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Sevs
11-10-2007, 01:54 AM
Hi guys.

Just out of interest how many of you have how many friends you consider REAL friends.
I mean we all have "friends" and people we get on Ok , also what do you consider a real friend?

Personally I only have 1 or 2 of these people back in Austria. One of them is an INTJ too and therefore we tend to do more geeky stuff together. The other one is the complete opposite and one of the "cool" guys but i get along really well with him as we have a lot in common in non social aspects. Also how do you reckon an INTJ best finds real friends. I am asking because i recently started university here in the UK and have almost no one here. I'd like to find some real good friends again ive looked on my course (computer science) but most people on the course seem to be even more introvert than me and like to talk about nothing else but the subject whereas i try to be more sociable and have a good time away from the computer too.

I also realize most people in this forum are at least 10 years older than me and I think have been through what I am going through at the moment and it be nice to have another INTJs view on the topic.

Regards Sev

ShaiGar
11-10-2007, 02:23 AM
one INTJ - Back in Brisbane
one ESTP - Back in Brisbane
one INTP - Outback Queensland

I only talk to these online though since I am currently in NT

In darwin I get on with my workmates. one is an INFP the other is INFP

oceanicon
11-10-2007, 03:10 AM
one ENFP, two INTJ, one INTP, one ESTJ.

Raven Queen
11-10-2007, 03:21 AM
There are only 3 people I'm truly comfortable around, two ENFPs and an ISFJ. No NTs yet... >:(

Paul V
11-10-2007, 06:19 AM
One ENFJ or ESFJ. We meet daily at school, at least until December, when it ends. Only true friend I've ever had. Everyone else has turned out to be a selfish, backstabbing leech.

Advice: Don't try to search for friends. "I" people don't do that. Instead, lurk for a while and observe the people around you. Identify those who have the most potential to become friends and approach them cautiously.

Sevs
11-10-2007, 08:35 AM
Thanks for your advice Paul.

I know Is don't do that it seems at the moment i#m trying to fight my INTJ but I think i'm just better off accepting it.

Thanks for all your replies at least I know i'm not the only one who prefers a few true friends over a phonebook full of people i hardly know.

orange
11-10-2007, 08:44 AM
True friends.... maybe 2.

The best friend I have found is an INTP. friends since middle school.
The other person I might consider a true friend I dont know what type he is. firends since 3rd or 4th grade, after he stole my watch.

Paul V
11-10-2007, 08:44 AM
Thanks for your advice Paul.

I know Is don't do that it seems at the moment i#m trying to fight my INTJ but I think i'm just better off accepting it.

Thanks for all your replies at least I know i'm not the only one who prefers a few true friends over a phonebook full of people i hardly know.


No problem. I love giving advice. :D

And yeah, that's the story of my life. I rather stick to the friendships I have, and carefully select who I let in. It drives me crazy when people say "C'mon, socialise more! What have you got to lose!" and when I do, I am used and betrayed. Trust me, once is enough for me to learn my lesson.

rwyatt365
11-10-2007, 09:11 AM
I have all of 3 really close, personal friends. We've known each other for 35+ years. They know me and what I'm all about, and don't try to make me fit into their agendas and neither do I with them.

AresX9
11-10-2007, 11:37 AM
Two. One ENFP and the other I'm not aware of his MBTI, but without a doubt he's an NT.

Both I've known since middle school. My best bud I've known since 6th grade, he's the ENFP.

The Rose
11-10-2007, 12:27 PM
I don't think I have a close friend besides my husband.

I have to have a reason to have a relationship with someone.

And, no shopping is not a reason!

OneBadMother
11-10-2007, 12:54 PM
I have two people who I would really make an effort to keep in contact with. This doesn't mean I don't like anyone else, it's just a matter of how much of a connection I feel there is. My INFP friend and I will probably never really be out of contact, and when we meet up it will probably always be like two halves have been joined up once again. My INTJ friend I will probably try and keep in contact with after college, but I figure that if he liked me well enough he'd try and get in touch with me, so I won't sweat it too much.

Rei
11-10-2007, 01:04 PM
something like 2 or 3... one of them is one of those people i just cope with for some reason... i don't agree with her in any aspects (she's an INFP), and yet, i cope with her =/
the other two: my best... INTP (borderline P); ISTP (borderline everything, i swear, he's friggin' bipolar)

everyone else are just people I can carry somewhat of a conversation with/work with etc that i spend time with at school etc.
I generally don't see a point in having that many "real friends"... not many people earn enough trust from me to get that much of my attention...
All a person needs is a bunch of connections for networking purposes...

Notice all my closest friends are introverted?
We all understand that we all need space. We also click well enough to get together after a full year apart and go right back to the point in our relationship the year before. Those are real friends. And if you grow apart... just wait for new ones to come along... there are so many around you that it'll happen whether you like it or not. Just don't compare people you meet with your old friends.

PaulFrancis
11-10-2007, 05:21 PM
Right now, none that aren't family.

That really doesn't bother me at this point in time.

chocky
11-10-2007, 05:39 PM
Peculiar. I was intending to start such a similar topic, but here it already is :)

The more I think about it the less certain I am of having any friends - because now I'm questioning myself: What is a REAL friend? And if I can't respond Yes, I have X real friends! then there is a fundamental problem with my perceptions of others and their relationship to me; with my imagining of their perceptions of me.

If I don't understand what a real friend is, then I think it is pretty safe to say I have none.

It's bothering me somewhat (though the mood will pass), so I might start a somewhat tangential thread that I can regret when I reread it at a later date ;)

Gabrielle
11-11-2007, 04:04 AM
I actually have a fair amount of "true" friends, but that's only because I worked like crazy at it. I have three male friends, and four female friends that we keep in touch with... it's difficult, because it's across the pond! I honestly don't know their personality classification. But they're all pretty different...

Sevs
11-11-2007, 05:40 AM
Well I realized that one of my flat mates can be considered a real friend. Last night when I felt worse than ever about breaking up with my gf she came over and spent the entire evening with me trying to cheer me up. Now I don't think many people would do that.

Anyway it's times like that when I realize that REAL friends are important. I used to think I didn't want either friends or girlfriends. But I fell hard for this girl and we were together 9 months in total and when she broke up 2 days ago i was (and still am) quite devastated I think if i hadn't had people who care around me I'd be totally lost.

Well anyway thanks for the massive amount of responses to this thread I must say since I discovered I am INTJ and finding out there are other people like me I do not feel so much out of place on this planet anymore.

thecraig
11-14-2007, 03:19 PM
I have 5 freinds that aren't family. One I know is a INTP. He and I don't really talk that often and I haven't seen him in 8 years but when we do call each other it is like we just saw each other yesterday. Other than my wife only one of my freinds lives here in the local area. I'm in the AF. Not counting Basic Training and Tech School (tech school was 9 months long) I have been stationed at 4 different bases since I joined 8.5 years ago. I typically only have a very few good aquantences at any place I have lived. It seems I usually end up maintaining some contact with one or maybe two of these people after I leave.

Tarrick
11-14-2007, 07:45 PM
I have a decent amount of friends. However:
2 INTPs
2 INTJs
1 ENTJ
1 ISTJ

Yes. All but one of my close friends are rationals, and the guardian is pretty close to being a rational.

Rohsiph
11-14-2007, 08:01 PM
because it's fun to speculate:

core group (childhood pals):
1 INTP
1 INFP
1 ISTP
1 ESFJ
1 ESTJ

college group (weren't around until a year ago):
1 ESTJ
1 ISTJ
1 ISTP

respected outliers (who i wish i saw a lot more of)
1 ENTP
2 INFPs
1 INTP

I'm probably mistyping quite a few . . . but it's not like I put a lot of weight in these judgments.

cielo market
11-14-2007, 08:04 PM
Hmn... true friends? One? And she moved out of the city to go to school last year. But lucky for me, she understands my INTJness and that me not calling her in over a month doesn't mean I'm mad at her.

Theoden
11-14-2007, 08:26 PM
Mmm.. Funny story. Was at a school overseas. Left abruptly. Apparently "friends" of 8 months felt [insert negative adjective here] at not being informed, bid adieu to, etc.

Meh. If it wasn't for all the spam from them, I wouldn't even be thinking about it.

Sentimentalism really isn't one of my strong points.

Bossy Mom
11-15-2007, 11:50 AM
I had several real friends when I lived in the Midwest. I have had only one real friend here in San Diego and she recently moved to Pasadena (she's originally from Long Island). I know I'm an introvert, but people here are (for the most part) materialistic and phoney.

Santana28
11-15-2007, 11:52 AM
4. 1 no longer talks to me. 1 i'm married to. 1 who i upset and i haven't talked to for going on 2 years now. 1 who i haven't talked to in almost a year. all have issues. all are some sort of NT/TJ combination.

as an INTJ i tend to push people into uncomfortable places within themselves and it always leads to trouble...

Todos
11-15-2007, 09:38 PM
I think I have 2. One lives in town but I very rarely see, the other lives out of town and I very rarely see him either.

I think you could make friends with others in your computer classes, they are more comfortable talking "shop" for awhile but eventually other things will come up.

HeterodoxRobot
11-16-2007, 09:13 PM
I have one "real" friend, myself.

What can I say, one is better than none.

niffer
11-16-2007, 10:25 PM
^
o.o Seriously?

I'm the kind of ENFP that has 43958074389057435437587 friends (90% of them are real, but only 1% of them are both close and real). I mean, only some ENFPs are like me. But your case? Teh rares!

I wonder what your past was like.

Sevs
11-17-2007, 03:06 AM
Hi niffer,

I was wondering what you define as a REAL friend because i define REAL as CLOSE everything else is just superficial familiarity.

niffer
11-17-2007, 05:36 PM
Hi niffer,

I was wondering what you define as a REAL friend because i define REAL as CLOSE everything else is just superficial familiarity.

Real to me means someone I genuinely like that I am pretty sure genuinely likes me back, that I know has good intentions for me and that would be willing to help me out should I be in need. Anyone that is a real human has the potential to easily become a real friend of mine. So basically, a "real friend" is not a "fake" friend.

To me, "real" and "close" are different things. Close is mostly determined by how long I have known the person and how much we hang out. The 1% of friends that I defined as "close" were ones that I have known and done stuff together with for a decade. Openness to sharing emotions and ideas, as well as pure "chemistry" are factors that raise the overall closeness level as well. "Close" means we're tight. We click. We have no problem with any aspect of each other (or our individual defects don't affect each other, lol). We would never even consider leaving one another as friends, nor would it be possible. We are at total ease when we are together, and we know that we can be ourselves down to our very cores without each other having any objections, or loving us any less. These are the types of friends that I can pick my nose and wipe my mucus on at my leisure, and whose genitals I can threaten to grab when they annoy me (and I would actually do it and not feel embarrassed during it or afterwards).

Btw, I am curious as to why you consider familiarity superficial. Might it not mean something that you are willing to remain as an icon of consistancy in presence and casual familiarity (at the very least), rather than retracting or being cold in an implication of negativity and aloofness towards one another?

vulcan
11-18-2007, 04:16 AM
Probably like 6 people I hang out with in total.

Darklord
11-18-2007, 05:47 AM
1. I've known him for 12 years, counting the ones that I had no contact with him, and we still meet up and have good times. He's the only guy I can call after not having exchanged a word for 12 months, and just agree to have one of us come over to the other and play strategy games that weekend. He's also the least demanding person I know. My parents used to tell me, "Why don't you go up and talk to him? He's been here for hours and you haven't spoken a word!"
Two people hanging out in the same house, in different rooms, doing different things, with very little interaction, and both enjoying it and wanting to do it again. Now, that's friendship.

BlackHawk
11-18-2007, 06:37 AM
Let's see . . .
I have three close friends, and a slightly larger circle of acquaintances
One is INFJ . . . really a unique person
One is ExFJ . . .
and One is an ENTJ

WavesSootheMe
11-19-2007, 03:52 PM
I have one friend that I consider extremely close. We don't get together often, but when we do it feels like no time has passed. We call fairly regularly to catch up, and I usually despise the phone. She is the only person, other than my family, that I see always being in my life. The connection I feel with her and the admiration I have for her is something I can't really explain and that I don't experience often. I put in on par with what I felt for my last serious boyfriend (minus the sexual intimacy of course).

I actually have a group that I hang out with on a regular basis, as well as other people that are on the same level but outside of that circle. Rough estimate is 10-15 people that I consider good friends. They are very interesting people and I love spending time with them, but I can picture us drifting apart over time and distance etc.

Then there's another group of 10-15 people that I consider acquaintances. They're basically friends of friends that I see more often than not when I see those friends. Some I can see and have seen without the mutual friend, some I just keep on a very superficial level. I'll include them in emails for invitations to events, but I have no preference as to whether they show up or not.

The Many
11-19-2007, 04:15 PM
I have three "real" friends, an ESTP, an INFP and an ENFP - I seem to have been drifting away from the ENFP a bit lately, though. Then I have some more close acquaintances, an ISFP, an INTP and an INFJ among others, as well as obviously a bunch of more shallow acquaintances.

niffer
11-19-2007, 08:45 PM
I seem to have been drifting away from the ENFP a bit lately, though.

This is expected. When we are getting to know you, we doggedly hunt you down every day while we try familiarize with you. Then we later leave it up to you to hunt us down if you still wish to associate with us.

DeepPurple
01-09-2008, 09:15 PM
I only have one current friend who is not a relative. I also have one aquaintance, who happens to be my friend's friend.
In elementary school I had one friend and one aquaintance.
In middle school I had one friend and 3-4 aquaintances.
In my first high school I had about 9 aquaintances. 3 being teachers.
In my second high school, I had 5 aquaintances. A really weird bunch.

Some of them would've made great friends. Although I was a lot more negative and pissed off back in high school. So they would like me some days and on other days they wouldn't want me around. It's understandable, I know I wouldn't want to be around an angry pessimistic person for long periods of time.

Blacklustre King
01-09-2008, 10:54 PM
Two and just two. I see both them very often. One is an INFJ and other an INTP.

Hoorurly
01-10-2008, 03:19 AM
None - only family.

Antares
01-10-2008, 03:20 AM
Friends that I genuine love and appreciate? Hard to say... About three, I think. One is ISTJ, one is INTJ and another ENTP. As for the ISTJ, I don't know whether we are still best friends. She's my first 'best friend' (how many can you have?) and we were practically like sisters. Both introverts, we found it difficult to socialize and naturally, after living near each other for a couple of years, we've developed quite a close bond. All this happened seven years ago when we were both eight and lasted three years until she had to leave for Italy. We have almost nothing in common anymore. We still see each other 1-2 times every year, but I found myself tiredly searching for topics to discuss with her. While with school friends, one can discuss almost anything: What happened in class, what happened between her and him etc, but if we tell each other such things, chances are that we probably wouldn't be interested anyway seeing what goes on in each others' school is not quite connected to us. I still treasure the memories of our time together, but I'm not sure she'd ever come back to Shanghai. She did not change much, but I am a much different person than when she first knew me. I don't know if she likes the person I've become, but to me, she'll always be the 'Golden' friend.

logos
01-10-2008, 08:00 AM
INFP x4
ISTP
INTP - one of my brothers, but still a very good friend
INTJ

Over
01-10-2008, 08:09 AM
1

PortInStorm
01-10-2008, 12:00 PM
hmmm, 4, I'd say. My husband who's an ESFJ (we are very companionate, not so much mindmates), an ENTP who I've known for about 10 years (we seem to be like the two halves someone else mentioned, understand each other almost automatically), a professor friend (xNTJ), and a newly developing friendship with ... an ESxJ, I think? I really like SJs as friends, contrary to what some others prefer. They're very trustworthy, help you out, and are reliable.

OK, 5. My mom is amazing, an INFJ.:lovestruck:

ushop
01-10-2008, 12:10 PM
Two. One is ISTJ, and the other xSFx.

Snuggles
01-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Of the people I work with that I took a personality test:

2 ISTJ's
2 ESTJ's

I really don't ever get close to people... I've never lived in a given area more then 4 years or so (and I'm only 23 at this point).

Right now, my roommate is probably my closest friends. He's just a good guy and doesn't go out of his way to hurt people or anything.

He's probably the only person I've met within the last 6 months of moving to this area I haven't gotten upset with for some reason or another.

ssfanatic
01-10-2008, 05:22 PM
I can confidently say only one. Thats all i need and thats all im willing to place trust in.

Indigo
01-11-2008, 10:58 AM
I do have a host of friends, people who know and like me. As for true friends, I would only count 3. And only two of them that I don't have to check my phone book for their number when I call them. Only one of them do I talk to on a nearly daily basis.

But I can't stand to be around any of them for extended periods of time!

mrkaizoku
01-11-2008, 02:26 PM
I have four real friends if you can count family members. My closest friend is my younger brother. We've been close for a long time, and he just gets me.

emaleth
01-11-2008, 03:03 PM
Only one. and if that counts or adds up anything he's also INTJ.

FLBareBear
01-11-2008, 08:48 PM
None - 0 - Don't need or want "friends". They drain my energy and waste my time.

Don't have any family left either

gabriel
01-13-2008, 05:39 AM
Only 1/2 here, someone who is trying to be friends with me.

Saurus
01-13-2008, 07:48 AM
I have some real friends (5 or 6) but since I was 18, I go so deep in my mind -- alone -- that nobody can follow me. I still a mystery for them. And because I move a lot those years, the comunication is almost phone/internet.

Richard0612
01-20-2008, 06:08 AM
Apart from my family, I only have about 3 people that I would call 'real/true' friends.
1 ISTP
1 ENTP
1 who I'm not really sure of, probably ST/NT though.

The types are based on my personal anaylsis, I haven't managed to get any of them to do the MBTI yet. :p

Tokey41
01-20-2008, 09:32 AM
I would say three

1 INFJ
1 ENFJ
1 ESFJ

I only recently met the INFJ and ENFJ at university but we became friends incredibly quickly, it seems like I am over at their dorm (they live together) every night. The ESFJ has actually been my best friend since grade 8, I don't know why though... seems like i'm always taking care of him.

thod
01-20-2008, 11:01 AM
I had a friend just once. I saw that it was a personal weakness. So I killed him.

MintNut
01-21-2008, 08:31 AM
1, an ISFJ, and I'm happy with that number

dandylion
01-21-2008, 09:11 AM
I'm not really sure what a real friend is.

A few years ago I used to think I had best friends, but no, I didn't. I drifted away from one of my best friends because her head was up in the clouds too much, she couldn't think 10 minutes into the future, and she seemed to much of a parasite (esp. me and her boyfriend). So I just quietly cut off connections to her. My other best friend, we're still friends and she thinks we're best friends, but I don't think we are anymore; we're just good friends... even though we never call each other or spend time with each other. Shh, don't tell her.

I have lots of friends, but none of them are really truly close to me. I do see two friends very frequently, but they're not really close either. I never get close with anyone. So no, I don't have any real friends... Unless family friends count--then I'd probably have more than I could count on my hands.

BadMojo
01-21-2008, 09:41 AM
I would say five

Jgib5328
01-21-2008, 10:28 AM
Jeez I can't believe how few friends some of you guys have, no offense. I have at least 11 and I consider that not too much. I have a good bit of acquaintances too that I'll talk to or occasionally hang out with. I am somewhat outgoing for an introvert I guess. To be fair, I don't have many real friends at college though, maybe 1 or 2 and a few acquaintances.

I guess I'll go with the crowd and try and type them..

ISTP
ENFP
ESTP
ENFP
ESTP
ENTP
ISTJ
ENFP
ENFP
ENTP
ENTJ

I was a football player in high school so that explains the STPs and I really like ENFPs for some reason, they are fun I guess. ENTPs are really cool because of their laid back nature, but they still have the rational mind. ENTJs are my second favorite type, unfortunately I'm only friends with one.

Uytuun
01-21-2008, 01:18 PM
Real real real friends I open up to with feelings and all?

INFJ (especially)
ENFJ
2 other people I hardly ever see these days and don't know their types. They live in another country.

I have quite some other friends, but they don't know me as completely as the INFJ and ENFJ do.

jnpl0011
01-21-2008, 01:35 PM
two.... and even they aren't as close to me as they used to be. One ENFP and an INTP. I'm still hoping to find someone to be closer to than them. The ENFP is good for having a good time and talking with about our interests and silly stuff. The INTP is a drinking buddy and the one I talk to about personal things.

AgentofGaming
01-21-2008, 06:14 PM
This may sound bad, but they're only friends when we get to see each other a lot (like classmates). Otherwise when we no longer see each other I wouldn't contact them out of the extraordinary (and they wouldn't contact me). So that ends up a bit awkward.

lowbrass
01-21-2008, 08:21 PM
I always had a few close friends in my life, but that stopped sometime around 25. Four years later, I have a lot of mutually-beneficial friendships, but no go-to person or group, really. This seems ok for now, as I have options in terms of social engagements, but also a buffer in case I want more time for myself.

Provoker
01-23-2008, 09:02 PM
Of my close friends (excluding family): 1 INFJ, 1 ENTJ, 1 ENFJ, 1 INFP...girl friend=I*FP.............and then hundreds of aquaintences.

A few additional remarks:
1. N is a requirement for close friends. All of my closest friends through out my life have been Ns. That's a historical fact.

2. J is usually important for me although my gf is a p. This sometimes drives me nuts as she's often not compelled to solve complicated things. Once I start deliberating and considering solutions or outcomes she just says whatever and changes the subject - leaving it open-ended. In short, normally I am closer to Js than Ps but my gf is the exception.

3. All else equal, I's have always been closer friends. I can really open up to them and spill my guts out. For E's I have to be relaxed, the environment has to be right, I have to be in the right mood, etc. With I's these factors aren't as important, but with E's they're very important.

4. Ts or Fs, that's not entirely crucial for me. Both have pros and cons. Fs are usually warmer which amounts to being easier to talk to and open up with. So although they may not necessarily provide the feedback or draw the same conclusions as the T would, they none-the-less provide a warm and theraputic atmosphere which is essential for creating mutual trust that will facillitate good discussion. I think there is a trade off between the T and F as a companion. While the T may be more insightful, logical, rational they may not create good enough conditions for effective social interaction. Rather, the F (which may lack some of these abilities) makes up for it by being emotionally intelligent and creating conditions of warmth and trust which is disarming and as a result the INTJ can get out all his or her ideas and theories.

csteinman
01-24-2008, 01:10 AM
1 ISFJ

and 3 other friends who i see bi-monthly at most.

Antares
01-24-2008, 01:36 AM
Ok. I've discovered that my friends are:

INFJ (I typed her wrong, but I had her take the test)
INTJ (I made her take a test as well)
ENTP (I'm guessing here)

denaria
02-06-2008, 05:55 AM
I haven't got any real friends except my husband and children either. One of my sisters-in-law thought of me as her friend until I managed to upset her before Christmas (didn't understand family dynamics ho-hum) and although we've patched things up she hasn't called me recently. I'm not particularly scary, well not at first meet anyway, but I don't understand how to keep female friendships going. I know you're supposed to do stroking and swap deep secrets and so on, but how often, what form? Generally I much prefer male company but most men my age belong to someone else, and getting too chummy is viewed with deep suspicion, both by their other halves and my own :(.

Kotetsu
02-06-2008, 06:39 AM
Two. One's probably ISTJ and the other ENTP.

pavman
02-06-2008, 06:48 AM
I'm not sure what constitutes a real friend...do they have to call you and show interest? Or if you do all the work to maintain the friendship, yet they never turn you away, does that count?

I used to have more, but right now I have ... 6. Usually I have "more" but lately I've been trying to determine who my real friends are, and to foster those relationships by actually *gasp* spending time cultivating them... and letting go of the idjut acquaintances I've made in the last few years (and some are really obnoxious...at one party, a chick told me that "no one will go to your funeral" LOL. I just told her that would make me holier (she's the religious type) since, well, you know...prophets were unpopular too! ;o)

PortInStorm
02-06-2008, 07:38 AM
Generally I much prefer male company but most men my age belong to someone else, and getting too chummy is viewed with deep suspicion, both by their other halves and my own - Denaria

Yes, Yes, Yes!! That is one of my biggest beefs, currently. I really enjoy the non-baby talk of men my age (I'm 31- I mean literally not talking about young children). I like that arguments can spout and then it's over- permanently. I love that they still have interests outside of the home, love their relative lack of agony over relationships. And of course I know not all women are the opposite of these positive characteristics, but it's particularly prevalent in my age bracket, it seems.

But all this is at risk because no one can separate a mind-attraction from a physical one. OR, and this kills me, this new stupid idea of emotional infidelity. What's with that? In this book of the same name, I understood that the author thought it was unfaithful to share ideas/stories etc with anyone else but your spouse first. Otherwise you were robbing your relationship of 'growth'. Gimme a break! My spouse could care less about some of the things I think about or do, and vice versa. Thank goodness he's not the jealous type- his mom is though ;) (of me with other men).

To me, it's not infidelity unless you have sex. Sorry, I know this is off topic, maybe I'll start a thread. I know many disagree with this.

Ace1337
02-06-2008, 07:57 AM
I have many people who consider me a friend, but I don't have anyone I would call a friend in the real meaning of the word. Friendship is like a spiritual experience for me and I have really high standards for it.

Cuivienen
02-06-2008, 08:21 AM
friends in the normal sense of the word? 15-16

number of those whom I would call my real friends?: 2 (an ENTJ and an INTP, both guys)

I get along with most people, but there are not many whom I respect enough to talk to them about what I really think. traits I don`t think I could do without in a real friend would be intelligence, humour, self-respect, self-control and independence (enough to dare to be true to who they really are and not care what people think, which isn`t always easy to find in people my age (I`m 19)).

The others I like, can talk to and am there for when they need me, but I`m pretty sure that if we met after not seeing each other for a year or two, we wouldn`t have much to talk about.

JTG
02-06-2008, 08:36 AM
I have two i think?

One's a guy i grew up with. We're "best friends" i guess, even though i don't really hold much emotional attachment. We've been friends since we were six, and we keep in touch (he calls, haha) even though we haven't lived near each other for almost 10 years. I'm not particularly open with him.

The other is a kind-of-ex. We don't talk as much, but when we do there's a lot more "attachment" i'd call it. We share emotions is i guess what i'm trying to say.

PortInStorm
02-06-2008, 02:03 PM
I have two i think?

One's a guy i grew up with. We're "best friends" i guess, even though i don't really hold much emotional attachment. We've been friends since we were six, and we keep in touch (he calls, haha) even though we haven't lived near each other for almost 10 years. I'm not particularly open with him.

The other is a kind-of-ex. We don't talk as much, but when we do there's a lot more "attachment" i'd call it. We share emotions is i guess what i'm trying to say.
You sound so much like someone I used to know, it's freaky.... A kind-of-ex, as well. I never used to think they could be a friend, but now I know better, at least in one instance.

Colette
02-06-2008, 02:23 PM
3 or so. One of them I don't see as often as I'd like, either because we both forget, or because she's too busy.

Quite Robert
02-16-2008, 06:45 PM
1 INTJ
1 ISTJ
1 ESFP (Though we see less and less of each other)

Nyiah
02-16-2008, 11:49 PM
3ish; INTP, ENFP, ISFJ. And they don't know each other...

gillyweet
02-17-2008, 06:45 AM
i've got:

1 good friend who i can call up at any time and talk about anything. Especially when upset or frustrated by emotional people. She manages to make me laugh even when i'm bawling my eyes out.

2 good friends who i discuss philosophy and life with. We are all cynical and bad for each another but can't imagine not having monthly musings.

2 good friends/mentors i cry to when life sucks. they give solid advice for an INTJ with teenage hormones.

AgentofGaming
02-17-2008, 09:35 AM
Of real friend's I've actually met physically

A friend I met in Gr. 4 ISFP
A friend I met in University ISTP

I guess the closest friends would be my brothers
ESTP
INTP

hmm a lot of IS-P.

schmidt
02-17-2008, 01:32 PM
3

Necrosis
02-17-2008, 05:11 PM
2 Good Friends since I was 3. One of them I can pretty much tell anything if there need be a time for that, although as we've grown up we both went our own ways.
And a third friend that I've met in College. He's probably the only person who puts up with my INTJ qualities. Other than that I'm pretty much alone.

liger0
02-17-2008, 05:26 PM
I have an entire group of people with whom I frequently talk.

In terms of "true friends" in the traditional sense, I have never had any. I have associated with a few people in the past whom I have called "friends". Usually, I associate myself with them for a while until we eventually lose contact.

That's not to say that I cut ties with them, rather we both agree that it is time to move on. We've both enjoyed our company and now we can go on to bigger and better things. They sometimes track me down and it's like we never lost contact in the first place.

It's just the way I conduct things.

lordrrr
02-18-2008, 08:06 PM
I have a lot of true friends. Don't know any of their personality types but I doubt they are INTJ's or even intellectuals in general.

Scooby
02-19-2008, 05:06 AM
I had one really close friend. I suspect he was an INTJ as we were nearly exactly the same in about everything. He died about 16 years ago when we were in the Army. I have not had another friend since. No real need for one. My kids are the closest, but you have to keep a parent/child relationship in place until they are old enough to understand the boundaries.

Antares
02-19-2008, 05:12 AM
ENTP (I'm guessing here)

Ew. I typed her wrong too. She's actually ESTJ. I guess I'm really bad at this. Are my friends so foreign to me that I can get their temperament wrong?

AgentofGaming
02-19-2008, 10:21 AM
Ew. I typed her wrong too. She's actually ESTJ. I guess I'm really bad at this. Are my friends so foreign to me that I can get their temperament wrong?
You got two right
At least you know where to start.

Me, I'd just get them interested in taking a personality test, and then I check if it matches.

Vicimdhar
03-20-2008, 04:03 PM
0 persons I consider as close friends/confidantes. With family I can discuss more, but even then there's a lot I won't discuss.

At elementary school I had quite a few close friends with which I discussed nearly everything. During high school this got reduced to classmates I hung out with regularly. At university, I had fellow students with whom I spent lectures and breaks. Nowadays, I get along fine with some colleagues, but that's it.

gogurtdynasty
03-20-2008, 04:08 PM
i have tons and tons of good friends (from the year where i didnt have a computer) but i only regularly hang out with 8 or 10 or them

sriv
03-20-2008, 04:09 PM
In elementary school and middle school I was selectively mute, barely speaking a few sentences in school and blabbering at home. Now that I am more mature, I have a few friends. Only one true friend though. One friend with which I share all my problems. I got him to take the type test, he is an ENFP but he thinks it is shallow and hates when I speak of it.

zero
03-21-2008, 04:52 AM
Four real friends which I can talk everything with. I have no idea what their personality type is but I think two are INTJs and the other two are something like our complete opposite ( I don't know much about personality types, I just know I'm an INTJ :D )

eternaltriangle
03-21-2008, 05:05 AM
I benefited a great deal from Ontario's gifted program - I was part of a semi-segregated group of students (within a larger high school), that stuck together the whole way through. There are at least ten people from that group that have formed a social core for me. There are also a few from university, but they are mostly less close. However, now I live in the midwest, and it is hard to meet good people - I was a bit disappointed at the lack of nerds in my grad program (perhaps I should have gone to a better school).

What I miss mostly is the activities that are available when you have more people. Particularly things like board games, or dungeons and dragons (but also sports). I really love Risk, even though I always lose (its my low F).

I don't think we are the only antisocial MBTI though... my dad has no friends other than my mom in the city he lives in. He has one friend from university, and a cousin (they grew up in the same house and are the same age though) that he is very close with. He will occasionally go drinking with some guys from work, but he really lacks much of a social circle, and is pretty okay with that (nonetheless he always bugged me about not socializing when I was young).

Zirka
03-21-2008, 08:08 AM
I have 4 good friends:

my ESFP sister

my aunt, who is more of a mentor

2 friends I made at university one who's an I, the other who's an E

dissident
03-22-2008, 04:03 PM
zero. I don't want friends outside of a significant other. I just don't have enough interest in the world period to need someone to socialize with casually. Even the subjects I am interested in, such as science, politics, economics, spirituality, philosophy, I'm not into spending hours talking about them.

Nausved
03-22-2008, 04:18 PM
Three. An INTJ, an ENFJ, and an INFJ (or at least that's what I think they are). They are the only people I really look forward to seeing and who I can rattle on for hours with.

(Note: two of them are my parents, so I'm not sure if they count.)

Haphazard
03-23-2008, 07:28 AM
Two, and my brother. I'm much more talkative on the internet than in real life. I think with my real friends I might have an INFP there and an ISFJ. My brother I think is an INXP.

Fervency
03-23-2008, 09:18 AM
I have a high standard for what I think a real friend is, so I would say I have zero. I seek real friends as much as I seek a quality boyfriend. They are all difficult to find.

Motor Jax
03-23-2008, 09:24 AM
i'm surrounded by people

they all know when i get off, they all know how many jobs i have, they know when and where i work

and when i get home, the phone never stops ringing

i cannot even get online without being asked by buddies to go out, when they are only a couple of buildings over

wtf?

i have to keep coming up with excuses to not be seen

Moriarty
03-23-2008, 10:14 AM
Personally, I have 2 friends that I consider "real" friends. All others are just working relationships or casual relationships.

Alcuin
03-23-2008, 11:09 AM
2 'close' friends nearby, 2 out of state. The rest are casual friends or coworkers that I dont trust with my secrets.

Agile
03-24-2008, 10:47 AM
I love this question. I have five friends, two I interact with regularly, and one is my real friend.

My definition of a friend is very stringent and this is why I (currently) consider one person a real friend. Much of this definition follows...


They check up on you from time to time, no matter what. Through hell or high water, they will get in touch with you, if only to say hello. It does not matter how busy you are, as this is almost never impossible. And I believe people who avoid keeping in touch either deliberately or mistakenly have inadvertently expressed that they do not care about you (out of sight, out of mind). This point is minor and only icing on the cake, and does not disqualify you from being considered a friend, just probably not a close friend.

They care about you and keep up with the details of your life...that is, you are important to them, and they are considerate of you. A real friend does not forget your important goals, etc.

They are there for you when and if you need them (this also assumes IMO that you are mature enough to almost never need them). And if not, they are honest enough to tell you the truth should they choose not to be.

They understand you, they listen to what you are saying, from your perspective, and respond accordingly. For example: if you are emotional and illogical, they know that when you complain about your problems you do not want solutions, but are looking for a friendly ear, someone on your side. A 'real friend' would do this, whether they are a logical person, or not, except where more important concerns take precedence (for example, you are seeking a friendly ear to rationalize reckless behavior, and they are obligated as your friend to set you straight). This is not me personally (not emotional/irrational) but it's a great example...especially as many 'would be' friends often counter my own statements about a problem, seeking solutions (especially when phrased as questions!) with worthless remarks which attempt to spin things positively and 'boost my self-esteem.' I'm not ungrateful for their caring, so I do not respond rudely. They are probably NF or something, and focus on the emotional interpretation rather than the logical one. Perhaps this will be a future litmus test for potential friends (and girlfriends).

They are not 'fairweather friends' or people who are around for good times only.

That is, friends are not the type of people who avoid you or cut off contact because you do not tell them what they want to hear. Nor are they the type of people who tool you by coming to you only when they want the type of perspective you provide. I know that this last point will put some people on the defensive, and I'll say this, I find the idea that 'friends should fill specialized needs in our lives' to be an extremely self-centered concept. The equivalent of, when my tooth hurts, I call my dentist friend, when my car needs maintenance, I call my mechanic friend, when I need taxes done, my accountant friend, and on and on. Some people use this same method for "when I want to have fun," "when I need cheering up," "when I need relationship advice," "when I need help on a project," and on and on. That's the definition, IMO, of a fairweather friend, or someone who uses people. These people are no friends of mine, and never will be (for the forseeable future).

That said, I would like comments on my views of friendship, this last one in particular, as I cannot find anything to balance it out (other than having 'fake friends' that use me in this particular way, which I cannot stand and therefore do not allow in my life). Just like we pay the dentist, mechanic, accountant, etc, can anyone 'justify' the more of having mutual tooling as a basis for friendship?

Also, as this post is rather long, I left out some of the more basic concerns, such as common interests and opinions, or even differing interests and opinions, as I mainly focus on values and generally do not distinguish between people based on their interests and preferences (actually I do distinguish on opinions, since they tend to express our values). I'm also not big on 'accepts you for who you are' as this implies an individualism I do not agree with(though debate me on this). Temperament is also unimportant, since I see myself as rather adaptable. Opinions? :thumbsup:

zibber
03-24-2008, 01:59 PM
I still have three (male) friends from high school, who are my oldest friends. I rarely see one of them, and the other two I see once or twice a month. I have one friend through one of my few hobbies (I really, really hesitate to name it here, it being (mostly Japanese) pro wrestling), who is actually a typically "cool" guy I never saw myself bonding with. Conversations with him are quite different from the ones with my other male friends. In my first two years of art history I hung out with a lot of girls, and now I still see two of them. One as a friend, maybe once every two months, and I'm in a relationship with the other. Most of my social interactions are relatively shallow conversations with study-mates during breaks and after class, and I do get bored by myself sometimes (my girl's in England till May), but I'm somehow just not capable of having more contact with my true friends. I'm rarely the one who calls, either, and I frequently leave my phone in silent mode.

malefide
03-24-2008, 02:45 PM
I really only have one true friend. It takes a lot for me to call someone my friend. The other people that I have contact with on a semi-regular basis are something more than acquaintances and less than actual friends. True friends that I thought were loyal and betrayed me are no longer true friends. Anyway, I am not sure of my friend's type exactly--she may know but I'm not sure. She's definitely N and probably P. ENFP or ENTP wouldn't surprise me.

Edit: Okay, yes, she's an ENTP.

Ainegue
03-24-2008, 02:54 PM
Like malefide, I too only have one true friend. There's aren't very many people that get along well with me at school. I know a small group of people, and then I have one "best" friend - although she and I really don't see eye-to-eye most of the time.

lordrrr
03-24-2008, 09:12 PM
Let's see... I have about 11 male friends and 4 female friends.

People always approach me wanting me to be their friend because I kick so much ass, but I never let them be my friend unless they accept me as I am. Usually, they'll be like "if you act this way then I'll be your friend" and I go NOOOO WAY JOSE. If you want to be my friend, you got to accept me as I am. Those who can accept me for who I am are my friends. I am quite picky about friends, and it always takes a long time for me to make them. I have a couple more acquantinces, but those 15 people are my friends who I will always be there for and who will always be there for me. Deep and meaningful friendships are important, just not the concept of friends, hence why I have more deep and meaningful friends than I do acquantinces or lukewarm friends.


FYI NONE of the people out of the 15 friends I put there go to my school. NONE of them. I hate the people at my school.

Fej
03-25-2008, 06:12 PM
I have zero. 0 friends.

:(

Antares
03-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Let's see... I have about 11 male friends and 4 female friends.

That's... A lot of 'real' friends.

lordrrr
03-25-2008, 07:58 PM
That's... A lot of 'real' friends.

They are all real friends.





lordrrr added to this post, 0 minutes and 46 seconds later...

I have zero. 0 friends.

:(

I'm sorry to hear that.

I'll be your friend!

green eyes
03-26-2008, 09:48 AM
FYI NONE of the people out of the 15 friends I put there go to my school. NONE of them. I hate the people at my school.

Church youth group?

lordrrr
03-26-2008, 04:31 PM
Church youth group?

Don't have one of those at my Church.


These people are people who used to go to the same school as me but I have changed so many I don't see them at my school. Havn't been in my current school long enough to really trust anyone.

Also, people who are, you know, family friends. Their parents are friends with my parents, and thus we were forced to socialize, and after socializing I find them to be really great people.

I have a certain criteria for making a true friend:
1. Person must not ask me to change anything about me. If I smell, deal with it. If I'm ugly, deal with it. If I cough to much, deal with it. If I have an annoying laugh, deal with it (not saying I have any of these things or don't have any of these things, I'm just saying I'm not changing for anyone).

2. Step beyond the box society holds you prisoner under. Talk to me about philosophical, or even political topics, at least ONCE for a good period of time and we have bonded dramatically. Allow me to just TEACH you at least, if you don't have valid enough views already, and prove that you have truly understood what I have taught you, and you're golden.

3. Be loyal. This is why it takes a while, and a lot of interaction, to count someone as a true friend. One of the bigger tests is the "around your other friends" test. When around your other friends, I expect that you treat me just as good as you treat them. I promise to respect them, but if they treat me badly in any way, you correct them or your out the door. If you don't jump on his diss me bandwagon, or you at least reciprocate his insult with one of your own directed at him (or her of course), you're good. I'm not going to be second place fodder and still be a true friend. An acquantince, maybe, but I am very intolerant and uncomfortable around people who don't put me at the top of their priority list in terms of who they respect.

4. Give me good times and promised alliance. These are the two reasons to even have friends in the first place. Also, listen to my ideas when I want you to and respect them, and if you can please add input (or at least question me!) and I will add you to the best friend roster. Hang out with me routinely, don't forget about me, don't discard me or I will discard you, and just plain fix all the finishing touches on our friendship and you will be entered.


All of the 15 people, the 11 males and 4 females, have completely undergone and successfully acquiared in a positive direction the above criteria.

Opivy1980
03-26-2008, 07:52 PM
None, I have people who aren't related to me that are like family, but I recently lost the last friend I had, and I really am pondering the necessity of having them.

compson
03-26-2008, 08:08 PM
I've got 200 or so "friends" on Facebook, but maybe 3-4 who I could call at 3 am with a problem.

I don't see why more real friends is better than fewer superficial ones.

pensivemuse7
04-05-2008, 12:20 AM
Real friends?

INFP, ENTJ, INTJ, 2 ENTP

For the most part, as long as they are xNTx... no problems

Serket
04-05-2008, 02:32 AM
I have maybe a dozen or so friends who are both real and true. Best friend is ISTJ.

Kuriozidee
04-05-2008, 02:42 AM
I have known people throughout my life that I have thought of as friends...only to find out they weren't...

I have known others who have considered me a friend tho' I did not feel the same...

I have known some that I have really appreciated having around and I have enjoyed their company immensely but to date...

I don't think nary a one of them has ever understood me! :irked:

The one person that I have known forever and who has come closer than any of the rest lives about 300 miles away and he recently got married which, although his wife and I get along ('cuz she's alot like me- go figure), between that and the distance I never stood a chance...
...so sad. *sigh* :rolleyes:

raconteur213
04-05-2008, 03:44 AM
I have a good amount of real friends based on my college years and military career...but I like it better when they're not around.

pallasathena
04-05-2008, 04:50 AM
I was never a person who had a truckload of friends, but the ones I had were the best. Also, my family was top-notch. I don't use the word friend lightly; I make folks earn their way with me. In the last few years, a lady in my office became my friend. We have seen each other at work everyday since 1991, but never spoke to one another. I asked her why she decided to speak to me and she said that she was going to make me open up and speak. I found that we had a lot in common and right now she is going back to school to get her Masters degree.

I still have friends from elementary school and my best friend is someone I met in high school. I'm going through a challenging time right now and my friends have really helped me and encouraged me through it all. Thank God for true friends.

schwartzie
04-05-2008, 07:16 AM
OK this is weird, since I've not thought about it this way, but, a lifetime tally is 10. And 4 animals.
My definition of "true" friends is all about trust, openness and honestly. They are people with whom I push myself (against my nature) to be entirely open, because I *can*, and they let me and, so, anything less is a just a waste/evil. One of the people in this class, is, joyfully, my current *boss.* Bless her soul--she is one of the most socially competent people I know--able and willing to look into people, examine what's there and climb in gracefully. Because of the job and her interest in making her division work, she did what was necessary to get me to trust her. Smart woman. It is not a balanced relationship, because she's my boss...but, I'd do about anything for her. Plus she is a geek. Double points.
And...animals. As a kid I lived in a pretty remote area. Other than my thuggish older brother, the nearest possible playmate was a couple miles away and dull, dull dull. Gakk. My closest companion was a german shepard. Together with a quarter horse, we explored the sparsely-populated wooded township. He was a big, smart, dead loyal; my Domovoi Butler. My first real human friendship developed in middle school.

Most friends have been rationalists, and those rare couple that weren't-like the boss-had some other reason to expend the massive amount of effort needed to get close to me.

suzyk
04-05-2008, 05:54 PM
None.

No one has ever interested me in my short, short life.

Freak
04-07-2008, 05:55 AM
None

Scantilyclad
04-07-2008, 06:00 AM
Now that i'm thinking about it, out of all the people i have ever called "friends", only about 3 of them really deserve the title.

Alida
04-07-2008, 06:14 AM
none.

I don't let people that close. I know a lot of people, and I can form relationships of mutual benefit, and there are people that I work extremely well with, and there are people I hang out with because they'll take any kind of emo shit from me, and there are people I hang out with because i find them attractive, or entertaining.... but I feel no loyalty towards any of them, no need to fight for them if they needed me.

The person who came closest was my ex. INTP.

True Rune
04-07-2008, 02:56 PM
3 around my age, I don't really ask the types, but one seems like ESFJ..

pandora4606
04-07-2008, 04:42 PM
I've got two "real" friends that have been around my entire life. Everyone else seems to drift in and out

PRBori
04-07-2008, 04:58 PM
Hmm....

Real friends, maybe and that's a big maybe, just one. Is very hard for me to call someone a real "friend". I guess to me that person needs to be there for me in good and bad times and honestly those are scarced this days.

Besides the truth is that I don't have a life outside of work. I do have "friends" from work, but that's different from someone I can actually count on when in need. To me a friend is someone I can count on in a time of need.

EsoteriEccentri
04-08-2008, 01:52 AM
None in real life.
A few online.

^^

spittingvenom
04-08-2008, 09:22 AM
Like many INTJs, I didn't find "real friends" until college. I have recently made significant inroads with my siblings as well (two guardians and an artisan). I think, as an INTJ, living in a large college town, brought me in to greater contact with like minded people. If you live in a rural area or suburb, it is difficult to find other rationals, idealists....we tend to congregate in centers of mental activity. If you are young and worried about your lack of friends, go to college, follow your interests, there will be people that understand you.

I have found that my real friends are all idealists and rationals. In my experience, idealists and rationals get along really well. Like most INTJ women, though, my closest friends are men...I have women friends too, but those relationships take a little more work.

I consider "real' friends persons I don't lie to and who would bail me out of jail if I needed it.

The tally.
8 men (3 rationals, 3 idealists, an Artisan and a Guardian)
6 women (3 idealists, 3 guardians)

Cubedout
04-08-2008, 06:23 PM
Yeah, I found some good people in college. It's allowed me to get a little out of my shell and really analyze who I am.

But how am I really lucky? I have an INTJ for a twin brother.

cal
04-13-2008, 05:33 AM
I have friends and close enough acquaintances. But I had 3 REAL enough friends when this thread was created. One died last week - an INTJ. I was his only friend - at least that's what he told me. Now I'm down to 2 ENTJs. However, the friendships I have with them aren't as strong as they once were. As I move on to making some changes in my life, I don't know how close at least one of those friendships will remain.

schwartzie
04-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Cal, I'm very sorry for your loss.

cal
04-14-2008, 09:22 AM
Cal, I'm very sorry for your loss.

Thank you, schwartzie. It's appreciated. I'm going to miss him. It's another reminder to me that I'd best get about taking care of some promises I've made to myself and others.

OddFactor
04-15-2008, 01:17 AM
Haha, I'd say I have three definite ones and another who has expressed interest in having a friendship. We hang out from time to time and have a class together. I'd consider her one but I guess we're not as close to fully regard her as a full-fledged friend. The other is a girl I'm kind of seeing so that's a given and the other two are childhood friends. I recently made a cross country move and left several acquaintances and some who I would've regarded as friends then but not really now. I have several acquaintances here so far but none that I truly care about aside from the aforementioned.

I also have a couple online, one with whom I've hung out with. I'm also trying to figure out how the type of the girl I've been hanging out with lately but I guess I'm not as versed with the types to just know. Though there are ways I could get her to take the test in an inconspicuous manner...

DrEast
04-16-2008, 07:38 AM
I could probably count my REAL friends without taking off my shoes, if you exclude family. But that doesn't mean my other friends aren't real friends.

Xenolar
04-16-2008, 03:39 PM
Real human friends?

Two:

1 female INTJ
1 male ENTJ

Randomnity
04-16-2008, 03:55 PM
Real friends, the ones I can talk to about stuff that's important/emotional for me: 3 (INTJ INFJ ENTP)

Other friends I'm comfortable with and hang out with often: 6 (ESFJ ENFP INTJ IxTJ ISFP ISTP) and maybe a few others

People I'm friendly with and see often but don't make the effort to initiate activities with: probably about 30

Interestingly all of the first group and almost all of the second group are male (I'm not).

Uberfuhrer
04-16-2008, 04:35 PM
None.

I've never gone to parties before unless it was for family. Come to think of it, I've never really hung out with anyone outside of family.

People have long since considered me a freak, so I consider them freaks, too. And let's face it, most people are too shallow and small-minded to be anything more than pleasing to the senses, anyway.

capricornintj
04-27-2008, 09:34 AM
I have three best friends, scattered around the country. Five more fall into the category of confidants. Those eight are the people I consider friends.

The rest of the people I know are just acquaintances, whom would typically be called friends by those who don't know the meaning of the word, or base their self-worth on the number of people they know. For Star Trek fans out there, my perspective is that this army of acquantances is comprised entirely of red shirts--they are all expendable.

Vivid
04-27-2008, 10:02 AM
I feel as though I have no friends. There isn't anyone in real life whom I'm totally open and comfortable with, aside from my parents.

Genuine
04-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Me, myself, and I.
True friends don't exist because of trust issues, anyway.

changos
04-27-2008, 10:30 PM
Out of interest how many REAL friends do you have?

Pretty often I think I have no friends at all. Some times I surprise myself with a friend... and some times with the absence of support from the "so called friends".

tp6626
04-28-2008, 03:57 PM
I would say 8-10 maximum. At least the ones who you can not see for months at a time, and then pick back up exactly where you left off. Also they're the ones who understand you best and tend not to take offence 'by accident'.

There are people who think they're your friends, but don't seem to realise that this is not mutual. Most of these psuedofriends are people who are narrow minded, inately boring, and offering nothing of interest. It especially annoys me when they attempt to influence your decisions whilst knowing virtually nothing about you. Familiarity does indeed breed contempt in some cases. They'll go away.

Does anyone find anything like this at all?

capricornintj
04-28-2008, 06:12 PM
There are people who think they're your friends, but don't seem to realise that this is not mutual. Most of these psuedofriends are people who are narrow minded, inately boring, and offering nothing of interest. It especially annoys me when they attempt to influence your decisions whilst knowing virtually nothing about you. Familiarity does indeed breed contempt in some cases. They'll go away.

Does anyone find anything like this at all?

Yes, all the time. I try to avoid them and eventually most catch on. Some are a bit more dense and need to be told directly. I understand they have feelings (whatever) and that I'm not supposed to crush them, but I really struggle with finding a nice, tactful way of saying "Don't go away mad. Just go away."

True Rune
04-28-2008, 09:41 PM
I guess I have plenty of people I could trust. But only 2-4 I'm close with.

Lainy
11-09-2008, 01:08 PM
The only ones I consider to be my real friends are my sister, my mother and my father.

The others are just colleagues but I call some friends because I sometimes go out with them and allow them into my house. I don't tell them anything which I find important and I am ok if we don't see each other for a long period of time.

Extroverted people are sometimes attracted to me but most of them come to the conclusion that I'm boring and go after others, but some take the time to know me and stick around.

karenk
11-09-2008, 01:16 PM
There are people who think they're your friends, but don't seem to realise that this is not mutual. Most of these psuedofriends are people who are narrow minded, inately boring, and offering nothing of interest. It especially annoys me when they attempt to influence your decisions whilst knowing virtually nothing about you. Familiarity does indeed breed contempt in some cases. They'll go away.

Does anyone find anything like this at all?

ugh! At first I'm ok with it but after a while it's annoying to the point it makes me feel mad. It's so bad. One person talks about every *actually* interesting person we encounter (which has been 2) and goes on and on about how weird they are and how she is scared of the person, etc.. The funny thing is I'm MUCH, MUCH weirder than these people. It's just I put on a cover due to Fe I guess and the feeling I have that I should conform which I hate. They think you value their opinions and you don't even respect them. It's so awful when you work with these people. I experience these people through work.

jadefalcon
11-09-2008, 01:41 PM
I have two that I keep in touch with, sadly more to one than the other, but all three of us have been very busy.

There are people who think they're your friends, but don't seem to realise that this is not mutual. Most of these psuedofriends are people who are narrow minded, inately boring, and offering nothing of interest. It especially annoys me when they attempt to influence your decisions whilst knowing virtually nothing about you. Familiarity does indeed breed contempt in some cases. They'll go away.

Does anyone find anything like this at all?


All the time. For my sanity I hang out with a gaming crew on campus. They gather to play games all day instead of do their work- I pop in a few times a month (two or three times). I thought it was neat to hang out with other people for the first time in years, but realized that after you got to know them a bit more, they were very uninteresting or had their dark secrets that were none of my business.


Gossip ties in very close to manipulation for me- it ruins lives and ruins friendships. There was gossip among this group so I began to become detatched from them, then they thought a game of "truth or dare" was a fun way of killing boredom, when in truth it was a chance for more gossip and rumors.


Now there are folks who still hang out in this crew who don't like each other, and contempt is breeding like a wildfire. What am I doing about it? I try to be a nice guy, but I distance myself even further to the point where I no longer go there because of gossip, people complaining, fighting, etc.


I truly regret not having enough time to start a model building club on campus. It would have been a chance for me to meet people with similar interests and discuss our passions. I have 21 credits to deal with this semester (overload) and the rest of my major isn't looking too good for this club to surface- I have undergraduate research that is very important to me and my future in the defense industry. Ahhh the curses of reality.... *sigh*.


To format my information like Nikita:


Acquaintances: ~300
Good Buddies (immediate and distant): 5
Friends (distant): 3
Best Friends (distant): 1
Lifelong Friends: 1 (same best friend as above)


this does not include family.

Autoptic
11-09-2008, 01:46 PM
None.

I've never gone to parties before unless it was for family. Come to think of it, I've never really hung out with anyone outside of family.

People have long since considered me a freak, so I consider them freaks, too. And let's face it, most people are too shallow and small-minded to be anything more than pleasing to the senses, anyway.

Ditto. Pleasing to the mind doesn't produce a connection either though.

Sinequanon
11-09-2008, 02:05 PM
Excluding family, 3. One is my SO.

hullolife
11-09-2008, 02:07 PM
5

7 if u include my mom and sister :D

Nikita
11-09-2008, 02:14 PM
about 50 acquaintances, 4 pretty good friends, 2 close friends, no best friends...that spot is reserved for a future s.o. - most of my time is spent alone

lambpox
11-09-2008, 02:30 PM
I would say around five?

An INFP (my best friend in the entire world, I suppose!), an INTJ, two INTPs and an ENTP. :)

Marcus
11-09-2008, 02:35 PM
I've had 4 best friends over my life: ESTP (childhood-teenage), ENTJ (teenage), ENTP (high-school/university), ESFP (post-grad). Apparently, all of them are extroverts.

reb
11-09-2008, 04:36 PM
time passes, some friendships die, some grow...

you will not know the true answer to the original question until you have 'real trouble' in your life (jail, nut ward, bankruptcy, house burns down with all personal effects, wife accuses you of being a pederast, whatever).

my experience is that about 85% of the people you 'think' are friends, are not there when these things happen. surprisingly, some of the people who 'are there' were not the ones you were expecting...how pleasant that is. the word 'friend' is a funny thing...if ethics are situational, then certainly, much 'friendship' is as well.

cullenisacreep
11-09-2008, 04:40 PM
Best friend- INTJ
3 other friends from "sisterhood": ESFJ, INFP, ISTP
Trustworthy but not so close friends: ISTJ, ISTP, ESTP
Former Best friend: ESFP

penny lane
11-09-2008, 05:40 PM
I have one "real" friend, myself.

What can I say, one is better than none.

I like your answer

probity
11-09-2008, 07:47 PM
I'm in a really hard spot right now because I strongly believe that friendships are cultivated and nurtured when two people are moving in the same direction and as of recently my direction has changed drastically.

I have only two friends that I've kept and now my life is moving in a completely different direction than theirs and our connections are dwindling so that I'm not really comfortable calling them real friends anymore. We're still attempting friendship and neither of them seems to be feeling a lack of connection but my attentions are turned elsewhere and I'm afraid I might be walking away from them.

Noname128
11-09-2008, 08:00 PM
At this point, I can honestly say I only have one real friend -- and of course I never get to see him much anymore.

Skye
11-10-2008, 02:56 AM
To me, a friend is...
- someone who I want to be around
- someone who I can be myself with
- someone who I enjoy sharing my thoughts with
- someone who I can trust

A friendship must be valued by both AND mutually benefitial.
(Heck, this is starting to sound like some corny birthday card! Sorry about that.)

I have two friends: INFP, INTJ

dogwoodlover
11-10-2008, 07:03 AM
Just out of interest how many of you have how many friends you consider REAL friends.


Three.

Brooke (ENFP): girlfriend and best friend. I love her to death, and I know I could tell her anything.

Kalvin (ISTP): "best" friend since about sophomore / junior year of high school (3-4 years). There's something about hanging out / talking with him; we just get along really well. He's probably one of the most intelligent (though impulsive) and thoughtful guys I know.

Phil (INTJ): roommate and good friend. We seem to just have an unspoken understanding with one another, and we have yet to piss the other one off, after three semesters of living in the same house. He respects me, I respect him. We hang out quite a bit and are constantly laughing and joking around. We get very argumentative / asshole-ish whenever a question / debate / theoretical issue arises.

Acextreme
11-10-2008, 10:02 AM
I have 3 best friends, and they are the only ones that I would categorize as true friends. They accepted me when I am at my worst many years ago, so I know they didn't became my friends because I have things to offer them. And they had stuck with me through some of my crises, of which most so-called friends will abandon. Just last year, most of my acquaintances deserted when I was hospitalized, none showed up other than 2 of my best friends. Good riddance of useless people...

Zzyber
11-10-2008, 10:38 AM
Not including family...

One, but he moved to AZ so does that even count any more? My two best friends are my cousin and my brother. Wow...should I be depressed right now? Maybe my I rages a little more than I thought it did. :uneasy:

ricearoni
11-10-2008, 12:35 PM
I have more real friends than I realized, but only two that I see regularly.

hoeg
11-10-2008, 01:34 PM
Acextreme, I know how that feels about being in hospital and feeling abandoned!

Friends for me? Outside work (colleagues) and family (in reality, my sister), two. I'm too introverted, untrusting and self-sufficient to even make the effort.

sam3992
11-10-2008, 03:19 PM
2 really good ones

Kisai
11-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Real friends? Just my wife. She's my best friend, and she'll always stick with me.

rain
11-10-2008, 03:46 PM
most of my closest friends are ENTPs...we've been through a lot together. if i can group them, i find them irreverent, free-spirited people who are fun to be around, and always speak up for their beliefs. we can tell each other everything, and dissect events and people with precision.

i also have a few INTJ friends- we share the same moodiness, aloofness and are prone to sulky behaviours. we're reserved and oftentimes, people are intimidated by us.

i have in the past been friends with ENFPs- and still close to two of them, although we live very far apart and rarely see each other.

one of my ESTP friends has the best sense of humour. he's also has the kind of dry wit that makes us all see things in perspective. another ESTP friend recently moved to the big apple to pursue his artist residency.

i tend to think with ESTP types that they seem like the perfect complement to INTJs- STs being practical thinkers, while NTs being the visionaries who need STs to implement their plans.

i've met one INFP through the internet, and we've been friends for several years. another INFP i have known since college, although she has recently moved far away, but we still keep in touch when we're both in the same town.

i also have an ISTJ friend who is in a band and he's always been like a member of the family.

i also like ESFPs- but for one reason or another, they seem to get on my nerves very quickly- due to some part of their personalities that seem insensitive and annoying. ESFPs in small doses seem feasible however.

usually i found that in relation to the opposite sex, i have dated men who seem to either be ENFPs and INTPs. ENFPs are open, warm, giving and nurturing types who are always quite supportive while INTPs I find intriguing, mysterious and sometimes hard to read. as a bit of a digression, ENFP men also seem almost "womanish" in the way they are emotionally quite sensitive. since INTJ women can appear masculine personality wise, i suppose it would make sense to be attracted to the opposite type.

Sere
11-10-2008, 03:47 PM
So many 'friends', in other words I talk to a lot of people and end up staying in touch albeit not every hour of the flippin' day. However, I only consider my siblings to be my real friends, because what a true friend is - I've seen it in them. My siblings are:
Sis: ENFP (awesome fun!)
Bro 1: INTJ (chillin' like a villin)
Bro 2: ExTJ (super-cali-fragilistic-expi-ali-docious!)

Other than them, my other real friends are an ENFJ girl I know, an ENFP girl, ENTJ girl, INFJ girl, ISTJ guy and an ESTJ co-worker whose pretty cool.

enWTFp
11-10-2008, 04:18 PM
Two oldest closest friends - both turned out to be ENTJs.

Fanowene
11-11-2008, 07:04 PM
At the moment I would say that number is zero. In the past I have had friends I could tell everything and they would tell me everything too (well, close to everything, anyway). There's a lot of people to hang around with on campus, so whenever I need some human interaction I can get that. But I don't want any of them as close friends.

However, for some reason I would like a boyfriend. I don't know if that makes any sense, though.

(That's not counting my family. But I don't live with them anymore, so I'm distancing myself from them somewhat. I guess I'm growing up...)

aydin4ik
11-12-2008, 02:07 AM
I have 3 friends (left all others coz they didnt fit). Anyway, none of these 3 was into this MBTI stuff. I talked to them about it and SURE they got interested (coz they are MY friends :) ), they took the test and the result is 2 INTJs and 1 ENTJ.

I think it is just a perfect combination for me, coz I love 'em a lot and they are the result of like 15 years of selection.

Do you think I am too much of INTJ or my "I" is too bold? Or is this the way it should be?

jp624
11-12-2008, 08:44 AM
I would consider my sister a good friend although she is extremely self absorbed and only talks of her bf issues. My other good friend is a much older ENTP guy who I consider very wise and fun to be around.

Other than that, I'm not really too attached to anyone. I have pretty much felt my entire life that I could relocate at any time and not miss anyone. I guess I just haven't found the right people yet.

silversun
11-13-2008, 12:08 PM
At the end of high school I had two close girl friends, ISFJ and IXTJ. I still talk to my ISFJ friend in college, though I can't see either of them anymore.
I have a guy friend who is an INFJ, but he graduated ahead of me and I haven't seen him much in the past year, but I still feel like I can be myself around him.
I used to have a REALLY best friend in the early days of high school, she was sooo ISTJ it isn't funny. Overworked herself even when her classes were easier than mine. Was a super perfectionist and awesome artist (everything she drew was so perfect). She would have all these prejudices against things I liked, and would refuse to watch TV shows or movies I said I liked. She loved to control me, and I would act all E and F around her. But then I grew up and realized that just wasn't who I am, and we got in all these fights and I haven't talked to her since. We did send each other a few emails though, and hers was so depressing I felt horrible.. never thought I meant that much to her. I felt it was me who depended on her, and she didn't need me.

Sleeper88
11-13-2008, 07:52 PM
This thread about real friends is interesting and how the enfp from the 2nd page said they had a gazillion friends, and how it differs to most INTJs. Personally I have 3 real friends I am sure and a gf that I think keeps me sane by being so different from myself but still true to herself. 2 INTJs and an ENTJ. The ENTJ I know the longest and seemed to be the only one that remotly understood me during our school time. Our friendship has lasted across continents and time since I moved away at the age of 16. Now we both ended up living in the same city for completely different reasons. funky


oh yeah, my gf is an ISFJ. She drives me nuts and keeps me sane at the same time. She is my achilles tendon.

shion
01-25-2009, 06:03 AM
4 <-- of which 2 are my exes
ISTJ, ISFJ, not sure about the other 2 but they must be introverts.

To me, a real friend:
-gets along very well with me
-is someone I can always trust
-will always be here for me
-knows and accepts the real me
-and vice versa

daydreamer
01-25-2009, 06:34 AM
my husband, of course, and two others, all of whom i suspect are nt's and probably intx's. i tend to connect with nt's, and although my closest bubs are not all j's (i appreciate the p pov) i find it very easy to hang out with j's of any sort because they like to *do* things (whether we are close or not.)

IreOfDesire
01-25-2009, 06:58 AM
I only consider real friend as friend, all others are just known people, and there is probably 3rd category - mostly eX friends (we don`t see each other often, took different paths in life and that makes us distant)

1 INTJ
1 INTP
1 ENTP
1 ESFP - but I`m quite suspicious about him. He never let me down... for now.
1 ISFJ - on the treshold with the 3rd category

HeyZeus
01-25-2009, 07:30 AM
Probably around 7-10 lifelong friends I can say anything to, who somehow know that the fury is merely irreverence intended for amusement. They all tend to be open to my interruptions because of the interesting, uncharted (for us) places the discussions often go. Who needs a bunch of shallow friendships that require maintenance, like the E's you know that have 200 friends on facebook or myspace. Unheard of...absurd.

jerr
01-25-2009, 08:07 AM
I have maybe 3-4 real friends. The types I know: 2xINTJ 1xENTJ

Mathnerdkid
01-25-2009, 08:40 AM
2 INTJ, I consider myself lucky.

probity
01-25-2009, 09:53 AM
I have 3 right now. An INFJ, ENTP, and another who's type I can't figure out.

dalidaisy
01-25-2009, 10:16 AM
I have one REAL friend, an ESFP. Been friends for over 25 years. I have quite a few really close online friends, but they aren't REAL, I guess, they just live in my computer.

ToC
01-25-2009, 10:20 AM
one..ish

Jonathan Brewer
03-01-2009, 11:38 AM
One or two close friends at most. I have probably a dozen casual friends beyond that.

ProgFusionRoman
03-01-2009, 04:09 PM
I don't think I have a close friend besides my husband.

I have to have a reason to have a relationship with someone.


I am the same - only my wife.

If I have free time I want to spend it with her.

idem
03-01-2009, 04:11 PM
Four or five, plus ten or so other friends.

Hasway
03-01-2009, 04:30 PM
Three, I think. Yep, three.
1-IXFX(ISFP,I think. She was being byist last time I gave her a physcological quiz...)
2-ENFP
3-INFP
My mom doesn't like my INFP friend because she thinks she's a hermit. Funny, I'm probably more of a hermit than her. My mom's also the one that told me to change to an extrovert, though, so I can see where she's coming from. She adores my ENFP friend, however.

WaeV
03-01-2009, 04:38 PM
All Friends:
INFP x3
INFJ x3
ESFP x2
ENFP x2
ENTP x1
INTJ x1
4 others not typed
16 total.

Of those 16:
Lifelong Friends:
1 to 3.

Very Good Friends:
12ish, including lifelong friends.

Cesare Borgia
03-01-2009, 06:45 PM
No friends, only family and a select few of their spouses, friends come a dime a dozen and only duck out when the chips are down, fuck friends.

silentaxis
03-01-2009, 09:51 PM
um um um

I shall say four, cuatro, char, chahar! :huh: mmm yea four different languages right there homes.

one i've known for 5 years
two for two years
one for 6 years

being 89% introvert...im not sure how to make new friends, most of the time I'll tag along with a friend somewhere and then I'll meet some of his friends and then ill get to know some of his friends and then they become my friends and then we become good friends until the process repeats...

Charly
03-01-2009, 10:09 PM
4 best friends.

1 x ENTJ
1 x INTP
1 x ESFP
1 x INTJ

Me and the INTJ have had some extended periods of disagreement because I was right and he refused to acknowledge it.

qwerty123
03-01-2009, 10:15 PM
These friends that you speak of, would we know it if we had one?

Just kidding..

A few

Maedhi
03-01-2009, 11:05 PM
5, all of them are extroverts, 1 male and 4 female. 1 of them is from school, the rest are from work. Scattered all over the world, I very rarely meet them in person.

Deliberator
03-01-2009, 11:15 PM
If I don't count family, just one.

NovemberRain
03-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Good question... I do have A LOT of friends...
But REAL friends... I'm not so sure. Maybe none?
All of them are of equal status to me (whether 'real' or not).
:D

wendytwtee
03-01-2009, 11:57 PM
One who's down under and far away from me, my best friend in fact. ENTJ

Second, must be some FS combination, but she's a great pal and we make it work

Tough Love
03-02-2009, 03:49 AM
Three gorgeous souls who i love beyond measure.

ranwayslo
03-02-2009, 05:18 AM
Two very close friends. 1. ENTP 2. ESTJ

MaleVolentworld
03-02-2009, 08:35 AM
Aristotle said that a friend is another self. I have never found my other self, it must be lost in a forest in some dark place like the Ukraine, waiting for the Nazis to retreat.

smashy
03-02-2009, 09:25 AM
I have 4 close friends, 3 are INTJ (one is my fiance) and one is INFJ.

WaeV
03-02-2009, 09:30 AM
Isn't it funny that of all the S friends listed, the vast majority are ESFP?

Doppelbock
03-02-2009, 09:53 AM
Almost all of my friends are online. I've met two of them in real life after knowing them online for ~5 years or so -- went to a Rush concert in Cincinnati with one of them. I do consider them "real" friends. (Similarly, I have some "real" enemies that I only know online.)

Gallija
03-02-2009, 10:09 AM
Only one really close friend - my husband. Funny thing - we decided to devorse but still he is my best friend. When we meet we talk frankly about things that trouble us (about his new girlfriend, as an example)...
Apart my husbund, 2 friends not that close ... :)

Hwangdda
03-02-2009, 10:41 AM
Four. Their types are IxFJ, ENTP, ENFJ, and ESFx. It makes sense that they're mostly E's as they're able to draw me out of my shell with their incessant pestering.

thiagofralves
03-02-2009, 11:32 AM
I have 3 friends which I let know the most I would like anyone to know about me and whom I really trust. 2 of them are introverts and one of them is an extrovert. I also can count other close friends, but they are not as close as these 3.

llBradll
03-02-2009, 03:26 PM
I would say one good friend who is gone away for school.

Other than that... well on the bright side I enjoy my company lol

I have a decent amount of average friends, but they aren't what I would really classify as a good friend. Life is a little lonely for me but its not too bad.

I'm 19 right now living in a small town and seeing the same people over and over. A rare few of them interest me, and out of those, most aren't near my age and/or I don't see them enough. I'm looking at going to school in a city near where I live partly to learn, and partly to see new people and get out of this cycle. At the moment, I'm trying to pursue different things that are more achievable while I figure out what I want, while hoping that the friends will find me.

ClydeB
03-02-2009, 03:39 PM
I'd have to say zero at this point in my life. Lots of acquaintances. Plus people I work with. Not the same I believe.

endless
03-02-2009, 03:51 PM
I don't know how to measure them.

Maybe five or six at the moment.

2x ENFJ, ESFJ, INTP

Another E I haven't figured out.


Also an ENTJ the most important.

dogwoodlover
03-02-2009, 05:34 PM
Four: ISTJ, ISTP, ENTP, ENFP.

punkyplatypus
03-03-2009, 11:57 AM
Other than family members, about 3. Either they moved or I moved, so I never really see any of them anymore, but they stay in touch with myspace/facebook/phone calls. There's always plans to meet up again, but circumstances usually keep that from happening. However, it's almost like we haven't been away from each other when plans are followed through with. It's that kind of seemingly unchanging bond (probably due to the online communication) which is why I consider them friends.

Their types (1st was tested; the other two are guesses):

ENFJ, ENFJ, ExTP

callmemigs
03-20-2009, 05:21 PM
Let me try to type them:]
Elementary and Highschool:
INFP
2 INTP
INFJ
ISTP (I'm not really close to him but we get along pretty well)
2 ENTJ
ENFP
ENFJ
ESFJ (I don't see her often but she is still great to be around)

College:
ISTP (never see her often)
ENTJ (never see her often, either)
An E that I cannot type (she's a friend of the ENTJ above^^, we're not really close but she's nice)
ISFP (Not really close to her)
two other E's I cannot type (Not really close to them either, they're both guys)
INTJ (A seatmate but not really close to her either)

I don't consider all of the above as best friends. Although they're just close friends, they're all equally important to me.

My twin sister is an ENTP. I consider her my best friend.
My mom is also an INTJ. She's more like a friend than a mother to me.

Airfire
03-20-2009, 05:48 PM
REAL friends? Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Nil... Always been that way and it's how I like it. I'm shocked and quite surprised that more INTJs aren't this way...

intellael
03-20-2009, 06:40 PM
I don't have a best or a psychologically close friend. There are three I consider friends. (All MBTI tested)

ENTJ
ENFJ
ESFJ

The ENTJ and I get along best. The later two tap my reserves. So, we go prolonged periods without contact. Usually, I am into my own projects and go solo. On average, I may see each of them about once every quarter of a year.

Mashy
03-20-2009, 07:09 PM
Closest friends:

INFP male. I don't know, but there's something gorgeous about him, but I say this in a non-romantic way.

ISTP female. She pisses the fuck out of me, but I'd be hopeless without her.

xSFP female. Often blurts out offensive things before stopping midway in embarrassment.

ESTP female. Crazy.

ESTJ female. She's like a budding capitalist. Concerned very much with money. We're not so close anymore, because I've expressed disdain in her greed...

So, I don't have many "real" friends. I'm not even sure if I can call them friends...

gestalt
03-20-2009, 07:14 PM
Wots a fiend?

2obvious
03-20-2009, 07:20 PM
There's family.

There are long distance friends I see maybe once every other year.

...

I really wish I had friends, but all I do for fun is think. Last friend I had kept commenting on how odd it was that we never "did" anything. It makes me self-conscious.

rain
03-20-2009, 07:27 PM
I have:

Females:
5 ENTJ (although 1 is getting married, and she disappeared off the face of the earth and spends all her time with her hubby to be)
1 ENTP (known her for 10 years, and I told her that if she were male, I would've married her! :)

Male:
1 ENTJ (he and I are almost like twins)
2 ENTP (I know I could trust these guys with my life- through good/bad/ugly)
1 ENFP/INFP (cool guy-I help him with his relationship problems and vice versa)
1 INFP (super talented creative guy; we click really well because he's very aesthetic and I fuel his business strategy)
1 INTJ/ISTP (my business partner- we're very similar, but have opposite skill sets)
1 INTP (my ex- who is now a good friend. he's so dear to me, and I consider him like family)

Mentors: (note: my mentors haven't been tested in MBTI)
1 ISTJ (could also be ENTJ or ESTJ) He's very precise and has a blunt sense of humor like I do. He's been a really great father figure and I am totally indebted to him.
1 ENFJ (could also be ENFP) He's part mentor/ part healer. He really cares about people and make sure everyone in his circle succeeds and tends to be philanthropic.
1 INTJ He was really the first one to sit me down and give me an honest assessment about what I was doing wrong- not in a mean way, but in a kind, critical way. I've learned lots from him.

TravelnTrain
03-21-2009, 09:37 PM
my brother is also an INTJ so we can count on each other; one NF close friend who's a hoot...ditched all the others that I thought were "true" friends who really weren't..in the market for 1 or 2 INTJ's as friends who have learned how to be emotionally vulnerable - a hard one for us but achievable...

Plane Stress
03-21-2009, 09:46 PM
I have no really really close friends, who I can be completely myself and comfortable around. I have one good friend at college who is an INTP. I have four other people who I would call good friends in my life: 2 INFPs, one ENFP, and one INFJ.

Synamon
03-21-2009, 09:48 PM
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Thank you.

Jinglish
03-21-2009, 11:06 PM
I have a few: INTP, INFJ, 2 ENFJ's, INFP, ISTJ, and ESFJ.

MassHysteria
07-21-2009, 01:01 AM
We've got threads for Mommies and Daddies and Grandmas and Sissies, so how about Besties?

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I'm very sleepy as I'm writing this, so please excuse any mistakes or run-on sentences.

I don't really have a single person I can pin down and say "This is my BEST friend," but I do have a handful of amazing people in my inner circle for whom I'm very thankful.

My oldest and dearest friend is, I think, an INFP. She has been there for me through everything, and I know for a fact I can always count on her. I can think of two times in the past 18 months alone I have called her up at 2:00 in the morning and said "I'm having an existential crisis. Can you talk me down?" She can be moody and it's not always easy to pin her down for get-togethers, but just this weekend I drove three hours north to spend five hours celebrating her birthday, then driving three hours back south so I could get four hours of sleep before I had to be up for work. I love this woman.

My newest best friend is an XSFJ. We met two years ago and while she initially didn't like me (she thought I was an intimidating Kraut with no sense of humor) she eventually came to believe I was pretty much the bee's knees. Aaaaand then there was some drama about a year ago and she quickly got over that. Now we love and respect each other but have come to understand that we can't spend too much time in the same room. She spends a lot of time saying "Wait, I'm confused," so the stories I want to tell in less than one minute are often stretched out as details are penciled in. I can make her laugh, and I love her laugh. I'm happy to have her in my life.

Believe it or not, I think my very best friend at the moment is an ENFJ. Sure, she's shallow and superficial and kind of irresponsible and whiny, but she puts up with MY sh*t, so that's gotta be worth something. I spend a lot of time watching her talk to people and wondering how she does it. I can't take her anywhere. She also happens to be gorgeous, so anywhere we go she's got men giving her the eye and buying her drinks. Lately she's taken to driving drunk, which infuriates me, but she's sure nothing will happen. I'm not so optimistic.

And then we've got this guy I met when I first moved down here. He's typed as an EXFP, and all I gotta say is "There's one in every crowd." To say that he's the life of the party would imply that there's a party at all before he gets there. Our chemistry is somehow magical. There's nothing sexual at all. He thinks I'm awesome and I think he's terrific. He's the Costello to my Abbot, the Hardy to my Laurel, the Belushi to my Aykroyd, etc. I can go for weeks at a time without so much as making eye contact with another human being, but when I go out with this guy, suddenly that's me at the doorway at three in the morning inviting people in for one more beer. That's me following him around to make sure he doesn't get hurt, lose anything, pick any fights, ingest anything poisonous, get stuck in anything, and so on. And in those quieter moments when we have our one-on-one discussions, I see a very sharp, very warm, very thoughtful and extremely talented person. Is there such thing as a "Bromance" between a man and a woman? Hmmmm...

Therion
07-21-2009, 06:52 AM
I coaxed my two best friends into getting tested. I am curious to see what MBTI everyone else's friends are.

My best friend is an INFP and my other close buddy is an ISTJ.
I wasn't really surprised at their results... I always knew they were weirdos.. ;)
Glad I'm INTJ.. kekeke.

Antagonist
07-21-2009, 08:44 AM
My best friend is an ENFJ.

I had an idea that he was ENF, but I couldn't place the last letter. Since we were kids, he was always great with people and I've always been more reserved. We can bullshit for hours about the most random, abstract things, but I could never place whether his N was Ni or Ne until he took the test.

MadmanMSU
07-21-2009, 09:26 AM
Most of my friends are ENFs or ENTs. There's one ESTJ and one INTJ. My significant other is an ESFJ, so technically she's my "best friend", although "friend" doesn't really cover it.

Wired
07-21-2009, 02:01 PM
My husband is the person closest to me. He's ISTJ. I could have determined that before testing. It was pretty obvious.

Most of my friends seem to be ISTx. I don't know how that keeps happening. We have really interesting conversations.

Kriega von Wulf
07-21-2009, 02:09 PM
My best friend is my significant other, technically. He is an ESTP.

It is indeed a fact that opposites attract.

Chronos
07-21-2009, 02:20 PM
I don't have one single 'best friend', but some of my best and closest friends are INTJs, INTPs, INFPs, ENFPs, and ENTPs.

wittykitty
07-21-2009, 02:24 PM
ISFJ and an ISFP. I attract INFJs too.

Cthulhu
07-21-2009, 02:27 PM
I have three people who are very close to me. Two are INTJs and one is an INFJ.

ADullEssence
07-21-2009, 02:40 PM
Only got 3 do the MBTI. Main one being an ENFP, other two being INTJs. I wasn't surprised to see their results except for the fact INTJs are supposed to be rare.

I suspect others to be ENTP, ESFP and ENFJ.

I've yet to meet a single ENTJ sadly.

Silhouette
07-21-2009, 03:24 PM
My friend got ENTJ, but she seems more like an ENFJ to me.

Latro
07-21-2009, 03:36 PM
ENTP or INTP. One of my two close friends is a definite INTP, the other is somewhat of an xNTx but tested as ENTP.

Shorgenfunkel
07-21-2009, 03:41 PM
I have three best friends. One's XNFJ, one's ISTJ, and one's INTP.

curiousgeorge01
07-21-2009, 04:15 PM
My best friend is an ENFP, he's fun to hang out with but everyone think he's flaky as hell. I don't really blame them for thinking so. Apparently when we hang out, his friends call me the smart one! LOL!

AaronSheffield
07-21-2009, 04:27 PM
My current best friend is another INTJ. I wonder what type my old high school buddy was though.

PHS Philip
07-21-2009, 04:53 PM
ENFP. So, so, so ENFP, haha. Not in a bad way usually, but...well, you know :p

Then another who's almost definitely an INTJ (but a moderate one).

The others (really good friends, but not closest), harder to say. One I'd hazard INFJ or INFP (yes, I know they're very different types, but this particular individual's hard to type). Another is...hm. Moderate E, definitely N, and I'm split 65/35 on J/P (meaning I'd lean toward J). No idea on T/F though.

Hm, actually, on further reflection. That last one's a moderate ENTP, now that I think about what female ENTPs tend to be like from what I've seen.

Therion
07-21-2009, 05:12 PM
At some point we're gonna start to see some correlation of data. Just wait...

I'm seeing a lot of ENFPs.

athenian200
07-21-2009, 05:22 PM
My best friends tend to be INTJs, ENTPs, ISFPs, and other INFJs. I have some INTP, ENFP, INFP, and ENTJ friends as well, but they're not BEST friends.

Kalarchis
07-21-2009, 06:23 PM
INTP. We're almost the same person...except he's interested in possibilities and I'm interested in closure. In his words "You're concerned about the answer, while I'm more interested in the question."

Consequently, I have a lot of self-confidence and little self-doubt, and he is the exact opposite.

Latro
07-21-2009, 06:33 PM
INTP. We're almost the same person...except he's interested in possibilities and I'm interested in closure. In his words "You're concerned about the answer, while I'm more interested in the question."

Consequently, I have a lot of self-confidence and little self-doubt, and he is the exact opposite.
I get a good bit of this with my INTP friend, not so much with my ENTP-ish friend. This and my general pragmatism winds up being most of my "J"; for the most part beyond that I'd say that I am P.

Kalarchis
07-21-2009, 07:10 PM
I get a good bit of this with my INTP friend, not so much with my ENTP-ish friend. This and my general pragmatism winds up being most of my "J"; for the most part beyond that I'd say that I am P.

What's your percent? Last time I took the test, I ran 89% J :p It's a very definite part of my person. I'll bet that my buddy ranked pretty high on P as well. It's a very definite part of his person.

It's what makes us such perfect comrades. Our personalities are nearly exactly the same, but our auxiliary functions are both strong and complete opposites. We argue all the time (disagree about nearly everything. If I make a point, he must make a point to disagree.) But we go together like peanut butter and jelly. It's great.

Latro
07-21-2009, 07:14 PM
What's your percent? Last time I took the test, I ran 89% J :p It's a very definite part of my person. I'll bet that my buddy ranked pretty high on P as well. It's a very definite part of his person.

It's what makes us such perfect comrades. Our personalities are nearly exactly the same, but our auxiliary functions are both strong and complete opposites. We argue all the time (disagree about nearly everything. If I make a point, he must make a point to disagree.) But we go together like peanut butter and jelly. It's great.
I've gotten P and J on different tests or even on the same test on different days. I can't remember a specific percentage from a single test.

DanteFalling
07-21-2009, 07:19 PM
INTP, ENTP, and INTJ.

A close second place tie: ENFJ and ENFP.

ranwayslo
07-22-2009, 12:57 AM
ENTP (married to an INFP <---- she thinks I am really a sweetheart...deep...very deep inside) and an ISTJ (Dating an ESFP <---- she thinks I am the strangest person in the world but loves me despite it).

Aristocrat Porn
07-22-2009, 01:13 AM
Two (extreme) ESTJs

The Fury
07-22-2009, 01:20 AM
My closest friend is an INTP. Though I can't be positive since he thinks all personality tests are nonsense and so won't take the MBTI. He has quite low self-confidence and often I have to push him to voice his own thoughts.

Obsidean
07-22-2009, 01:57 AM
Got two
INTJ
ESFJ

Rudy
07-22-2009, 06:36 AM
My three best friends are INTJ, INTP and ENTP. If only I was ENTJ, we could round out the rationals...

Nemesis
07-22-2009, 06:48 AM
ESTP.

ProfMike42
07-22-2009, 06:55 AM
My best friends are an ENTJ and an ENFP. The ENTJ naturally has strong opinions about the outside world and how it should work, and the Extroversion to apply it. As a result I often have to avoid, desperately sometimes, assisting her on one of her Crusades. During election season we maintain a list of political issues that we do not talk about.:) The ENFP is great except for the fact that he starts a project that I find interesting and then decides to do something else. This usually leaves me feeling somewhat chaotic, but we never run out of things to do.

ElstonGunn
07-22-2009, 06:57 AM
Mine is pretty solidly an INFJ. My other best friend used to test as an ISTJ, but now he thinks he's an ENFP or something (I don't think I really believe that, though).

Tough Love
07-22-2009, 07:01 AM
My fiance: INTJ
Best female friend: ISFJ