One of my roommates isn't any of the 16 types.

[Triple E]

...and I think he's a serial killer.

Here's the story. This semester we had one of our roommates leave the University (he transfered out for a better one), so now it's me, a friend of mine and his girlfriend. With an open spot, we HAD to let someone new move in, we got this guy named Karl who seemed fairly normal. Fast-forward a couple months and I'm fairly confident this guy is a serial killer with a seventeeth personality.

Weird shit he does that doesn't fit any of the 16 types (maybe because he's insane?)

- He is an introverted extrovert who needs to be in a social situation with others SO he can get energized by himself. This probably makes no sense so let me elaborate.

He isn't very social and at first glance I assumed he was an introvert. However what he does is he goes to social situations where there's lots of people and sits in a corner just watching everyone. He told me that he needs others around him but he only likes to watch them and not participate - that is what gets him energized. :suspicious:

He doesn't think or feel. He has no emotions for anything. He doesn't laugh, doesn't get mad, sad, happy, doesn't get embarrassed etc. But he isn't a thinker either. He says he dislikes intellectuals and finds thinking to be pointless. He says he'd rather just watch people and things or sleep.

He doesn't really do anything but watch people and freak the rest of us out to the point we lock our room doors at night. This is where the serial killer thing comes in.

Frightening things he does:

- He just enters a room sometimes and stands behind the sofa watching us. He doesn't say anything. When we ask him to sit down he says "no thanks" and then leaves.

- When we went for a drive to the video store he sat in the backseat. It was just me and him and he sat in the back seat. Like a Taxi.

- He always goes to bed when I do.

- I was walking past my female roommates room when I saw him just standing behind her. She was on her laptop writing a paper and I asked "what are you guys doing?" and she jumped when she turned around. The lunatic said "chilling" and just walked out of the room. She told me that she didn't even know he was there.

- I told him to take the MBTI Personality Test and every second question he'd say "I'm neither of these."

What the fuck is this guy?

[meanlittlechimp]

Probably an ISTJ with an outside chance of ISTP. Believe me, he does get happy or sad, he just doesn't express it.


My rationale:

Extroverts tend to be more expressive (you tend to be aware of what their feeling), even the ones that are shy and reclusive.

ISFPs are also pretty expressive. They give off a pretty warm vibe, even when they're being shy. He's definitely and I and a T. I'm leaning more towards S more than N (since that is more common) and you haven't given me enough indication. N's can also say intellectuals piss them off too, but I wouldn't rule it out completely.

P's also tend to be more expressive than Js and be more laid back. Something about your description screams J to me. Does he exhibit more J or P behaviors - but something about your description reminds me of an ISTJ more than an ISTP.

Introverts like to go out too and will often want to go to parties, so I wouldn't think he's an extrovert because of that. Especially single introverts in college.

[Mafiaangel180]

I seriously started to laugh out loud when you said about the riding in the back seat like a taxi. The first thought that came to mind was ISTJ.

I met this one ISTJ guy, and he can come off as creepy. He didn't go out much, but when he and I did go to dinner or whatever, he just watched me.





Mafiaangel180 added to this post, 1 minutes and 23 seconds later...

Oooh also, I would like to add that when the ISTJ guy and I went out to a concert....he refused to stand near me. He always stood like 4 feet away and behind me. Like he just wanted to observe.

[INTJoe]

I was walking past my female roommates room when I saw him just standing behind her. She was on her laptop writing a paper and I asked "what are you guys doing?" and she jumped when she turned around. The lunatic said "chilling, isn't it?" to Sarah, as he put on a tragedy mask and pulled a noose out and began circumventing her lovely neck while monotone Stanley Kubrick-esque sounds began playing from nowhere. and just walked out of the room. She told me that she didn't even know he was there.

- I told him to take the MBTI Personality Test and every second question he'd say "I'm neither of these."


He sounds like an ISTP. ISTPs are odd folks. I don't have a problem with them. In fact, a bunch of my buddies and me graduated with an ISTP guy and I'm the only one he responds to. If anyone emails him or calls him, he doesn't answer. Except for me. I think it's because I've always seen past his oddness and treat him with respect, ever since College.

It's like when our group of introverts goes out to drink on the weekend, none of us has a problem conversing because we're all I's and it's all relative, and we're drinking. But even the ISTP, when he comes out (which is determined by no discernible rhyme or reason), just sits there. All night. Nary a word. He laughes and smiles a lot at the goofy stuff we say or do, but he just observes non-stop. He only talks if we ask him specific questions.

Also, is seems like S's are always the ones who take the MBTI test and say "I'm both of these." It's like "No you aren't. Use your head." The N's seem to not have difficulty taking the MBTI test.

[Pinkie]

He sounds... depressed... to me! When I get one of my bouts of depression, I find that I hate being alone and have to be near people, but that I don't want the people I'm near to actually interact with or pay any attention to me at all. ISTP sounds right to me, too. They are quite weird, I've found.

[Minerva]

Maybe ISFP. Do you know what his major is? Does he have any hobbies besides watching people?

[thod]

The desire to be around people indicates to me he is an E. He is however damaged beyond the descriptions of MBTI. His silence and observation is due to an internal insecurity. The difficult part will be in gaining his trust. After that its about bringing him out of his shell.

[Minerva]

He sounds... depressed... to me! When I get one of my bouts of depression, I find that I hate being alone and have to be near people, but that I don't want the people I'm near to actually interact with or pay any attention to me at all. ISTP sounds right to me, too. They are quite weird, I've found.

Is it that you don't want the people closest to you to worry about you? Is that why you stay away from them?

When I am under extreme stress, my shadow side ENTP comes out, and I don't want to be around my family or my closest friends either. I don't want to be worried over.

[Deadgod]

A sense of loneliness in a crowd defines Introversion.
A Thinking person does not mean an intellectual academia-washed smart-ass neither. ISTP seems the ideal type for this person. He should consider visual arts possibly sculpting. But him in a room of naked people? Hmm...I'd be careful around him lol.

[sonofone]

I would do some of this stuff because its fun to creep people out, but I wouldn't take it that far. I only do it to people I know and get it... kind of, or people I don't like and just want to F*ck with. If I was living with people I didn't know very well, I would probably reserve this behavior for when they got to know me. I also would stop when the joke got old because after awhile it's just creepy (even to me).

[Asylum]

Sounds like a sensing type to me.

"...However, the auxiliary function for ISTJs is Thinking, which means that ISTJs focus on and gather impersonal facts, which they analyze." (Book: Do What You Are)

Seems like ISTJ sounds the closest.

[Motor Jax]

i met my first ISTP acquaintance the other day

he was pretty cool

very reserved

and hardly cracked a smile

but cool

he turned out to be an amicable conversation

of course, i had to ask the questions



oh, and he drank wine instead of beer like the rest of us

[punkyplatypus]

he might be an intj. just because we have the same personality doesn't mean we're not all the same. an intj from one household may have different customs than another. he does sound sort of like the creepy automaton that the intj profiles all seem to explain.
anyway, here's my reasoning:

"i" because he doesn't really join the socializing. he watches it like a tv show. i imagine an extravert's head would explode if they sat through a conversation without acting out physically or verbally. just standing there, watching and listening sounds like an introvert to me.

"n"; from my understanding, sensors are more pragmatic, fun loving, realistic, and interactive. this guy doesn't sound like the kind of person who'd "join the fun" or live for the moment. not really the kind of guy that would indulge his senses. plus the way he's acting isn't what i 'd call realistic. intuitives are more imaginative, speculative, original, and live for the future rather than the present. this seems to fit him better.

"t" because he's emotionless. a feeler would be more about relationships and feelings. that doesn't sound like him. he sounds like he's analyzing you and your friends and thinking about it. he doesn't even sit down to relax.

"j" because his "judging" comment on thinkers as a whole and his unchanging actions. someone with a "p" would probably be more spontaneous and more tolerant of people like thinkers.


i think he's probably trying to out think you, a few steps ahead. i wouldn't be surprised if he knew what the myers-briggs test was. he might pretend he can't decide on answers because if he did then you'd know his personality and him better. he probably suffers from some sort of paranoia, and that's why he analyzes you and your roommates. that's why he doesn't sleep until you do. that's why he sits behind you in the car.
try asking him about his childhood and growing up. if he's comfortable enough to open up you might be able to get him to reveal something explaining his actions. who knows, maybe he'll freak out and kill you all for bringing up bad memories.

if i were in your position, i'd kick him out and get a new roommate. he sounds too creepy. if someone tried to ride in the backseat while i drove with an empty front seat, i'd kick them out unless they were feeling sick and need to lay down or something. i wouldn't even want them riding in the front seat with me after that. then again maybe i've seen too many mafia and horror movies.

[Jenny Penny]

Sounds like I and T, but it is pretty much impossible to tell on the other two. I would lean towards N, but, again, too hard to know without observing him...

[Motor Jax]

its easier to tell if you can observe

there is one person i work close to, and i was watching him

and i came to realize that he seems more like ISFJ

[Darkmist]

My brother-in-law is an ISTP and this sounds exactly like him. He has to be out with people, the more the better and loves bars. He goes every day at the same time and drinks the same beer and buys rounds for his friends. Who gather around him and talk while he sits mute, sometimes chuckling at what they say. Ask him a question and he responds in short answers and then returns to his TV/people watching. Yet he is aware of all that goes on around him, especially what women are up to. (Or rather, how they look, how much cleavage is showing and so on.)

BTW he is married and he buys revealing summer tops for women he wants to see more breasts from. Creepy he could seem. But I know him well.

I find it difficult to talk to him when it's just the two of us together. He is a two word wall that for some reason, I'm more comfortable not leaping over. So we have awkward silence and either one of us leaves the room or we breathe sighs of relief when someone walks in. No mental connection whatsoever. At least on my part. I'm not in his mind so I can't speak for him.

[Cubedout]

Truth be told, I have been this way sometimes. Like thod says, it's likely that he's just really unsure about other people for now. Maybe he's not aware that not everyone has to be extraverted?