INTJs and their shadow type

[Jgib5328]

A recent post has gotten me interested in shadow types. I've been reading a little bit about them and am having some difficulty on how it pertains to us. I understand that they are unconscious or barely conscious functions, but what does that mean to us. There is the opposing role, which comes out in argumentation, the critical parent role, which can demoralize or immobalize people through it's negativity, and we can also feel demoralized when other people use this function, the deceiving role, which fools us into thinking something is important when it's not, and our devilish role, which is destructive and how we harm ourselves.

Well the INTJs 8 processes are:

Ni Te Fi Se / Ne Ti Fe Si

Which would make our type ENTP. If that is true, then what does that mean in our relation to the ENTP. I was actually arguing with an ENTP last night, so I guess he was arguing through his Ni and I was arguing through me Ne, which for each person are undeveloped, so we ended up not coming to an answer.

I also read that Jung considered these shadow functions evil or bad, which seemed interesting.

Well anyways, what can you tell me about shadow types?

[Blacklustre King]

Personally I've never found my Shadow to be a negative presence. I've turned on at least one of Jung's views and this is his definition of the shadow. But all of that can wait for later.

[Solaris]

I've come to consider my shadow type the type I am most like when I am in my most negative place. It's sort of like a coping personality, but unhealthy. It's unhealthy because it's unnatural to you, not because it's unnatural to be that type. For me, my shadow is INTP. I become reclusive, write a lot, think a lot, and accomplish nothing. Now, I know there are productive INTPs out there. However, since it's my shadow personality, it's the unhealthy version of an INTP that manifests itself in me during those highly-intense times of stress (I mean the kind of stress that causes a person to lose 10 pounds in a month or less).

I'm no longer sure if this view of shadow type fits with any of the basic philosphies, but it's the one I've adopted.

[malefide]

I don't really think my theoretical shadow type is the type that actually manifests itself during my most negative times. That would probably be ISTP or possible ISFP, the latter of which is close to my shadow type, but I always withdraw even more than usual when I am in a negative state of mind.

[Jgib5328]

I don't really think my theoretical shadow type is the type that actually manifests itself during my most negative times. That would probably be ISTP or possible ISFP, the latter of which is close to my shadow type, but I always withdraw even more than usual when I am in a negative state of mind.

INTJ shadow type is the ESFP, but for some reason our shadow functions are the same as an ENTP.

[malefide]

INTJ shadow type is the ESFP, but for some reason our shadow functions are the same as an ENTP.

So why is that exactly? I know that the order of our functions are the opposition of an ENTP, but why is the order as such instead of aligning with the shadow functions of an ESFP?

[Jgib5328]

So why is that exactly? I know that the order of our functions are the opposition of an ENTP, but why is the order as such instead of aligning with the shadow functions of an ESFP?

That's what I'd honestly like to know. I guess our shadow type is just the opposing preferences and doesn't focus on the functions. I read somewhere that our unconscious is the direct opposite of our type, so our unconscious mind is an ESFP, while we are INTJs and vise versa.