Pyscholingulistics and social behaviour

[futureperfect5]

Well, what a coincidence ...

Currently, on Showtime Cable Network there is a popular series on the Tudors which seems to glamourize:

Promiscuous behaviour of whatever century Henry VIII lived in and his constant need to amuse himself with his submissive subjects.

A plot to bring division into the institution of the Church ...
as if it were hard to achieve (maybe it was then),
honestly no real attempt against belief in christ.

Yeah, yeah and the constant quest for power
even between friends and siblings ...

NOW, fast forward to 2008 ...
(well, in Texas), and you have a group of religious extremists
subjugating women and children into passive acceptance
of pretty much whatever the men said.

Let's just find out definitively ...
men: do you really need to bolster your self-esteem by
exploiting weakness?

In my view it is less than noble behaviour -- character, charity, protecting community and the weak and the poor -- those are noble qualities, even today.

[Of course, we have seen how Prince Charles has behaved -- even from the House of Windsor ...] so, it is not about royal birth, nobility is not genetic or innate.

It seems that men have particular trouble with coming to terms with the truth of their inferiority in nature -- I should write human beings -- to be clear. We, the humans, yet pronounced in the male of the species.

Not ALL men ...
not ALWAYS ...
yet, very evident.

[sriv]

My self-esteem is high enough as it is. Exploitation is immoral and would probably lower my self-esteem because I would feel guilty. That is just me, most men are otherwise. Just a test - go up to any highschool boy and ask him if he is humorous. The vast majority will say yes.

[Pinkie]

Sorry, but I was drawn here by the title of this thread and now can't really see what it has to do with psycholinguistics at all. It seems to be more to do with bullying than anything else, so why choose that particular title? I'm not bashing, I'm just interested.

[thod]

Its tough to parse but I think she is ranting about men. Don't forget they are you sons, your father, your brothers, and your husband. Whatever they are, woman made them, just as men make women. We are interlinked.

[Pinkie]

^That's rather the impression I got, too, and that's why I thought it was curious. I rather like the men of my acquaintance and couldn't for the life of me see any relation between psycholinguistics and social behaviour, and men who've behaved like shits. Hmmmm.

[sriv]

Rather than admit you ignorance, you prefer to assume that I am "ranting" about something ...

Yes, you are ranting. I assume you are a feminist. There are a lot of problems like this going on in the world and it is the fault of male nature. We know. I could rant about how woman have little participation in scientific progress or how they should fight in wars. What point are you trying to get across?

[futureperfect5]

Learn about psycholinguistics and then get back to me ...

Yes, you are ranting. I assume you are a feminist. There are a lot of problems like this going on in the world and it is the fault of male nature. We know. I could rant about how woman have little participation in scientific progress or how they should fight in wars. What point are you trying to get across?

[thod]

If I am correct, the complaint is over the dominant male-submissive female role models.

I don't find this odd. Almost all women are attracted to dominant males and not submissive ones. The most common female masturbation fantasies revolve around a powerful male holding her down while he fucks her (not in a nasty way). Men by contrast hate the idea of some body building female doing that to them (most men).

If a man is subdued his libido suffers. His endocrine system responds to his status in the pack. If he is an inferior male, he will get sex less often, and his body adapts to that. If he is an alpha the same. The woman that acts submissive making him feel dominant gets more orgasms. Did your mother not teach you anything about dealing with men.

I would love a harem of submissive females that adore me. I am not going to apologize for being a man. Its clearly the womens fault for producing sons with these innate preferences. Lets blame the women.

[dsday]

I don't find this odd. Almost all women are attracted to dominant males and not submissive ones. The most common female masturbation fantasies revolve around a powerful male holding her down while he fucks her (not in a nasty way). Men by contrast hate the idea of some body building female doing that to them (most men).

Citation? This seems rather broad generalization to be truly representative of the "average" man or woman.

If a man is subdued his libido suffers. His endocrine system responds to his status in the pack. If he is an inferior male, he will get sex less often, and his body adapts to that. If he is an alpha the same. The woman that acts submissive making him feel dominant gets more orgasms. Did your mother not teach you anything about dealing with men.

I doubt there are only two categories of males out there in the world: inferior and alpha. This may be a shock to you, but not all males have a primary goal of having a lot of sex in their lifetimes. Some males might actually have pickier sex patterns which cannot be explained by your dominant or inferior categories.

I would love a harem of submissive females that adore me. I am not going to apologize for being a man. Its clearly the womens fault for producing sons with these innate preferences. Lets blame the women.

Good for you, I guess. Hopefully, you don't truly blame the women though. It's not like culture contributes to it as well.

[Pinkie]

Learn about psycholinguistics and then get back to me ...


Well, the point is that I personally *do* learn about psycholinguistics... and still fail to see its relevance to this thread. If anything, this appears to be sociolinguistics - the role of language in society, and conversely, the role of society in shaping language. But still, language doesn't seem to be coming into this much. It seems to be an airing of your grievances against men - which is fine, but not with a title which doesn't reflect the content of the thread.

[thod]

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[Pinkie]

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;D

That is rather interesting, though. I suppose it's some sort of subconscious recognition of the articulation of the sounds - takete has only voiceless stops as consonants (would dagede work in the same way?) and does seem kind of... pointy.

Well done, thod! Very on-topic. I love it.

[acrossthefourthwall]

That is rather interesting, though. I suppose it's some sort of subconscious recognition of the articulation of the sounds - takete has only voiceless stops as consonants (would dagede work in the same way?) and does seem kind of... pointy.

As I understand it, this is pretty much right-on. The bursts of energy accompanying voiceless stops certainly sound abrupt and sharp. This is getting into my own speculation now, but a (non-nasal) stop can't be sustained in the way that a mere fricative or liquid can, so I guess it's natural enough that we'd link a continuant with a diagram that'd be drawn more smoothly.

[Pinkie]

Exactly. You put it much better than I did (I couldn't remember what [m] and [l] and the vowels were classified as - I knew they could all be syllable nuclei and even that they're all sonorant... but not that they were continuant). Oy, what a year without phonetics lectures does to a girl's brain.