INTJs Love Science Fiction?

[sriv]

I am curious as to whether the INTJ's natural tendency to put idealism into reality would make them predisposed to like the science fiction genre.

I myself love science fiction and consider it my favorite genre. Especially Orson Scott Card and Isaac Asimov.

[Haphazard]

I'm not particularly fond of science fiction. I tend to go for satire or even urban fantasy. The only science fiction I'd say that I really like is Kurt Vonnegut, and that'd be under satire.

I personally hated Ender's Game.

[Lucan]

I am curious as to whether the INTJ's natural tendency to put idealism into reality would make them predisposed to like the science fiction genre.

I myself love science fiction and consider it my favorite genre. Especially Orson Scott Card and Isaac Asimov.

I personally loved Orson Scott Card's ' Alvin the Maker' series. As for INTJ's and science fiction it is a possiblity but depends on personal taste.

[Emma]

Not a big fan of science fiction either. Can't read fantasy, but I love anticipation stories, not with ET beings or guilds, but in a setting not so different from ours, something that "might be, someday".

Firefly and Gattaca are my favorite.

[DeadSpace]

Sci-fi, or fantasy, reading alot easier than sitting through movies. Though, there is a movie...wonder if anyone else has that experience when reading. A good book and i don't really see the words anymore, but a movie in my head. Reading/flipping pages goes to autopilot. As the movie plays out.

[Homini Lupus]

I'm quite a fan of science fiction, at least the one who tries to find the most important trends of our world and exploit them, using science fiction as a workbench to test those trends. Like Philip Kindred Dick did.
I'm also an enthousiast of Valerio Evangelisti's Eymerich series wich are sometimes defined as science fiction (it has some elements of SF but he's quite above cathegories).
I also like more visionaire views science fiction can have. And here we are again to PK Dick.

[Myrak]

Nah, never really got into Sci-Fi in any form of media.

But this thread has reminded me that I need to read Stranger in a Strange Land. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[Moriarty]

Sci-fi is my favorite. No doubt about it!

I am a huge Douglas Adams fan. I love that guy's style, wit and detatched sense of humor. He must have been the epitome of INTJ.

[TheLastMohican]

I like science fiction, but I do not think it because of idealism. I generally prefer the more dystopian side of the genre.

Of course, a lot of the appeal is in the special effects, like in The Matrix.

[Lucan]

Sci-fi is my favorite. No doubt about it!

I am a huge Douglas Adams fan. I love that guy's style, wit and detatched sense of humor. He must have been the epitome of INTJ.

I loved the depressed robot and my personal favourite the genetically programmed cow that comes and offers itself to you for food then says' Excuse me one moment while I go shoot myself' . Absolutely hilarious.:laugh:

[Moriarty]

Yes! A fan!

He was a brilliant writer and the world (not just the literary world) suffered a loss when he died.

[Lucan]

I agree with you on that. I also find that the whole Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy was better the Dirk Gently Detective Agency. There were very good parts but I just personally prefer the Hitchhiker.

[Moriarty]

I preferred the Hitchhiker series as well, but overall the "electric monk" was my favorite piece by him overall. Geez I was rolling.

[Lucan]

Oh yes. He was brilliant, you know I loved the way that Adams would have different things happening and the way he wrote was so dead pan but funny. I had a friend say to me the other day that she is reading a series that is so weird and has such a warped sense of humour that she thought of me. And I take that as a compliment, and yes she's reading the Hitchhiker series. :thumbsup:

[Moriarty]

That's awesome. I'd consider it a compliment if someone compared me to his writing (as long as they didn't compare me to a Vogon).

[Claptonian]

I like science fiction that uses a simple alternate world to put forth ideas relevant to our own world (Firefly, The Matrix, even Star Wars).

I can't stand science fiction that presents a needlessly complicated world that requires you to become so bogged down in its workings that the parts of the story that are relevant to our world become almost secondary (Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica).

[The Rose]

I am curious as to whether the INTJ's natural tendency to put idealism into reality would make them predisposed to like the science fiction genre.

I myself love science fiction and consider it my favorite genre. Especially Orson Scott Card and Isaac Asimov.They're supposed to like it, but I can't stand it. It's too frightening.

[TheLastMohican]

They're supposed to like it, but I can't stand it. It's too frightening.

Um...what? Do explain.

[The Rose]

Um...what? Do explain.Science fiction scares me. It makes me think scary thoughts. It makes me imagine scary things that aren't there. It makes me worry about fake things that will never happen. Probably because I'm a very visual person. Pictures stay in my mind for a long time. And I don't like the way the aliens are always so ugly or ever gorey - not that I have seen that much science fiction.

When I was a little girl, my father was watching a movie about aliens with long nails coming to earth and stabbing cows - I only mention it because who knows... it's probably a classic - anyway, over 40 years later, it still scares me just thinking about it.

[INTJoe]

I am not a fan of sci-fi, nor are the two other INTJs that I know well (father and friend). I think my INTP buddy is way more a fan than any of us.

I do enjoy Vonnegut's stories. Maybe I prefer reading sci-fi over watching sci-fi, because I get to picture it in my head instead of watching what some producers think the future is going to look like.

I always laugh when I see a movie set 20 years in the future and they're showing flying cars and personal robots and all this absurd crap. They've been telling us we'd all have a personal robot since the '80s. :laugh:

Maybe that is why I don't like sci-fi.

[TheLastMohican]

Science fiction scares me. It makes me think scary thoughts. It makes me imagine scary things that aren't there. It makes me worry about fake things that will never happen. Probably because I'm a very visual person. Pictures stay in my mind for a long time. And I don't like the way the aliens are always so ugly or ever gorey - not that I have seen that much science fiction.

When I was a little girl, my father was watching a movie about aliens with long nails coming to earth and stabbing cows - I only mention it because who knows... it's probably a classic - anyway, over 40 years later, it still scares me just thinking about it.

Have you seen Signs? I won't give anything away, except that is a very suspenseful and masterfully crafted film with a spectacular climax and practically no violence or gore. You get scared, of course, but no disturbing images.

[Myrak]

Have you seen Signs? I won't give anything away, except that is a very suspenseful and masterfully crafted film with a spectacular climax and practically no violence or gore. You get scared, of course, but no disturbing images.

The movie "Signs" in four easy steps (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

Possible spoilers :p

No, I haven't seen the movie, but that's just the first thing I thought of when I read your post.

[Claptonian]

You get scared, of course, but no disturbing images.

No, just disturbingly idiotic plot points. :laugh:

[TheLastMohican]

The movie "Signs" in four easy steps (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

Possible spoilers :p

No, I haven't seen the movie, but that's just the first thing I thought of when I read your post.

That review reeks of unintelligence, IMHO. It's fine if the guy didn't like the movie, but why try to compare it to porn?





TheLastMohican added to this post, 1 minutes and 56 seconds later...

No, just disturbingly idiotic plot points. :laugh:

I normally dislike movies that feature aliens, since the whole concept of an invasion is preposterous. But the film was so creatively put together that I am willing to allow that stretch and focus on the other elements.

[Claptonian]

I normally dislike movies that feature aliens, since the whole concept of an invasion is preposterous. But the film was so creatively put together that I am willing to allow that stretch and focus on the other elements.

The other elements are what makes it so preposterous to me. An invasion isn't totally ridiculous, but using that invasion to sell the particular message of "Signs" is hilariously misguided.

[Ytterbium]

I have never liked Sci-fi or fantasy. I like real life stories pure and raw. I don't like things which is completely unrealistic or made up.

[Haphazard]

I like things where unrealism is made realistic.

Science fiction is fine, but I don't believe in a future where everything is covered in chrome. I love to watch human nature smear its greasy fingers all over spec fic. It becomes realistic that way.

'Completely unrealistic' and 'made-up' are two entirely different things, one not equating with the other...

[TheLastMohican]

The other elements are what makes it so preposterous to me. An invasion isn't totally ridiculous, but using that invasion to sell the particular message of "Signs" is hilariously misguided.

You're an agnostic, right? Or atheist? You might have the wrong idea of what the message was.

But if not, could you explain more about the "hilariously misguided" part? I don't understand what is wrong with such a method. It is simply using a catastrophe as a central reason for the "preparations" of...uh, wait, should we really be discussing this here? I'll start a thread where those who don't mind spoilers can go.

But one last thing: Even if you don't see the movie, listen to the score. It is a very underrated soundtrack.

[pallasathena]

I'm not a big sci-fi reader, or fiction reader for that matter. The only books I've read that may qualify as sci-fi are Dean Koontz's Fear Nothing and Seize the Night. He's one of the few fiction writers I like. Normally, I read biographies and self-help stuff. Oh, I forgot about another book I read in high school called The Lathe of Heaven. I don't know who wrote it but it was good.

[TheLastMohican]

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Above is the new Signs thread.

[Merle]

Oh, I forgot about another book I read in high school called The Lathe of Heaven. I don't know who wrote it but it was good.

ahhhhh, my absolute favourite SF writer : Ursula K. Le Guin :)

I adore Science Fiction, I'm an English lit' student and get sneered at constantly for reading it, I just smile happily to myself and feel sorry for the sneerers and what they're missing out on. Of course a lot of SF is trash, but so is a lot of everything.

Anyway... favourite authors, well, LeGuin, obviously... Ballard, Aldiss, Ted Chiang, P.K. Dick, M. John Harrison, John Wyndham, and loads more.

[The Rose]

Have you seen Signs? I won't give anything away, except that is a very suspenseful and masterfully crafted film with a spectacular climax and practically no violence or gore. You get scared, of course, but no disturbing images.I don't like suspense or scary things. I can't watch horror. Romantic Comedy is my favorite movie genre.

I jump and scream when watching movies that aren't even supposed to be scary! Startle reflex is wound up too tight, I guess.

[TheLastMohican]

I don't like suspense or scary things. I can't watch horror. Romantic Comedy is my favorite movie genre.

I jump and scream when watching movies that aren't even supposed to be scary! Startle reflex is wound up too tight, I guess.

That's too bad. The final scene of Signs is one of the best in movie history, IMHO.

Romantic comedy...I dislike that genre a lot. I do like Music and Lyrics, because it contains so much more than a normal romantic comedy. The music industry really had that comedic bashing coming.

[Claptonian]

There are some really top-notch romantic comedies, like "When Harry Met Sally" and "Love Actually." Two of my favorite movies.

I have no tolerance for the cookie cutter rom-coms, though, like "You've Got Mail" or "How to Lose A Guy in 10 Days." They make me want to kill myself.

[Lucan]

There are some really top-notch romantic comedies, like "When Harry Met Sally" and "Love Actually." Two of my favorite movies.

I have no tolerance for the cookie cutter rom-coms, though, like "You've Got Mail" or "How to Lose A Guy in 10 Days." They make me want to kill myself.

Why kill yourself? Graphically plan what do could do to the script writers. * insert evil laugh here*. Far more fun. :devilish:

[errrzarrr]

I used to read Isaac Asimov like 5 years ago, but not anymore. I am conscius he is a genius and very original anyway. But, I dislike sci-fi, I even don't know what's so great on Star Wars or Star Trek. I dont see futurist supertech sci-fi either.

[Lucan]

I used to read Isaac Asimov like 5 years ago, but not anymore. I am conscius he is a genius and very original anyway. But, I dislike sci-fi, I even don't know what's so great on Star Wars or Star Trek. I dont see futurist supertech sci-fi either.

So what do you like then? Anything in this sort of field or not?

[polysylvester]

That's awesome. I'd consider it a compliment if someone compared me to his writing (as long as they didn't compare me to a Vogon).
When my boys were younger, and before they made the Hitchhicker's Guide into a movie, I used to read the Hitchhiker's Guide out loud to my boys. They loved it, and would be rolling on the floor laughing, literally.

I have always liked all kinds of sci-fi. I think I read every single sci-fi book in our school library.

[Tinmaiden]

Card and Asimov? I love them. Therefore I love you. Or at least acknowledge your brilliant taste in literature.

I've loved sci-fi since I walked in on my parents watching Star Trek: First Contact. I thought that Data was about the coolest thing ever at four years old, and still do.

[lordrrr]

Finished reading book one of Hellgate London and it was awesome.

[suzyk]

I like science-fiction games, but I can't stand the books. I think the only science-fiction books/franchise I've ever really liked is Halo. I still like it.

[Cuivienen]

I only "noticed" science fiction books about a 6 months ago, but since then I have read a good dozen of them and really liked most of them. So far they were mostly Robert Anson Heinlein`s books, but I`ve been wanting to read something from Asimov to see what his are like. :book: So many books, so little time...

[sriv]

Science fiction media most probably appeals to youth because it is visual and creative. Movies like the Matrix, I Robot, Transformers. Shows like Star Trek. Personally I agree with the rest of us that the literature is the best. The social satires are perhaps the greatest --- Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron", Orwell's 1984, Huxley's Brave New World.

[Jon]

I don't make a habit of reading word books, so I haven't read many science fiction stories (save for a handful of dystopia novels), but I do love some science fiction television. I also thing it's inappropriately dismissive to say that most of the appeal comes from the visuals.

Last weekend I watched the first V miniseries. The first "episode" was great, but the second was not. Subtlety was not its strong point, considering it quickly devolved into telling me again and again that Nazis are bad. Still, the first "episode" did a great job of setting the mood and building intrigue. Hopefully the proposed sequel that's in the works (that supposedly ignores the second miniseries and the TV show) will come to fruition.

Star Trek is just as much about social critique as (and at times, is just as good at it as, if not better than) any book, despite how many terrible episodes about Deanna Troi getting impregnated by space light and having advanced alien babies there are. DS9 ended in 1999, but so many episodes examine the reasons and justifications for terrorism in surprisingly nuanced ways that you can't help but see how relevant it is today. Also, TNG's The Drumhead was so good.

As far as underwatched shows go, Farscape is definitely my favorite. I'm amazed that Stargate managed to last 10 seasons (with bookend movies), and a spin-off, but Farscape could only manage four seasons and a miniseries. I can't really get into Star Wars too much, though. I guess it always seemed too archetypal for me.