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Geek007
03-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Do you have any experiences that might qualify as "ego diffusion"?

I have read that this particular phenomena might be more common in INTJs than in other types. From your experience, do you think there is some truth in this?

Jgib5328
03-23-2008, 09:57 PM
Do you have any experiences that might qualify as "ego diffusion"?

I have read that this particular phenomena might be more common in INTJs than in other types. From your experience, do you think there some truth in this?

What does Ego Diffusion mean?

TheLastMohican
03-23-2008, 10:30 PM
What does Ego Diffusion mean?

I Googled it, and I couldn't find any explanations. :huh:

Geek007
03-24-2008, 05:48 AM
Here is the google search:

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"A stable identity is deemed to be optimal for psychological health; failure to achieve ego identity results in ego diffusion, a failure in optimal psychological development."





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From: "Encyclopedia of Religion
and Society"

vaguely dissatisfied
03-24-2008, 06:39 AM
I am definately experiencing 'ego diffusion' right now. A couple of years ago I had an epiphany about how I was thinking and living that left me completely lost and unsure of who I was. I am just now finding my way back to who I am and what I need and want.

Agile
03-24-2008, 07:04 AM
I'd say this is something I often struggle with. It's a 'battle' of deciding 'what I should do' vs 'what I want to do.'

...the new generations increasingly show the stigmata of identity failure and breakdown, plus attempts at remedy which lead to further social and personal pathology. Identity failure increasingly takes the negative form that Erikson characterized as "Ego Diffusion" - the syndrome that appears when youthful candidates for identity refuse the essential jump. Convinced that critical decisions will limit their options, they will not make the decisive choices - to include and to exclude - that are essential to identity formation. By refusing to choose, they can hold on to the illusion that they are all-including, capable of being anything and everything. Many become existential dilettantes - consumers of all possible life - styles, no matter how mutually exclusive these may be.
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pinkroger
03-24-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm definitely not suffering from this. I have a very well defined sense of identity, and my every day thinking reinforces this. Most people like us are very decisive, and so, we are not too susceptible to this (just pondering, I'm certainly not even a novice in this stuff).

malefide
03-24-2008, 06:51 PM
I have never experienced ego diffusion. I have always had a very sure sense of my identity and my self in general. I think my self-awareness as well as my decisiveness may help with this.

Geek007
03-24-2008, 11:06 PM
I am definately experiencing 'ego diffusion' right now. A couple of years ago I had an epiphany about how I was thinking and living that left me completely lost and unsure of who I was. I am just now finding my way back to who I am and what I need and want.

Hi VD, has this experince persisted for a long time? How are you dealing with it?





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I'd say this is something I often struggle with. It's a 'battle' of deciding 'what I should do' vs 'what I want to do.'

Do you feel oblidged to do certain things because of social norms/demands from others, or is it a need to do the right thing, to be just, etc?

zibber
03-24-2008, 11:51 PM
I definitely recognize what is described in this thread, although I'm finding it extremely hard to define. It's a sense of never really being able to form a strong opinion about anything, perhaps as a result of being so unbiased in my thinking and seeing some charm in everything.

This affects me mainly in my academic life, as I'm utterly unable to choose one particular subject to specialize in. In high school, it was easy, as I just chose all the courses that were placed highest on every list (physics, chemistry, mathematics, latin, etc). When faced with a choice after high school, I went for the most broad package of exact sciences, but eventually quit altogether out of a sort of feeling that the appeal had ended (temporarily). I then went on to make a drastic switch to Japanese language and culture, which was impulsive and didn't last either. For the past 2.5 years I've been studying art history with some courses in philosophy, and once again it seems utterly impossible to specialize. Being 24, it's getting slightly unnerving. When thinking about the future, I now have a vague scenario in my head where I'll do some not-too-challenging job to pay the bills, and basically keep exploring..

(Lack of motivation is a big factor too, I should say, fueled/fed by my bad marijuana habit.)

vaguely dissatisfied
03-25-2008, 06:02 AM
Hi VD, has this experince persisted for a long time? How are you dealing with it?





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Do you feel oblidged to do certain things because of social norms/demands from others, or is it a need to do the right thing, to be just, etc?
It's been a couple of years. I've tried a number of things in a desperate attempt to get back to where I have always been. Most of these thing were useless. I have been depressed off and on since that time. But, I think now, finally, I see a light at the end of the tunnel. I have been examining who I am and what I want for my life very closely. I have looked at the stuff about me that I like and the stuff about me that I don't like. I have thought about how I can take all of this new information and use it to get what I need and want for my life and it seems that things are slowly starting to flesh out for me.

exzalibar
03-28-2008, 05:56 AM
Hello, first post.

But i recognize the epiphany thing, i was ''quite'' normal until i got into a new kind of thinking dimension i got very enthustiastic and im now stuck at ''everything is relative and most likely pure energy'' wich sucks because i arent getting any new inputs of thinking so to say :)

Geek007
03-30-2008, 05:29 AM
Hello, first post.

But i recognize the epiphany thing, i was ''quite'' normal until i got into a new kind of thinking dimension i got very enthustiastic and im now stuck at ''everything is relative and most likely pure energy'' wich sucks because i arent getting any new inputs of thinking so to say :)

I am quite new here but let me say welcome :)

What caused your change? Was is a gradual evolution or a short period change?





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I'm definitely not suffering from this. I have a very well defined sense of identity, and my every day thinking reinforces this. Most people like us are very decisive, and so, we are not too susceptible to this (just pondering, I'm certainly not even a novice in this stuff).

How would you define your identity? Is it related to experiences or relationships to others or traits? When did you notice first that you are different from others personality wise?

tinboetti
04-22-2008, 04:56 PM
Hello, first post.

But i recognize the epiphany thing, i was ''quite'' normal until i got into a new kind of thinking dimension i got very enthustiastic and im now stuck at ''everything is relative and most likely pure energy'' wich sucks because i arent getting any new inputs of thinking so to say :)



ive gone through pretty much the same experience. its extremely unsettling and sometimes you feel lost.
ive been reading alot over the internet about my experience that switched my reality as it were to this dimension of thinking and theres a thing that ive found

just search over something known as "kundalini". it may seem "way out there" but it has brought me a hell of alot of insight into this condition

hope this can help you