INTJ grin

[merid]

I haven't actually met any INTJ's in normal situations so I don't know. Do we all have a Cheshire cat grin that we use right after being sarcastic?

My girlfriend loves my grin because I have never used it on her (I don't know what the smile is) but she says that I use it alot for other people. She says it disarms them from my blantant insult but it is really cold if you know what it means. Coupled with the stare apparently I look like a killer...

Is this just me?

Also do you find that the people who say "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" are just trying to make themselves superior?

[raconteur213]

I get that a lot.

Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded.
Fyodor Dostoevsky

[Doppelbock]

The fact that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit merely means that one should resort to it first. Things can escalate from there as necessary.

[bluenote]

Ohh I just love sarcasm, especially when it takes awile for someone to even get that they have been insulted. Wow it’s almost like one of those cartoons you see the gears slowly turning before the lightbulb comes on. Then it’s like ohhhh wait did you just insult me?

[spittingvenom]

Absolutely...I usually take it a step lower as well...sarcasm mixed with debasement. I usually don't even need the sarcastic grin to turn people away.

Being an INTJ though, when someone gets your sense of humor, isn't offended or insulted by it, they generally will get you as well.

[ElstonGunn]

I have never been sarcastic in my entire life. Not even once. It's a dumb way to communicate. :blank: ..... :p

[raconteur213]

I have never been sarcastic in my entire life. Not even once. It's a dumb way to communicate. :blank: ..... :p

You must be surrounded by intelligent life forms. Perhaps the rest of us are not as lucky.

[sriv]

You must be surrounded by intelligent life forms. Perhaps the rest of us are not as lucky.

Or surrounded by lifeforms so unintelligent, there is no point in talking to them or retorting to their insults.

[Llen]

I have never been sarcastic in my entire life. Not even once. It's a dumb way to communicate. :blank: ..... :p

You must be surrounded by intelligent life forms. Perhaps the rest of us are not as lucky.

Or surrounded by lifeforms so unintelligent, there is no point in talking to them or retorting to their insults.


Or perhaps you didn't realize that ElstonGunn was being sarcastic....


Wait a minute.... This circle of sarcasm makes it difficult to determine whom the joke is on. The reader? Elston Gunn? Raconteur213? Sriv?...or Me?

[BlackHawk]

I haven't actually met any INTJ's in normal situations so I don't know. Do we all have a Cheshire cat grin that we use right after being sarcastic?

I can't speak for everyone, but I do. It also applies after winning a war of wits. :)

My girlfriend loves my grin because I have never used it on her (I don't know what the smile is) but she says that I use it alot for other people. She says it disarms them from my blantant insult but it is really cold if you know what it means. Coupled with the stare apparently I look like a killer...

Yes. Very cold.
And, I don't know whether it's a "killer" look, but it is usually very intimidating to onlookers.

Is this just me?

No.

Also do you find that the people who say "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" are just trying to make themselves superior?

Mostly, yes. In other cases, it is said by someone who truly is so much better at witty repartee that he/she is above sarcasm.

[Llen]

Ah, yes. Back to the matter at hand.

I haven't actually met any INTJ's in normal situations so I don't know. Do we all have a Cheshire cat grin that we use right after being sarcastic?

Yes. I tend to do that often. It can come off as being somewhat smug. :smug:

[malefide]

I haven't actually met any INTJ's in normal situations so I don't know. Do we all have a Cheshire cat grin that we use right after being sarcastic?

I do that. People do not anticipate it because I rarely make any extreme facial expression, so when I suddenly grin I have been told it is somewhat jarring.



Also do you find that the people who say "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" are just trying to make themselves superior?

Yeah, probably. It's a matter of taste, but I don't see why sarcasm is a particularly "low" form of wit. Wit is wit. The way it's expressed varies, but the sharp and insightful perceptions are present if the wit is worth anything.

[Zunite]

People always tend to think I'm being serious when I'm actually being sarcastic... which amuses me since I tend to think that I'm saying something so out in left field that no one could possibly believe that I could ever think that way

I save the grins for when people are saying something outlandishly stupid and actually believing what they are saying is possible (i.e. bosses speaking of schedules)

As for the lowest form of wit? Only people who think that are those who don't get it.

[Firelie]

I prefer to deliver sarcasm with an utterly bland face so that the listener doesn't know whether I'm serious or not.

[Melotch]

I know what you mean, I do that as well. Otherwise, the person either won't get it or will be terribly hurt. But even with the grin, half of the time it goes over their heads.

About sarcasm being the lowest form of wit... I think that's the perception of those whose feelings are easily hurt. I try to keep that in mind, but it's the absolute best way to bring somebody up short who's blathering too irrationally.

[searcher]

Yes! I love sarcasm. It is my way to let off steam when all the stupid people in my classes at school hack me off. It's most satisfying when they don't get it for a few seconds and you can watch their faces go from dopey to "uh... you just insulted me didn't you."
And yeah - I have the grin. I love the grin.

[Antares]

I don't really know what my grin looks like but I know what I do. I think, if I were to have an OBE (of course, I wouldn't be grinning then. but you know what I mean). I don't think I ever grin the 'traditional' way. No showing teeth, nope. I grin to amuse people or I was amused. I flash a cheesy smile and wink. If I'm trying to amuse people, due to the structure of my face, I can cup my face in my hands (taking advantage of baby fat... I still have those :irked:) and feign innocence... Of course, those who knew of my nature would know how fake it is.

I use sarcasm with a tone of irony and hesitancy with a thoughtful expression, and sometimes expressionlessly to confound people. People usually won't be able to tell if I was being sarcastic or not (that scares some of them when I say the outrageous things)

[Blacklustre King]

I get the whole full on fanged grin. It not only disarms them but makes them wanna gtfa from me as quickly as possible.

It really does construe a very "Serial Killer" look from INTJs.

[punkyplatypus]

I use the grin with people I like and know well. The thing is I use the grin when my response is ambiguous as to whether it was sarcastic or sincere. I like the confusion it causes in people. You can see them rewinding it and replaying it in their mind. They get so frustrated over not knowing what I meant, and I use the grin as a guise to not give a physical tell as to whether I meant it one way or the other. However the grin does show that they've just entered a mind game with me. Usually I eventually let them know what I meant.

Now when I use sarcasm with people I don't know as well or just don't like, I don't use the grin. I truly don't care for what they think of me and so I don't care for whether they know what I meant, and I surely don't want to play the grin game with them. If it throws them off their thought process or makes them think less of me for saying something obviously wrong, I sort of get some gratification out of it. I think at this point I may be grinning on the inside for this personal victory, but I keep a serious exterior.

[Crawdaddy1975]

first time poster just found this site.

I don't know about the grin but sarcasm and irony are my biggest forms of humor. The thing about the sarcasm is that I use it mainly to make people smile but,,, When I use it in anger I end up saying things that really hurt people. I do have a certain grin that I produce when people start spewing drivle out of there mouth or make nonsensical paintings.

[DrEast]

I haven't actually met any INTJ's in normal situations so I don't know. Do we all have a Cheshire cat grin that we use right after being sarcastic?

My girlfriend loves my grin because I have never used it on her (I don't know what the smile is) but she says that I use it alot for other people. She says it disarms them from my blantant insult but it is really cold if you know what it means. Coupled with the stare apparently I look like a killer...

Is this just me?


I didn't realize my sister was taking the following shot until she'd already taken it. Proof positive of the INTJ smirk.

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However, a full toothy post-sarcasm grin is something my INFP roommate does all the time. So that's not solely an INTJ trait.

(I'd grin more often myself, but I've got terrible teeth.)