"Oh my God, this person is retarded."

[vulcan]

I admit that I probably give new people the benefit of the doubt more than other INTJs. But, I just have to ask, am I the only one who, after a period of conversation, has the thread title line flash in their mind repeatedly and tunes out for the rest of the conversation or tries to escape?

[thegnat]

I admit that I probably give new people the benefit of the doubt more than other INTJs. But, I just have to ask, am I the only one who, after a period of conversation, has the thread title line flash in their mind repeatedly and tunes out for the rest of the conversation or tries to escape?

Nope, you're not the only one.

Sometimes even with people I know who I think are talking about worthless subjects to me at least (ie shopping, relationships, gossip, etc). I'll attempt to give the people the benefit of the doubt, but then after a certain time passes I'll just start thinking about how stupid the subject is why in the world would I ever care and how worthless the subject it is...then after awhile after thinking about that (already partially tuned out of the conversation) I might go to the thread title :-X They should know me better than to talk about that shit right? :-?

[Tegyrius]

Ayep. Some days, I feel like I have an inane remark counter in my head. Every time a conversational partner trips it, it increments. Once it passes a certain threshold - whose value depends on my mood - I stop listening and engage the "nod and smile" autopilot.

[Natrushka]

Oh god, you're so not the only one. I have had to learn to fake a look of interest so my eyes don't glaze over too obviously.

[thegnat]

Ayep. Some days, I feel like I have an inane remark counter in my head. Every time a conversational partner trips it, it increments. Once it passes a certain threshold - whose value depends on my mood - I stop listening and engage the "nod and smile" autopilot.

Oh, the nod and smile method - works so well. Makes people really think you're listening and you do really care but you don't really give a damn. I've used that quite a bit. Has been very useful for me.

[rwyatt365]

Ayep. *Some days, I feel like I have an inane remark counter in my head. *Every time a conversational partner trips it, it increments. *Once it passes a certain threshold - whose value depends on my mood - I stop listening and engage the "nod and smile" autopilot.
Same counter, different response. I have not perfected the nod-and-smile. I just zone out, go into blank stare mode and start saying in my head "Please shut up. Please shut up. Please shut up...". My hope is that, through a psychic connection, they will; a) stop talking, b) begin to say rational things, or c) explode in a flaming fireball.

[orange]

I admit that I probably give new people the benefit of the doubt more than other INTJs. But, I just have to ask, am I the only one who, after a period of conversation, has the thread title line flash in their mind repeatedly and tunes out for the rest of the conversation or tries to escape?

Almost every day at some point.

Unlike some of the others here I dont use a counter to determin when I tune out, instead i use a timer that resets every time something interesting is said. The length of the timer depends on my mood.

The funny thing is that after I stop listening I can still give meaningful responces to what is being said. I guess I use background memory because I never remeber what they or I say right after its said. I'm good at the auto nod or the automatic uh-huh if someone is talking your ear off on the phone, but I perfer to start doing something else whlie they are talking to me. That is where my lap comes in handy.

[mind_wander]

dude, you are not the only one. I think without my dad taking the personality test. Taking an educated guess is fits in the ISFP:To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

There are things, I tune in and there are things I tune-out. At most times, it gets really frustrating too the point, me get out some schoolwork to do and listen to the music. When most of my family members talks in terms of logic, he turns the other direction. Has anyone experience this?

What about when your watching the tv [moment of silence], just enjoy and relax, then all of the sudden someone keep on translating whats going, spoilers, and then repeat it again?

So frustration, I am smart enough to translate it, analyze it, understand it. Darn it, I am INTJ.

[Jennywocky]

Well, it is not just an INTJ thing... INTPs go through this all the time too.

And it's a fairly quick thing -- I can tell early on by HOW someone thinks and what they prioritize in the conversation how "intelligent" they are and how clearly they think.

Usually I don't say anything and still continue to listen, just in case they surprise me (you never know when you'll sift out a diamond in the sludge), but mentally I have already calculated the percentage of this [as being abysmally small] and have started multitasking other more important things, while keeping one ear open to monitor their mouth and hope beyond hope they'll be called away or have someone else interrupt them so I can make my escape...

*groan*

[Rei]

I admit that I probably give new people the benefit of the doubt more than other INTJs. But, I just have to ask, am I the only one who, after a period of conversation, has the thread title line flash in their mind repeatedly and tunes out for the rest of the conversation or tries to escape?

Not so much repeatedly, but it's definitely happened. I usually tell them really quickly that I have to be somewhere doing something important and just plain leave. I mean, if it's just boring then I'll be slightly more polite about it. If the retardation is there... I'll just zoom off ASAP... what if the retard virus comes and invades my brain too? NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ::)

[ShaiGar]

Oh god I have that same response. My ISFJ father keeps trying to talk to me about subjects that he thinks i need to learn and i just switch off... and I work in an internet cafe, soo many dumb people....

I wish i could use mental commands, Avada Kedavra would be one of my most used commands. With a smile on my face and spite in my heart. (not against my father, just customers)

[mind_wander]

lol, you crack me up. Yeah, thats the same approach for me. Trust destroying a father-son relationship is a bad way to go.

[Jezebel]

Same counter, different response. I have not perfected the nod-and-smile. I just zone out, go into blank stare mode and start saying in my head "Please shut up. Please shut up. Please shut up...". My hope is that, through a psychic connection, they will; a) stop talking, b) begin to say rational things, or c) explode in a flaming fireball.
I also use rwyatt's method. Smiles and nods might encourage them to keep talking.

[rwyatt365]

I also use rwyatt's method. Smiles and nods might encourage them to keep talking.
I have matured over the years. In college days my tactic was to say, "Oh, excuse me. You must be mistaking me for someone that gives a shit." Then walk away...

Needless to say, I was not very popular. I wonder why :-?

[TeleportThis]

I usually just stare at them until they shut up and then leave.

[r21left]

Not to be a wet blanket, but keep in mind that this usually happens when we meet a person who is out of their element and loitering around areas where INTJs are found - school, business, etc. I'm sure if we went to a club or an aimless social event, we'd be the ones sticking out and subject to ridicule.

[rwyatt365]

Not to be a wet blanket, but keep in mind that this usually happens when we meet a person who is out of their element and loitering around areas where INTJs are found - school, business, etc. I'm sure if we went to a club or an aimless social event, we'd be the ones sticking out and subject to ridicule.
...to some degree.

I used to be a regular at clubs in the metro-area in the 80's. I treated it as an exploration of social rituals, in that I wasn't dancin', or hittin' on the ladies but I was sitting back observing. I got to know quite a few of the waitresses and bartenders and we had a good time pointing out and commenting on "the happenings". I guess if anyone was paying any attention to me (and they weren't) I would have been subject to ridicule. The trick was to blend in, become invisible.

INTJ stealth ninja, ACTIVATE! [smiley=ninja.gif]

[Doppelbock]

Ayep. Some days, I feel like I have an inane remark counter in my head. Every time a conversational partner trips it, it increments. Once it passes a certain threshold - whose value depends on my mood - I stop listening and engage the "nod and smile" autopilot.
Same counter, different response. I have not perfected the nod-and-smile. I just zone out, go into blank stare mode and start saying in my head "Please shut up. Please shut up. Please shut up...". My hope is that, through a psychic connection, they will; a) stop talking, b) begin to say rational things, or c) explode in a flaming fireball.

Holy crap, that is exactly what I do! In my head: "Please shut up please shut up just shut up oh God make him shut up SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT THE F@#! UP SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP --" [head explodes].

DB

[mind_wander]

Not to be a wet blanket, but keep in mind that this usually happens when we meet a person who is out of their element and loitering around areas where INTJs are found - school, business, etc. I'm sure if we went to a club or an aimless social event, we'd be the ones sticking out and subject to ridicule.
...to some degree.

I used to be a regular at clubs in the metro-area in the 80's. I treated it as an exploration of social rituals, in that I wasn't dancin', or hittin' on the ladies but I was sitting back observing. I got to know quite a few of the waitresses and bartenders and we had a good time pointing out and commenting on "the happenings". I guess if anyone was paying any attention to me (and they weren't) I would have been subject to ridicule. The trick was to blend in, become invisible. *

INTJ stealth ninja, ACTIVATE! [smiley=ninja.gif]
Wow, you too; I know that I'm Asian. When $hit happens, I normally disappear in a flash; "Nickname: Stealth Ninjia". For example, one second I am here, you turned around, then I am gone. Then waiting alittle bit, I am back, next time I am gone. When you think I disappeared, apparently I fooled you; hello, I am still here.

[mind_wander]

Not to be a wet blanket, but keep in mind that this usually happens when we meet a person who is out of their element and loitering around areas where INTJs are found - school, business, etc. I'm sure if we went to a club or an aimless social event, we'd be the ones sticking out and subject to ridicule.
Here is a very good questions for INTJ's. IF there was a specialized school based on only your personality traits would you like to attend there. For example, if there was a specialized INTJ school of Business/Science/Art/Music, etc. Would you like to go? Heck yeah, no more arguments "Heaven", but the high majority of arguments are mostly intellectual.

[r21left]

Not to be a wet blanket, but keep in mind that this usually happens when we meet a person who is out of their element and loitering around areas where INTJs are found - school, business, etc. I'm sure if we went to a club or an aimless social event, we'd be the ones sticking out and subject to ridicule.
Here is a very good questions for INTJ's. IF there was a specialized school based on only your personality traits would you like to attend there. For example, if there was a specialized INTJ school of Business/Science/Art/Music, etc. Would you like to go? Heck yeah, no more arguments "Heaven", but the high majority of arguments are mostly intellectual.


I don't think I'd want to attend such a school. I need the diversity of personality types to see things from different angles, socialize adequately, etc. I like interacting with my INTJ friends at school, but I don't think I'd want *all* my school friends to be INTJs.

[thegnat]

Not to be a wet blanket, but keep in mind that this usually happens when we meet a person who is out of their element and loitering around areas where INTJs are found - school, business, etc. I'm sure if we went to a club or an aimless social event, we'd be the ones sticking out and subject to ridicule.
...to some degree.

I used to be a regular at clubs in the metro-area in the 80's. I treated it as an exploration of social rituals, in that I wasn't dancin', or hittin' on the ladies but I was sitting back observing. I got to know quite a few of the waitresses and bartenders and we had a good time pointing out and commenting on "the happenings". I guess if anyone was paying any attention to me (and they weren't) I would have been subject to ridicule. The trick was to blend in, become invisible.

INTJ stealth ninja, ACTIVATE! [smiley=ninja.gif]

I think INTJs have a great stealth capability. And if we're desperate we can sit in a corner, observe and we'd be far enough away that people may notice us in the corner but won't remember us. We'd be faceless people in the corner.

I also tend to observe when I'm at a social event. I won't know too many people but I'll go to the people I know, say hi, wander around, blend in and just observe everyone else. I'm not often at social events, however...

[vulcan]

I don't understand you guys who make visible signs of distaste to the person. Most everyone is useful in some way. Don't sever connections.

[The Rose]

I admit that I probably give new people the benefit of the doubt more than other INTJs. But, I just have to ask, am I the only one who, after a period of conversation, has the thread title line flash in their mind repeatedly and tunes out for the rest of the conversation or tries to escape?
I do that, too. Sometimes it's like torture to listen to some people.

[Rei]

I don't understand you guys who make visible signs of distaste to the person. Most everyone is useful in some way. Don't sever connections.

There are some people who are so 'retarded' that even if I could use, I wouldn't use. Because that would make me feel retarded.

[Epicurus]

What about when your watching the tv [moment of silence], just enjoy and relax, then all of the sudden someone keep on translating whats going, spoilers, and then repeat it again?

So frustration, I am smart enough to translate it, analyze it, understand it. Darn it, I am INTJ.My mom always does that, if she haven't fallen asleep in front of the tv or if I have insulted or annoyed her enough to make her go away that is.*

Usually if these persons would address me directly, I would just shut up as much as possible and try to seem interested in what they say, and meanwhile try to mentaly detach myself so I won't hear whatever they say or start to fantasize about applying my hatred on them in different ways. I also sometimes repeat words and sentences wich you already mentioned some of...

[rwyatt365]

What about when your watching the tv [moment of silence], just enjoy and relax, then all of the sudden someone keep on translating whats going, spoilers, and then repeat it again?

So frustration, I am smart enough to translate it, analyze it, understand it. Darn it, I am INTJ.My mom always does that, if she haven't fallen asleep in front of the tv that is or if I have insulted or annoyed her enough to make her go away. *

I hate that! My defense is a DVR...I just put it on pause, let them speak, rewind a little and then continue. Eventually they get the idea that they are being incredibly annoying. And, if not, I haven't missed anything.

[Epicurus]

What about when your watching the tv [moment of silence], just enjoy and relax, then all of the sudden someone keep on translating whats going, spoilers, and then repeat it again?

So frustration, I am smart enough to translate it, analyze it, understand it. Darn it, I am INTJ.My mom always does that, if she haven't fallen asleep in front of the tv that is or if I have insulted or annoyed her enough to make her go away. *

I hate that! My defense is a DVR...I just put it on pause, let them speak, rewind a little and then continue. Eventually they get the idea that they are being incredibly annoying. And, if not, I haven't missed anything.Ah yes I might just need one, atleast I can and do use that technique when im watching a dvd.

[Iannus Quirinus]

Ayep. Some days, I feel like I have an inane remark counter in my head. Every time a conversational partner trips it, it increments. Once it passes a certain threshold - whose value depends on my mood - I stop listening and engage the "nod and smile" autopilot.
Same counter, different response. I have not perfected the nod-and-smile. I just zone out, go into blank stare mode and start saying in my head "Please shut up. Please shut up. Please shut up...". My hope is that, through a psychic connection, they will; a) stop talking, b) begin to say rational things, or c) explode in a flaming fireball.


Exactly :)
I do what both of you said, but without the "please shut up" part.

But some times that I'm feeling well, I might even try to talk to them "in their way" and try to understand them - especially if you replace them with her, and if we're close.


What about when your watching the tv [moment of silence], just enjoy and relax, then all of the sudden someone keep on translating whats going, spoilers, and then repeat it again?

So frustration, I am smart enough to translate it, analyze it, understand it. Darn it, I am INTJ.My mom always does that, if she haven't fallen asleep in front of the tv that is or if I have insulted or annoyed her enough to make her go away.


Yeah. Though somehow, my mother infected me with this, and I do this too from time to time. That's a sad moment, especially when I remember it used to annoy me. :( (still does to some extent)fixed broken quote tags

[mind_wander]

What about when your watching the tv [moment of silence], just enjoy and relax, then all of the sudden someone keep on translating whats going, spoilers, and then repeat it again?

So frustration, I am smart enough to translate it, analyze it, understand it. Darn it, I am INTJ.My mom always does that, if she haven't fallen asleep in front of the tv or if I have insulted or annoyed her enough to make her go away that is.*

Usually if these persons would address me directly, I would just shut up as much as possible and try to seem interested in what they say, and meanwhile try to mentaly detach myself so I won't hear whatever they say or start to fantasize about applying my hatred on them in different ways. I also sometimes repeat words and sentences wich you already mentioned some of...

lol, yeah me too. In my mind..blah, blah, blah, my name, blah, blah, spoiler, blah. You get the picture.

[bucolic_]

I get this feeling often, sometimes I can't even look at their face when it happens... Happens almost everytime my boss opens her mouth..

[INTJoe]

Not sure exactly how I react to these people. I think that I would just look at them with the most blank expression possible. Just totally cold, until they realize they aren't stimulating me whatsoever and hopefully change the subject or walk away. lol.

[xtremegeek]

This is not just an INTJ behavior. I glaze over all the time when subjected to boring, meaningless conversation. My ESTJ sister is constantly accusing me of being arrogant. I have not perfected the 'smile and nod' tactic. Instead, I carry the false hope that the phrase "Scottie beam me up!" will actually work one day.

[mind_wander]

What you have not masted the "Smile and Nod" technique. I managed to do very well at it, maybe someone in here can help you out. Very easy, with a grin smile then a slight nod; thats all to it. Option B, just stare them in the eye.