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OneBadMother
10-01-2007, 01:37 AM
Well, since someone mentioned something like this in INTJs and Relationships, here it is. <_<

What was your worst relationship like, what type was your ex, and how did it go terribly, terribly wrong?

Long-Winded Story Alert:
I was involved in a 2 1/2 year relationship with an ENFP. The relationship started in the first place with a misunderstanding, thanks to text not being able to convey nuances of wording very well. Namely, he said "I love you", and I, having violently reacted to his flirting a previous night, felt sorry for him and decided that maybe I should try to make him happy (I thought that sacrificing my life for some greater good was a good way to do something meaningful with my life at that point). Later I found out that he meant "I love you" in a friendship sort of way, making our relationship based on a sham from the outset.

I tried my best to stick to my gender role to make him feel needed and happy, but it seemed to have the side effect of him thinking I was stupid, emotionally fragile, and childlike. At first they were a devout Christian and rap enthusiast, but within the ensuing two and a half years he would change philosophies and musical preferences frequently. After the first change he began to regard me as worthless and my opinions as completely without merit. He cheated on me early on, but since I didn't care enough about him at that point it didn't matter to me. He would get offended if I didn't remember anniversaries or did anything but praise them. He would also be embarassed if I did anything particularly nerdy/silly/anything me-like at all in public, even if no one he knew was around. When people he did know were around, he would flirt shamelessly with females and wave me around like some sort of meat. He drank heavily, claimed to have done every drug known to mankind, was utterly bipolar, and would get violently angry at people for months at a time. He once had an LSD-induced foursome while I was away, told me, told me he was kidding, then revealed much later that it had, in fact, happened. He also used his abusive childhood as an excuse for all this.

I broke up with him, but then made the mistake of getting back together with him when he claimed that he needed me. During the brief period we were back together, I realized that I disrespected him so thoroughly that I wasn't even physically attracted to him anymore, that other people had gone through worse and that he was just using his past as an excuse to be a dick, that I was more depressed than I had ever been while in that relationship, and that even if I hadn't fallen for someone else by then and even if he tried to be better, we were still one of the worst two people to be in a relationship together. I tried to drive him off, but realized eventually that I would have to be the one to break it off. So I finally did, despite him saying that the fact that I was the most miserable I ever was around him meant it was love, and threats of suicide.

Later he said "Let's be friends!", only to backstab me about it and try to turn all my friends against me, claiming that he was going to drink himself to death. Naturally, he didn't, and he even got himself another girlfriend eventually, though he broke it off with her within a few months. He tried pulling the "let's be friends" stunt again, but I simply e-mailed him back once to tell him I was glad he was doing all right and completely severed contact from then on out.

I was definitely at fault with this, but I still think to this day that what he ever did to me significantly outweighs what I did to him. This was my first and only relationship, from when I was 14 to 17. While I regret it to some extent, I think it helped me grow as a person. I've become more confident in myself and my identity and no longer think that I should sacrifice my life for others. I've also learned that I should never date an F again, especially one with such huge issues, and should get to know someone I'm interested in extremely thoroughly over however many years it takes before so much as considering dating them. I may have been eventually turned down by the guy I liked during the waning part of the relationship and grew to love afterwards, but I figure that I would never have considered him in the first place if I had had a strong bond with my ex. I would hands-down prefer being alone for the rest of my life than ever dating my ex again.

Guido
10-01-2007, 10:17 PM
Apart from the sex, drugs, and abusive childhood, this sounds a lot like an ENFP I know. The two key things that stood out when I read this was how he had rationalized that 'this must be love' because of strong emotions between you two. My friend has used that exact same logic :X Also, I find that my ENFP friend feels that he needs to convince other people that he's right to get the social support that he craves. ENFPs are also very good at manipulating others. These two things combined can lead to big trouble if they aren't thinking rationally. It doesn't surprise me to see that he tried to turn friends against you. I wouldn't say this was intentional on his part (even though I really don't know for sure) but I would really guess it's just a side effect of the personality.

Looks like I'll have to post something about the crap that happened to me recently since I am the one who suggested this thread :o Didn't think anyone would actually start one though :P

Firelie
10-01-2007, 10:42 PM
Well shoot, I haven't got anything as dramatic as that. lol

I had this one online boyfriend for about 6 months...we used to play MMORPGs together, you know, some sort of twisted shared-hobby relationship. Anyway, he seemed cool and we had fun hanging out, but he complained about how his life sucked pretty often. Stupid me didn't take that as a warning signal. Soooo he came to visit me at one point while I was still living on campus. Turns out he was bipolar and he didn't think to tell me before coming to visit. He was also racist and homophobic, which didn't work out too well because none of my friends here are white, and the only male friends I have are gay. Half the time he was at my place he was pouting in my room for reasons unknown (I later found out that just the thought of leaving me and going back to his home sent him into a depressive state in which he wouldn't want to talk to anyone or do anything), the other half was spent making jabs at my roommate/friends or playing video games. I think I lasted about a week before he really started pissing me off (I'm an unreasonably patient person at times). I just couldn't deal with his constantly glum state, and the fact that he was invading my personal space 24/7 and I couldn't get rid of him because, on top of coming to visit, he hadn't booked a ride back to Texas because he was hoping I'd let him move in! Oh, that was the last straw. I made him cry several times before I finally got rid of his ass. Guess I wasn't the savior he was hoping for.

wolf
10-01-2007, 10:58 PM
All three failed, and they lasted between two days and two months. The first was a month, the second was two, and the third was two days. They all left me for someone more exciting. I'd prefer to avoid the stories, because they were all rather emotionally painful. I open up too easily, having been a social outcast before the first (at 20), and between each thereafter.

deicruxified
10-02-2007, 01:26 AM
oh god... well here it goes... the previous relationship i had was 7 mos. i'm not the type who would constantly say "i love you" or call him terms of endearment like "sweet heart". i also can't stand long phone call conversations but i was trying since he's got a lot of issues way back then (father has been comatosed for 3 years his mother is a racist chinese and is pressuring him to get rid of me). he's an enfj. we're opposite in a lot of things but we got to have them compromised.

there have been issues that circumscribed us. first is his friendly and sweet nature was a challenge i never took seriously although inner "n" has already been alarming ibm (internal bullcrap meter) telling me to get jealous.. one time he had me attend a party of his adopted little sister called sarah. he gave her flowers which i was the one who even handed it to her (stupid). i still wanted some concrete evidence but during those times, i was happy with him. then since i'm still in dreamland, it was my friends who did the investigation and slapped me with a lot of evidences. 5 days after that happened i was dreaming of an open sea then the high priestess in the tarot card giving me the moon. then i met, anne and angel (don't guess who they are)... then sarah called me... and the rest is conflict. my friends wanted to get rid of him but i said no so i tried talking to him and he was the one furious... i just asked him "why?". he was bawlering telling me that i'm immature for not understanding his situation... so i kept quiet for some time. then i called him i want to take a break coz i got to have some priorities settled (i'm trying to finish my thesis proposal at that time). he freaks out and wants me back after two days.. i know he's been doing some underground job on girl hunting but i just let it pass since i don't want any argument... i just let his conscience to sink in... i don't want to mess my thesis coz i only had one term left.

another issue, as what i've said, is his racist mother. as we all know, we intj's are achievers. i graduated college 19 y.o. (he was 24 at that time) so that was also a big issue. conservative chinese families want their sons to be the dominant ones in a relationship. so there... when it was, "meet the parents" time, my xbf told me the whole family's there but when we came, it was only his cold mother. you know it when intuition senses that someone's just wearing a mask. she just pretends that she's happy to see me. my xbf used his mother as the reason why he broke up with me because he was already forced to drop me otherwise he'll be disowned. but i do sense other issues behind it like another woman i guess. he never told me directly that he's ending things. he just sent it via ym but i got the message first from a common friend. so i asked him why? and obviously (probably emotions kicked in) he was not making sense... i just told him if that's what he wants so be it.

i never sulked over it for the reason that i am focused on my thesis which is bertrand russell stuff so i had my mind pre-occupied. then 1 month after, a week before his birthday, we wants me again but this time, i said i'm quitting. if he can't handle the responsibility then better drop me coz have some other things that needs my attention most. been single for 2 years. i am focused with my career that i lost contact with him already.

so there end of story...

rwyatt365
10-02-2007, 05:01 AM
Ok, here's one of my stories…

Run back the clock to when I was 16. For several years I've been going to Indianapolis to go to the race there (the Indy 500 – you know) with my reluctant father. That year I had my license and my own car (yes, you could do that in the 'olden days'), so I drove myself to Indy for the race to stay with long-time friends of our family. Every year, for the race, they had a massive BBQ and folks from all over came by.

Well, one family that came to the BBQ had a daughter and that daughter came in one of those tiny little tennis outfits. Of course, being a normal teenage male, I immediately lost my mind :lovestruck: over her very shapely legs! I overcame my natural shyness and began to talk to her. I have no idea what I said, but it must have been good because I gave her my address to write to me and she took it (remember, this was before email and text messaging).

Of course, I never expected her to write, but she did – and quite often, and quite intensely. So, for the next year we exchanged letters probably twice a week. I represent myself better in writing that I do in person, so I guess I impressed her. Anyway, this continued as I went to college where I entered my "playa" phase and I kinda forgot about her.

By the time I graduated from college I had determined that I wasn't a "playa" – not even close – so I called my long-time friend and asked if she would come up for the weekend. She did, and basically never left. A weekend became a week, and a week became a month, and a month became a year. I can't say that I was actually in love with her, what we had was convenient and easy. But I instinctively knew that we were fundamentally different; she was loud and I was quiet, she was excitable and I was calm, she was emotional and I was cold. We lived together and then we got married. We stayed together for 8 years and I'm constantly amazed that we lasted that long (I guess it's part of that INTJ penchant for holding on too long).

In the end we just drifted into two different worlds. I knew that she wanted more than I was able to give to her so I didn't stand in the way of her doing what she wanted to do. So she went back to school, and created her own circle of friends, and started her own career, and found someone that suited her better. I, on the other hand, turned myself into my work – I worked long hours almost every day, and when I wasn't working I escaped into music. I would sit for hours on end listening to LP's or making mix tapes (remember; pre-CD's and iPods) I'm sure our neighbors hated me when I was home.

Eventually, she came to me and said, "I met this guy…", and I said, "It's all right, I already know…", and we got a divorce. There was no animosity (mostly because I felt it was my fault for bringing her into this), I gave her everything and moved back to Detroit with just my car (did I mention that I had gotten laid-off during that time?).

That's when I met my "baby's momma". But that is another story…

Rei
10-02-2007, 10:17 PM
his mother is a racist chinese and is pressuring him to get rid of me
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conservative chinese families want their sons to be the dominant ones in a relationship

Oh sheeet weally?!
I neva going to marry nice chai-ne-see boy!


Anyways, really, I hate that Chinese families are so male oriented. Luckily I have a very feminine dad XD

deicruxified
10-02-2007, 10:26 PM
there are uber conservative chinese families existing here so when you ask some people here "why did you broke up with your b/gf" if they answer, "he/she is chinese" no further questions asked...

but that doesn't mean i already hate all the chinese.. i'll just be cautious lol