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Firebrand
05-25-2010, 08:25 PM
In continuing with the series of "are you x?" threads here going on currently, my question is are you told or considered indirectly to be too intense for most people? This has been an ongoing theme in my life where I am blatantly assertive about any and all manner of issue, to the point where people who I personally consider weaker or passive-aggressive consider me to be aggressive simply because I am direct, honest, straight-forward, no-bs, and don't shy away from conflict or potentially controversial topics.
As a recent case-in-point, my ex-supervisor who I still occasionally talk to told me more-or-less that I'm a handful (I'm paraphrasing). I told him "I never claimed to be a pushover. You need to man-up if you want to deal with me. If someone can't handle me, that falls under the category of not my problem". He agreed, but still, you see my point.
So, my question to pose to you, the reader, is does this happen to you also? Do people consider you "too much" in some fashion? How so? Why? Theories are welcome.
Imperator
05-25-2010, 08:37 PM
Has happened to me. Usually when I'm excited about something or caught in the moment, or (maybe weirdly) in a really inquisitive and explorative state of mind.
Only way I can tell is judging other people's reactions. I try to back off pretty quickly when I do notice though, most times I'm not attempting to be aggressive or intense.
Jarem Asyder
05-25-2010, 08:46 PM
Yes a million times yes.
I get passionate about things, and argumentative and ranty, and my friends are like "dude chill out" and I'm like "but this is important it affects THE ENTIRE WORLD!" and they're like "whatever" the the conversation turns to some mundane crap.
jimnorris
05-25-2010, 09:46 PM
i have been called "too intense" so many times that it almost doesn't affect me anymore. i no longer apologize for my passion. if someone is too weak to take a stand then too bad!!! as for me, i shall contend, MWA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
admittedheretic
05-25-2010, 11:21 PM
I've heard the same countless times. Enough to the point where there apparently is a problem with my behavior, but I just can't help myself. Even here on the forum I usually find my posts to be ten times the length of most without saying anything that could possibly interest another person.
Yes! I'm considered by people who know me quite an intense person and maybe even a little wierd, because I can stay calm even if involved directly in a car accident (really happened to me) but I can become pretty argumentative o react in a very direct and straightforward way if something excites me or is really interesting.
Jarem Asyder
05-26-2010, 05:25 AM
I have a friend who calls me emo about it. Most of my other friends joke about it.
Anima Mundi
05-26-2010, 05:36 AM
I most certainly have. It's like you can't be passionate and enthusiastic about anything without being labeled "______dork," "Assburgers," etc. This is why I don't bother to talk about personal interests and pastimes, and just stick to the business at hand.
True Rune
05-26-2010, 05:46 AM
When I was younger, yes. Now I have to stop myself.. it's not worth it.
sewntothesky
05-26-2010, 09:42 AM
always. parents, teachers, professors, friends, boyfriends. certainly, my husband tells me that quite often - lovingly and awe eyed when we're fine, accusingly and helplessly when we argue.
i've never known what to do about it. have been considered crazy. but i'm fairly sure i'm not crazy.
i have been called "relentless". i guess that must be a similar vibe.
and every time it screws with my life a little too much, i decide to just stop being like that, put on an act, be more .. well.. "normal". it takes something between two hours and two days until exactly this kind of restraint makes me freak and i go all "OH. FUCK. YOU." in my mind. i'm actually okay being this way. it's just .. sometimes. sometimes it's hard.
zibber
05-26-2010, 10:22 AM
I take life by the shoulders, look it in the eyes and headbutt it until it passes out. Fuck yeah I'm considered intense.
Salvor Hardin
05-26-2010, 10:32 AM
Yes a million times yes.
I get passionate about things, and argumentative and ranty, and my friends are like "dude chill out" and I'm like "but this is important it affects THE ENTIRE WORLD!" and they're like "whatever" the the conversation turns to some mundane crap.
I am exactly like this. I have scared off more than my fair share of people, but if they can't handle it (and actively participate in a discussion)... then they really are not people that I want to be around anyway.
Zsych
05-26-2010, 10:34 AM
People haven't actually said it, but I can tell in some of their reactions.
shaunmikex
05-26-2010, 11:47 AM
I'm intense, especially when I let the "proper" routine down. I don't take much shit, and I don't do much to avoid conflict if I feel there needs to be one to resolve an issue. This leads to people sometimes calling me heartless, but my NF friends think I'M FAR from it.
Plastikcat
05-26-2010, 11:54 AM
Intense - Usually muttered by people that do not know me very well.
cheerbear
05-26-2010, 12:25 PM
So, my question to pose to you, the reader, is does this happen to you also? Do people consider you "too much" in some fashion? How so? Why? Theories are welcome.
Yes, I've been told I've been too intense/passionate or have a strong personality at times, but usually from people that don't know me very well. It's the "champion" ENFPness; you don't want to get on our bad side or in the way of one of our causes because we can be as dogged as the best of them. But my friends joke I'm a pushover because I like everyone and am usually the mediator. :nice:
Theories, hm, some people can't handle it?
bailey
05-26-2010, 12:56 PM
I recently started a new job and went about a week to kind of "go with the flow" and get used to how things were usually done. But now that I have gotten my bearings and see the places the team needs help I have gotten back into my normal intense ways. And yeah I have been called intense twice in the past 3 days. But it doesn't bother me at work (not that I actually care when people say this outsde of work either) because the "intensity" is only surfacing because my fellow workers are basically demanding it to. Laziness and passive aggressive behavior often times seems to go unaddressed at work because most are afraid to speak up. I'm not and if that means I'm "intense" so be it.
AngryGroceries
05-26-2010, 02:26 PM
Interesting, I usually get called very laid back. :p
AcuMan
05-26-2010, 04:05 PM
No. I think I am more reserved around others than intense. I tend not to talk about the things I am passionate about with people I am not good friends with. My interests are not mainstream enough for them to be received well.
"When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem." -Rinzai
used to get those words put at me. i am better able to contain myself now. instead of letting others know what i am up to, i just do it, and mostly don't talk about it.....the intensity is therefore kept out of the public view to some degree.
as you said, Firebrand, 'it's not my problem what others think'. i used to have the sign on my desk 'lead, follow or get the hell out of the way'. if i were to have 'another desk', now, i would have the sign 'get the hell out of the way'...not going to follow, don't want to lead anyone...do away with the unnecessary words.
a theory? many people are not committed to their principles in any great degree...they like to do 'lip service'. they do not understand anyone 'more committed' than they are....
IrishGuy
05-26-2010, 04:46 PM
I get that all the time. I think it's because I am hardwired to always go 110%. If it's work I am working then I am going to work 110% and if it's a recreational activity like basketball I am going to play 110%. It's hard to tone down because I feel like I am being lazy or quitting when I do.
Jarem Asyder
05-26-2010, 04:53 PM
I get that all the time. I think it's because I am hardwired to always go 110%. If it's work I am working then I am going to work 110% and if it's a recreational activity like basketball I am going to play 110%. It's hard to tone down because I feel like I am being lazy or quitting when I do.
I have kind of the same thing, my girlfriend jokes that my settings are "angry," "really angry," and "sleeping."
NanINTJ
05-26-2010, 05:33 PM
Always too intense. Some people are nice and say enthusiastic. I tire out everyone around me.
Gobbbler
05-26-2010, 10:35 PM
I think that I am all right at this. Maybe it is the P in me. When I am in the flow/focused on something and am socially comfortable (not too large of a group and I at least kind of know them), I am apparently quite intense. I am told that in these settings that I bring a lot of intensity to teams and other tasks and that I can intimidate people (at work). I try to do a good job of balancing it out using social skills/consideration for others and such as well as doing a good job of deciding which battles are worth the fight.
Nikita
05-27-2010, 12:26 AM
I often feel somewhat laid back, but others view me as intense...sometimes incredibly so. I would say that I'm focused, vigilant, and unyielding when it comes to my principles. It does tend to be off-putting to people, from what I've gathered, especially since many of them prefer silly, frivolous, and surface-level yes-man style interaction to cynical, honest, and direct.
Damien Black
05-27-2010, 06:11 AM
I have my moments, which get blown out of proportion because I'm usually pretty reserved about things.
Zsych
06-01-2010, 06:54 PM
So like many INTJ, I tend to be fairly intense in dealing with people at times. I've also noticed that I'm fairly intense in some other things... like even in how I eat my food. If I watch myself - I don't even drink coke out of a straw very calmly :p
I noticed lately, that if I eat more bland foods, eat lower amounts, and eat slower in a more relaxed fashion... that also affects me some in my regular life. I'm also trying to listen to my intuition more and not be as strongly attached to some things I feel I must do... This slowing down feels a little like being drugged, but I also feel a little like I might be thinking more like a normal person.
I've noticed for example that girls I would've looked at previously and ignored on account of them not reeking of enough intelligence, suddenly seem like they have other positive qualities to my eyes. :p
Mader
06-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Yes.
I tend to walk very fast. Why? I don't know, feeling busy, I guess.
But I found that I tend to be more tense when I walk fast.
Also, I tend to send out the signal that I am not interested in talking with others.
Didn't mean to do that.
So, I have to think about slowing down and it helps in both departments. We do have to be aware of how we appear to others. They seem to think we are calm and disinterested. Not true, we just keep things inside when others can't see them.
And remember to make lots of eye contact (not like a serial killer, tho) and smile. They like that.
Krazy P
06-01-2010, 09:14 PM
Yes.
"like drinking from a fire hose" is an expression I have heard more than once.
Claudus
06-01-2010, 11:53 PM
I've learned to hide my intensity fairly well, but even still I'm considered intense... I sometimes feel like Cyclops from the X-Men.
Yes, and always coupled with widen eyes and "chill out!"s.
Rachel45
06-05-2010, 08:13 AM
I have been told I am very intense when I feel strongly about something or I am deep in thought that I am about to express; I love my INTJ intensity....:thinking:
Autoptic
06-05-2010, 02:32 PM
Yes, when not personally/personably avoidant or spacey. Fast walking/stair-bounding, social shortness and evading, and style of general action too. While often in some ways minimalistic, this adds to the directness.
paperclip
06-11-2010, 11:33 AM
I am exactly like this. I have scared off more than my fair share of people, but if they can't handle it (and actively participate in a discussion)... then they really are not people that I want to be around anyway.
Ha. I've been told by another INTJ (!) that I should "chill out". You haven't been slapped in the face until you've been slapped by one of your own.
shytiger
06-11-2010, 04:08 PM
I was voted "most intense" in junior high.
SuperSmart101
06-11-2010, 08:00 PM
A million times when I was younger, I was always told I was "too intense. " I have now realized that those people couldn't realize that being direct and not including emotions in arguements is a strong point of me, and if people can't take my directness, that is their problem.
ctiquila
11-06-2011, 08:14 AM
Yes.
I tend to walk very fast. Why? I don't know, feeling busy, I guess.
But I found that I tend to be more tense when I walk fast.
Also, I tend to send out the signal that I am not interested in talking with others.
Didn't mean to do that.
So, I have to think about slowing down and it helps in both departments. We do have to be aware of how we appear to others. They seem to think we are calm and disinterested. Not true, we just keep things inside when others can't see them.
And remember to make lots of eye contact (not like a serial killer, tho) and smile. They like that.
Yep. That about sums it up for me. I don't always like putting that face on; preferring to be brutally honest. But at least the people I work with don't call me a bitch behind my back anymore. The misunderstanding is what troubles me. Am I so scary as my normal self that any other type will always write me off like that? Pu-lllleeezzze!
teraczy
11-06-2011, 08:24 AM
No, not really... Only in discussions or debates about topics I feel strongly about, otherwise, I idle at reserved. And laughing.
sigsig
06-25-2012, 04:20 PM
The OP could have been written by me, but wasn't.
AlfredSchnittke
06-25-2012, 04:38 PM
I've always been called an "extremist".
Fcuk Aristotle's Golden Mean bullshit!!
Paul Siraisi
06-25-2012, 06:03 PM
Yep too intense. Nailed that one.
La Comtesse
06-25-2012, 06:21 PM
All. the. time. :devilish:
yes, but not in Germany! *LOL
JYFly
06-25-2012, 10:24 PM
People tend to get defensive when I speak. I have purposely softened my voice resulting with the same effect. I noticed that they react better when I purposely use lots of qualifiers, but that tires me out, so I only do it when necessary.
Cerebrate
06-25-2012, 10:59 PM
I have been told that I have intense eyes. I cycle through periods of intensity and low energy.
DesertKnight
06-25-2012, 10:59 PM
I fall into the intense category sometimes. I too am usually reserved about my conversations but that is usually for the benefit of others, a learned skill. I have very harsh world views and very strict definitions of strength and weakness, and this is often seen as way too intense for some folks. Luckily I rarely interact with others and when I do it is either with people of like mind, people I care enough about not to overwhelm, or people I couldn't care less about so I don't mind being too intense.
MissionPossible
06-25-2012, 11:35 PM
I get passionate about things, and argumentative and ranty, and my friends are like "dude chill out" and I'm like "but this is important it affects THE ENTIRE WORLD!" and they're like "whatever" the the conversation turns to some mundane crap.
LOL! I love it...I can certainly relate.
Yes, it is not uncommon for many a mundane and passive-minded person to find me TOO this and TOO that...but that is their problem because whatever I am TOO is a matter of personal preference on their part, not a fact of reality. In my own experience, how much I am of what I am works out quite well in assessing reality intelligently and getting things done well.
It isn't my job to be exactly what other people want me to be. What is important is that I strive to be the best me that I can be and to do something good in this world with the time and potential that I have. I try not to control others or be unnecessarily aggressive, but I reserve the right to be as assertive and as intense as need be to try to do the right thing and to do it well....and, to be myself.
AndromedaStar
06-25-2012, 11:38 PM
I've been told on many occasions that I "make an impression." Which I suspect is code for "dang she's intense."
Eyedears
06-25-2012, 11:54 PM
Even my best friend in college thought so. :shocked:
The way I see it, maybe the rest of humanity is simply living too P/F. All depends on your perspective. In any case, I can't constantly be self-conscious about something that is not a moral or ethical failing. When I'm around Sicilians or certain people from the Middle East, nobody thinks I'm too intense or too loud. Bah!
Ender
06-26-2012, 12:57 AM
I can get intense when trying to make a point in a disagreement, or when talking about something that interests me, but generally, no, I'm low key.
Frequent intensity requires energy that I don't have. I suppose some might call me intense though if I'm thinking intently.
sircockburn
06-26-2012, 01:48 AM
Yes. When my mind fixates on something, I obsess and get overzealous about it. However, I'm also ADHD, so those fixations are constantly changing.
As a result, people who befriend me and start spending time with me consistently, on average, lose around 10 lbs. That's how exhausting I apparently am. :!blank:
The way I look at it - would you rather eat a whole lot of diet fat free Jello? Or a bunch of EXQUISITE bite sized hors d'ouerves, in a variety spanning from REAL creme brulee to chocolate torte?
Coincidentally, the latter option is also apparently how the French stay slim. ;)
koakuma
06-26-2012, 02:39 AM
Yupp. When I find something insteresting that I want to tell, if I'm caught up in a moment, if I am excited about a discussion, if I figured something new, am obsessed with something (usually includes a goal), etc. It's like the head is in an explosion of information, creativity, passion, etc.
There's only a few people that can keep up with me when I'm in such a state.
Most people don't seem to like it since they are used to the calm me. Family and friends seem to be ok with it, but other people not so much. They are surprised by the sudden explosion and it might at times be a bit overwhelming for them, just because they're not used to it. It might make me seem spontaneous. People have no idea how to "handle" me at such times and I sometimes speak so fast and am so intense about my subject, that the people listening seem rather shocked instead of actually listening. The people that do not like it seem to think it's an explosion of emotions, rather than "connections". This is bad since then they don't listen to me as much as if I would speak calmly. The "hey, but listen" + argument to why they should listen usually works at such moment.
I'm not sure if this is good or bad. Maybe good for me, bad for them, then bad for me to if I don't get anything out of it? I'm not THAT bad, but I admit that it's still a work in progress. But then, everything is a work in progress. :)
This is why I'm called a "package of force". "Once you decide on something, you're unstoppable" /Old teacher
scorpiomover
06-26-2012, 03:32 AM
In continuing with the series of "are you x?" threads here going on currently, my question is are you told or considered indirectly to be too intense for most people? This has been an ongoing theme in my life where I am blatantly assertive about any and all manner of issue, to the point where people who I personally consider weaker or passive-aggressive consider me to be aggressive simply because I am direct, honest, straight-forward, no-bs, and don't shy away from conflict or potentially controversial topics.
As a recent case-in-point, my ex-supervisor who I still occasionally talk to told me more-or-less that I'm a handful (I'm paraphrasing). I told him "I never claimed to be a pushover. You need to man-up if you want to deal with me. If someone can't handle me, that falls under the category of not my problem". He agreed, but still, you see my point.
So, my question to pose to you, the reader, is does this happen to you also? Do people consider you "too much" in some fashion? How so? Why? Theories are welcome.No-one calls me too "aggressive". Quite the opposite.
But pretty much everyone, except for my immediate family, says that I'm too intense. I've heard it dozens of times.
People have same the same to my other family members as well.
Loneliness
06-26-2012, 04:16 AM
It seems like my nervous system is much like a race track. Constant and intense flows of feelings (not to mention the variety of them) makes me act intense. I guess there is a great diference between how each of us feels everything and it happened that my nerves have greater sensitivity than those of most people.
hi5yourface
06-26-2012, 12:17 PM
Yes, I've been told I'm intense, but that's where it usually ends, it's never elaborated on. I don't really know what I'm being intense about which is why I generally avoid eye contact because I think this is an indicator of intensity.
thecase
06-26-2012, 12:35 PM
i have been called "too intense" so many times that it almost doesn't affect me anymore. i no longer apologize for my passion. if someone is too weak to take a stand then too bad!!! as for me, i shall contend, MWA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I love this thread, I relate to all of it!
No need to be repetitive, but yes, I've been told this my entire life.. mostly by people who get to know me well and my family. To acquaintances, I am more laid back and easy going. But if I let you in, prepared for some intensity :).
The Dan Keizer
06-26-2012, 12:52 PM
I think I have a habit of bringing up topics that most people consider taboo in social situations, and I will initiate conversations that most people would consider inappropriate or embarrassing.
I am always the friend that tells somebody that they are fucking up, or that they are clearly wrong, or that whatever. (For example I had a friend as a teenager that started doing heroin and was on a clear path to overdose/suicide, I spoke to his parents about it while the rest of his "better" friends laughed about it or talked shit about him behind his back.)
I am the type to tell somebody that their fly is down, or that they have lint in their hair while others ignore it.
So I guess I am similar to the OP, yeah.
Oros Ull
06-26-2012, 01:35 PM
I can be. I’m not a particularly emotional person, typically I’m a very relaxed go with the flow kind of guy and I usually keep my feelings and opinions to myself. But every now and then something will tug a string in me and I will get pretty serious. If I’m properly motivated to do something I tend to get it done pretty efficiently. I kind of need a good reason though or else I just can’t take it seriously. But once I make up my mind I become much more dominating, straightforward and analytical. I only get like that when it’s really necessary and quick complicated decisions need to be made, but I try to stay alert to situations like that. But it takes to much energy for me to want to be that way all the time, I prefer to maintain in a laxer atmosphere when I can help it.
I've been called intense very often. I have also been called not-intense-enough, but that doesn't happen on the same scale.
admittedheretic
06-29-2012, 06:01 AM
I've heard the same countless times. Enough to the point where there apparently is a problem with my behavior, but I just can't help myself. Even here on the forum I usually find my posts to be ten times the length of most without saying anything that could possibly interest another person.
I had posted the above in May 2010. Since then, I've been diagnosed with ADHD and several anxiety disorders which at least help me understand my past behaviors and how I felt others perceived me. I've also come to understand that there are times when I get 'excited' about something and the tone I use, both vocally and linguistically, often makes people feel like I'm being aggressive, an asshole, combative, and/or defensive. In light of such, 'intense' doesn't sound so bad. Having ADHD, boredom drives me insane and I think people like me tend to develop coping mechanisms to avoid the boredom by having routine, fixed, deep, and 'intense' interests or thoughts. However, sometimes it is my anxiety filling my body and mind with adrenaline and that's when I tend to get in conflict with others.
spectre14
06-29-2012, 10:56 AM
Many times yes. I have to remind myself to turn it down a few notches most of the time.
Nemesis
06-30-2012, 01:15 PM
I'm pretty laid-back most of the time. I am a very passionate person about my goals and ambitions, but that tends to manifest itself as a quiet reserved intensity rather than the "in your fucking face" sort. If the time calls for it to be in your face, it will. If something is peripheral to my ambitions, I'm nearly apathetic about it. No sense getting worked up over minutia. Waste of energy.
I know some really intense people who always need to talk over others or get their way in every little thing, no matter how trivial. I tend to avoid these people or limit my time around them. Annoying.
Saggita
06-30-2012, 01:20 PM
I'm pretty laid-back most of the time. I am a very passionate person about my goals and ambitions, but that tends to manifest itself as a quiet reserved intensity rather than the "in your fucking face" sort. If the time calls for it to be in your face, it will. If something is peripheral to my ambitions, I'm nearly apathetic about it. No sense getting worked up over minutia. Waste of energy.
I know some really intense people who always need to talk over others or get their way in every little thing, no matter how trivial. I tend to avoid these people or limit my time around them. Annoying.
Basically me. There are bigger things to waste my energy on than to prove I am right to every single person in every single discussion. Once the thing starts to go into the circles, I step back and let the person think whatever they want.
Not my business.
omega2
06-30-2012, 08:56 PM
Echoing many people, yes. For some reason though, people don't use the word intense...
People call me too argumentative, say I take things too far (by entertaining myself with argument?), and sometimes say I'm mean.
I don't understand how I'm too argumentative because I only debate topics of relative importance to me, not mundane things like weather or relationships, and I often leave people alone anyway.
I don't know what too far is to them, but I don't go too far for me, and a lot if times people call me mean for pointing out something not particularly important. I say that people don't make sense or that a lot of people are stupid and/ or overly materialistic and then people turn to me as if I called them those things. I didn't; I said that there are people that exist who have those characteristics.
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As a final note, I'd think that being called intense or argumentative may be a prerequisite to being an INTJ. It's not really possible for an INTJ to always be lighthearted. Sure we can do it,but not always.
Lady B
07-02-2012, 03:28 PM
I am intense in that I think about things really deeply. I get in the zone, and when I'm there I've been told I give off an angry, aloof, don't talk to me vibe, when really I am not at all upset, just very involved in the world of my head.
In social situations, my intensity is pretty all-or-nothing. In large groups I'm generally quiet, there to listen and throw in the occasional one-liner, whereas I'm much more comfortable in a one-on-one conversation, particularly of the intellectual or philosophical variety, where I can utilize my intensity to its full potential.
MikeAZ
07-02-2012, 04:09 PM
My lack of skill with small talk often outs me as “intense”. I would pay a great deal to have a good conversational short game.
It comes out pretty often after a movie.
Friend: Hey Mike what did you think of the movie?
Me: I liked it, but the political undertones were annoying and didn’t have anything to do with the story.
Friend: What undertones?
…
Now we are in an hour long conversation about politics and media bias…
Eyedears
07-17-2012, 01:46 AM
Friend: Hey Mike what did you think of the movie?
Me: I liked it, but the political undertones were annoying and didn’t have anything to do with the story.
Friend: What undertones?
…
Now we are in an hour long conversation about politics and media bias…LOL! That's me & my mother to a "T." I'm assuming that the "Mikes" are all non-N's...
Tactical Panda
07-17-2012, 01:48 AM
It depends on how much of myself I share.
Some people would say yes.
Moxiie
07-17-2012, 02:33 AM
Depends on the situation. If someone has challenged my Fi driven values, I become very intense very quickly....have made more than one grown man cry at these times - true story and I'm a (gasp!) ENFP. :laugh:
I'm always being told that I'm intense, very serious and intimidating IRL...which is strange because I'm very chill and accepting of pretty much everyone and everything. Everyone who knows me well knows this. I guess my passive face presents that to the world. *shrugs*
LifesEcstasy
07-17-2012, 04:09 AM
I'm universally considered to be too blunt. Somewhere along the line I didn't get the memo that we don't point out SNAFU's in the workplace. I continually fail to pretend the elephant in the room does not exist. This is a constant source of joy and delight to my immediate manager who now has the full-time job of politically shuffling me out of her experience. But hey, if I didn't give a fuck, then she would have to attend to emails and other trivia instead.
I've had F types burst into tears in my presence when all I did was point out some fact, I even sugar-coated it. I'm beginning to wonder if the rest of the world has hormonal issues. Intensity however, is not an adjective I've ever heard thrown in my direction. Plenty of other ones though.
YES! Even from an early age my mother was continually nagging me to "tone it down".
This forum is incredible. Even if by our very nature as INTJ´s we don´t socialize much, even with each other, it´s comforting in some sense to know there´s like-operating people out there. I wouldn´t want to change anything about myself, but it can be exhausting to some extent to invariably be the odd one out.-
Metabeard
07-17-2012, 09:24 AM
It's funny, I've always been a pretty reserved and relaxed person, but the things I do tend to be rather intense. Like the music I make, for instance, is pretty intense, and if someone meets me after hearing my music first, they're often very surprised at how toned down I am. I think most people want, or need, to express themselves, and I'm rather too introverted to do so face to face with strangers. But when DJing or performing, the instrument is like a mask under which I can get all of it out. Performing to a faceless mass of people, is much easier than performing for 1 or 2.
LiamN
07-17-2012, 11:57 AM
Ha! My entire life I've been told I'm "too intense!"
My voice is deep, loud, and it carries! So that adds to it as well.
I rarely speak about things I'm not passionate about.
People say that I am very blunt, and that I have no filter. I tend to disagree. My words can be filtered, just not to their liking. I am considered brutally honest, but if I didn't hold back at all I'd probably be attacked or have no friends. Actually, by my definition, I don't have friends. But there are many people that consider their selves my friends. Good acquaintances would be more suiting to me. I'm getting off track...
I can turn any conversation into a political conversation. And extremely easy to do so since the government seems to have it's hands in everything under the sun. (See!)
It seems to be that whenever I meet new people, they only respond to smalltalk, and or mindless talk about entertainment. There are many important issues in this world and talking about sports isn't solving problems. Most people seem to be on a mental vacation.
I can watch television/films and see the predictive programming oh so clearly. Not to mention the neuro linguistic programming almost everywhere as well. For people that don't care to study human behavior and history, you'll be left in the dark.
I also love philosophical conversations.
(During this message I've been scrolling up looking at other posts. So there maybe some confusion as to whom I'm responding. It makes sense to me though, so...
I'll try to remember to insert people's quotes so you all know what I'm referring to next time.)
Machine
07-17-2012, 12:50 PM
Mr. Intense here! Sometimes it is so hard not to prove that I am right.
sagesoph
07-19-2012, 06:20 PM
I am intense both externally and internally, not all the time, but a lot. If I were to describe a tone that fits my inner intensity, it would be high pitched.
Typhon
07-19-2012, 09:14 PM
Most of my friends consider me to be very intense, both in demeanor and in the way I live. I've also been called erratic, scary, and emotionally distant. I imagine those qualities to be mutually exclusive to some degree but whatever.
Tejeira
07-20-2012, 11:41 AM
Yes a million times yes.
This. Hear it alot. My whole life.
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Do people consider you "too much" in some fashion? How so? Why? Theories are welcome.
I hear:
1.) Have too many ideas.
2.) Talk too fast. Talk too much about ideas. Brain moves too quickly between topics.
3.) Think too much/overanalyze on how I can benefit or learn from a scenario
4.) Exhibit extreme behaviors/risktaking.
5.) Have too many friends and social activites/influences.
6.) Challenge people/Ask "why???" too much/can be invasive when confronted with irrational, dogmatic points of view.
7.) Make radical changes quickly, independently. (Like snap decision to move from FL to DC, not knowing anyone up here. Best decision ever. Needed to be out of the Bible Belt and away from overbearing/but caring family.
8.) Too outgoing. Too friendly. Drink too much/club too much at times.
9.) Too indiscrete and candid. Tell people very personal stuff about myself, because I like to analyze it OR entertain people with stories of my shenanigans.
10.) Too silly/immature/jokester OR too rigid/serious/dark.
11.) Too mean/brutally honest.
12.) Too intensely sexual, both in how much I candidly and inappropriately talk about it with just about any friend, and physically how intense I am.
13.) Dance intensely/listen to music constantly/too intense about my music obsession.
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Yes. When my mind fixates on something, I obsess and get overzealous about it. However, I'm also ADHD, so those fixations are constantly changing.
As a result, people who befriend me and start spending time with me consistently, on average, lose around 10 lbs. That's how exhausting I apparently am. :!blank:
Same page. I read this is an ENTP thing? Have read ENTP's exhaust others with an endless stream of idea, theories, debate, prodding, poking, joking, mental activity.
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I will initiate conversations that most people would consider inappropriate
This.
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I've had F types burst into tears in my presence when all I did was point out some fact, I even sugar-coated it.
This. Many times.
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I take life by the shoulders, look it in the eyes and headbutt it until it passes out. Fuck yeah I'm considered intense.
BTW, it feels so good to have found this forum, and found people who are also intense!!!
(albeit INTJ vs. ENTP we demonstrate it in different ways, but both very intense types.)
Sometimes, out in the world, I can start to feel like a freak.
INTJalexander
07-22-2012, 09:57 PM
O.O
This post has been fav'd! Did I write all these posts in my sleep?
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