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I recently applied for the pilot education in the navy, does anyone have experience in this subject?
I passed the first intelligence tests btw, and I know the next selections will include a MBTI...
Santana28
04-02-2008, 10:17 AM
Interesting. I wanted to be a military pilot. Good luck with all of that.
Yes, I find aviation facinating, toghether with modern technology in general.
Still, I have the idea that the election centre are not looking for INTJ's...
I could easily cheat the MBTI, but I don't think that would do any good, because if I have to do that, I'm probably not fit for the job anyway.
Santana28
04-02-2008, 11:14 AM
I could easily cheat the MBTI, but I don't think that would do any good, because if I have to do that, I'm probably not fit for the job anyway.
spoken like a true INTJ :)
i still hope to get my private pilot's license some day. i just LOVE military aviation - ever since i was a little girl (i grew up in Dayton Ohio so it was easy) i would sit outside staring up at the fighter planes and cargo jets overhead. I still go back for the air show every year. Its something that i regret not trying for, although odds are i wouldn't have made it anyways. So if you have the opportunity - don't pass it up, unless you want to live like me always thinking about what might have been. Even if you wash out, you can say you tried your best and you just weren't "fit for the job" anyways :)
Thank you for supporting. I am very facinated by fighter planes especially. Concidering "my" generation will be the first or second generation to fly the new F-35, I really think the possible reward for trying is unlimited.
When talking about PPL, I took the theory exam when I was 16. Since then I have not taken many practical lessons, because I can't afford spending the money if I have the opportunity to try get my education for free in the Norwegian Air Force.
Zilal
04-02-2008, 01:05 PM
I'm assuming you mean INTJs despite the title... I should think INTJs would make excellent pilots. But they, hey, I tend to think a well-balanced INTJ could be excellent at just about anything.
henfant
04-02-2008, 01:55 PM
After playing Flight Simulator and self-studying I went on a 2h teaser on a 5-seat Cessna... one of the most boring experiences in my life. Of course I didn't land, but other than that it was soooo disappointing!
Anyway, I am planning to go next Autumn for a 3-week crash course in Florida to get my Private Pilot License. It is about the challenge, I guess.
But as usual, once I scratch the surface of some subject I considered interesting, lots of Gods fall down. This time is pilots. Massively overrated.
Damn, I overlooked the title. Sorry. I do off course mean INTJ's.
I did think about programming (surprise!) but I have found out with myself I want to become a pilot, preferrably military. Airline pilot is secondary, while the programming thing is third priority. I feel I can sit down and learn C++ whenever I want, but only have one shot on F-16 (and later F-35)...
henfant
04-02-2008, 02:06 PM
After playing Flight Simulator and self-studying I went on a 2h teaser on a 5-seat Cessna... one of the most boring experiences in my life. Of course I didn't land, but other than that it was soooo disappointing!
Anyway, I am planning to go next Autumn for a 3-week crash course in Florida to get my Private Pilot License. It is about the challenge, I guess.
But as usual, once I scratch the surface of some subject I considered interesting, lots of Gods fall down. This time is pilots. Massively overrated.
Hang on, F35? my respect
Santana28
04-02-2008, 11:31 PM
I sit in a security vehicle and literally drive in circles for 8 hours a day at 15mph or less... as long as i have my Ipod, i'm in bliss. some day i hope to own a seaplane :) or an Me-262. whichever comes first....
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Moriarty
04-05-2008, 12:13 PM
Santana, are you a vintage aviation enthusiast? Your reference to the Me-262 tipped me off.
By the way, I love the museum at dayton.
Santana28
04-05-2008, 01:31 PM
Santana, are you a vintage aviation enthusiast? Your reference to the Me-262 tipped me off.
By the way, I love the museum at dayton.
absolutely. i'm in love with old warplanes... and new ones ;)
i keep correspondence with military pilots online... i used to know a fellow who was an official military photographer, and he would fly along in jets and take in-flight images... he would send me all sorts of beautiful images. i wish i kept up contact with him.
i grew up next to the airfield where the the Wright "B" Flyer replica is housed and it was not uncommon to look up into the sky and see that aircraft lumbering slowly above the treetops ;)
The mayor of our small town was also an aviation enthusiast and would often have mock dogfights in his biplane right over my grandmother's back yard!
acyckowski
04-05-2008, 04:18 PM
Your INTJ-ness should be a positive, from what I can tell.
First of all, though, understand that the military in general is less hostile to NT's than you would expect. I recently read a study that found upwards of 30% of mid-career Army officers tested as NT....of course, around 60% tested SJ. This doesn't necessarily carry over to the enlisted ranks, but as a prospective pilot, you really don't have to worry about it.
Military aviation is an interesting beast. A pilot is expected not only to have good eyesight and quick reflexes, but an ability to quickly grasp his situation, develop options, analyze the options, decide on an option, act, and then assess the results of his actions. Repeat about a hundred times a second, and that's the kind of mental agility required. Sounds pretty xNTJ to me. Pilots, as a whole, have a lot more autonomy than other specialties, largely because they have to.
The inventor of the OODA loop (Observe-Orient-Decide-Act) was a USAF pilot, and if you get a chance to look at in full detail, I think you'll agree it's the work of an NT. My older brother, whom I suspect strongly as an INTJ, has flown fighters for 25 years. My own career has, from time to time, pitted me against some particularly troublesome SJ's, but that has not been so much different than my time in Corporate America.
Your biggest concern is physical perfection: not in the sense that you are as beautiful as I am, but that you're healthy as a horse and your eyes and hearing are at least normal.
Donotboreme
07-10-2008, 05:21 AM
I'm an off-scale INTJ and I was an airline pilot for a while. To me, the biggest pro of the job was the fact that I basically used my brains and skills to fly a complex airplane with safety and confidence. The schedule was relaxed and the view from the office was astounding! What's more, there was never anybody bitching at me (like a boss). I was trusted to do my job and always viewed as a competent aviator. The cons included lack of creativity, routine, low pay (initially), lots of time away from home and the realization that I'd essentially be doing the same routine every day for the rest of my career.
Military aviation is different, especially for the fighter types. They are generally highly aggressive type-A personalities (most, but not all). They are extremely cocky and full of themselves, but that is a trait the military likes to engender in them, mostly because they are out there alone in a machine that could very easily kill them, if the enemy doesn't get them first. People in those conditions need to be very confident of themselves.
In any case, I posted a blurb on another thread about my impressions of being a pilot. My take was this: If I had to do it over, I'd want a job as a freight pilot on some turbine-powered single-pilot airplane. No politics, no boss, no passengers, no baloney; just me and my airplane.
Hope this helps.
I once considered it, too, and I might make it a back-up career in case this whole software development thing goes south. I've also considered getting a coast guard license.
The major downside to flying is that it seems:
a) Monotonous.
b) Dangerous.
c) Very attentive-SJ.
I'm rather inattentive in some respects and bad at keeping schedules, so it might not be a good thing for someone like me, but great for someone else.
However, transporting people doesn't interest me at all. I'd rather be a package delivery pilot and/or bush pilot, since it'd be far more entertaining and dramatically less stressful.
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