why you have a confidence issue. Find other ways of having fun, go outdoors, and socialize (yes you can't avoid it).
Have you seriously done it every day?

Fej
04-27-2008, 08:31 PM
Yes, almost every day. For the past 8 years.

I'm such a screwed up person, I should find a way to die. I'm tired of me.

sriv
04-27-2008, 08:36 PM
What!?!? Suicide is not the answer and never the answer.

Do you have a family? Spend some more time with them. Spend some more time on these forums.

You should post a blog about the complexity of your situation in the members section. Pour out all the details. Worries, troubles, problems, status. We can help more if you do that.

Fej
04-27-2008, 08:38 PM
Thank you, I'll do that if things don't get better.

PRBori
04-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Hmm... I personally do not masturbate at all, I don't think is possible as a women anyway... besides from what I've heard that some women use FAKE things... I don't think so... I'll just as happy to wait until the time is right even if it takes years than to get into such habit..

But nevertheless I don't think masturbating as a men is a bad thing... on the contrary it has it's benefits.. here are some

Sexual benefits


Some of the known sexual health benefits of masturbation include:
Solo masturbation is a safe sex practice that carries no risk of sexually transmitted infection and unwanted pregnancy. As part of lovemaking between two people, it is known as ‘mutual masturbation’.
Sexual tension is released. Masturbation allows a person to express their sexuality by themselves and is valuable if, for example, they don’t have a partner or if sex with their partner isn’t available, or if they want to (or have to) abstain from sex for any reason.
Being familiar with your own sexual responses allows you to better communicate your wants and needs to your partner.
Masturbation is a popular treatment for sexual dysfunction; for example, women who don’t orgasm can learn by masturbating. Men who suffer from premature ejaculation can use masturbation to practice control.


Health benefits


Some of the known health benefits of masturbation include:
Eases some of the symptoms of premenstrual syndrome
Relief from menstrual cramps
Muscle relaxation
Helps you to fall asleep
Promotes release of the brain’s opioid-like neurotransmitters (endorphins), which cause feelings of physical and mental wellbeing
Reduces stress
Enhances self-esteem.


I know it has helped some one close to me stay put... and that to me is important for we are away from each other for 3+ months at the time and I'm certainly not going to be with someone who's out with other women for HEALTH reasons...so if masturbating helps.. then let it be..

So my advice to you, don't be ashamed of it... specially if you're single. When the right women comes along,put it to better use...

I'm sure that once you marry that will certainly change, except maybe during pregnancy.. although women tend to react differently, I had no issues with being intimate during that time, on the contrary it was necessary but not all women are the same, some don't want anything at all...

:p

Big Grizzle
04-27-2008, 09:52 PM
Thank you, I'll do that if things don't get better.

If you are not happy with the way things are put that INTJ strategic planning mind to use. For example take up a new hobby/job that involves working with other people. It's a lot easier to keep a conversation going if you and the other person have a common/vested interest in something.

You create your life by the decisions you make. Instead of feeling down take responsibility for your situation and change it.

Are you sure you are not INTP? You seem to have a very poor opinion of your self. INTJs are supposed to be far more elitist and as a by product of that extremely self confident in their abilities.

For example some of my friends think I am shy and not that confident around women. On nights out if I am not having fun I retreat into the confines of my own mind. If I happen to meet a woman I like a metamorphosis occurs. Gone is the quiet broody guy and out comes the smooth talking player. Admittedly this is not that often as I am picky not desperate.

As for the wanking everybody does it. It's normal.

capricornintj
04-27-2008, 10:20 PM
Suicide is not the answer and never the answer.

I completely agree. Suicide is not the answer -- it is the easy way out. Besides, us INTJs don't like to do anything the easy way.

You're fretting about getting off three times a day? I wish I could still do that. I just turned 40 and my libido is going quickly. I'm lucky if I manage three times a week.

You think you are screwed up? News flash, we all are, and I don't mean just INTJs. All of us, all humanity, each in our own way, is just as flawed as the next person. Some just hide it better than others. Me, I was filled with self-hated and loathing when I was younger. I was a complete dork. I probably still am, but that doesn't define me. I still have issues. I've battled cognitive depression for much of my adult life. Drugs won't help -- I just think too much. Ironically, thinking is what pulls me out of it too.

As an INTJ, you are rare and you have been given a gift and talent that others can only dream of having. Please don't waste it. Most of the people you encounter in this world won't get you. Don't let that get you down. Have faith in yourself and things will improve.

I won't pretend to know your situation, but if you are truly having self-destructive thoughts, please ask for professional help. You are only 18, and maybe you don't see it now, but you have so much ahead of you in life. There is a fantasic world out there waiting for you to explore. Don't give up on it.

PRBori
04-27-2008, 10:32 PM
A PERSON WHO COMMITS SUICIDE HAS GIVEN UP ON LIFE WITHOUT TRULY UNDERSTANDING IT'S MEANING...

THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN MASTURBATION... There is nothing wrong with MASTURBATION...

I don't know WHY you would think that YOU HAVE TO COMMIT SUICIDE in order to stop your Self-esteem issues..

Maybe you should LOOK deeper into what you want of life, life is precious, and you are a gifted person. Not many people have the vision that we as INTJs have... we are a rare bread and never resort to such thinking for fixing problems... at least I don't even though my life was full of trials...

You need to identify what's the real ROOT of the problem... I don't think is MASTURBATION... I think it goes beyond that and only you know what it is...

Seriously reconsider all options, write down everything you have in mind and identify the ROOT before is too late... there is a reason for everyone to exist and I'm sure you will find out what that is soon... NEVER GIVE UP... that's not an INTJ trait...

Mafiaangel180
04-28-2008, 08:00 AM
Lol, I have known women that cant keep their hands out their pants. She is not sitting on the washing machine during the spin cycle just to hold it down. I think I read the average for a woman is 2-3 times a week, but there is a lot of variety. Men get a raw deal with body fluids acting as a natural limit.

Hell yes there's a lot of variety. But seriously, there's variety for men too. The old hole-in-the-mattress-deal. And I'm seriously wondering who's tried apple pie after those damned movies. Hehe.

lordrrr
04-28-2008, 08:46 AM
Yes, almost every day. For the past 8 years.

I'm such a screwed up person, I should find a way to die. I'm tired of me.

You are not screwed up in the least, don't even THINK of killing yourself. You are simply in a slump. It's happened to me before. Just find some new activities you'll enjoy or something. You seem to have great prospects and all.

alone
04-28-2008, 09:00 PM
dude. why do you feel like crap? do you think there is something wrong with it?

I masturbate like a fiend. In the past it has gotten excessive, but a couple times a day is nothing. I used to take masturbation vacations sometimes, spend a whole morning, e.g., 10am to 4pm scanning porn and masturbating. no big deal whatsoever. It is something we guys need to do since we're not supposed to go around screwing everything that moves anymore.

It is how we are built. Really, do not feel bad about it. It's like feeling bad about having to eat or something. There is only a problem if you start having uncontrollable urges to do it in public or at the office or something... otherwise, no worries.

as for feeling crappy afterwards, everyone feels kind of spent afterwards, but that is natural. just don't do it right before a big race or sports event, and you'll be fine.

mental drift
04-28-2008, 10:19 PM
On the suicide thing I recently did a paper on the effects of divorce on children, not that it is part of your problem, but let me explain.
For the children in the studies who had parents divorce, all claimed the same dissatisfaction with their childhood. Those who did not blame themselves personally for the problems, and that believed they were in charge of their future, they were relatively normal psychologically. Those who blamed themselves for the problems and believed the divorce impaired their future had severe psychological issues.
Problems are all in how you look at them. You are in charge of your future, and it will get better. Stop blaming yourself, don't take everything so personal, problems happen to everybody your not alone. You just have to look beyond your situations.
I was there too, so was a lot of people on the forum probably. Hated so many things about my life as a teen, I considered suicide. But things get better, and dealing with problems gets easier.

fonmaneal
04-29-2008, 04:58 PM
Disclamer: I am not advicating suicide!

I have had the Pistol in my mouth, in a tub, with plastic sheets laid out.
I came to the realized, with no fear of death the world is now my bitch.
What can be done to me? I no longer fear the greastest punishment for non-survival conduct.
So I say Write the STORY you choose. For now you fear no one or nothing!

WRITE WELL!

Wapiti
04-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Don't stop. Embrace it. If you really don't want to (cue the Frankie Goes Hollywood Relax Don't Do It song in the background) relax, don't do it.

melon
04-29-2008, 09:52 PM
Offtopic posts have been moved to this thread (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) again. Try to stay (at least somewhat) on topic, people. ;)

Lilo
04-29-2008, 10:00 PM
Masturbation is just a physical release. It is not a substitute for real intimacy. Just cut down on the frequency.

Beery Swine
05-12-2008, 10:21 PM
Cut your balls off. That'll end it real quick. Why would you wanna stop in the first place? It sounds like "I can't stop enjoying long walks: help me."

Nameless
05-13-2008, 12:16 AM
I just finished masturbating right now about 5 minutes ago. Did it 3 times. I've tried to stop but I always fail. I always end up watching porn and masturbating to it. I masturbate almost every day, several times a day since I was 10 years old. I always end up watching online porn and masturbating to it.

As some of you may already know(from other posts I've made) I am 18 years old, I am the guy whose a virgin, never touched a girl, never kissed, whose probably got a couple of personality and/or mental disorders, who is socially inept, whose got no friends and has never had any, who lacks verbal communication skills?, who sucks with people, who does not know how to start and keep a conversation, who is latino, who is ugly, who is pathetic. Plus other things I cannot think of at the moment.

Sometimes(like right now) I just lose all hope. When I feel like this(like 80% of the time) I just wish I could end my life, I guess I'm too pussy for that too. I see no point in living.

Willpower. After you conquer something with it, it feels really good. I hate masturbating too, and only do it to kill my any sexual thoughts or feelings I might have.

eMachine
05-14-2008, 01:50 PM
On the topic of suicide, I agree with everything stated by PRBori in post #84.

As for masturbation, I suppose I am married to a chronic masturbater (masturbator? hmm), I also suppose it's my fault at this point because my sex drive simply doesn't match his. But anyway the only thing that I see wrong with it in my husband's case is that it (porn/masturbation/fantasies) has possibly given him some wrong perceptions about women and sex. He often tells me that he wishes I were as excited and 'uninhibited' about sex as those female porn stars. If my income depended on it, yes I would probably behave and act the same way they do. It is indeed acting and oftentimes sex is not the way they portray it, without all of the self-consciousness and awkwardness that we experience in real life.

But beyond possibly creating unrealistic expectations of intimate sexual encounters, there is nothing wrong with porn, masturbation, or fantasies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your chosen "passtime". I'd also like to say there is nothing wrong with your social ineptitude, as an INTJ woman I find myself often disgusted by the "social graces" of those who are well-versed in the art of communicating with others, for there is alot of acting in that as well, and it's dishonest. Someday you will happen upon another person of the opposite sex who will respect you for your ineptitude. Be who you are. Don't try to be like them just because the grass looks greener over there. Trust me, most of them suffer from more inward turmoil than you do!

Honestly, I respect you for your inability to woo and manipulate females as I was often wooed and manipulated as a naive teenager. Having no experience with that, imo, makes you a better man for it.

I'd also like to add, this is probably one of the most entertaining threads I have read in a long time (no offense to the original poster, of course), it has brought many great INTJ comedians out of the woodwork.

Thucydides
05-14-2008, 11:24 PM
Listen, there's nothing wrong with a healthy jerk to end the day. As far as I can tell you don't actually have a problem here. Enjoy it.

volk
05-15-2008, 05:14 PM
Why stop? It's not like it hurts you in any way - quite the opposite. I've been doing it even before I knew what sex was all about :P. I find that it improves my ability to concentrate.

changos
05-15-2008, 09:38 PM
Ok! Seriously this post is trying to point to the "how do I stop masturbating" and also to the "I don't like me" because my words this time applies to both threads. Fej, I mean no harm, read the electronic book I sent to you. Also, my intj brain thinks only of two answers to this loooon thread.

1. This could be an alter ego of "meta" or the relative... an alter ego of somebody behind the forum posting stories just studying our behavior and how we react to this kind of problems. Some perhaps are familiar with this.

2. OR #2, my best answer from the heart:

I'm such a screwed up personFej, you should see the people I work with... we all are screwed up in some way or another and guess what? some get promotions, some put their own business, some get married with beautiful chics!!!

Soldier, get up and walk. Life is too hard now? wait till you have to raise a kid, feed it, loose sleep and work hard to feed your family with no vacations and giving up a lot of your dreams, working sick and having serious health problems while you also have to take care of your sick mother waking up every 15 minutes to monitor her state.

Stop masturbating, just stop. Do something with your life. Masturbation per se will take you nowhere. Study, read, play, shut down the computer, change your friends if you have to, read a book. Stop worrying about the size of your penis and muscles or whatever. Go walking. Do you think your life is hard? Someday you will sum all my posts and threads I will open and you will think twice.

Also other people have harder lifes than yours and mine together but they don't have time for complaining as they have enough responsibilities and things to worry about. I could talk about my life but is just too boring and this is not a contest of who is more sad.

A long time ago people just studied, worked and lived. Now the internet, the pc and so makes everybody to complain for the life they have, while their own grandparents didn't have the half of blessings you have.

I can be understanding and relate to other people sufferings, but sometimes I just think this is too much. A problem is to lose your sight because of glaucoma. Do you know what it is to feed a loved relative because it has become blind? and suddenly taking care of somebody old because they cannot be independent anymore?

Do you now what it is to be fit, healthy but having to give up your life except for your work because a loved relative had a brain problem and now you have to do everything? being locked up at home? "Ok, I want the day off, but I just can't..." that sucks... but thats life, is about attitude and making priorities... manage your energy, don't waste it.

Trust me, you are caught up in a circle, just walk in other direction.

I've been on the dark side and having a shitty life by times and also know others who have a harder time than any of us...

but they are so busy they just can't afford or waste time and energy masturbating. Thats my two cents, honestly, from my heart if you will. Now is the time to build your tomorrow (hear right now by van halen if you want to). A lot of old people get nowhere and complain because of wasted time... because instead of building themselves and preparing for the future, they where drunk, looking at the sky, surfing the web, watching porn or just masturbating.

One of my best friends threw his life away from party to party, now he need to be an adult at his 30 and he just can't... he wasted his time, he needs a job and guess what? he has to conform to the one he has because he was too busy on the msn chatting (I and I had to add also masturbating). Yes, he can still do everything it but it is harder when you waste time.

So get up soldier, walk, you are built for more than you think, you are built for bigger things. It is up to you. Read the book, stay busy, and also be vigilant about religion and "some moral values" people say there are, it surely will make you feel miserable.

John Galt
05-16-2008, 02:45 PM
I just finished masturbating right now about 5 minutes ago. Did it 3 times. I've tried to stop but I always fail. I always end up watching porn and masturbating to it. I masturbate almost every day, several times a day since I was 10 years old. I always end up watching online porn and masturbating to it.

As some of you may already know(from other posts I've made) I am 18 years old, I am the guy whose a virgin, never touched a girl, never kissed, whose probably got a couple of personality and/or mental disorders, who is socially inept, whose got no friends and has never had any, who lacks verbal communication skills?, who sucks with people, who does not know how to start and keep a conversation, who is latino, who is ugly, who is pathetic. Plus other things I cannot think of at the moment.

Sometimes(like right now) I just lose all hope. When I feel like this(like 80% of the time) I just wish I could end my life, I guess I'm too pussy for that too. I see no point in living.

Start running at least 3 times a week. Make sure you run hard.

brad
05-16-2008, 10:37 PM
Eventually you'll meet someone special who will not care that you're inexperienced or have low self-confidence when it comes to intimacy. That person will boost your confidence, give you experience in such matters, enjoy doing so, and will make you a happier person. Until then, fapfapfap and ignore everything that makes you feel guilty for having natural hormones.

Wapiti
05-17-2008, 12:45 AM
All I can say at this point Fej is look,this problem will be with you a while, look at the response you have received to your thread. This obviously is not something you are alone in. Look at the age of those responding to your thread. That should tell you something. Please understand, you are not alone, we are here - you have friends ................

Fej
05-17-2008, 06:59 AM
Thanks a lot whyme for your support, and to everyone else that cares.