I'm getting depressed again.

[ShaiGar]

I'm an ENTP, the E stands for Extraverted. That means that I need to be around people in order to get charged. When I am not charged I withdraw into myself, hide in my room, read my books and cuddle myself to sleep. As you can assume that is not psychologically healthy.

Sure this means that I get a lot more knowledgeable but it also means that I get less and less emotionally stable. INTPc and Planetarion's GD has seen this happen before. It's not pretty. And yet for all my current knowledge of what is going to happen if I do not go out and meet people, I hold a LOT of contempt for most of the people in this town, and have held that sort of contempt for most people all my life and I've never bothered to learn social skills. So "going out there and meeting people" is not really the easiest option. Especially since I don't know where to start and I hate clubbing.

What I'd like to do is know how to meet people like you guys... or even others like me. I fulfill my Artha, and my Dharma, and even my Moksha, but not my Kāma. Pretty stupid right? Even animals know they should mate. (whole other topic and not for this thread). However I live in Darwin, NT, Aus. This pretty much limits my abilities to meet them safely online and then meet up in person.

Tomorrow I have a class with only 1 of the 2 people I like in it, and then I have another class with again, only 1 of the 2 people I like in it. The other one has buggered off south for the week. At least that one is an INTJ.

What would rock is a group of 4 of us who got together and played 500 maybe 2 nights a week all night long...

[vaguely dissatisfied]

Personally, I found my intolerence of others to be the greatest barrier between me and a 'normal' social life. Since you probably require more of a social life than I do, I would suggest that you put some energy and thought into how you might get past some of your contempt for others.

[ShaiGar]

but they all suck.

[vaguely dissatisfied]

True. But, they probably have some value in that some way. I realize it's a huge task....I've tried it myself with little success. However, it's a matter of what is more important to you, maintaining the level of contempt you have for most others or getting out of your funk.

[schwartzie]

I'm an ENTP, the E stands for Extraverted. That means that I need to be around people in order to get charged. ...
What I'd like to do is know how to meet people like you guys...
What would rock is a group of 4 of us who got together and played 500 maybe 2 nights a week all night long...



well, its not 500, but there is the Darwin Gamers: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
and maybe mensa australia: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (says that there are groups doing gaming)



What other kinds of stuff do you like to do? What truly energizes you?

[ShaiGar]

I'm not Mensa worthy, I'm anywhere between 115 - 128

Sex energizes me. Politics and fundraising energizes me.

[DrEast]

I'm not Mensa worthy, I'm anywhere between 115 - 128

Sex energizes me. Politics and fundraising energizes me.

So raise some money by suckering politicians into a badger game.

Solved!

More seriously, go looking for people. You're an E, you can actually do that sort of thing. I can't really give you a whole lot of advice on it, being a lowly I myself. But hey, you like politics, and political clubs are dirt common. Heck, go hang around a club for a party you can't stand and bring it down from within. Good clean fun!

[schwartzie]

I'm not Mensa worthy, I'm anywhere between 115 - 128

Sex energizes me. Politics and fundraising energizes me.

The fundraising piece is a goldmine, ShaiGar. Every organization you approach that depends on fundraising will try to capture you. So few people like fundraising... So be real selective, and pick the one or two orgs that have the highest percentage of your target population.

hm....the question is, where in Darwin would you go if you were a girl (for the sex) or guy (for the friendship) about ShaiGar's age (more or less) who enjoys politics and/ or a political cause. ShaiGar, do you prefer rationalists? or does it matter?





schwartzie added to this post, 2 minutes and 23 seconds later...

actually-on the depression piece- is darwin entering fall/winter, and does reduced sunlight/SAD enter into your depression? Or do you know your triggers?

[Jgib5328]

You should just try to make friends with the people who are there. I don't see why you have such a strong preference for INTJs, you should just try and find people for who they are, not their types. It seems like you are quick to judge people negatively, have you ever tried talking the people you dislike?

[mental drift]

Here's my idea, go to church. First it's a social gathering. Second many of the people are more positive and upbeat, especially after an encouraging message. Third probably a majority dislike clubbing also so there are bound to be other interests. Finally you may glean some words of wisdom from the message, so don't consider having to sit for an hour in order to socialize a loss.

[sriv]

LOL. The easiest answer is to transmutate into an INTP. In this case, it would be favorable because you have an intolerance of people.

I wouldn't be complainin. You probably have better people skills than us.

[mkay]

And yet for all my current knowledge of what is going to happen if I do not go out and meet people, I hold a LOT of contempt for most of the people in this town, and have held that sort of contempt for most people all my life and I've never bothered to learn social skills.

This sounds like a bad combination if you crave company. It seems like you'll have to make more effort or suffer the consequences. Or maybe you can learn to wean yourself off company. I don't know whether that's possible; might depend on how E you are.

I'm ENTP, but I find I need very little exposure to people, which is surprising. (I'm only 63 percent E, though, so maybe that's why.) I've been taking several months off and I've happily spent probably 95 percent of it on my own except for having my INTJ husband's limited company. I love being at home, doing my own thing, and have put off invitations to do stuff. I guess I like knowing that I could go out if I want to, but I don't actually want to. But I like one-person activities like reading, wasting time online and such.

[ShaiGar]

So raise some money by suckering politicians into a badger game.Badger game?

More seriously, go looking for people. You're an E, you can actually do that sort of thing. I can't really give you a whole lot of advice on it, being a lowly I myself. But hey, you like politics, and political clubs are dirt common. Heck, go hang around a club for a party you can't stand and bring it down from within. Good clean fun!There aren't very many political clubs in australia, and none in darwin



The fundraising piece is a goldmine, ShaiGar. Every organization you approach that depends on fundraising will try to capture you. So few people like fundraising... So be real selective, and pick the one or two orgs that have the highest percentage of your target population.:) I've chosen Anglicare, and I'm considering setting up a lobby group/charity that raises funds for education.
This one is a pretty good idea. I could set that sort of stuff up easy enough, but I need the energy and drive beside me.


hm....the question is, where in Darwin would you go if you were a girl (for the sex) or guy (for the friendship) about ShaiGar's age (more or less) who enjoys politics and/ or a political cause. ShaiGar, do you prefer rationalists? or does it matter?
I do prefer rationalists. That is indeed the question. Chess clubs maybe, be more active getting the 500 names maybe.


actually-on the depression piece- is darwin entering fall/winter, and does reduced sunlight/SAD enter into your depression? Or do you know your triggers?
We're entering the Dry Season. in the tropics we only have the two. Wet and Dry

have you ever tried talking the people you dislike?
Yeah... That's the reason I dislike them. I love everyone on earth, from amoeba to george bush to noam chomsky to aria giovanni to certain US college girls who are INTJ. So unfortunately I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. people abuse that BotD so often that I'm a cynic.

Third probably a majority dislike clubbing also so there are bound to be other interests. This is true, unfortunately they're all also very old. okay not all of them but quite a damn few. Most of the people who are young are not the brightest sparkies either. A friend and I used to have a game of going to church youth groups and seeing how many of these girls that practice abstinence we could seduce in a week. The result was depressingly high. They're there for their self esteem (yay homophone alliteration), they meet a bunch of people and all try to convince each other that they love doing this because it brings them all closer to christ, to fill the hole in their lives with something. We just filled it with us.

The few I've met at church who are worth making friends with I have, and they've tended to be NT's who are beyond the 35 year old mark.

Finally you may glean some words of wisdom from the message, so don't consider having to sit for an hour in order to socialize a loss.I know what you're saying here. I come from a family of clerics, and out of all of the priests and bishops and deacons I have met, only a few have words of wisdom to give.



conclusion: I should become more active in my fundraising for anglicare, It'll get me more focus and I'll meet more people, hopefully some girls.

[mental drift]

This is true, unfortunately they're all also very old. okay not all of them but quite a damn few. Most of the people who are young are not the brightest sparkies either. A friend and I used to have a game of going to church youth groups and seeing how many of these girls that practice abstinence we could seduce in a week. The result was depressingly high. They're there for their self esteem (yay homophone alliteration), they meet a bunch of people and all try to convince each other that they love doing this because it brings them all closer to christ, to fill the hole in their lives with something. We just filled it with us.

The few I've met at church who are worth making friends with I have, and they've tended to be NT's who are beyond the 35 year old mark.

I know what you're saying here. I come from a family of clerics, and out of all of the priests and bishops and deacons I have met, only a few have words of wisdom to give.

conclusion: I should become more active in my fundraising for anglicare, It'll get me more focus and I'll meet more people, hopefully some girls.

Then I digress.