Who Runs?

[Solaris]

I run, quite a bit by the average person's standard (about 20+ miles a week), but not in comparison to most runners. I picked up running about 2.5 years ago. I had always wanted to be a runner, but hated it because I wasn't good at it. I think most younger people don't have the sort of desire and discipline to just take up running for fun, not unless it's something that's already a part of their family.

At this point, my short runs are what my long runs used to be -- anything less than 3 miles isn't worth going out the door for anymore. I am about to run my first half-marathon in a week.

I am much more aware of what's going on with my body, and I like that. Perhaps this is a function of my tertiary Se, as it makes me relaxed and it's only through this intense type of activity that I become very aware of what's going on with my body.

So who else runs? How far do you run? What hydration methods do you like? Do you take food with you, what kind? Run with music, without? Gear preferences? Injury prevention ideas, cross-training tips?

[Motor Jax]

i like to run, though i haven't been able to in the last couple of months

plus, for this year, i need to get new shoes

but i love to run to music with a camelback on

i can't take snacks with me since they seem to cramp me up pretty bad

i usually alternate between 3-7 miles each time

i love it once i am in the continual motion and a comfortable pace

but yea, i love bringing music with me

i also do a lot of biking

[l345l]

i ran quite a lot last year to become more physically active.
lately, i've lacked the time, the energy and the motivation to jump out of the door with my adidas :) trainers.
all i can manage right now is biking an hour a day to get to and from school.

hopefully, after all the studying and cramming that will creep up in the following months, i will be able to focus much more on my running.

[Jgib5328]

I run as a supplement to my weight lifting routine, I don't really run just for the enjoyment though. I run 3 miles 5 days a week, so 15 miles a week I guess.

[Solaris]

i like to run, though i haven't been able to in the last couple of months

plus, for this year, i need to get new shoes

but i love to run to music with a camelback on

i can't take snacks with me since they seem to cramp me up pretty bad

i usually alternate between 3-7 miles each time

i love it once i am in the continual motion and a comfortable pace

but yea, i love bringing music with me

i also do a lot of biking

I went to a place the specializes in running equipment. It's more for the same shoes as some other places, but the service is worth it to me.

I've just started running with my camelback. I had hesitated because I thought it would be annoying, but it's not. I love the ease of it, and the ability to carry some other important things.

Warming up and settling into my pace is sometimes difficult too. Once I do, and I really settle, I can run forever (woohoo to runner's high!).

Do you listen to music more to distract, or more to enhance your focus? For instance, I listen to a lot of wordless techno. Sometimes, though, I'll listen to something with words, because I just want total mental and physical distraction.

Clif Bloks work well for me. It gives me enough energy to get through long runs (by long, I mean 10+ miles) when I would otherwise bonk. I've tried Jelly Belly Sport Beans and liked them ok too. Clif Bloks seem better, but I have to cut them in half.





Solaris added to this post, 1 minutes and 13 seconds later...

i ran quite a lot last year to become more physically active.
lately, i've lacked the time, the energy and the motivation to jump out of the door with my adidas :) trainers.
all i can manage right now is biking an hour a day to get to and from school.

hopefully, after all the studying and cramming that will creep up in the following months, i will be able to focus much more on my running.

Running gives me more ability to focus on all those things. Maybe it helps quiet my E restlessness and lets me focus.

[MissDistant]

I also run in addition to weight training.

4-5 days a week. Weather permitting, about 6 miles a day. If I have to be inside on a treadmill, 3 miles is really all I have the patience for.

Cheesy pop music tends to enhance focus. Yay Britney! (I can't believe I admitted that.)

no food/drink. I know better, but find it to be a distraction.

[Moriarty]

I sometimes run for more than 3 or 4 miles, but not often. I get pretty bored and my mind really starts to wander. What I really enjoy doing is a brisk 2 mile run which to me is a timed event that I try to improve upon.

I'll never run a marathon unless a lion is chasing me.

[Solaris]

I also run in addition to weight training.

4-5 days a week. Weather permitting, about 6 miles a day. If I have to be inside on a treadmill, 3 miles is really all I have the patience for.

Cheesy pop music tends to enhance focus. Yay Britney! (I can't believe I admitted that.)

no food/drink. I know better, but find it to be a distraction.

I can't run on a treadmill anymore. It feels so unnatural and misleading (misleading because I can go much longer on a treadmill) -- plus it's boring! I guess that's why you get impatient with it.

You said weather permitting, that makes me want to know from people what their preferred/acceptable weather is? I will run in almost anything except extreme heat (then I wait and run at night), and extreme cold (although my extreme is many degrees below zero as I used to snowshoe race). I love to run in the rain during the summer, I think that's my favorite.

[Motor Jax]

my ideal weather to run in would have to be high humidity (about 90%) and temp around 85, either sunny or overcast

but not raining

i can't stand water in my shoes while running

and since i've gotten older, i can't do too much of the cold either


i listen to music to both keep myself focus and as a distraction

and once i'm the 'runner's high', i will slowly pick up the pace

can i also include mountain biking and roller-blading too?

[Solaris]

my ideal weather to run in would have to be high humidity (about 90%) and temp around 85, either sunny or overcast

but not raining

i can't stand water in my shoes while running

and since i've gotten older, i can't do too much of the cold either


i listen to music to both keep myself focus and as a distraction

and once i'm the 'runner's high', i will slowly pick up the pace

can i also include mountain biking and roller-blading too?

Why not include them? They are (or can be) intense physical activity too. They are also possibly alternatives for injured runners. I recently strained a calf muscle, that took a good 3 weeks to heal, and I probably wasn't as nice to it as I should have been. I'm reasonably young (29), but realize I need to be cognizant of injuries I will incur, and their potential effects down the road. It's difficult not to overdo things sometimes, because my mind can see more ability than my body at times.

So in this tropical paradise you run in, do you do that during the day? I cannot run in the open sun during weather like that (though that's fairly mild for the summer where I am...lately summers have been pretty consistently high 80s and low 90s). I can run in the shade of the woods, but slower, and feel myself literally wilt when the sun hits me. It's a very odd sensation.

[Motor Jax]

Why not include them? They are (or can be) intense physical activity too. They are also possibly alternatives for injured runners. I recently strained a calf muscle, that took a good 3 weeks to heal, and I probably wasn't as nice to it as I should have been. I'm reasonably young (29), but realize I need to be cognizant of injuries I will incur, and their potential effects down the road. It's difficult not to overdo things sometimes, because my mind can see more ability than my body at times.

So in this tropical paradise you run in, do you do that during the day? I cannot run in the open sun during weather like that (though that's fairly mild for the summer where I am...lately summers have been pretty consistently high 80s and low 90s). I can run in the shade of the woods, but slower, and feel myself literally wilt when the sun hits me. It's a very odd sensation.

yeah, we're about the same age then

i'll include them then, since i love an intense workout

i don't listen to my mp3 when on my bike though cause the only places i have to ride here is in traffic. helmet, reflect vest, bike gloves, and camelback

but i've really got to get new shoes for this next season

which is why i cannot wait for this week to come (i get paid twice)


i love rollerblading, and can be quiet a workout


i want to get a pair of powerisers also

they are the spring loaded stilts, and i've been reading that it can really be a workout

i've been wanting to get a pair since about 2005

[MissDistant]

You said weather permitting, that makes me want to know from people what their preferred/acceptable weather is? I will run in almost anything except extreme heat (then I wait and run at night), and extreme cold (although my extreme is many degrees below zero as I used to snowshoe race). I love to run in the rain during the summer, I think that's my favorite.

I'm in Oregon, but am originally from Arizona. Anything below 53 degrees F I will not run in. Partly because I hate being cold, and partly because I just cannot breathe well in the cooler temps. Wind is also a deal breaker, but rain is tolerable.

My ideal: anything between 75 and 95 degrees F. Clear and blindingly sunny. I love the desert and can barely tolerate Oregon's climate.

[Solaris]

yeah, we're about the same age then

i'll include them then, since i love an intense workout

i don't listen to my mp3 when on my bike though cause the only places i have to ride here is in traffic. helmet, reflect vest, bike gloves, and camelback

but i've really got to get new shoes for this next season

which is why i cannot wait for this week to come (i get paid twice)


i love rollerblading, and can be quiet a workout


i want to get a pair of powerisers also

they are the spring loaded stilts, and i've been reading that it can really be a workout

i've been wanting to get a pair since about 2005

Check out runnersworld.com for some shoe tips, I love that site

Hmm...I would imagine spring-loaded stilts would give you a decent core workout. Your core is what is going to help keep you balanced after all.

I like rollerblading at times too, it's not so hard on my knees. I'm very bad at stopping though, so I refrain a bit.

If you wear inserts, or think you should, get those for your shoe-fitting as well.





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I'm in Oregon, but am originally from Arizona. Anything below 53 degrees F I will not run in. Partly because I hate being cold, and partly because I just cannot breath well in the cooler temps. Wind is also a deal breaker, but rain is tolerable.

My ideal: anything between 75 and 95 degrees F. Clear and blindingly sunny. I love the desert and can barely tolerate Oregon's climate.

I would die in Oregon...or off myself. I need sun. Ideally, I like to run in a slight breeze anywhere from mid-60s to mid-70s during the day, but at a time without intense sun. The US southeast has a limited window for this weather, so I enjoy it while I can.

[MissDistant]

I would die in Oregon...or off myself. I need sun. Ideally, I like to run in a slight breeze anywhere from mid-60s to mid-70s during the day, but at a time without intense sun. The US southeast has a limited window for this weather, so I enjoy it while I can.

heh. yes, the suicide rate is quite high here. I have never missed a person, but the sun is different story.

[Zeinland]

Well, I don't call it running but it an orderly fashion it is... I run because most of my family had high blood pressure, and I was diagnosed 10+ of what I should have, and the doctor strictly told me to start doing ALOT of exercise, so here I am, working the heck out of my body.

[Solaris]

Update on my own running records:

First attempt at a half-marathon this past weekend. I ran it in 2:08:26, placing 44th out of 90 in my age group. For a first attempt, and having no coaching or real training program, I am very happy with this. Of course, I expect the next one to be 10 minutes faster, at least.

[Tenacious B]

I was never much of a runner, but I like to walk, cycle, and climb stairs (work on 10th floor) in addition to lifting.

[acyckowski]

If left to my own devices, I would run only if chased. Weights are more my thing.

However, I'm still subject to an involuntary version of the timed 2-mile event Rac mentioned, so I run grudgingly.

Problem is, I have the frame of a linebacker. Running for long distances, or even medium distances every day, puts a pounding on my joints I just can't put up with anymore. When I was a youngun, sure, but now I can't withstand the abuse the way I used to. I've recently been experimenting with an interval protocol to keep my speed and uptake high, we'll see how that works out.

Fair warning to you thin, long-legged "natural" runners...joint health deteriorates over time, and by the time you notice it might be too late. Be smart with your recovery and supplements, or you'll pay the price my "natural" older brother did. (Double 'scopes)

[Santana28]

i've always wanted to run, but for some reason i absolutely can't handle anything long distant. my dad says we have some sort of hereditary condition that weakens our lungs in the family, but i have no idea what the hell he is talking about. someone told me also that if you have weak shoulder muscles they sag and compress your lungs.

i can be in absolute great physical shape, and still poop out very quickly. and i never get any better. i ran every day in gym class in high school and i still never managed anything above a D, and even that was generous.

any tips?

[Solaris]

i've always wanted to run, but for some reason i absolutely can't handle anything long distant. my dad says we have some sort of hereditary condition that weakens our lungs in the family, but i have no idea what the hell he is talking about. someone told me also that if you have weak shoulder muscles they sag and compress your lungs.

i can be in absolute great physical shape, and still poop out very quickly. and i never get any better. i ran every day in gym class in high school and i still never managed anything above a D, and even that was generous.

any tips?

It took me a year to feel comfortable running. I started running because I was very stressed out, that drove me onward. Listen to your body. Also, maybe go see the doctor. Weakness like that may have a medical cause (for instance, I am prone to iron-deficient anemia).

[Santana28]

It took me a year to feel comfortable running. I started running because I was very stressed out, that drove me onward. Listen to your body. Also, maybe go see the doctor. Weakness like that may have a medical cause (for instance, I am prone to iron-deficient anemia).

well, i have low-blood pressure (runs in his side of the family so that might be what he is talking about) and anemia.... i'm sure both don't help. i also have very poor circulation in my extremities.

[Solaris]

well, i have low-blood pressure (runs in his side of the family so that might be what he is talking about) and anemia.... i'm sure both don't help. i also have very poor circulation in my extremities.


Well the blood pressure could possibly be helped by running I suppose. But the anemia won't. Treat the anemia. It takes me weeks and weeks to fully come back from a bout of that. I get so frustrated with the feeling of weakness while in it, because I know I am capable of more, so I end up feeling lazy.

[Santana28]

I get so frustrated with the feeling of weakness while in it, because I know I am capable of more, so I end up feeling lazy.

you just described me 90% of the time :)

[Solaris]

you just described me 90% of the time :)


Nothing like being unduly hard on yourself is there? Then I get frustrated for being frustrated with reality. It's terrible...

[juchestyle]

Hey Solaris,

How did you do in the marathon?

I use to love to run; but I had an ankle injury and now I can only run sporadically (probably shouldn't). I do 5Ks randomly now. My favorite is the 4th of July Watermelon fun run! I usually wear a 2 foot afro wig as part of my getup!

Because I need not impact workouts I swim a lot. I love the swim, the only issue is that it isn't a very social activity. But I am getting a very well defined chest and shoulders because of it.

[Solaris]

Hey Solaris,

How did you do in the marathon?

I use to love to run; but I had an ankle injury and now I can only run sporadically (probably shouldn't). I do 5Ks randomly now. My favorite is the 4th of July Watermelon fun run! I usually wear a 2 foot afro wig as part of my getup!

Because I need not impact workouts I swim a lot. I love the swim, the only issue is that it isn't a very social activity. But I am getting a very well defined chest and shoulders because of it.

Matthew - Uber Athlete

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It was a half-marathon. A full marathon is hopefully next year.

[Americano]

I usually enjoy running, but I'm not very consistent with it. I'll run anywhere from 2-6 miles, sometimes every day, every other day, or twice in one day. Sometimes I won't even run for a week. Last summer I was so bored I was running 4 miles in the afternoon and 3 in the evening every day.

My favorite running weather would have to be a hot and very overcast day that's threatening to storm. I like running in light rain too and occasionally I'll run in intense heat for extra conditioning.

I ran the Army 10-miler in D.C. two years ago. That was really fun and was also probably the farthest I've ever gone.

On another note, has anybody heard of Dean Karnazes (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)?

At the age of 30 he suddenly decided to become an ultra-marathon runner. He's done a lot of amazing feats and has a pretty inspirational story.

[juchestyle]

Hey Solaris,

I get the impression that INTJ's don't naturally like athletics, unless they dive into it, and then they love it???

I love athletics, and anything outdoors. Great to hear your results, I am impressed!

[Solaris]

Hey Solaris,

I get the impression that INTJ's don't naturally like athletics, unless they dive into it, and then they love it???

I love athletics, and anything outdoors. Great to hear your results, I am impressed!

I know two INTJs who exercise at least as much as I do. They tend to be like me in that they don't just go about it half-assedly.

I, too, love the outdoors. I need to get back into my kayak -- hey a new thread idea!

I've never been able to get into swimming. I love water, I love exercise....I seem to be horribly uncoordinated in the water and just end up snorting the entire contents of the pool instead. (ok, not quite that bad...but it seems that way)



I usually enjoy running, but I'm not very consistent with it. I'll run anywhere from 2-6 miles, sometimes every day, every other day, or twice in one day. Sometimes I won't even run for a week. Last summer I was so bored I was running 4 miles in the afternoon and 3 in the evening every day.

My favorite running weather would have to be a hot and very overcast day that's threatening to storm. I like running in light rain too and occasionally I'll run in intense heat for extra conditioning.

I ran the Army 10-miler in D.C. two years ago. That was really fun and was also probably the farthest I've ever gone.

On another note, has anybody heard of Dean Karnazes (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)?

At the age of 30 he suddenly decided to become an ultra-marathon runner. He's done a lot of amazing feats and has a pretty inspirational story.

Haven't heard of him that I recall, but it's possible. This completely sick part of me thinks it would be simply amazing to run an ultra. I'm pretty sure I'd die from some sort of anemic fit halfway through, I'm hurting from running a simply half-marathon. All this week (2 weeks after the long run) I've been craving meat, meat, and more meat please!! Red meat, anything with iron. I took a step back from running so much and decided to take it a little easy. Tomorrow, though, I'm going to run again...I'm getting stir-crazy.

[juchestyle]

If you ever are close enough to Orlando or Titusville you will have to let me know. There is a place called Mosquito lagoon and it is fantastic for kayaking! Everytime I go I have seen dolphins, manatee, there is a bird sanctuary island there; really amazing stuff. I love to get out there a couple times a year, and I kayak at other locations all around central Florida.

Oh, by the way, there aren't any mosquito's there so don't worry about that.

[Aronnax]

Hey Solaris,

I get the impression that INTJ's don't naturally like athletics, unless they dive into it, and then they love it???

I love athletics, and anything outdoors. Great to hear your results, I am impressed!

I know this wasn't directed at me but as an INTJ I wanted to answer: I love how exercise makes me feel. My body is the most important piece of machinery that I'll ever own and it's an interesting challenge to see how well I can get it to operate. The rewards are excellent; when I take good care of myself I think more clearly and generally have a better mood.

I enjoy "solo" sports like climbing, mountain biking, skiing and surfing. Even if you're doing them in a group the challenge is always about beating yourself. Intense physical activity also gives me a sort of "mental quiet" where I have to focus on the task as hand rather than juggling ideas because I'm bored. As far as running goes it's really about body maintenance. Zoning out with headphones on is kind of rewarding but I'm not into it like the folks who enjoy distance running.

[Solaris]

If you ever are close enough to Orlando or Titusville you will have to let me know. There is a place called Mosquito lagoon and it is fantastic for kayaking! Everytime I go I have seen dolphins, manatee, there is a bird sanctuary island there; really amazing stuff. I love to get out there a couple times a year, and I kayak at other locations all around central Florida.

Oh, by the way, there aren't any mosquito's there so don't worry about that.

Water, sun, birds, dolphins? I want to go now! If only I had the time, I would be there now. Yay for no mosquitos. I grew up in Upstate NY though, so I can handle little biting bastards like that with no problem.

*adds this to reasons to go to Florida*

[dandylion]

I enjoy running also. I like to do it in the morning or at random times during the day when I get the urge (I'm very restless). I wish I had a treadmill because many times at night I can't sleep, and I'd actually rather be running.

[Solaris]

I enjoy running also. I like to do it in the morning or at random times during the day when I get the urge (I'm very restless). I wish I had a treadmill because many times at night I can't sleep, and I'd actually rather be running.

I can't run on treadmills anymore. It's just too artificial and I don't like it. I just take my knife and go running if I feel I must. I am with you on being restless, I can barely stand still, let alone sit still. The exception is when I am reading something I really enjoy.

I'm experimenting again to see if I run better at certain times. I have mostly run in the evenings and at night. I ran this afternoon and I felt pretty good doing it. I had to walk some, but I knew not to overdo it in the heat (it was the first run this year in temps around the mid 80s). Plus, I think that half-marathon did a number on my iron levels and I've felt a little tired again. The outrageous meat cravings are a pretty good indicator too. Sigh. I suppose I'd have a terrible anemic crash after a marathon. It's probably about time to get a doctor's opinion on this. Bleh.

I'm a big supporter of going running right when you feel like it. Call it the SP in me if you like, but if I run when I get the urge to, it's always much better feeling.

[dandylion]

I can't run on treadmills anymore. It's just too artificial and I don't like it. I just take my knife and go running if I feel I must. I am with you on being restless, I can barely stand still, let alone sit still. The exception is when I am reading something I really enjoy.

I'm experimenting again to see if I run better at certain times. I have mostly run in the evenings and at night. I ran this afternoon and I felt pretty good doing it. I had to walk some, but I knew not to overdo it in the heat (it was the first run this year in temps around the mid 80s). Plus, I think that half-marathon did a number on my iron levels and I've felt a little tired again. The outrageous meat cravings are a pretty good indicator too. Sigh. I suppose I'd have a terrible anemic crash after a marathon. It's probably about time to get a doctor's opinion on this. Bleh.

I'm a big supporter of going running right when you feel like it. Call it the SP in me if you like, but if I run when I get the urge to, it's always much better feeling.

Agreed, running on the treadmill isn't as great as being outdoors. I hate that feeling I get as soon as I step off the machine--like I weigh nothing and if someone breathes on me too hard I'm going to fall over. I wish they had some long trails/routes around here. When I was on Vancouver Island a few summers ago they had a beautiful park with trails that seemed to go everywhere on the island. I think they're building something like that where I live, connecting my city and a bunch of others in the county.

Have you tried consuming lots of iron before running (not right before but on the morning of or the day before)?

Where do you put the knife when you go running? I've often heard that one shouldn't run with pointy objects...

[Solaris]

Have you tried consuming lots of iron before running (not right before but on the morning of or the day before)?

Where do you put the knife when you go running? I've often heard that one shouldn't run with pointy objects...


I consume lots of iron daily. My body craves it in foods, and I also take iron tablets. The iron in red meat is one of the most easily absorbed, hence the beef cravings.

The knife goes in my waistband or pocket. It's a folding knife. Your comment about running with pointy things made me laugh, thanks. Frequently, I just take my running partner, who is male, with me, and the problem is solved. We're both trained in martial arts, so we have some skill to defend ourselves (we hope).

[juchestyle]

When I was a much younger man I found that I could exercise well in the morning. Now I find that my best workouts are later in the day. I have wondered if that is something under my control?

[Avid]

I used to do track in high school. I would have been better at the 200 meter since I had good stamina and a lot of burst speed. But I got thrown into long distance since I was the only girl they could convince to do it and the team needed those points. I used to run 3 miles, 4-5 days a week from December-May (I think, can't remember the cut off month). I ran in the freezing cold, light rain (if it was heavy rain we would just run inside), terrible heat..etc. I didn't run just to run though. I liked competition and it was a good outlet for anger I had built up from my family life. Which is probably why I quit that for soccer. I had to run about the same amount but I got to slide tackle those stupid, annoying girls I disliked so much! Swimming is my preferred exercise method overall tho and I would do that for fun all day long.

The only food I ate before I ran was an apple or a granola bar since they were easy on the stomach. I didn't drink an hour before or during running and instead would run my 3 miles then walk a lap or two and THEN get a drink (of water or gatorade). Music would have been nice but I wasn't allowed to bring stuff like that to school.

[Americano]

When I was a much younger man I found that I could exercise well in the morning. Now I find that my best workouts are later in the day. I have wondered if that is something under my control?

I'm a much younger man and I hate working out in the morning. Whenever I wake myself up and try I feel drained with no energy.

[vad1981]

I run too anywhere from 2-5 times a week now between 7-13 miles each time (proly about 30 miles a week)

Used to run 45+ miles a week - have gained about 30 pounds since then :-)

[errrzarrr]

I do! I am on a exercise dairy routine to loose weight. I do not know the distance, but I run from 30 minutes to 40m to 1hr sometimes. thats 6 days a week, from 1 to 2hrs of a variety of exercises.

I also do abbs, exercises for legs, and all kind of weighlifting, a lil bit of everything. I am seeing the results already ;)

[Solaris]

Hello fellow runners! Today I felt lazy all day, until this evening. Then I went for a leisurely 3ish mile run (I say leisurely because I took 32 minutes to do it). Then, about two hours later, I went for about a 6.7 mile run that took about 1:05:30. I felt awesome on the second run, that happens a lot to me if I workout twice in one day.

I did some other things today as well: forms for my martial art (it's essentially a choreographed dance), a series of pull ups, some light abs stuff

[errrzarrr]

Hello fellow runners! Today I felt lazy all day, until this evening. Then I went for a leisurely 3ish mile run (I say leisurely because I took 32 minutes to do it). Then, about two hours later, I went for about a 6.7 mile run that took about 1:05:30. I felt awesome on the second run, that happens a lot to me if I workout twice in one day.

I did some other things today as well: forms for my martial art (it's essentially a choreographed dance), a series of pull ups, some light abs stuff

I ran 14 kilometers in 30 minutes today.

[Solaris]

I ran 14 kilometers in 30 minutes today.

Ok, my math at this time of night could be way off, but wouldn't that mean you were running approximately 3 minute miles? You might want to adjust either the distance or the time...or else contact your local Olympic committee. Kudos on going for a run though!

[Tfreezin]

I hate running with a passion. But i need to start running more to add a stronger cardio aspect to my workouts. It seems like when i lift weights, the fatigue i get from that is pleasurable, whereas from running it feels like shit. Almost like you want to go to sleep and you can't think clearly.

[theunstrungharp]

Hello fellow runners! Today I felt lazy all day, until this evening. Then I went for a leisurely 3ish mile run (I say leisurely because I took 32 minutes to do it). Then, about two hours later, I went for about a 6.7 mile run that took about 1:05:30. I felt awesome on the second run, that happens a lot to me if I workout twice in one day.

I did some other things today as well: forms for my martial art (it's essentially a choreographed dance), a series of pull ups, some light abs stuff

Interesting Sol. I am slower than you but not by terribly horribly much. Now I have an eerie/vague hopefulness that maybe I won't suck forever. Heck, maybe I SHOULD pick out a HM...

...maybe if I can do 10k by a goal time, my reward will be a HM this fall. We'll see. It's highly doubtful but maybe with sufficient flogging. *Hands Sol the whip*

[Solaris]

Interesting Sol. I am slower than you but not by terribly horribly much. Now I have an eerie/vague hopefulness that maybe I won't suck forever. Heck, maybe I SHOULD pick out a HM...

...maybe if I can do 10k by a goal time, my reward will be a HM this fall. We'll see. It's highly doubtful but maybe with sufficient flogging. *Hands Sol the whip*

*CRACK!*

Running is completely an intrinsic thing for me. If it is for you as well, then you'll probably get better at it. If you're forcing yourself to run, well, then you'll probably stay about the same.

Do a 10K, see how it feels. A half-marathon was really not that bad. I think miles 4-7 were the worst mentally. By mile 9, you realize you're almost there (in comparison) and there's no way you're going to quit. Plus, the endorphins have kicked in by then, and you're golden.

[Edeag]

I enjoy running- I've run three half marathons. My times were all around two and a half hours. I don't put in enough serious training to get much faster. My second half marathon was the Disneyland Half-Marathon- it was a blast.

[Double Victory]

I just started exercising a little over a month ago as a requirement for ROTC. I can't say that I enjoy running at all, but I love being unbelievably happy for several hours afterwards. I just get bored when I run. I'm not allowed to bring music, and I can't think about things since I always have to focus when I exercise, so it just gets really repetitive. And I get discouraged fairly quickly since I run out of breath almost immediately; I'm assuming that goes away eventually? Even though I find it boring, I am happy to be active. Maybe once it gets a little bit easier for me I'll find it more enjoyable.

[Solaris]

I just started exercising a little over a month ago as a requirement for ROTC. I can't say that I enjoy running at all, but I love being unbelievably happy for several hours afterwards. I just get bored when I run. I'm not allowed to bring music, and I can't think about things since I always have to focus when I exercise, so it just gets really repetitive. And I get discouraged fairly quickly since I run out of breath almost immediately; I'm assuming that goes away eventually? Even though I find it boring, I am happy to be active. Maybe once it gets a little bit easier for me I'll find it more enjoyable.

It does. You just have to build up the lung capacity first.

[Motor Jax]

i like running, but not to be able to run long-distance

i usually jog anyways, keeps the heart healthy

anyways, just got some Nike's all terrain shoes... very rugged

can't wait to break them in

[Jenny Penny]

So who else runs? How far do you run? What hydration methods do you like? Do you take food with you, what kind? Run with music, without? Gear preferences? Injury prevention ideas, cross-training tips?

I have been running (jogging, actually) since I was 11 years old. I hated it at first. My sister and dad left me in the dust. I'm 27 now, and can manage a 9-minute mile in competitive situations, like 5Ks. I'm doing a 5K in a couple days. It's at 7am, which is very hard for me (I prefer exercising in the evening). I always have to eat something nutritious and well rounded a couple hours to an hour before. I also like to have an energy drink like Monster or Redline. Seems to help me run faster. As for music, can take it or leave it, but certain high-energy tunes really help the motivation.

I strained my right ankle and left knee a few years back running a 10K. Tried to run too fast at the final stretch. It acts up when I'm on about the third mile. Ugh.

I love running. It gives me such a feeling of accomplishment and fights the doldrums. There is nothing better. I figure to be a competitive runner, though, I will have to lose ten more pounds so I will not have an ounce of fat on my body. Most of the runners you see doing 6-minute miles or faster are bean poles. I'm definitely not fat (BMI about 21) but any amount of fat slows a runner down and depletes energy.

Good luck in your running!

[Solaris]

I would like to take this moment and note that I have conquered my running nemesis -- a 6ish mile trail in a local park full of hills, tree roots, and rocks (lots and lots of rocks). While running a half-marathon was not really difficult at all, I have been previously been unable to run this 6 mile trail in its entirety. Today, I have finally completed this run. It took me 1:08:31 (hrs:min:sec). While this is no outstanding pace, keep in mind that it's trail running with a lot of quartz rocks and tree roots, and the hills are steep and nearly constant. Now, my goal will be to run it in under an hour. Incidentally, running with Propel and Gummi Bears seems to work for me.

[Beery Swine]

I don't run unless I'm chasing or being chased by something. I hope neither event ever happens.

[Solaris]

I don't run unless I'm chasing or being chased by something. I hope neither event ever happens.

Brilliant. You'll excuse me if I ask you not to clutter up my thread for those who *do* run then, won't you? For, I shall be the one chasing you if you just extol the glory of the couch potato lifestyle.

Anyways...

I bought a new pair of running shoes today. The 500 miles was up on the last pair, and a string of calf muscle strains ticked me off enough to pony up for a new pair. I went to a different local running shoe store, and had a much better experience. I had a knowledgeable sales guy, and ended up with a good shoe. It was a very touch choice between two pairs in particular.

Runners out there...any brand preferences? I seem to like New Balance and Brooks the best on my feet. I'll admit the pair I just bought is a bit weird looking, but they feel good on my feet, and give my toes enough room to move freely and breathe. I found Saucony extremely comfortable, but feared the softness was indicative of a short lifespan.

[Motor Jax]

yeah, the new pairs of treds that i recently got were New Balance All Terrain, and very ruggedized

i'll be trying them out soon enough though

[Marcus]

I run regularly for about one hour per session. I don't get bored because I run uphill/downhill (I get bored by flat terrain) and because the scenery is nice. I don't listen to music but contemplate while running.

I do it mainly because it has lasting positive effect on my mood.

[anul]

I've just started running, more like jogging. In the past few weeks. I would like to eventually run in a marathon. Right now I'm just focusing on getting back into shape. I have a pair of Nike that I run in. They're not exactly the most comfortable, but they were on sale, so they'll do for now. I generally jog for 30 minutes to an hour, depending on my mood. I try to add several minutes each consecutive day I jog. I just exercise in the gym for now.

[Solaris]

I've just started running, more like jogging. In the past few weeks. I would like to eventually run in a marathon. Right now I'm just focusing on getting back into shape. I have a pair of Nike that I run in. They're not exactly the most comfortable, but they were on sale, so they'll do for now. I generally jog for 30 minutes to an hour, depending on my mood. I try to add several minutes each consecutive day I jog. I just exercise in the gym for now.

In case you are not aware, you should limit the use of those shoes to running only. Wearing them for other purposes has an adverse affect. Also, you can always try going to a place that will fit you for a good shoe, and check online where you can buy them cheaply. Purchasing the last rendition (not the latest) can save you a ton on shoes. Plus, the older versions have more reviews available, so you can get a good idea of what people experienced. But do go and try a pair on before you buy online, make sure nothing weird is jabbing into you anywhere.

[replicant]

I can't run. My knees are the suck. lol I can walk briskly. I like that pace. I want time to see things.

[anul]

In case you are not aware, you should limit the use of those shoes to running only. Wearing them for other purposes has an adverse affect.

I try to only wear running shoes when working out. I do this because I think casually wearing runnings shoes looks foolish. I'm overall happy with my choice of running shoes, except last week a strange bump developed on my foot, in the arch. If the problem continues I'm going to have to dig out an old pair of Saucony's. But the bump hasn't bothered me since it developed.

[Mercury]

I run! I got into running last year and really really into it this year. I love running!!

[dissident]

I run.. I usually run 4ish miles in 30-35 minutes.. I haven't bothered to go longer then that much though.. I suppose I could but the maximum aerobic benefit is achieved in the first 30 minutes anyways. I'd go insane if I couldn't run. Usually I won't run in the winter but I get back to par fairly quickly come spring... sprinting while running is a good endurance builder.

My preferred running temperature is between 55-75 degrees. It's much easier for me to run without getting too sweaty... in the spring and fall I'll run during the day, in the summer at night or in the morning. Running at 85 degrees would be an interesting experience to say the least...

might try to lengthen my runs but already working full time, it limits the number of days a week I want to get out there.. of course those are just excuses.. if I put my mind to it, and I might just do that this soon....

My only advice if you're younger, say 18-22 and running, is to stretch those calves and stretch your heel by flexing your foot at a 90 degree angle and pulling on your big toe... you don't want to get plantar fasciitis like I did last fall.. it's 100% better thanks to stretching, night splints, and winter, (though there is still a non-painful heel spur there that aches from time to time) but it's still a pain in the butt best avoided. Once gotten, most people don't do what is necessary to treat it properly and it can become chronic if this is the case.. simply injecting it with cortisone and ignoring it is not the answer here.

[Solaris]

*high fives to the other who claim death/insanity would be near without running*

Second run in the new shoes today. I love them. They certainly weren't built for trails (not even a little), but they still performed well there. I really love that I don't have to think about my stride/foot position with these.

Thumbs up on the Brooks Trance 6 -- even if they are weird looking.

[thegnat]

I run sometimes...more like jog, especially when i don't have quick access to a gym. If I go to a gym, I can pace myself better. I'm horrendous with pace. I like running outside, but again, I'm bad with pace and I can get distracted with scenery, etc. I don't love long distance but ideally it helps keep me in shape and I've improved dramatically over the past few years.
I just got new running shoes. I hope to break them in :)

[Mercury]

I run sometimes...more like jog, especially when i don't have quick access to a gym. If I go to a gym, I can pace myself better. I'm horrendous with pace. I like running outside, but again, I'm bad with pace and I can get distracted with scenery, etc. I don't love long distance but ideally it helps keep me in shape and I've improved dramatically over the past few years.
I just got new running shoes. I hope to break them in :)

see I'm the opposite, I can't stand running in the gym. either on the treadmill or on the court. I have to be outside. I use music to pace myself :)

[Solaris]

see I'm the opposite, I can't stand running in the gym. either on the treadmill or on the court. I have to be outside. I use music to pace myself :)

I used to be horrible with pace. First, I *had* to use music to pace myself. Then, I got good enough where I preferred not to have music, because I was able to naturally find my pace. Now, I run a combination of the two. Sometimes I run with music to tune out my thoughts, knowing my feet will take care of themselves; and, sometimes I run with music to push myself and increase my pace.

Currently, I have an hour long trance mix I found that I run very well with, and I like the music.

Like Mercury, I am totally unable to run in a gym anymore. I think I'd fall off the treadmill because it's so unnatural to me now.

[Elfrun]

I used to enjoy running, sadly my shins don't, I do different excessises at my gym to compensate but it's just not the same as running along a park. I kinda miss that *sigh*

[Zadoc]

I'd like to start running. Last year I was doing pretty good, but I kept hurting my shins.

What are some good tips for me to get started the right way?

[Mercury]

I'd like to start running. Last year I was doing pretty good, but I kept hurting my shins.

What are some good tips for me to get started the right way?

-get good running shoes. They don't have to be expensive.
-eat a light meal 20-30 minutes before running
-drink lots of water even on non-running days. stay hydrated
-stretch before running
-set a small goal, like maybe running just a half mile for a few weeks. Then increase your distance
-hurting shins, you may have been putting too much pressure. Run light, like jogging almost

[thegnat]

see I'm the opposite, I can't stand running in the gym. either on the treadmill or on the court. I have to be outside. I use music to pace myself :)

I listen to music when I run; however, it's still difficult to pace myself with it and I think I need a better "running music" playlist. I don't know my distance half the time outside, either. I need an odometer or something. My running style probably isn't text-book either. I'm used to sprinting more because I do that so much more for tennis than long-distance. I think it's just a repetition thing for me.

[Solaris]

I listen to music when I run; however, it's still difficult to pace myself with it and I think I need a better "running music" playlist. I don't know my distance half the time outside, either. I need an odometer or something. My running style probably isn't text-book either. I'm used to sprinting more because I do that so much more for tennis than long-distance. I think it's just a repetition thing for me.

Hop in the car and drive out a route to run. Also, you can check out mapmyrun.com and create a route for yourself. For you, in particular, find something long and with a constant beat to keep your pace down. It sounds like you have trouble not going too fast, not fast enough. There's all kinds of electronic/techno music out there, check some out on youtube or something. The pieces are usually long, and have a consistent beat throughout at times.

[theunstrungharp]

Shin splints. Blah. Two things you can do to minimize:

1. Ridiculously long taper: Take weeks to work up to a solid period of running. Take a month. Walk tons but only run a little at a time. Less than you think is doing any good. Walking feels like slacking but functions like cross training. Don't fear teh walk.

2. Don't run on roads. Next to shin splints, beginning runners often get PF, and trail running will help minimize both of these.

[Double Victory]

I posted back here about a month ago after just having started to run.... and I'm glad to say that I've improved quite a bit since then! I've been able to run several warrior runs, which usually last about 30 minutes and go for a little over three miles. We had our big physical fitness test the other week, and I made our 1.5 mile run in 12:47. I know that's not very impressive for you long time runners, but that's more than I ever thought I would be able to do.

This summer I've set up a plan to run every morning on the weekdays, so hopefully next year I'll be able to get full points on the run.

I'm still struggling with the breathing, though. My lungs hurt like crap after that PFT run, and I was coughing the rest of the day. Hopefully this summer my allergies won't be as bad, and I'll be able to breathe through my nose.

[Solaris]

I posted back here about a month ago after just having started to run.... and I'm glad to say that I've improved quite a bit since then! I've been able to run several warrior runs, which usually last about 30 minutes and go for a little over three miles. We had our big physical fitness test the other week, and I made our 1.5 mile run in 12:47. I know that's not very impressive for you long time runners, but that's more than I ever thought I would be able to do.

This summer I've set up a plan to run every morning on the weekdays, so hopefully next year I'll be able to get full points on the run.

I'm still struggling with the breathing, though. My lungs hurt like crap after that PFT run, and I was coughing the rest of the day. Hopefully this summer my allergies won't be as bad, and I'll be able to breathe through my nose.

First, congrats! I remember being where you are a couple of years ago.

Second, it's kinda sketchy to run every day. You do need rest days, or you will just hinder your progress. Run every other day or MWF only, something like that. You'll recover better, and progress faster if you give your body time to recoup.

The breathing takes time, but will come naturally as you run more and find your natural pace. The hacking up a lung thing will go away eventually, unless you have other issues causing it.

@Unstrung: I've read that trail running is actually worse for PF. Cite your sources? I'll try to look mine up again too.

[Double Victory]

First, congrats! I remember being where you are a couple of years ago.

Second, it's kinda sketchy to run every day. You do need rest days, or you will just hinder your progress. Run every other day or MWF only, something like that. You'll recover better, and progress faster if you give your body time to recoup.

The breathing takes time, but will come naturally as you run more and find your natural pace. The hacking up a lung thing will go away eventually, unless you have other issues causing it.

@Unstrung: I've read that trail running is actually worse for PF. Cite your sources? I'll try to look mine up again too.

Oh, well that's even better--I don't think I would like running every day. I can switch it up and do my crunches and push-ups Tuesdays and Thursdays, then. Thanks for the advice. :D

[Solaris]

I ran 10.4 miles last night in my new shoes. I adore them. No calf pain like I'd been getting on long runs at all. Plus, I think that it was a PR for the route I ran. I'm going to go to the Huggles thread where I can hug my shoes and some people and not be such a freak for doing it! ;)

[augustus]

So many runners here. That's interesting.

I have been running over a dozen years and yet I have never run a marathon.

I alternate running with my weight training program so I avoid doing too much so I don't lose muscle mass.

I like to average around 8 miles a week. Not much by some of your standards, I suppose.

[theunstrungharp]

Sources for Sol: Personal experience, based on what my expert-runner friend told me. She also coaches some local running groups and wins all over the place, so when she recommends something, I tend to listen. She is ENTJ too.

I'll have to look around and see if I can find some more concrete sources.

[Solaris]

Sources for Sol: Personal experience, based on what my expert-runner friend told me. She also coaches some local running groups and wins all over the place, so when she recommends something, I tend to listen. She is ENTJ too.

I'll have to look around and see if I can find some more concrete sources.

I've read contradicting things, and since my oft running partner has this issue, I have interest in it.

I am so glad that my hip flexor issues have abated. That took some time. They still ache sometimes, but not the intense pain I used to get in distance runs.

[AutisticCuckoo]

I took up running again 11 months ago. I do 30-40 minutes (3-4.5 miles) on the treadmill twice a week on my lunch break. During summer I have a 5-mile round (lots of hills, no flat ground) that takes me 50-55 minutes, so it's really more like jogging than running.

[Solaris]

Running update:

Today, I exceeded my "Most Miles in a Day" record. I went for a light, easy run this afternoon for 3 miles. Then I went for a long 12 mile run this evening. I felt good during both, and am happy to have put 15 miles into one day. I remember when that was about the most I could do in a week.

[Mjannie]

I run a lot during the week and weekend, however, I'm slow runner. I run about 7 miles a day...

[Solaris]

Earlier this week, I did 14.75 miles in one run. I felt pretty great considering. I'm hoping to surpass my most miles in a week this week also.

[Seppuku Savant]

I use to run as my main source of exercise as a teenager. I was in cross country and track. I was even the first girl to join an all guys running club. I was able to bring in two other girls after a year. I liked to run 15k mostly, as we only ran road races in the club.

[EtaProduct]

I've been a long-distance runner since elementary school. I run cross-country competitively in college, and I love the challenge and excitement of competition, but that's not really why I run. Running is a way for me to clear my head, explore my surroundings, and focus on improvement.

For me, the longer the distance a run is, the more I like it. I'm looking forward to running marathons and ultramarathons a few years down the road.

Solaris, congrats on the recent distance PR's!

[burazekun]

I was a runner when I was a kid, I was pretty fast in my school. Though there was two people who where faster, but also allot taller.

I had no endurance for long runs, but I could run the mile when I was in 6th grade at 6m24s.

By 7th grade they didn't want me to run in school anymore. I was kicked off the running team. But it was after a series of other things, I got kicked off the Soccer team and the foot ball team, and then Matt ball games. I was to rough and didn't know my limits or even more so, the limits of my play mates. So I was constantly injuring them, and playing on injuries that should have taken weeks to heal, I scarred up my knees and have several scars on my legs. My left knee had some problems too, I experience pain in it every day of my life now, but I have to say. As long as it doesn't get hot and humid the pain is little.

So I want to run again, however I am trying biking first. I am hoping that I dont add any additional strain on the MCL and ACL ligaments to damage them again. (I ripped the MCL while kneeling and my physical therapist found out that I damaged my ACL sometime before or during the healing process.)

Running wasn't in my family. Mechanics, and Physics are things that run in my family. But I did run well.

[MadmanMSU]

I have a couple questions.

First, though, I love running. I used to be massively obese, and I worked my way into exercise through sheer determination and willpower. I run about 20 miles a week now after losing the weight.

One: you think that your body can produce changes in your tastes based on what it needs? For example, earlier you were talking about the cravings for red meat because you thought you needed more iron? I've experienced some of this myself, and while it sounds right to me, intuitively, I always kind of thought I was slightly crazy for thinking it.

Two: More than likely, everyone's physiology is different. I know I am not a distance runner, nor will I ever be. I am far better at weight lifting than I am at running. If I skip a week of running, I notice massive losses in my endurance capabilities, whereas if I stop lifting for 3 months, I'm still basically at the same spot I was previously.

Knowing this, anyone have any tips to help me increase my endurance? Right now I run 5 days a week, 2 days are Interval training, 1 day is distance. I vary my running between trails and city streets, depending on my mood. Right now my "distance" run is 4 miles, normal runs are about 2 or 2.5ish. I used to be around 6 a day, with a long of 8, when I was training to run a half-marathon, but I burned out on running from all the training and quit for 2 months. Now I'm trying to start back up again.

[Shakyamuni]

Gods. I hate running with a vengeance. I used to run in junior and senior high school. I used to be really good when I was young (12-14ish) nearly winning a few long distance races in my division.

However, it always felt like a chore and so I came to hate it. I don't run anymore. In fact, I dislike most forms of physical fitness. As a result, I have to force myself to keep active, so I bike to work in the summer, and during the school term I have a physical part time job in a plant nursery.

But.. getting back to the topic, I suppose I could get back into it if I had someone to run with.

[Reon]

I run from time to time but I enjoy cycling and Tennis more. I live in arkansas so running really isn't safe if you don't have the right protection and sometimes that can unmotivate you enough to just stay home (from chiggers and ticks etc.)

[searcher]

I run a fair bit (about five km at a time) but I'm better at sprints because my heart goes WAY up to about three hundred with any sort of acceleration. Swimming doesn't do it so much for some reason, so I can swim a couple of kilometres easily.
It's sort of like shutting down for a while. I don't think at all, just move.

[JonD]

I run 4 miles every other day. I was training for a marathon last year, but my training partner developed anemia. I was up to 14 miles in my long runs. I'm not all that fast, but running regularly really helps me feel healthy, and helps me think.

[Nyuszi]

Oh good, many people to run as well! It seems no one likes to run anymore, which is sad because they don't know what they're missing (unless you have some sickness thing that makes it so you can't run).

But anyway, I've been running ever since I could, especially in 7th grade when track became available. I ran short sprints, like the 100, because I was good with giving out bursts of energy. But then I joined the cross country team and did longer miles, up to 3 miles (seemed so long back then). I realized my body adjusted to this type of running too, and I did almost just as great as sprinting. Running was tied with math as my best talent, and I was so happy that I could accomplish my time-goals.

Overtime I realized that stretching, even if you think your legs are fine, is the best thing to prevent injury and keep your muscles in good shape (but sometimes I don't stretch, and I suppose the consequence now is knee strain). For me I can't eat before I run unless it's 2-3 hours before running. It just irks my stomach and I can't handle food (especially candy and cheese) well when I run.

So I continue to run and now I can go probably up to 10 miles with training, of course, and I can run 100m, 200m, and 400m as well. I love both types of running, it's so glorifying, and I think either type of running can get unnecessary stress and restlessness out of your system. However, long distances can make you feel like you accomplished way more because you ran more millage than short distance as well as more mental/physical relief. But short distances can be amazing for it adds up competition (especially in track) and even if you beat your time by .5 seconds you can PR immediately.

But lately it feels like my ribs are closing down on my lungs, and because of my weird allergy, my nose is a little clogged up. And from not stretching my knees and legs are a little banged up. I know that this isn't very serious, but it puts an impact on how fast and how far I go.

Thumbs up on the Brooks Trance 6 -- even if they are weird looking.

Haha, yes, Brooks shoes are not the best looking, but they beat other shoes that were too tight and give you more comfort.

[lambpox]

I run a lot, because my sister is on the track team. I run with her when she's practicing. I really enjoy it, it's more a test on your mind than anything. For me, I need to push myself, and not my body. It's very relaxing!

I like tennis a little better though. :)

[Solaris]

I have a couple questions.

First, though, I love running. I used to be massively obese, and I worked my way into exercise through sheer determination and willpower. I run about 20 miles a week now after losing the weight.

I've lost a good bit from running also. More than that, I changed my body shaped and composition. I might have been a natural runner as a child, but lost it. I'm finding it again now.


One: you think that your body can produce changes in your tastes based on what it needs? For example, earlier you were talking about the cravings for red meat because you thought you needed more iron? I've experienced some of this myself, and while it sounds right to me, intuitively, I always kind of thought I was slightly crazy for thinking it.

Yes. It happens to people all the time. The human body is pretty amazing that way -- it knows what it needs. The science-loving part of my brain wonders if it originates in the same place as general hunger and thirst.


Two: More than likely, everyone's physiology is different. I know I am not a distance runner, nor will I ever be. I am far better at weight lifting than I am at running. If I skip a week of running, I notice massive losses in my endurance capabilities, whereas if I stop lifting for 3 months, I'm still basically at the same spot I was previously.

I think that's consistent with runners. It requires something different from your body than lifting, so it makes sense that you'd notice the results of your break more.

Knowing this, anyone have any tips to help me increase my endurance? Right now I run 5 days a week, 2 days are Interval training, 1 day is distance. I vary my running between trails and city streets, depending on my mood. Right now my "distance" run is 4 miles, normal runs are about 2 or 2.5ish. I used to be around 6 a day, with a long of 8, when I was training to run a half-marathon, but I burned out on running from all the training and quit for 2 months. Now I'm trying to start back up again.

You might actually be running too much. You do need to give yourself rest time. I am prone to mild levels of anemia, so I know I can't run daily and expect to do any long (10+ miles) runs. Since you lift also, maybe you are just demanding too much from your muscles. I'm no running coach, but maybe try cutting back to 2 easier, short runs. 1 interval day; and one distance day.

Do you weight lift for bulk, or just general fitness? Kudos on making the choice to get healthy!

[jereni]

Hi, I'm new to running - just started running last month! I've been overweight for years but I've recently lost the weight and I've started running to help me keep the weight off.

I live in a rural village and my beginners circuit takes me round the village. I'm doing 1 minute running then 1 minute walking for 20 mins, I'm doing this about 4-5 times a week.

I'd appreciate some advice from any experienced runner - what should my next step be?

[Solaris]

Hi, I'm new to running - just started running last month! I've been overweight for years but I've recently lost the weight and I've started running to help me keep the weight off.

I live in a rural village and my beginners circuit takes me round the village. I'm doing 1 minute running then 1 minute walking for 20 mins, I'm doing this about 4-5 times a week.

I'd appreciate some advice from any experienced runner - what should my next step be?

My best advice would be to listen to your body. It will tell you when it's ready for more. Also kudos on the lifestyle change.

Form and comfort with running will come with time.

[Caucus]

I'm just getting back into running again. In high school I ran 800m,1500m, 5km and 10km races.
I love it how running allows you to test yourself. Your biggest competitor is yourself. You can always get better. It's like life - the more effort you put into training, the better your results.
It's also the perfect time to think.

[current]

Yes, I do run. Not as much as I would like to do, but at least as much as I can. Lack of time. I don't need to lose weight (please no! I would probably rise up in the air, very unpractical for running), but just because it's so much fun.
I did a few marathons already, now I'm looking for a new challenge. Probably some stuff in the mountains.
But most of all it's the best way to recover from a day working. Don't think. No training-schedules, no intermediate times, no music. Just run. It's so ... relaxing.

[greenblob]

I started running just last month. I run around 2.5 miles/day (4 km/day). It seems like the most I can do at once is ~3 mi though. I'm currently trying to double the amount that I run each day. Any tips?

[Gwargh]

I'm taking a summer break from running.I figure I'm more active in the sumer anywyas, though I'll get back to running again in the fall. I usually run cross country, since there's not very many places one can run in Tbilisi, so I run on the outskirts, through the silly excuses for forests they have.

I run in events, but those really kill me. I mean,I do well in them, but afterwards I get into a self judging mood and blame myself for not running that one second faster and such. Though my best running times are, of course, during the events, so it's a two sided coin.


greenblob: The only real way to improve yourself is to push yourself. I find that really hard to do if I'm running alone, so try to find someone to run with you. As long as they can run the same distance as you, you'll both probably end up running more, jsut for the sake of some slight competition. Either that, or time your three miles and constantyl try to improve that time. Once it's down by half a minute or so, try running further.

[current]

I started running just last month. I run around 2.5 miles/day (4 km/day). It seems like the most I can do at once is ~3 mi though. I'm currently trying to double the amount that I run each day. Any tips?

I would say, give it a bit of time. Don't set your expectations too high. Keep on running the way you do now. Enjoy it. If it motivates you, find a running mate or join a group, but don't be dependent on them (also run if they don't, simply because you feel like it). After a while you will feel that you can do more than your 3 miles. Don't push it too much, the worst thing you can have is an injury.

And for me the following things always work:

Find a running event (3 miles or 5k or so) and participate, your time doesn't matter, running in such a crowd you does!

Make some variation in your training, use different tracks. Or simply run the same track the other way round. If you need to be for whatever reason in another region/city, see if you can fit your training in your schedule and run over there etc.

Good luck! And let us know how you are proceeding :thumbsup:

[ThaiGreenTea]

I just ran a 10km today! My second time ever running this long, was sooo much easier than running my first 10km (which I did last Tuesday.)

It was raining on and off... felt so good. =)

[Solaris]

I just ran a 10km today! My second time ever running this long, was sooo much easier than running my first 10km (which I did last Tuesday.)

It was raining on and off... felt so good. =)

Congrats! Ok, so now a sensible warning, don't overtrain and injure yourself. The second time you run a long-distance is usually easier, because you know mentally what to expect. It's a great feeling.

[ThaiGreenTea]

Congrats! Ok, so now a sensible warning, don't overtrain and injure yourself. The second time you run a long-distance is usually easier, because you know mentally what to expect. It's a great feeling.

Haha, yeah no kidding. Running is great but if your body tells you something is wrong you HAVE to stop. Otherwise you're willingly crippling yourself, and who wants to do that?!

[Solaris]

Haha, yeah no kidding. Running is great but if your body tells you something is wrong you HAVE to stop. Otherwise you're willingly crippling yourself, and who wants to do that?!

People addicted to running... :(

I just completed a 10.8 mile run. It was my first run of real distance in about a month and a half. That last one seemed to wipe me out a bit, so I'm wondering why that happens. Does anyone else find themselves extremely wiped out for a few weeks after runs over 13 miles? (serious comments only please, I'd really like some insight on this because it's keeping me from progressing)

[Wufnu]

I used to run a little bit. It was hard to start, for me, since I'm overweight. It didn't hurt my joints or anything, it hurt my shoulders. All that flab bounces up and down, hurts the skin on my shoulders. That eventually went away, though. My biggest problem with running is getting the motivation to go outside and do it. My course was pretty much my driveway which was about a 500ft drop over around 1000ft of road. Pretty steep stuff. Whenever I would say "I should go run today" all I can do is thing about the hill of death which, over a 2 mile jog, I have to go down and up four times. Khhaaaaaaaannnnn

The only moment I really enjoyed it was when I would be halfway through and my body just wanted to quit. I would keep going, looking at my feet and saying "left foot... right foot.... left foot... right foot" and then it would feel as if all the pain and tiredness was gone and it felt as if I could run forever. I hear that's called a second wind. Whatever it was, it was nice.

I usually would just get on the elliptical for a couple hours while watching tv. Burn 2k calories at a go and get off hungry enough to eat an entire horse. It didn't work out.

[vad1981]

regarding 10-13 mile (or any long runs), you have to give yourself time to recuperate after them unless you are used to running them every day. You might even have to take a day of comlpetely.

The trick is not to advance too fast - like going from doing 4 mile runs 3 times a week to trying to do 13 mile runs every day for a week - you'll wipe yourself out and probably hurt yourself too.

[Solaris]

regarding 10-13 mile (or any long runs), you have to give yourself time to recuperate after them unless you are used to running them every day. You might even have to take a day of comlpetely.

The trick is not to advance too fast - like going from doing 4 mile runs 3 times a week to trying to do 13 mile runs every day for a week - you'll wipe yourself out and probably hurt yourself too.


I always take at least a day, and usually two, after long runs. I am usually able to do one per week, until lately. I've had some brushes with anemia in the past, but this seems different. Baffling.

[Autoptic]

I do Tabata interval sprints, or I use to. I've started back, can't do as well, but didn't almost puke this time. I've done at most 2 miles straight and find it horribly boring. At best I trance out doing long slow stuff but have run into stuff that way.

[Sliderule]

Why would you run unless it's to either chase down prey or to keep yourself from becoming prey? Granted it's through our ability to run for long durations and distances that helped us climb up to the top of the food chain, but now I don't really see it as so necessary. So if you want to run than go do it, personally I'll walk.

[dragonsscout]

Why would you run unless it's to either chase down prey or to keep yourself from becoming prey? Granted it's through our ability to run for long durations and distances that helped us climb up to the top of the food chain, but now I don't really see it as so necessary. So if you want to run than go do it, personally I'll walk.

Running is good for your cardiovascular health and builds endurance. It also helps cut down on weight and many people find it a good way to blow off steam or mull things over.

I used to do cross country, now I just run three miles or so every Monday and Friday, with sprint workouts on Wednesdays. I do short half-mile warm ups every weekday though, and generally run to places that are more inaccessible to bikes (my primary mode of transportation).

[Solaris]

Uh-huh. So, for those of you who pop into my thread just to tell me running sucks, or some other such negative outlook on running -- don't. Thanks. If you'd like to bash running, feel free to start a bashing running thread, I am intending for this to be a *pro running* thread. Moving along then...

Today, my new hydration belt arrived. I didn't get to test it out yet, because I had concert tickets. I purchased a Nathan brand Speed 4 model. My running partner has one, and I like it quite a bit. Fuel Belt brands seem ridiculous because of the difficulty of inserting the bottles back into the holsters. Tomorrow evening, I'll find out if my arms are bothered by this belt style I bought. Anyone else run with a hydration belt/holster of some sort?

[TigerDak]

I used to lift weights for seven years. Then I got tired of it. Took a few years off, and now I just run. I love it! I started about a year and a half ago. Now I run 4 miles, and I do that three times a week. I'll be up to 4 and 5 times a week in a few months. It helps when you invest in some nice, expensive shoes and socks.

[Solaris]

I used to lift weights for seven years. Then I got tired of it. Took a few years off, and now I just run. I love it! I started about a year and a half ago. Now I run 4 miles, and I do that three times a week. I'll be up to 4 and 5 times a week in a few months. It helps when you invest in some nice, expensive shoes and socks.

I recently purchased a hydration belt -- what a difference! I went for an 11ish mile run and drank just as much as I could, I felt pretty great.

Also, don't be misled by the pricetag on the shoes -- just get ones made for your feet, style, and body type. Yes, they will be probably $75 and up, but well worth it for any regular runner.

[Sliderule]

Uh-huh. So, for those of you who pop into my thread just to tell me running sucks, or some other such negative outlook on running -- don't. Thanks. If you'd like to bash running, feel free to start a bashing running thread, I am intending for this to be a *pro running* thread. Moving along then...

I never said that running sucks, I simply said that long distance running is no longer necessary. I wasn't aware that any viewpoint that differed significantly from your own wasn't welcome here. You asked who runs, and I answered that I walked.

Perhaps I was curious to see what motivation people had for running other than "I love it" and "It's great". Running isn't easy, if it were people would run everywhere all the time, maybe I was curious to know what made people on this forum want to run. If someone was inflamed by my post than I can assure them that that was not my intent.

Instead of telling me to get lost and get out why don't try to sell me on running? Given what you posted in reference to me you seem to have pretty strong feelings on the topic, so why don't you put them to good use instead of blowing me off.

[Solaris]

I never said that running sucks, I simply said that long distance running is no longer necessary. I wasn't aware that any viewpoint that differed significantly from your own wasn't welcome here. You asked who runs, and I answered that I walked.

Perhaps I was curious to see what motivation people had for running other than "I love it" and "It's great". Running isn't easy, if it were people would run everywhere all the time, maybe I was curious to know what made people on this forum want to run. If someone was inflamed by my post than I can assure them that that was not my intent.

Instead of telling me to get lost and get out why don't try to sell me on running? Given what you posted in reference to me you seem to have pretty strong feelings on the topic, so why don't you put them to good use instead of blowing me off.

If you were curious about those things, just saying so is a better way to get an answer from me. I don't try to sell you on running because I already worked sales and I hate it. Either you'll do it because you want to, or you won't. I do tend to draw friends into my interests, but not so much with strangers.

As a runner, I get tired of hearing the canned responses. Anyone who wants to have a genuine, open conversation with me about running is welcome to do so. This does include you.

[Solaris]

I have set the date for my first Marathon -- March 22, 2009. 20 weeks to go.

[radames]

Used to not prefer running especially when it was a conditioning method in high school football.

In February of 2007 I seriously started the running thing. I was planning on becoming a police officer and needed to get myself in shape very quickly for the athletic tests.

I jogged a mile, walked a half mile, jogged a mile, walked a half mile for the first week. Went up to two miles a day, six days for the next week. Three miles a day the following week, until about six weeks later, I was doing five miles a day, pretty slow pace though. I aced the athletic portion of the police test. I decided to keep running as I was seeing a six pack for the first time. I would run down side streets in Gilbert, AZ which were a mile long between stop lights. I ran in a square back home two times, which ended up being eight miles, yet a few times I ran three times around in addition to running the last leg twice. This made thirteen miles, a half marathon. I have done this about fifteen times so far.

A few weeks later I was doing six to eight miles, six days a week. I got all the way up to eight to ten miles per day for a couple of weeks when I decided to slow down after being turned down at the very last stage of the testing process. Up to that point I did well on each test. They gave no reason other than there were more qualified people.

I ran three to four days per week at about five to seven miles a day up to January of this year. I started to up the volume again. I was running half marathons on a weekly basis and doing fifty to sixty miles per week for a couple of months. One night everything seemed right to do my first marathon. Body was in shape, energy level fine, weather fine. I placed a couple gatorade bottles at a spot on the sidewalk with two energy bars. I decided that at ten mile intervals I would eat and drink one set of snacks. I made it through a shade under a decade.

Running long distances (over three miles) isn't the best thing to retain power in a fighter's body so I have replaced running with agility and plyometric activities. However, if I had kept running I am sure that I would have four or five marathons under my belt by now.

[Vagrant]

Not a big fan of running -- I tend to walk and run on my toes, and as such, get nasty shin splints for any distance running. However, I am a very good sprinter, and have pretty damn good balance naturally.

Not to mention that running is really damn harsh on your entire body.

I prefer to skateboard. >.>

[realgraverobber]

I run!

[Solaris]

Yay, now more details?

Update in my running: This weekend, I ran 15 miles in 2:32:49. That's my longest run ever. Then I hurt my right leg in martial arts, so now I'm out of running for a bit. Hopefully not more than a few days...

[l345l]

I find that winter is the best time of year for running. Something about that white puff of breath, something about the cold air in my lungs, something about the darkened paths that make me wish that I never had to stop.

[Solaris]

I find that winter is the best time of year for running. Something about that white puff of breath, something about the cold air in my lungs, something about the darkened paths that make me wish that I never had to stop.

I'm glad somebody enjoys that, I don't. I did enjoy snowshoe racing when I lived up North still, but that was a little different. It's like track running, just in snow with snowshoes.

I prefer Spring and Fall here in the South. Summer is interesting when you can run at night, but still a bit hot sometimes.

[dalidaisy]

I do not run, I walk. Running is just too hard on my knees. But, I can walk 5 miles in an hour, so I feel like I'm doing ok. I like to do 5 miles a day before my weight training, ab workout & swimming. I usually take weekends off, as I usually get my fair of excercise running around with my kids...

[Zzyber]

Every day (except weekends) for around 2.5 - 3 miles. I love it. I can turn my mind off and just go. Great stress reliever!

[Medicine Man]

I have run a lot of miles in my life...
I ran distance in college, my bests were 14:46 for the 5k on the track and 1:10 for the half-marathon on the roads. I remember my senior year I ran 500 miles in 1 month, with weekly totals of of around 120 MPW. I had 3% body fat and looked like a disgusting ghoul. I switched to triathlons after college and put on some aesthetically pleasing muscle. I still run a lot, but obviously mix it up with cycling and swimming. I probably should not admit this, but due to my INTJ nature, I have read more books on running/training than the average person has read books total. If anyone has questions about training or injuries (I am now a Med Student) just ask, and I bet I can help you out or least point you in the right direction.

My best tip for those starting out- lose weight by logging the miles. A mile run burns about 100 calories for a 150lb person whether you run it at 5min pace or 10min pace.
buy a HR monitor and run at 70-75% max HR, usually this number comes out to be 140-165 for 20somethings-middle aged people. This should feel good, not burning, save that feeling for when you get in better shape. Also, DON'T run on cement if you can avoid it. Grass/trails are much easier on the legs. Beware, with a INTJ personality, you can easily become addicted at the cost of friends and family. Not that you care right :)

[ArkansasFan]

I like to run, but I don't take it to any extremes. I don't think I've ever ran farther than three miles, and I don't care to go any further. I'm of the school of thought that too much running hurts the joints. I can already tell a difference in my knees after just a five or so years of consistently running.

[dandylion]

Does anyone have any recommendations for good running shoes? I currently use K-Swiss tennis shoes, but of course they're not ideal. I have no idea what happened to my old running shoes. There's no room for "breathability" in those tennis shoes and it often feels like my feet are on fire if I run too long. What do you all wear?

[Mozzes]

Does anyone have any recommendations for good running shoes? I currently use K-Swiss tennis shoes, but of course they're not ideal. I have no idea what happened to my old running shoes. There's no room for "breathability" in those tennis shoes and it often feels like my feet are on fire if I run too long. What do you all wear?

Best I can suggest is to just find some that feel comfortable when you put them on and give them a try. In my opinion try to get some that don't feel too loose (I've always found it uncomfortable and distracting when my running shoes slide around) and make sure there's enough room in the toe box otherwise you'll always be dealing with blisters.

I use Adidas microbounce though these may or may not be a good choice for you.

[Solaris]

Does anyone have any recommendations for good running shoes? I currently use K-Swiss tennis shoes, but of course they're not ideal. I have no idea what happened to my old running shoes. There's no room for "breathability" in those tennis shoes and it often feels like my feet are on fire if I run too long. What do you all wear?

Clearly a shoe with the word "tennis" in the description is wrong. The best approach is to find a good running sneaker shop near you. Quality places are usually small and will take time to learn about your foot. Failing the availability of this, go online to Runner's World's website and look at their shoe guide.

The proper shoe for you will depend on the terrain you traverse, your stride/gait (pronation, overpronation, neutral), the volume of your foot, your arch, and any other characteristics of the shape of your foot (like wide toes and a narrow heel, or a narrow overall foot).

Make sure you take the socks you would normally run in, and wait until you've moved around during the day some before you go for a fit. Run around in the shoe a bit. Ask yourself if anything is jabbing your foot or ankle oddly (close your eyes and mentally scan); are your toes comfortable; are you toes hitting the ends of the shoes; is your heel sliding; is the lacing supportive and not cutting across the top of your foot painfully? When moving, take notice of how much "give" is in the shoe. Newer runners tend to prefer a cushier shoe, for which you sacrifice some mileage. Generally, a shoe should last about 500 miles. Some brands seem to last less (Saucony for one). If you are a beginner, this matter less and you should get a shoe that feels comfortable, supportive, and cushioned, but not spongy to the point of feeling like it robs you of forward momentum.

If the shoe is great, and there's a slight issue with the laces, there are different lacing techniques you can try as well.

For a good, quality shoe with proper fit, expect to pay between $70 and $100 USD.

...I clearly know too much about shoes that I didn't realize I had stored away :P

[dragonsscout]

Does anyone have any recommendations for good running shoes? I currently use K-Swiss tennis shoes, but of course they're not ideal. I have no idea what happened to my old running shoes. There's no room for "breathability" in those tennis shoes and it often feels like my feet are on fire if I run too long. What do you all wear?

I and my friends pretty much all wear some type of Brooks shoe. Mine are Vapors, but most people (including myself) prefer Adrenalines. They lack a lot of cushion, but are responsive, light, and have a neutral platform. Really, though, it depends mostly on you. I'd go to a running shoe store for at least the first time and have them fit your shoes and look at your gait. Be sure to bring orthotics if you use them.

I found that for me, part of the problems that I originally had were because of ventilation (I have sweaty feet), which was fixed by changing socks in addition to shoes. If you want to invest the money into a couple of pairs of good running socks, I'd go with pairs that don't contain much, if any, cotton. Cotton kills.

[Solaris]

I wear the Brooks Trance. I also have sweaty feet, and those are amazing for me. Even on the heat of a southern summer, my feet don't have heat issues. I think they saved me a lot of blisters probably. My next pair will be a newer model of the Brooks Trance I think.

[drifen]

So who else runs? How far do you run? What hydration methods do you like? Do you take food with you, what kind? Run with music, without? Gear preferences? Injury prevention ideas, cross-training tips?

I run! I picked up the addiction through a high school friend who suggested that I might be good at cross country. Long distance running, especially at night and early in the morning, provides me with time to reflect and to think; it's probably the only thing that keeps me sane. Since my high school running days (I am a senior in college now), I've ran three half marathons and four full marathons and will be competing in the upcoming Boston Marathon on 4/20/2009.

I usually run alone before sunrise or after sunset on an 8 mile loop to campus, around campus, and back to my apartment five or six times a week.

As for hydration, I would suggest that you carry a water bottle with you during the day and keep sipping water until your urine runs almost clear. For training runs under 9 miles, I usually don't bother bringing water with me since it's added weight. For longer runs, I will plan my route near water fountains, or stash a 2 liter Platypus bottle in the bushes on circuit runs so that I can take a sip every time I pass the bush.

As for food, I don't find foods such as energy gels or bars to be necessary for anything under a half marathon. Really, unless you're doing longer distance training runs in preparation for a marathon or you're racing for time, some type of sports drink like Gatorade or even just plain water should keep your body in good shape. During my last three marathons, I've experimented with Powerbar Gels during the race itself. In those conditions, I'll bring five or so gels and take them down with water at water stops.

I've ran with both music and without in the past. Nowadays, I tend to run without music if I'm outside; that, and because the sweat from my palm started to corrode the screws on the back of my Sandisk Sansa e280. Running without music lets you be more in sync with your body and your surroundings, and gives you more opportunity to think as well. If I'm running on a treadmill or indoor track however, in the case of bad weather, I'll probably use music. In an effort to be more efficient, I've even tried to listen to French and German language tapes while running in the past, but I have a hell of time trying to multitask, and it makes running less enjoyable, so I've stopped.

Running is a great sport because it requires minimal gear. I wear ASICS shoes exclusively because they fit me well. My running shorts are from Target's C9 collection (no need for expensive Nike's ^^). I'll usually just wear the undershirt or t-shirt that I wore earlier in the day for running, since that eliminates the need for additional clothing to wash. A dependable sports watch with a splits feature is good to have, as well as a fuel belt to carry energy gels during races. Other than that, running gear is quite minimal...

Stretching was a big deal in high school; our coach emphasized that we stretch before, during, and after workouts. Nowadays though, I don't bother stretching except before races, and I've never experienced injury before. My physiology may be different from yours however. If you find that your shins hurt, try running on softer surfaces, such as dirt trails and the grass beside sidewalks. Swimming would probably be the best cross training activity to do if you ever needed to recover from an injury, followed by cycling, though a decent road bike will cost you quite a bit.

[Medicine Man]

I would say at the top of the running shoe list for quality/$ is Asics. At the bottom, Nike.

[dandylion]

Thanks for the input, everyone. I'll try to locate one of those running stores with specialists sometime soon.

[Solaris]

Thanks for the input, everyone. I'll try to locate one of those running stores with specialists sometime soon.

Welcome! And, because I'm a running geek, I'd really be interested in hearing about what shoes you end up with.

[thegnat]

my first group run today! I'm going to try to run 4 miles...

I thought 6.5 by the end of the semester would be realistic, but I really think if I'm already at 4, I can make that easily. So perhaps a longer goal is more realistic even without killing myself :P Once the weather gets nicer at least.

Anyway, gotta run ;P

So....said run happened...I got too nervous before hand and had to walk a couple times. Only ran about half the time intended (35 minutes is what I ran, hour was intended). But the prof was nice and hopefully next time I'll come out running better. I think if I beat my nerves I'll be fine. I just need to relax. It's a literal *fear* of mine that I'll humiliate myself in a group run XB. So I'm essentially trying to beat a fear of mine. But this week I'll run 50 minutes on the treadmill or outside. I think that'll help me.

[Nordenstorm]

In the summer and early fall I run a real (metric) mile a day.

[Medicine Man]

Humiliation is a great motivator. I have not been training hard (for me) the past few months. I got dropped a few weeks ago running with some people who I used to be much faster than. Lets just say I have been running much more lately. Use it or lose it applies to running more than just about anything I have ever done.

[dandylion]

Welcome! And, because I'm a running geek, I'd really be interested in hearing about what shoes you end up with.

Will do! I probably won't be able to get them for another week or two, though.

Humiliation is a great motivator. I have not been training hard (for me) the past few months. I got dropped a few weeks ago running with some people who I used to be much faster than. Lets just say I have been running much more lately. Use it or lose it applies to running more than just about anything I have ever done.

I agree. I haven't been keeping up with the running in the last year, and I've just decided to start up again. Gotta maintain physical excellence, right? I'm taking a running and conditioning class a couple times a week to help me along. At first I was pretty pathetic and had to start walking after jogging a lap, but a couple weeks after that I was okay with running a mile and more at a constant pace, non-stop and with energy to spare. By the end of the semester, we're supposed to be able to effortlessly run obstacle courses and 5 [consecutive?] miles off the bat. Exciting!

[Nikson]

I used to run regularly until I got iliotibial band syndrome, and since then it has been sporadic at best.

When I do go I really love it - it gives me time to mull things over - I also tend to listen to my favourite music so it gives me some great alone time to relax and enjoy myself. I feel a bit guilty going sometimes as it feels quite selfish as I like it so much. I also like doing maths problems while I run - like trying to calculate how fast you would have to run to set off a speed camera to see whether Usain Bolt would set off the camera in a 20 mph zone.

The furthest I have ever run is 6 miles, which took me 62 mins. My fastest 5k is 27:30 and my fastest mile was 7:58.

[Hasway]

I'm a crazy runner. I'm best in the state, region, and sixth in the nation for x-country running. I love it. It's much more fun than track, where you go in circles forever and ever. No, I like to think when I'm running. Some people tell me that it seems like I'm looking at the pretty flowers while I go along. Which I do, the flowers are prety :).

[JonD]

Does anyone else find themselves extremely wiped out for a few weeks after runs over 13 miles? (serious comments only please, I'd really like some insight on this because it's keeping me from progressing)

Seeing as you posted in 2007, and mentioned training for a marathon this past March, you've probably got this one figured out. But what the heck. (And say, did you end up running it? how did it go?)

The trick to eliminating that 'wiped' feeling after long distance running (~+10 miles) is recovery nutrition. Running really jacks up your metabolism, so if you eat shortly after you run(within 30 minutes), you can nourish your muscles, and eliminate soreness and fatigue. It's recommened you eat bananas and a lot of carbs. I usually have a couple bananas, bread with peanut butter, and some milk. There are a variety of recovery drinks you can buy, too, if you like that sort of thing. And of course, make sure to consume electrolytes such as gels(with water), or Gatorade WHILE you run for any running over 1 hour, or in very hot weather.

I've been running for 5 years now, and have two half marathons under my belt. I'm also training for a full marathon this summer, and my goal is sub-4 hours. I hope to one day be able to do a triathalon, or even a duathalon. I want to see how far I can push my body and mind.

You know, I love running because it's so simple in concept, except it's really so complex in practice. There's the various types of training, nutrition, running shoes, etc. And, it's a very personal sport. It doesn't matter if anyone wants to come with me, if it's 6 in the morning, or 11 at night: The roads/trails are always open, and you can go for a run anytime you want, at whatever pace, for however long or far you want to go.

[Solaris]

I injured my hip and was unable to run. I have run up to 18 miles at once with no real problem. I am currently unable to run with such intensity, but hope to get back to it next year perhaps. I am thinking I will take up swimming in the meantime.

Nutrition was never really my issue, I was always careful to eat something before, during and after. I have (by American standards) an extremely healthy diet (though I'll just say it's healthy and balanced).

Have you ever found any gels that don't taste like spooge? They were all horrible to me.

[JonD]

I injured my hip and was unable to run. I have run up to 18 miles at once with no real problem. I am currently unable to run with such intensity, but hope to get back to it next year perhaps. I am thinking I will take up swimming in the meantime.

Nutrition was never really my issue, I was always careful to eat something before, during and after. I have (by American standards) an extremely healthy diet (though I'll just say it's healthy and balanced).

Have you ever found any gels that don't taste like spooge? They were all horrible to me.

I had the same problems with gels. And frankly, gels don't seem to help me any better than plain old Gatorade, anyways.

Tough break about your hip. Hope you can get back up to speed.

[Valielen]

I started running a few months ago. I'm really bad at it because I'm a long term swimmer so my breathing is often all out of whack. I can do other types of cardio but often get out of breath running and my legs are slightly different lengths so I had a tendency to trip over myself.

I still can't do a lot, but I can now run a full 6minutes non stop and no longer trip over myself. I used to run out of breath after 15secs...
I had to run to catch the train last month and managed to run a full mile to get there on time. It's quite pathetic in comparison to others here, but I'm quite proud of my achievement so far and will keep running to increase my stamina for some much loved mountain hiking.

[Solaris]

I started out a few years ago barely able to run a mile, in fact I think I couldn't. I've successfully run a half-marathon, and run up to 18 miles at once now. You'll get there Val. The breathing thing usually takes some time to work itself out, but it does. About that time, hip flexors start hurting, but that too will pass as they strengthen.

[fatkattykat]

I started out a few years ago barely able to run a mile, in fact I think I couldn't. I've successfully run a half-marathon, and run up to 18 miles at once now. You'll get there Val. The breathing thing usually takes some time to work itself out, but it does. About that time, hip flexors start hurting, but that too will pass as they strengthen.

That is really encouraging, especially to someone who feels discouraged about running, especially long distance. I am very short so I feel like I have to work 2x as hard as a normal person to cover the same distance so my mile times are not very good. I also have very small feet and cannot find decent running shoes in a woman's 4.5 to save my life. :(:(:(

I am certainly not a runner...never been the most athletic person, but I usually run every now and then to stay in shape. I have noticed over the years my paces and endurance have improved. As a matter of fact, I did run a little on the track yesterday. I prefer the elliptical because you burn more calories and it is not as hard on your joints, especially if you put it on a high resistance. I have also been doing cardio kick-boxing for 3 years.

If I prefer to run, I like to do it outside when it is between 55 & 80 degrees. I usually run more distance if I am outside, with my I-Pod. I wish I had the time some of you guys had to be able to run 5+ miles every day...if I make it to the gym 3x a week I am doing well :p

[Shorgenfunkel]

I prefer the elliptical because you burn more calories

The ACSM has done studies that show that most commercial ellipticals viciously over-report calories burned, by around 30%. Just in case you weren't aware.

Anyway, my running consists of Tabata sprints (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). I used to use the elliptical a lot more than I do now; I usually run outside as of yet.

[Valielen]

I started out a few years ago barely able to run a mile, in fact I think I couldn't. I've successfully run a half-marathon, and run up to 18 miles at once now. You'll get there Val. The breathing thing usually takes some time to work itself out, but it does. About that time, hip flexors start hurting, but that too will pass as they strengthen.

Thanks for the encouragement. I started running last year when the director of the company explained how he started. He could bike all day but he couldn't run. He started by running 1 minute and brisk walking for 4 minutes, increasing the running whenever he could to a total of 5mins. After that he just pushed the barrier up to 10 minutes and so on.
It's the encouragement from people who can run marathons that really helps. It helps to know that they got to where they are despite having been as pathetic as I am at the moment.

[vash]

I know this wasn't directed at me but as an INTJ I wanted to answer: I love how exercise makes me feel. My body is the most important piece of machinery that I'll ever own and it's an interesting challenge to see how well I can get it to operate. The rewards are excellent; when I take good care of myself I think more clearly and generally have a better mood.
I absolutely agree with you! The human body is an adventure worth exploring time and time again. I monitor cardiovascular and musculoskeletal responses to exercise (as do many people), but I am fascinated by the other changes as well (digestive system, sleep patterns, etc.).
I enjoy "solo" sports like climbing, mountain biking, skiing and surfing. Even if you're doing them in a group the challenge is always about beating yourself.
Agreed again! :) I am not competitive with other ppl and I tend to prefer solo activities, but I will sometimes participate in activities with groups as long as it doesn't involve any sort of team.
Intense physical activity also gives me a sort of "mental quiet" where I have to focus on the task as hand rather than juggling ideas because I'm bored. As far as running goes it's really about body maintenance. Zoning out with headphones on is kind of rewarding but I'm not into it like the folks who enjoy distance running.
Fianlly, I answer the original question. ;) I run/jog 15-20 miles per week, but I run on an indoor track. That way I can totally zone out without doing any serious damage to myself. :) I exercise for health purposes and b/c I love it. It's one of the few areas of my life where I extravert (as much as is possible for me).

[Synapse]

I run about 15 miles a week, not that much. About 3 miles a day, but I hope to get better gradually, that'd be great. If I do run, I'll run with techno and ambient music (and other music like such), I'm not a fan of music with lyrics while I'm running: it's just too distracting.

[coffeeholic]

My senior year in high school i was captain of crosscountry and track.I still lovvee it! yeah for runner's high!

[PortInStorm]

Saucony here, but I only run about 20-30 min most days. I'm just starting to get hooked on the runner's high thing (which, no doubt, is not half as intense as those who run LD), not to mention the psychological lift from not sporting the winter doughnut anymore!

[rhane]

What's up runners? I'm a triathlete, and am training for a half-ironman - which would be a half marathon following a 1.5 mile swim and a 56 mile bike. Anyone else a distance runner?

[eidetic motion]

I run 3 to 5 times a week. 2 to 4 miles at a time.

[Tristan]

In anonymity, I can be an honest brute. I run when I have a girl to accompany me. I love running, but cannot dredge up the initiative for it without some extra impetus.

[JonD]

What's up runners? I'm a triathlete, and am training for a half-ironman - which would be a half marathon following a 1.5 mile swim and a 56 mile bike. Anyone else a distance runner?

I am - and am currently training for a full marathon that's happening this September.

I'm actually thinking about doing a half iron.. what's the training like?

and as a side note, look who else runs :knife:

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[Solaris]

I won't be running any distance races this year. Running and this pregnancy seem not to mix so well. However, I am thinking I will take up swimming. From there, it's only a small step to me wanting to do half-irons eventually. I still run, but in very limited distances as compared to before. I miss the outlet, but it just makes me feel sick. Maybe the next kiddo won't affect me so. Or, perhaps, it's just the hot, humid, NC weather that really kills me in combo with being pregnant.

[JonD]

I would be careful about running during pregnancy. Even becoming mildly dehydrated can cause problems with the baby! So be cautious, even when swimming.

The biggest danger of running while pregnant is slips/falls.

I saw someone posted a link to Dean Karnazes, the ultramarathoner who runs a marathon every day, and sleeps only 4 hours a night. He also windsurfs a fair bit, and does a bunch of mountain biking. One of his recent feats in running 50 marathons in 50 consecutive days in 50 different states.

But I found a guy I think is more impressive. His name's David Goggins, and he's a Navy SEAL. What makes him so impressive is that he used to be a 280 pound weightlifter, then after some of his buddies lost their lives in Afghanistan in the war, he decided to do something to raise money for the fallen soldier's children to pay for college. So he took up ultra-marathons. That he's pushed himself through so many injuries and problems is what's most impressive to me. His kidney's have nearly failed on his first ultra, and he's broken metatarsals in his feet, and even got stress fractures, and keeps running. Here's a peek at what his training is like for a typical day:

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Here's the extremely inspirational video that helped me get off my butt and overcome my injury:

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[rhane]

I am - and am currently training for a full marathon that's happening this September.

I'm actually thinking about doing a half iron.. what's the training like?

and as a side note, look who else runs :knife:

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The training is high volume and time consuming, but essentially comes down to 2 swim workouts, 2 run workouts, and 2 bike workouts a week with 1 rest day. Since I'm often pressed for time, training usually lasts an hour.

[Ray9]

but i love to run to music with a camelback on



You evolved with ears for survival. If you put something on those ears to impede your ability to sense threats to your survival then you will have staisfied one requirement for a Darwin award. You will also eventually be injured quite severely or dead long before your time. Even if you run on a treadmill you are at risk. I once saw a woman nearly decapitate herself in the gym with a wire from a walkman.

[Solaris]

I'm well acquainted with running and its problems, even while pregnant. I actually haven't been able to run more than a handful of times, it's been too hot for me. It's not really the dehydration that is the primary fear, it's overheating. As the temps are hovering between 95-100 lately, I can barely tolerate a walk outside. (really, I fully understand the phrase "bun in the oven" now -- I feel like a walking, breathing oven) When it cools down, I might try again. I discussed the matter thoroughly with my doctor, read experiences of others, and determined that as long as I was comfortable, I would run. Since I'm not, I don't. Swimming is better as the water help keeps me cool, and has other benefits for pregnant women as well.

[Farion]

I've been running since first grade (though I took a break through middle school) but now I run 1-3 miles a day on a treadmill (I took a long break and now I'm working back up), depending on how long I have and what my mood is. I think what you said about running having to be in the family for children to do it is true, I know that I probably wouldn't have even thought about running except that my dad used to be a big marathon runner (was actually fairly good too) and still runs at least 5 miles every day, I think, even though he's getting into his mid-60's (on an interesting side note, my dad also happens to be an INTJ)

Edit: Oh, I forgot to say that I always run with an iPod, and a supply of Capri-Suns :smug: (I never quite out grew them). I use my running time (and high) to let my imagination run wild.

[Solaris]

How do you run with Capri Suns and not shoot it up your nose instead? Or do you put it in something else? I can't drink very sugary things while running, I get so slimy feeling. I used to take one bottle with sugary something, and 3 with plain water -- I use a Nathan Speed 4 hydration belt when I run distance or in heat. :( I miss it right now. It's too hot to run while pregnant here right now, or I'd be out there running.

I'm curious as to anyone's experience with Gore-Tex running shoes. I have generally hot/moist feet and run in Brooks' Trance shoe. They keep me the coolest of any shoe I've tried yet. I'm familiar with Gore-Tex clothing and hiking shoes, less so when running. Anyone have Gore-Tex (or similar) running shoes?

[demvesalius]

I'm preparing for a marathon. I'm following training plans from "Daniels' RUNNING Formula" by Jack Daniels, PhD (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). However, because I've been road cycling for almost a decade, I'm cross training at Lactic Threshold and Tempo on my bike as well, to effectively transfer the cardiovascular endurance I have to running, while I do the easier phases of my training for running. Because I lost much of my running muscles over the years, I'm starting out very easy with beginner programs to avoid injury. I hope to complete a marathon in two years.

[icelandicriot]

I started running again the beginning of 2009. Since April (when I started tracking it, thank you Nike+) I've done 311 miles.

From the marathon training books i've read, if you stay well hydrated anyways you shouldn't need to bring anything with you unless you're doing more than 10 miles. For these I like Gleukos. I run with music. As far as injury prevention: listen to your body. When it hurts, stop. Stretch before, during, after. Take off days. If you're a lifestyler runner then don't eat like crap, don't drink the alcohol, don't smoke things. Everything you put into your body should be for a purpose, and the purpose is to run faster, harder, longer, and with more ease.

But I should mention i'm sort of an extremist when it comes to things....

[DewFuel]

just started running about two months ago. 4 times a week, about 3 miles a piece.

although i'll see that cut down now that Ramadan is starting. ugh.

[Solaris]

I started running again the beginning of 2009. Since April (when I started tracking it, thank you Nike+) I've done 311 miles.

From the marathon training books i've read, if you stay well hydrated anyways you shouldn't need to bring anything with you unless you're doing more than 10 miles. For these I like Gleukos. I run with music. As far as injury prevention: listen to your body. When it hurts, stop. Stretch before, during, after. Take off days. If you're a lifestyler runner then don't eat like crap, don't drink the alcohol, don't smoke things. Everything you put into your body should be for a purpose, and the purpose is to run faster, harder, longer, and with more ease.

But I should mention i'm sort of an extremist when it comes to things....

When I was racking up the miles each week (especially weekends), I operated similarly. However, I found that some sort of food with me on runs more than 6 miles worked best. Perhaps it's the heat of North Carolina, or just my own body. Granted I was also working out core stuff several times a week and doing intense martial arts 3 times a week, and still losing weight. I imagine I just couldn't take in enough at a meal, so these little snacks were important.

What's Gleukos?

just started running about two months ago. 4 times a week, about 3 miles a piece.

although i'll see that cut down now that Ramadan is starting. ugh.

Interesting point. How does one even continue strenuous exercise during Ramadan? Do you try to eat a large amount early in the morning and then run once it's settled, but before hunger sets back in? Are you allowed to drink sugary things or protein drinks at all during the day? Christians fast at times as well, though typically not as long, and I've never been able to be ok with this idea for myself. I have plenty of discipline, but couldn't see me keeping up the schedule above.

[DewFuel]

Interesting point. How does one even continue strenuous exercise during Ramadan? Do you try to eat a large amount early in the morning and then run once it's settled, but before hunger sets back in? Are you allowed to drink sugary things or protein drinks at all during the day? Christians fast at times as well, though typically not as long, and I've never been able to be ok with this idea for myself. I have plenty of discipline, but couldn't see me keeping up the schedule above.

Generally its kind of hard to exercise when the fasting days are really long, as it is this time around. Stupid Gregorian calender sets Ramadan back about 11 days a year.

So long story short, I generally will go for a run in the morning (before the sun rises), and then eat my "breakfast". All this must be done before the sun rises (right now, around 4:30am, CST). It is hard to go for a run at night because we kind of eat large meals at sundown (7:45pm), and lethargy sets in soon afterward.

No oral ingestion of food is allowed, so exercising during the day is pretty stupid, unless you wanna starve your muscles. Its really not that hard to maintain the schedule, since we've been doing it all our lives, starting in our teenage years.

[demvesalius]

FYI: There are many pro endurance athletes who will sit down and have a nice cold beer with a meal after they complete a 2500 calorie plus workout. It helps relax the body and calm down the mind. Anything over one beer will not do you any good. It also depends on how well your body can process the alcohol and chemistry of particular types of beers - find what works for you.

[Freedom Geek]

I pace quite a bit, sometimes at running speed.

[icelandicriot]

Solaris,

It could be the difference in climate as i'm in the Pacific Northwest. Gleukos is a energy gel that you drink, it goes straight to the muscles.No sucrose, no fructose, no stimulants. Here is a link for more info: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[JonD]

FYI: There are many pro endurance athletes who will sit down and have a nice cold beer with a meal after they complete a 2500 calorie plus workout. It helps relax the body and calm down the mind. Anything over one beer will not do you any good. It also depends on how well your body can process the alcohol and chemistry of particular types of beers - find what works for you.

I'm curious to see which pro endurance athletes drink beer while training for an event.

[Solaris]

Solaris,

It could be the difference in climate as i'm in the Pacific Northwest. Gleukos is a energy gel that you drink, it goes straight to the muscles.No sucrose, no fructose, no stimulants. Here is a link for more info: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

How does it taste? The other gels I've tried taste like...well...flavored spooge. I've tried to find things I can tolerate drinking while running. Generally anything sugary at all is out as it leave my mouth feeling slimy and phlegmy.

[icelandicriot]

It's pretty good actually. They have 3 flavors, I find the orange to be the best. There isn't sugar in it so it doesn't leave the weird after taste/texture. The website is pretty informative on it, even the package is eco-friendly :)

[KalaKesar]

I run about 2-3 miles every other day. I used to run a lot more when I worked in an office setting. It was a great stress manager and many times alerted me to the first hints of an illness.

My brother had a shoe salesman tell him that running shoes should be one whole size larger than casual shoes. Bro swore by this advice. I tried it and I love having the extra bit of room.

These days, my biggest problem is dogs; I have to carry pepper spray as some of those buggers just want to rip my legs off.

Living in Michigan, I have to run in the cold. Anything less than 20 degrees keeps me in the house, though. I run in small spikes much of the winter - low mileage only; they will cause hot spots on the feet. They give me traction on pure ice. They won't work if there is a dusting of snow over the glacier. Then I go do some yoga instead.

Go runners! Gotta love those endorphins!

[Bloobird]

I never run more than 800 meters in one go as I'm a 100/200 meter sprinter, I frequently do intervals which total up to 2.5 kilometers.

[Solaris]

I never run more than 800 meters in one go as I'm a 100/200 meter sprinter, I frequently do intervals which total up to 2.5 kilometers.

Only time I did that was when I did snowshoe sprints. That was interesting, because it *was* cold most of the time. So we'd run with scarves and such over our mouths to protect our lungs. Has anyone else tried this? They make special snowshoes for it even. Now, I live where there's not enough snow for that, so it's just a memory.

[JonD]

Only time I did that was when I did snowshoe sprints. That was interesting, because it *was* cold most of the time. So we'd run with scarves and such over our mouths to protect our lungs. Has anyone else tried this? They make special snowshoes for it even. Now, I live where there's not enough snow for that, so it's just a memory.

That sounds fun. I run outdoors all year round up here in Canada, and even with running crampons, running outside is a challenge. (Dammit people, shovel your sidewalks!) That might be a good alternative for those really blizzardy days.

[Solaris]

That sounds fun. I run outdoors all year round up here in Canada, and even with running crampons, running outside is a challenge. (Dammit people, shovel your sidewalks!) That might be a good alternative for those really blizzardy days.

If you are around Montreal, I know they used to have a snowshoe race at least once a winter there. It is fun, and you can trail run as well (just more important to tell people where you go I guess, b/c you still have to dress a bit light). Some kinds are better than others, at last check, I preferred Redfeather brand running snowshoes. Goretex running shoes or socks highly suggested.

[Harmony]

I run about 2-3 miles every other day. I used to run a lot more when I worked in an office setting. It was a great stress manager and many times alerted me to the first hints of an illness.

My brother had a shoe salesman tell him that running shoes should be one whole size larger than casual shoes. Bro swore by this advice. I tried it and I love having the extra bit of room.

I'm running anywhere from 1-4 miles a day now. It really is a good stress reliever after being cooped up in an office setting all day.

I just got fitted for some good running shoes, and they are a whole size larger than shoes I normally wear. They are working out much better for me than the Nikes I'd been running in.

Since I started running a little over a month ago, my knee problems have all but gone away. I used to get pains in my left knee just climbing stairs. Now, I no longer have any pains going up stairs. :)

[Solaris]

I'm running anywhere from 1-4 miles a day now. It really is a good stress reliever after being cooped up in an office setting all day.

I just got fitted for some good running shoes, and they are a whole size larger than shoes I normally wear. They are working out much better for me than the Nikes I'd been running in.

Since I started running a little over a month ago, my knee problems have all but gone away. I used to get pains in my left knee just climbing stairs. Now, I no longer have any pains going up stairs. :)

My running partner and I found that, at first, our knee pain limited our distance. After a while, our legs strengthened and we could go as far as our lungs and blood sugar would carry us. That is, until our shoes would start to wear out. One pair let me know by a series of calf strains. That sucked. Best bet, log miles on shoes and evaluate cautiously around 500 -- the average replacement mileage. Cheaper shoes won't last as long, and heavier runners will also wear out shoes faster. Also, I've heard anecdotal evidence that Saucony brand, though comfy, seem not to last as long as others. Brooks is my preferred brand.

[Harmony]

My running partner and I found that, at first, our knee pain limited our distance. After a while, our legs strengthened and we could go as far as our lungs and blood sugar would carry us. That is, until our shoes would start to wear out. One pair let me know by a series of calf strains. That sucked. Best bet, log miles on shoes and evaluate cautiously around 500 -- the average replacement mileage. Cheaper shoes won't last as long, and heavier runners will also wear out shoes faster. Also, I've heard anecdotal evidence that Saucony brand, though comfy, seem not to last as long as others. Brooks is my preferred brand.

Brooks is what I've got now! I'm really doing much better. Saucony pinched my little toe and was just flat out uncomfortable when it came to even walking for me. Brooks gave me enough room that my little toe didn't hurt at all.

And I can relate, my knees were what limited me in the beginning when I was trying to work up to just 1 mile... Now that my legs are stronger, there is no pain and I'm managing twice the distance without much effort.

[JonD]

I did it!!!

Yesterday, I ran the Queen City Marathon, in Regina Saskatchewan, Canada. To all of those who are struggling with a couple of miles, know that I was once in your place. Keep it up, and you will be able to run farther than ever!

My time was 4:25:02. I was aiming for 4:22, since my pace was going to be 10:00 min/mile, but at the halfway point, I felt I could risk moving it up to between 9:30 and 9:45, but it was a big mistake. At mile 19, I hit the wall, and had to take a few walking breaks.

By the end, my stomach was in extreme pain. I was so sick of gatorade and water, but I knew my body needed it. It was hard not to throw up as I got my finisher's medal.

I know my time ain't that impressive. (I just found out that a friend from school's sister's husband ran it in 3:07. And it was also his first marathon.) But next time, I am confident that I could get 3:45. If I hadn't gotten injured while training, I probably would've broke 4:10.

So, yes. This is my mindless self-indulgent post to celebrate.

Here are my stats, and a link to my run at garmin's website. My gps watch recorded the whole thing.

Height: 5'11
Weight: 160 (lost 15 pounds in the last 2 months of training.)
Resting Heart Rate: 48 BPM

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[Axion004]

I run, quite a bit by the average person's standard (about 20+ miles a week), but not in comparison to most runners. I picked up running about 2.5 years ago. I had always wanted to be a runner, but hated it because I wasn't good at it. I think most younger people don't have the sort of desire and discipline to just take up running for fun, not unless it's something that's already a part of their family.

At this point, my short runs are what my long runs used to be -- anything less than 3 miles isn't worth going out the door for anymore. I am about to run my first half-marathon in a week.

I am much more aware of what's going on with my body, and I like that. Perhaps this is a function of my tertiary Se, as it makes me relaxed and it's only through this intense type of activity that I become very aware of what's going on with my body.

So who else runs? How far do you run? What hydration methods do you like? Do you take food with you, what kind? Run with music, without? Gear preferences? Injury prevention ideas, cross-training tips?

I picked up running cross country in high school and hated it. I ran about 40 miles per week.

Later in College I started running 10 miles per week.

Now I just run about 8 miles per week(2 miles on a treadmill before I workout in the gym three days a week) and 2 miles around the park.

I don't think you really need to run anymore than 10 miles per week as far as exercise is concerned. I have an insane metabolism so if I run anymore than 10 miles I start losing weight fast. And at 5.7 and 150 lbs who wants to become physically stronger I can't afford to run much more.

I run about 2-3 miles every other day. I used to run a lot more when I worked in an office setting. It was a great stress manager and many times alerted me to the first hints of an illness.

My brother had a shoe salesman tell him that running shoes should be one whole size larger than casual shoes. Bro swore by this advice. I tried it and I love having the extra bit of room.

These days, my biggest problem is dogs; I have to carry pepper spray as some of those buggers just want to rip my legs off.

Living in Michigan, I have to run in the cold. Anything less than 20 degrees keeps me in the house, though. I run in small spikes much of the winter - low mileage only; they will cause hot spots on the feet. They give me traction on pure ice. They won't work if there is a dusting of snow over the glacier. Then I go do some yoga instead.

Go runners! Gotta love those endorphins!

I also live in Michigan. I live somewhat close to Detroit.

[Solaris]

Congrats again to JonD!

Axion, I can't stand treadmill running. Also, I don't necessarily think people *need* to run as much as I did -- I just like it. I'd be running just as much now, but I'm pregnant and couldn't run this summer at all, because it was just too hot in NC (pregnant woman can overheat easier). I've done other things, and think I'll pick up swimming as the weather cools and I can't be as active outside (but that'll be about December).

[Axion004]

Summer two years ago I was outside six days a week running for two hours around a park just because I felt like it. I am guessing that I was running 20-30 miles per week(If not more, I never counted) but after the Summer was over and school started I lost interest.

I then tried to run a half-marathon while attending school but that didn't work(Describe below).

About Five months ago I regained interest in running. Although at first I only wanted to run 1-2 miles instead of 4 miles which is what I would average. I also only run at maximum three days a week now.

Although I am like this because:

A. I am a student and I take school more seriously than I probably should. I keep telling myself that if I waste too much time weightlifting/running/tennis then I won't get A grades and I won't get into graduate school.

Last year I wanted to run a half marathon(I believe it was 13k). I started out the summer at 5.75 inches tall and 160 lbs and somewhat good(strong) physical shape even though I wasn't a runner. By the time it came to the marathon I had lost 22 lbs and weighed 138 pounds and looked too skinny. If I didn't have such a high metabolism/lose so much weight from running I would have ran the half-marathon but instead I just ate food and gained the weight back.I was even a little depressed that I had allowed myself to lose so much weight.

B. I am currently 5.75 inches and 151 lbs. I have been trying to get a girlfriend for the past 6-7 months(I never really wanted a girlfriend the past 21 years of my life) and as far as I can observe running(=Losing weight) does not increase my chances. Most girls I talk to complain about how skinny I am at 150 lbs anyhow.

So I have been lifting weights 3 times per week right now and running two miles on a treadmill three days per week =6 miles a week(Hardly satisfying I know). I'm still contemplating whether or not I will take the extra run over the park on Saturday mornings since right now keeping the weight up is more important to me than running.

Now, don't get me wrong(I LOVE running, much much more than weightlifting) but my end goal right now is to get a girlfriend and since the 20 year old College girl is shallow I have to adjust to their interest. Up to about 2 years ago I didn't even care about my body weight or any of that other nonsense. But, as I got more interested in improving my body physique I apparently got less interested in running.

After I graduate from College and Grad School and everything I keep on telling myself that I will go back and do the marathon but I will probably just have some new sort of obsession and just forget about it.

But, as far as health is concerned, about 8 miles per week or running/walking is good for the body in general. I go through stages in which I run for about 6-7 months and then off for 4-5 months.

[dandylion]

Welcome! And, because I'm a running geek, I'd really be interested in hearing about what shoes you end up with.

Hmm, I'm kind of late in responding, but that's because I never got around to buying running shoes until yesterday, actually. I went to a real runners' store and got myself professionally fitted for a pair of running shoes. My pesky feet. I always have problems with shoes because they're very narrow but long and pretty arched and blah. Anyway, I also have the specialized orthopedic inserts for support, so they're really comfortable. I haven't tried running in them yet but they feel nice, and these felt like they were meant to be (or at least the most "meant-to-be" out of all the other pairs).

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Brooks Ravenna

I previously ran in trainers for a long time, which was a bad, bad idea obviously. Had some issues where some muscle in my right foot would hurt with each step, only when I wore the trainers or tennis shoes, although I was fine otherwise. I haven't gone for a run since November because of that.

[Solaris]

I love Brooks shoes, they are the best on my feet. My last 3 pairs have been Brooks. The pair you have there look comfy and airy. I always have really hot feet, and find air circulation important. The Trance series that I typically wear seem the best in managing that so far. I have a severely underused pair of Trance 8s awaiting the Spring when I can start running again. I might have to replace them though...I'm not sure how pregnancy will have affected my feet and shoe preferences.

Dandylion, it sounds like you were having some painful foot issues. Did they tell you what it was? My former running partner had developed plantar fascitis, and that hurt him a lot. He got inserts and was much better after that. Do you have any exercises to help it? Friend used to roll a frozen water bottle on his foot to help the pain.

[dandylion]

I love Brooks shoes, they are the best on my feet. My last 3 pairs have been Brooks. The pair you have there look comfy and airy. I always have really hot feet, and find air circulation important. The Trance series that I typically wear seem the best in managing that so far. I have a severely underused pair of Trance 8s awaiting the Spring when I can start running again. I might have to replace them though...I'm not sure how pregnancy will have affected my feet and shoe preferences.

Dandylion, it sounds like you were having some painful foot issues. Did they tell you what it was? My former running partner had developed plantar fascitis, and that hurt him a lot. He got inserts and was much better after that. Do you have any exercises to help it? Friend used to roll a frozen water bottle on his foot to help the pain.

It wasn't ultra painful, but it hurt enough. I still played tennis on it, stupidly, but haven't done tennis in a while either. That probably made it a little worse for a while, but I think my foot's better now.

I talked to a nurse practitioner about it and she said it might be that the trainers were wearing out and were changing the orientation of my foot, but doesn't know exactly what because it's not her area of expertise. The guy at the runners' store who was very, very knowledgeable about these kinds of things said it was because my feet weren't being properly supported (the trainers were flat). My feet are oriented so that when I run/walk the impact goes to the outer sides of my feet since they kind of arch outwards (if that makes sense at all). So, my new shoes come with the special inserts to support all that and help absorb the shock better. My knees would hurt, too, so that's supposed to help with that as well.

Have you ever had problems with your legs aching and/or so much you want to rip them off? That seems to happen to me frequently. Sometimes it bothers me so much I can't sleep. I was told by a nurse practitioner that active people or athletes tend to sweat out calcium, so it could be due to a calcium deficiency. Since then, I've tried upping my calcium intake through diet and a supplement (for "back up") and I think it's gotten better. I had the extreme pain yesterday, though, but then again I haven't really been keeping up with the calcium since I've sort of been on vacation.

[Solaris]

It wasn't ultra painful, but it hurt enough. I still played tennis on it, stupidly, but haven't done tennis in a while either. That probably made it a little worse for a while, but I think my foot's better now.

I talked to a nurse practitioner about it and she said it might be that the trainers were wearing out and were changing the orientation of my foot, but doesn't know exactly what because it's not her area of expertise. The guy at the runners' store who was very, very knowledgeable about these kinds of things said it was because my feet weren't being properly supported (the trainers were flat). My feet are oriented so that when I run/walk the impact goes to the outer sides of my feet since they kind of arch outwards (if that makes sense at all). So, my new shoes come with the special inserts to support all that and help absorb the shock better. My knees would hurt, too, so that's supposed to help with that as well.

Have you ever had problems with your legs aching and/or so much you want to rip them off? That seems to happen to me frequently. Sometimes it bothers me so much I can't sleep. I was told by a nurse practitioner that active people or athletes tend to sweat out calcium, so it could be due to a calcium deficiency. Since then, I've tried upping my calcium intake through diet and a supplement (for "back up") and I think it's gotten better. I had the extreme pain yesterday, though, but then again I haven't really been keeping up with the calcium since I've sort of been on vacation.

Yes, bad shoes will cause pain and plenty of it. I have a tendency to start getting mild to moderate strains in my lower calf muscle when my shoes are wearing out. I don't always track mileage very well, and so replace when I "feel" that they need it, not on the miles. Besides, different shoes last different times, and Brooks are expensive (but oh so worth it to me), so I wear them as long as possible. Usually, a short adjustment period to the new shoes alleviates related pain. Don't wear them for anything else, only running.

What about your legs is aching? Is it muscles or is it joints? Proper hydration is important, as is proper nutrition to go with it. It's easy for runners to dehydrate in colder weather, because we forget to drink enough. There are so many nutrients runners sweat out, it's hard to pin down what could be your problem so far. It could also just be the cold (what's your weather like?), or lack of exercise while you healed. I much prefer keeping nutrient intake up through diet more than pills, but a good multivit can be a real help. Get one that is powder in capsules if you can, and preferably food based. At least for me, those have worked the best. Centrum is crap and you poop it out more than you absorb it -- avoid.

You could be having potassium issues as well. Look up some potassium rich foods on nutritiondata.com and try to increase your intake. Raw, fresh parsley is surprisingly good for you, and cheap. It's easy to add to your meals during the day, so maybe pick up some of that.

[dandylion]

Yes, bad shoes will cause pain and plenty of it. I have a tendency to start getting mild to moderate strains in my lower calf muscle when my shoes are wearing out. I don't always track mileage very well, and so replace when I "feel" that they need it, not on the miles. Besides, different shoes last different times, and Brooks are expensive (but oh so worth it to me), so I wear them as long as possible. Usually, a short adjustment period to the new shoes alleviates related pain. Don't wear them for anything else, only running.

What about your legs is aching? Is it muscles or is it joints? Proper hydration is important, as is proper nutrition to go with it. It's easy for runners to dehydrate in colder weather, because we forget to drink enough. There are so many nutrients runners sweat out, it's hard to pin down what could be your problem so far. It could also just be the cold (what's your weather like?), or lack of exercise while you healed. I much prefer keeping nutrient intake up through diet more than pills, but a good multivit can be a real help. Get one that is powder in capsules if you can, and preferably food based. At least for me, those have worked the best. Centrum is crap and you poop it out more than you absorb it -- avoid.

You could be having potassium issues as well. Look up some potassium rich foods on nutritiondata.com and try to increase your intake. Raw, fresh parsley is surprisingly good for you, and cheap. It's easy to add to your meals during the day, so maybe pick up some of that.

I'm not really sure if aching if in the joints or muscles, actually. I mean, I'll probably have to experience it again to refresh my mind and pinpoint where it's coming from, but I hope that doesn't happen. I think it might be the muscles, however, since it seems to kind of shoot up and down the leg, and I also seem to be having lots of issues with flexibility. Recently, my muscles have been feeling shorter and more tense. I have to admit I'm not really one to stretch; I just get started running and that's that. On occassion I will stretch afterward. Running store guy made me do a test involving me squatting and then trying to bring my toes up at the same time. I got the toes up a little before I started falling over. He said this was mainly due to a flexibility issue, explaining how inflexible/short muscles can pull and cause cramps in my calves, foot, or toes. He suggested taking up yoga or using a foam roller to improve my flexibility. I'm going to try to work on that.

Yes, I haven't been really exercising (except running to catch the bus) since I stopped running. I tried cycling for a while but it actually bores me. I live in the city by the bay so it's always cold. You're probably right about hydration, since I don't really drink that much water. Maybe a little bit before I run, and then more after. I'd usually run 4 miles straight so I guess that might be too long to wait.

I don't really like multivitamins, but it makes sense so I'll look into that. The potassium makes sense, since I've heard somewhere about that being related to cramps. I appreciate the help. I'll try scrutinizing my diet and go from there. My diet's pretty much plant-based with little meat, but there might be something I'm missing or not getting enough of.

[Solaris]

I hate multivitamins, too. I've had to take some while pregnant, and so I'm really picky about it.

Flexibility and hydration could easily be your problem. Being pregnant, I have to drink even more liquid. I can't make myself drink enough plain water, so I drink unsweetened herbal teas, or I buy powders and use very little (just enough to add a hint of flavor), or add a little juice. You might try that.

Since you are not eating a lot of meat, are you sure you are getting enough protein and iron? Plant iron (non-heme) and meat iron (heme) forms are different and utilized differently. I have done vegetarian dieting for periods and felt great, so I don't look down on it, I just know that plenty (most?) vegetarians don't get enough protein. Look into things like quinoa to help boost that. Don't rely entirely upon soyfoods for protein.

If you can afford it and have insurance, get a physical with a basic panel of blood work done. It'll give you an idea about iron and such. Good luck!

[dandylion]

I hate multivitamins, too. I've had to take some while pregnant, and so I'm really picky about it.

Since you are not eating a lot of meat, are you sure you are getting enough protein and iron? Plant iron (non-heme) and meat iron (heme) forms are different and utilized differently. I have done vegetarian dieting for periods and felt great, so I don't look down on it, I just know that plenty (most?) vegetarians don't get enough protein. Look into things like quinoa to help boost that. Don't rely entirely upon soyfoods for protein.


I'm not a vegetarian, I do eat meat regularly, just in smaller amounts. Although since I've been at home I just eat what my family cooks which is meat, meat, and more meat. With a few greens and onions sometimes. Men.

Oddly enough, even when I did eat meat often before I was turned away from donating blood 'cause I was low in iron. Hmm... That was years ago, though.

[Solaris]

I'm not a vegetarian, I do eat meat regularly, just in smaller amounts. Although since I've been at home I just eat what my family cooks which is meat, meat, and more meat. With a few greens and onions sometimes. Men.

Oddly enough, even when I did eat meat often before I was turned away from donating blood 'cause I was low in iron. Hmm... That was years ago, though.

Ah. Well, still make sure you're getting enough protein. You'll need more if you are running and exercising more. And definitely get a physical and bloodwork done if possible, just to see what's up. If that's all fine, then it's more likely a hydration or flexibility issue -- though nutrition could still be contributing somehow. Bloodwork would just eliminate some of the major reasons.

I've had bouts with anemia, it's a different sort of feeling. I would feel weak, almost like how you feel just after a bad case of the flu. My muscles would scream for oxygen, and I would notice that I started craving mass quantities of foods containing vitamin C. Then I learned that vit. C helps iron absorption, and that made more sense.

[dandylion]

I think I get enough protein. I've been careful about that.

Yeah, I should probably get a bloodwork one day. Until then, I kind of cheated and went to a site where it lists different kinds of foods in different food groups and you select how many servings per day or per week you have the group of items, then it uses that information to estimate which nutrients you're lacking in and tells you where you can get them. I know it's not accurate or very comprehensive, but it's an interesting start. According to that little survey, I seem to be lacking significant quantities of following:

95% vitamin b12
94% vitamin e
90% vitamin d
84% calcium
83% iron
67% zinc
60% omega 3 fatty acids
60% thiamin b1
60% pantothenic acid

with the percentage representing the amount I'm supposedly lacking. It seems about right.

I don't think I'm anemic. I think when I was turned away from giving blood, I had just enough for myself but not so much that I could avoid going into shock or something if I'd just gave away a pint of blood.

[Solaris]

Given that you are potentially highly lacking in B12 and iron, you could certainly be anemic.

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Both nutrients have associated anemia. Even if you are going on what you have stored, if your diet isn't replacing it, you're heading in a bad direction.

I've read up on both elsewhere before, for my own purposes, and I think there are probably better sources out there. But take a look into it. Running destroys red blood cells at a fairly good clip because of all the impact.

[dandylion]

You're probably right, especially since I didn't understand anemia too well before. But I read a bit more about it and it sounds like that could be the issue. I do experience some of the symptoms: random bruising, heart palpitations/irregular heart beat, and fatigue (explains why I have never felt "refreshed" after even a night of adequate sleep).

I wonder what other secret health issues I have... hmm.

[dandylion]

:/ Anyone else get headaches after running? I noticed I got this the other day and it wouldn't let up until the next day. I read that the cause of it could be broken blood vessels and such, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it.

[Solaris]

:/ Anyone else get headaches after running? I noticed I got this the other day and it wouldn't let up until the next day. I read that the cause of it could be broken blood vessels and such, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it.

Dehydration?

[Megalomania]

Anyone run at night? I try to run for at least an hour every other night during the summer. It's the best time to go in my opinion. It's usually cooler outside and more relaxing because there are less cars and noise. During the winter I don't run because I loathe treadmills and running in the cold wreaks havoc on my lungs. Once you get into a routine running is addictive. I wish I could go running right now, but it's 20 degrees out.

[Solaris]

Anyone run at night? I try to run for at least an hour every other night during the summer. It's the best time to go in my opinion. It's usually cooler outside and more relaxing because there are less cars and noise. During the winter I don't run because I loathe treadmills and running in the cold wreaks havoc on my lungs. Once you get into a routine running is addictive. I wish I could go running right now, but it's 20 degrees out.

I live in NC. I almost exclusively run at night during the summer. I don't have a running partner now though, so I'm not sure what will happen this summer. I'm not running right now because I can't. I am very looking forward to getting back to running after this baby though.

I get honked at less and have less weird comments yelled at me by running at night as well.

[BrooklynBoy]

I used to be a runner until I was sidelined by health problems (the health problems are not due to running). I usually ran about 5 or 6 days a week between 30 - 45 minutes each workout. I also did speed training once a week. I would go to a nearby high school track and do intervals, usually 10 x 440. I ran 5Ks and 10Ks mostly, however, I did one
half-marathon and one marathon.

The poster before me asked if anyone runs at night. I tried morning, afternoon, and evening running and found that morning running worked the best for me. On days that I would run in the morning I would be in a very upbeat mood for the rest of the day.

Solaris, I noticed that you ran a half-marathon. Congratulations. Have you ever run, or do you plan to run, a marathon?

[Megalomania]

I live in NC. I almost exclusively run at night during the summer. I don't have a running partner now though, so I'm not sure what will happen this summer. I'm not running right now because I can't. I am very looking forward to getting back to running after this baby though.

I get honked at less and have less weird comments yelled at me by running at night as well.


I once had someone pull up beside me and lay on their horn while I was running at night. I'm not a very jumpy person though so they didn't get any kicks out of it.

[Solaris]

I used to be a runner until I was sidelined by health problems (the health problems are not due to running). I usually ran about 5 or 6 days a week between 30 - 45 minutes each workout. I also did speed training once a week. I would go to a nearby high school track and do intervals, usually 10 x 440. I ran 5Ks and 10Ks mostly, however, I did one
half-marathon and one marathon.

The poster before me asked if anyone runs at night. I tried morning, afternoon, and evening running and found that morning running worked the best for me. On days that I would run in the morning I would be in a very upbeat mood for the rest of the day.

Solaris, I noticed that you ran a half-marathon. Congratulations. Have you ever run, or do you plan to run, a marathon?

I was training to run a marathon last year about this time. I injured myself and was unable to do it. By the time I healed, I was pregnant. Now, the baby is due literally any minute, and I'm looking forward to getting back to running. I plan to run a marathon in the next couple of years. I just have to figure out how to do it while raising a toddler. If other moms can do it, I'm sure I can as well.

Congrats on yours as well.

I once had someone pull up beside me and lay on their horn while I was running at night. I'm not a very jumpy person though so they didn't get any kicks out of it.

Some people are such bastards. I'm sure they went home to their couch and bucket of fried chicken disappointed.

[Storm]

:/ Anyone else get headaches after running? I noticed I got this the other day and it wouldn't let up until the next day. I read that the cause of it could be broken blood vessels and such, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it.

Not headaches, but my vision starts to fade if I'm working out really hard. I looked it up, and apparently it can be caused by both dehydration and low blood sugar. I started drinking water before I began my run, drink water every 15 minutes, even if I don't feel thirsty yet, and drinking a glass of orange juice after my run. No more faded vision. Apparently, if you wait till you're thirsty to drink, you're already dehydrated. You also shouldn't run if you haven't eaten much that day.

[Solaris]

Not headaches, but my vision starts to fade if I'm working out really hard. I looked it up, and apparently it can be caused by both dehydration and low blood sugar. I started drinking water before I began my run, drink water every 15 minutes, even if I don't feel thirsty yet, and drinking a glass of orange juice after my run. No more faded vision. Apparently, if you wait till you're thirsty to drink, you're already dehydrated. You also shouldn't run if you haven't eaten much that day.

All true. Low blood pressure can cause vision issues as well. Low or high blood pressure can cause headaches, but I think that's more associated with high blood pressure. That's why aspirin relieves tension headaches, it thins your blood.

If you haven't been drinking enough during the day, drink a glass of warm (not hot) water. Your body can't use it to hydrate until it's body temperature. If you are overheated, the cold water can help cool you, but it won't hydrate you any faster.

[dandylion]

Could be dehydration. But I was actually making a conscious effort that day to stay hydrated before and after the run.

On another note, I love my new running shoes. My feet and legs aren't suffering at all, so I feel more comfortable running longer distances at one time.

[Eratosthenes]

Usually during the spring/summer I get into a decent running routine where I run 4/5 days a week. The most I've ever run was about 60 a week running 6 days a week over the summer before my senior year of high school. I could run a 5k in 17 minutes on a course, 16 on the road. I've never gotten anywhere near those kinds of times, since, though. Mostly I enjoy the feeling of staying strong and being happy and relaxed at the end of a nice easy run.

Once winter hits I pretty much stop running, though, because I hate the cold. I've only ever run through one winter, and didn't enjoy it. I'm looking forward to eventually moving to a warmer climate where I can run any time of the year.

[brdmadgrl82]

I'm with Eratosthenes on this one...the winter part. I started running for fun last year and loved doing it in the spring-fall. I see people out running in the winter but I'm afraid I will slip on the ice or something. Not to mention I don't like to have my dog on the street sidewalks when they are salted because her paws bleed and she doesn't do well in the doggie shoes. We usually drive about 20-30min north to the forest preserves and go walking in the winter. I can't wait to run again as soon as spring comes to Chicago :)

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:/ Anyone else get headaches after running? I noticed I got this the other day and it wouldn't let up until the next day. I read that the cause of it could be broken blood vessels and such, but I'm not sure if I'm just imagining it.

I did once in awhile last summer but drinking lots of water or gatorade usually did the trick. Like someone said possibly dehydration?

[Solaris]

For those of you who do not run through the winter, what do you do to keep in shape? Or do you just kinda do nothing?

[brdmadgrl82]

For those of you who do not run through the winter, what do you do to keep in shape? Or do you just kinda do nothing?

I have a yoga and tae bo videos- the tae bo kicks my butt not to mention my dog hates it and jumps and barks when I do it :) I try to take study breaks and do some yoga when I am very stressed out or sense anxiety. Again my animals are all over the yoga mat...makes me laugh.

When I'm feeling down I get on the elliptical and kick my own butt to get out of a slump.

I was on my elliptical for 20min today.

I must add that next winter I am determined to get some cross country skiis!

[Eratosthenes]

For those of you who do not run through the winter, what do you do to keep in shape? Or do you just kinda do nothing?

I lift weights about 3 days/week, but usually don't put on very much muscle. Mostly nothing.

[pip]

A question for all you runners.

Why do you do it?
We (well most of us) live in a world where technology has long since rendered such a means of transportation obsolete.
And if you want to get bored and tired, get a job - at least you'll get paid for the priveledge then. :p

Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood...

[brdmadgrl82]

A question for all you runners.

Why do you do it?
We (well most of us) live in a world where technology has long since rendered such a means of transportation obsolete.
And if you want to get bored and tired, get a job - at least you'll get paid for the priveledge then. :p

Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood...

Because it's super fun ;) I would rather go running in the fresh air instead of watching tv, or going out...everyone has their own idea of fun and what they do to relax/enjoy in their down time. What does getting a job have to do with this post?

[JonD]

A question for all you runners.

Why do you do it?
We (well most of us) live in a world where technology has long since rendered such a means of transportation obsolete.
And if you want to get bored and tired, get a job - at least you'll get paid for the priveledge then. :p

Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood...

I'm going to be completely honest. I run because I love the endorphines, the clear skin, the low body fat I have, and the fast metabolism. Being able to run fast is secondary to that.

[Solaris]

I run for so many reasons. I like how it makes me feel. I like that I can space out and still being doing something productive. I enjoy the endorphins as well. Plus, I enjoy knowing I haven't yet found a distance I can't do (provided I don't injure myself). Once I've recovered from this pregnancy, I have a marathon planned.

[dandylion]

I enjoy running because I like physically exerting myself--it reminds me that I'm alive and that I can do something right and get better at it every time. All I need are two legs (and a good pair of shoes). Running also has the effect of making me feel calm and relaxed yet energetic afterward. It helps me sleep easier, and of course, it keeps me healthy and fit. Oh, and I like being able to run and literally catch a bus.

Why not run?

[s4nder]

I prefer not to slowly destroy my knee joints with repeated multiple body weight impacts so I practice weightlifting and swimming.

[khadi]

Have any of you tried running barefoot, or have thoughts on the matter?

[Aronnax]

A question for all you runners.

Why do you do it?
We (well most of us) live in a world where technology has long since rendered such a means of transportation obsolete.
And if you want to get bored and tired, get a job - at least you'll get paid for the priveledge then. :p

Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood...

Your body is the finest instrument you'll ever own, why wouldn't you want to take care of it?

[rahdam]

A question for all you runners.

Why do you do it?
We (well most of us) live in a world where technology has long since rendered such a means of transportation obsolete.
And if you want to get bored and tired, get a job - at least you'll get paid for the priveledge then. :p

Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood...

I do some running, more lifting.
Makes me physically ready for whatever challenges arise and it feels good.

[Antares]

A question for all you runners.

Why do you do it?
We (well most of us) live in a world where technology has long since rendered such a means of transportation obsolete.
And if you want to get bored and tired, get a job - at least you'll get paid for the priveledge then. :p

Don't mind me, I'm in a silly mood...

I do it because, as someone has mentioned, the endorphins. My Ni tend to go out of control during the day, especially stressful school days. In a way, some Se clears my mind, keeps me sane, and even makes me happy (again, endorphins). A couple of minutes in, you feel some euphoria. I personally have delusions of invincibility and optimism, which is a good balance to my cynicism :)

Running is a unique "introvert moment". I get a lot of wild ideas; even though I don't always implement them, they made me a better person overall. A lot of soul searching goes on, and I identified the pros and cons of becoming a lawyer when I grow up. I don't like to take anyone on my runs, and if I do take someone because I don't want to be harsh about it, I let the fast ones get ahead, or I ditch the slow ones. If they insist on keeping up, I keep my headphones in and they might as well not exist. Other living things are invisible as far as I'm concerned.

I also like to keep fit, and I rather like being slim, tight and fast (metabolism wise). I want to delay physical decline as much as possible, and I think being fit helps with that. PE is not required for Juniors and Seniors at our school, and studies show that people tend to gain some weight after having PE removed from the curriculum. I technically can sign up for PE, but I'd rather not have to do what the gym instructor tells me to do and play inane sports I have no interests in, I'd rather do my own thing.

I like to run in fall, winter and spring. Summer, not so much. You'd find me lazy, reluctant and grumpy if you force me to run during the summer. I've braved some freezing weather (0-3 degrees Celsius)with a thin jacket on a t-shirt and shorts, and funnily enough, I never get sick. I spent my toddler years in a very cold city, and I'm convinced that braving the cold makes you more resistant to diseases.

I average 3.5 miles a day at a pace of about 6.5 mph, at the very least, four days a week; usually 5-6 days. Afternoon is the ideal time. I usually don't like to run into sundown, because then the temperature drops really fast. Once, I got sidetracked and stargazed for about 45 minutes, and when I returned home, I literally could not move my fingers. I haven't discovered my "limit" yet, but I'm usually not very tired when I finish my run. Endorphin highs are over by the time I finish my second lap around my compound, and I just don't have the motivation anymore. Things tend to get boring. Next time Terry Fox comes around, I'm going to try 8.8 km (how does that convert to miles?). Or I might start training for a marathon. Who knows.

[Four]

Try lactic acid build up. It's rather fun. Do this.

Run five one half miles as fast as you can. Take 30 second breaks in between where you jog(don't walk). Hit it again. Hit it again. Oh the pain. It's fantastic. You will feel the pain in the calfs. It's a great exercise.

5 mile cutbacks are fun also. What is your best mile time? Here is how it works. First, run like a 6:45 mile, than a 6:30, than a 6:15, than a 6, than a 5:45. Pain, got to love pain. Take no breaks with this one.

Hills are really fun. Find a hill and hit sprints on it. It's so fun.

Do you run on asphault? My XX coach told us to stay away, far, far away.

I wish I knew more exercises to do. When you run, do you pace yourself and kick at the end? The kick is really important. Are you going to be competetive in the race? How is your pacing?

How is your form?

[Thesmith]

Runner and swimmer here, trying to get back into it after a year long hiatus (I broke my arm, etc.). Gradually working up to 5K running, but am having some trouble with my iliotibial band (ever heard of iliotibial band friction syndrome?). Other than stretching, icing, and taping, anyone had experience dealing with the IT band?

[Megalomania]

I prefer not to slowly destroy my knee joints with repeated multiple body weight impacts so I practice weightlifting and swimming.


Lifting free weights is as bad if not worse than running. Running and giving yourself time to recover is not going to destroy your knee joints unless you overdo it.

[dandylion]

Have any of you tried running barefoot, or have thoughts on the matter?

Only on the beach and inside the house.

[ya lyublyu tebya]

I'm the slowest runner ever, and I get out of breath easily, thanks to, er, certain very large appendages pressing on my chest. I love walking around the neighborhood very late at night, though. It's dark and peaceful, no one is around, and there's always something different each trip around another block, whether it's a change in the wind or some kind of animal scampering around on someone's lawn.

[miocrow]

I like to run but not in dull environements. I will like to run in a forest with lot of branches to dodge, in trafic or in a tornados. Stuff that give a little boost

[JonD]

This summer, I was running in a rather secluded park on my usual course, and as I passed by a bush I saw a man performing fellatio on another man. True story.

Has anyone else had strange things happen while running?

[pasdriz]

I prefer the elliptical that I got in my house. (a steal off craigslist for $150, originally 2500, some rich dude in a high rise in chicago had to get rid of it because there wasnt an elevator to the penthouse suite he was moving into).

The benefits - its better on the knees, i can turn it up to a level that feels like im running in solidifying concrete, I have a fan right on me, I can use it naked if I feel like pretending im running through the forest with my native american friends back in 1546, and I have a HD laptop screen playin illegaly downloaded movies/tv shows so I distract my Intj mind from rationalizing jumping off and going to smoke a pack of cigarettes + beer bong a bottle of whiskey.

Ahh. Pretty much the easiest way to get in a solid cardio workout. If you have the means to get this set up, believe me, your heart/mind will thank you to a greater extent than your wallet could ever complain.

[liquidzilla]

I'm going to take up running on Sunday and do it Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, as well as using a trampette (mini trampoline) in between. Apparently it's a very good way to get rid of depression, which I suffer from, as well as the energy from having anxiety, also suffer from.

[Scatterjoy]

Just ran my first marathon and am completely hooked! Want to shoot for MCM in the fall.

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The only weird sightings I have had running have been snakes! They used to petrify me but I've grown accustomed to them.

[dandylion]

^Congrats on your first marathon! I have yet to do one but I don't think I will be any time soon because something's wrong with my right knee now. I got an X-Ray done yesterday so I'm just waiting to hear about it now, but I don't have confidence they'd figure anything out since I didn't really see a specialist. Meh.

[s4nder]

Lifting free weights is as bad if not worse than running. Running and giving yourself time to recover is not going to destroy your knee joints unless you overdo it.

First of all, I'm no expert on this but I've educated myself a bit on the matter. I also don't expect much support in a thread full of runners.

The key word here is impacts. In weightlifting, motion is slow and though the stress on joints is increased, it's relatively static. Weightlifting actually stabilizes joints so they can better cope with increased loads. People with knee problems are often recommended by doctors to do deep squats with heavy weights in order to strengthen and stabilize joints and it works. Same with back problems and deadlifts. Proper technique is of course important here. Most joint injuries are caused by weak surrounding muscles. Weightlifting is the safest sport of all injury wise.

When running, you're basically pounding on your joints with a hammer. There's no way for the body to compensate for that. With each step the knee is hit by a force equal to three times the bodyweight. It's even worse when jumping where the forces can be up to ten times the bodyweight. That's how people get various syndromes like runner's foot and stress fractures that build up over time. People with body weights over 90 kg are prohibited from running because it will very quickly destroy their knees. I squint every time I see a big guy jog by on an asphalt road in tennis shoes, thinking it's healthy.

If you are light weight, wear proper shoes and run on soft terrain like forest roads, the problems will of course be delayed. Nevertheless, cycling, swimming, rowing, etc, are all far healthier sports.

[dogwoodlover]

I run usually every day or every other day after I lift. I usually run 2 miles, though on day when I'm feeling energetic I'll do 3.

My body isn't really built for distance running, I naturally am more of a sprinter (in middle school PE I had a crap mile time, but I had the fastest 100 yard dash).

[Takeru]

I run usually every day or every other day after I lift. I usually run 2 miles, though on day when I'm feeling energetic I'll do 3.

My body isn't really built for distance running, I naturally am more of a sprinter (in middle school PE I had a crap mile time, but I had the fastest 100 yard dash).

I'm curious, how fast was your mile time? :p

I'm usually better at long distance than doing a sprint. Most people I can beat long distance can REALLY run sprinting.

The fastest mile time I remembered in high school for me was about 6:27. With 3 people ahead of me (two of them were literally in front of me and got 6:25 and 6:26 and the other was around 6:07) Could of gotten better at running the mile if it wasn't for the final testing days.

Anyhow, I've been bent out of shape and have been trying to stuff 3 miles in thirty minutes (requires running for 6mph for the entire time.) Trying to not overexert myself and go crazy.

[weichigobaduk]

I run 3-days a week for about 42.5-minutes at four to five miles per run. When training for an occasional race I will adjust my schedule accordingly.

[dogwoodlover]

I'm curious, how fast was your mile time? :p

I'm usually better at long distance than doing a sprint. Most people I can beat long distance can REALLY run sprinting.

The fastest mile time I remembered in high school for me was about 6:27. With 3 people ahead of me (two of them were literally in front of me and got 6:25 and 6:26 and the other was around 6:07) Could of gotten better at running the mile if it wasn't for the final testing days.

Anyhow, I've been bent out of shape and have been trying to stuff 3 miles in thirty minutes (requires running for 6mph for the entire time.) Trying to not overexert myself and go crazy.


In middle school, my fastest was about 8:15 I think. These days, I'm doing around 7-7:10. Since I'm thinking about doing the Marines once I graduate, I'm trying to get my mile time down to 6:00.

[rahdam]

I ran a BITCHIN' 5:15 in high school

[Solaris]

I think I've done a 6 minute mile before. I don't have my records in front of me right now, but it seems that 6 or 6:30 was my fastest. I hope it doesn't take me forever to get back to that form, but we'll see. I have to rehab my abs from the surgery (after letting the incision heal) before I can pursue anything like that.

[AngryGroceries]

Running puts too much pressure on my knees.

I go for periodic bike rides, though.

[Zodd]

Any guys wear runningpants like this?
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[dogwoodlover]

No. I wear athletic shorts (about knee-length).

[Takeru]

really... I just wear shorts and a tee-shirt to run. And Zodd, no way in hell would I swear such a clothing.

[Solaris]

So Spring running season is here. Who's racing?

[Mozzes]

When running, you're basically pounding on your joints with a hammer. There's no way for the body to compensate for that. With each step the knee is hit by a force equal to three times the bodyweight.

I'm inclined to disagree. The biggest part of the problem is with running form. From what I've seen most people run with this form

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Legs are rigid at the moment of impact and the area of impact is small (just the heel). This problem is amplified by most motion control running shoes which either masks the problem or actively encourages poor running form with raised, cushioned heels.

Instead, most people would benefit from a running form which looks something like this:

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The mid-foot strike provides a larger area of impact and the bent knees allows the impact forces to be shunted from the joints to the muscles.

[Mikk]

So it's concluded, white people can't jump.. or run.

Speaking of running, I hate running and fast walking on asphalt. My knees takes a real beating by it.