Crime shows

[ManitobaBonfire]

TV is a vast wasteland. That said I occassionally will visit family members who are *obsessed* with crime TV shows. I don't get it personally. Personally, I only watch long enough to see the murder or rape or whatever in the beginning of the show, and then the rest bores me so I don't watch.

What's the point of these shows? Does anyone actually enjoy melodrama enough to watch Soap Operas about rape & murder rape & murder, rape &.... murder (that's all it ever is, and it is very old after the first episode IMHO.) Apparently according to ratings most do, but most are *also* tarded (and probably non-INTJ.)

Does anyone else here find these shows to be sensational bullshit that isn't worth watching? Personally, I would rather watch JERRY SPRINGER. JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

[Marcia]

My life began when I got rid of my TV.

I hate things I don't understand, and I don't understand the purpose of entertainment which is not entertaining. I just assume it's designed to brainwash the masses in some way, and leave it at that.

[MJag]

Well done crime shows are great because the best cops are INTJs and the logical and procedural methods they use to solve crimes feel like science.

[Metzger]

Criminal Minds is about the only one I can stand, but that's because you actually learn about the true motivations of the criminals and get in their head. I'd recommend it; sometimes it is unpredictable, which makes it very entertaining.

[Silverity]

I haven't had a TV for about 7 years but I occasionally download tv shows and watched a crime show once. I enjoy the "figuring out" bit of it and trying to assemble the clues and figure out who the bad guy is. Still, between crime shows and a documentary on pretty much anything... I'll take the documentary.

[Warrior]

I don't watch the various CSI shows any more. They got boring after a few seasons. I do still like Law and Order (mainly for the legal part of the show). I'll also watch Criminal Minds and The Mentalist every now and then as well.

[Syntax]

The characters are 1 dimensional("You broke the LAW and the LAW is the LAW so you're BAD GUY!"), and the plots are formulaic. Don't even attempt to guess who the killer is, because you're not going to see any evidence of who the real killer is until the last X minutes of the show(where X varies a bit from show to show). Everything before then is a red herring. They don't do that because that's what happens in real life, they do it because it makes compelling T.V.(not to me...but other people like it).

[kepstein8888]

Some of them are okay. Like a tiny handful of sit-coms, they're a fairly safe escape from all of the reality shows and teeny-bop drama crap.

I don't like the melodramatic aspects and politics-101 you get on some of them, but I do like some of the psychology and science of crime-solving. The original CSI and Law and Order are two of the best. CSI Miami, L&O SVU, and Cold Case are more mushy.

[ManitobaBonfire]

The characters are 1 dimensional("You broke the LAW and the LAW is the LAW so you're BAD GUY!"), and the plots are formulaic. Don't even attempt to guess who the killer is, because you're not going to see any evidence of who the real killer is until the last X minutes of the show(where X varies a bit from show to show). Everything before then is a red herring. They don't do that because that's what happens in real life, they do it because it makes compelling T.V.(not to me...but other people like it).

Total agreement.

Anyone who thinks the crime shows are representative of actual policework; I must laugh derisively. Legal drama is *drama.* The real court system is cold, dirty, wears bad pant/suits with frightening regularity, titles are usually "judge" and more simply "Hon.Whomever," and inefficient, The Real Killer[s](TM) go free too often, so on and so forth.

These shows are wank for those who either are serial with respect to lo-life lifestyles that surround them (like the criminal types who love to watch COPS) or are housewife types that just don't have enough excitement in their lives, so they watch this instead. The guys that watch it, well, I just have to to say, there is no accounting for taste, that's all. lol

[ms jennifer]

Can I just step in for a quick moment for praise on a reverse crime show?

my props to the amazing show and character Dexter.

[JanusthePhoenix]

Haven't seen the Dexter show, but love the books.

I like NCIS. Being prior Navy helps, I suppose, and the characters are engaging.

[Mikista]

I watch all crime shows. If no crime shows were available, I wouldn't have a TV. I also like the ghost encounters, paranormal state, hoarders, intervention, criminal minds-- I am in love with A&E. The reason is, I already know how the show will turn out and I always have to see if I am correct. I like psychic crime also. I would really like to know one of the mediums on a personal level. I do watch "medium: on lifetime when it is on. I watch millionaire dating because I already know who the millionaire will pick.. I have to curb myself on TV though as it takes too much of my time.

[Synchronicity]

Crime shows got boring eventually, but I enjoyed them while they were still interesting. I enjoy the mystery, as I do in similar works of fiction, and a bit of suspense never hurt anyone. The closest thing I've watched recently to a crime show is House, which I like for similar reasons.

[Mikista]

I like House too.

[azelismia]

I dislike them too. I do like mysteries along the lines of Agatha Christie. But they don't show the English cozy murders often over here. the only shows I am currently watching are big bang theory, Amazing race, Househunters international and Chuck.

[kepstein8888]

Everybody likes House. Even me, and I hate doctor shows.

Probably the best crime series is To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. It's not at all formulaic, and is character-driven in a good way. The first few seasons are the best. It deals a lot with the psychology that goes on in the interrogation room and departmental politics. It never really caught on with the masses, so you could probably find a copy for free in a dusty corner of your local library.

[XFire35]

Haven't seen the Dexter show, but love the books.

I like NCIS. Being prior Navy helps, I suppose, and the characters are engaging.

I think NCIS has most engaging character sets of many of the crime shows. They really seem to have a relationship opposed to being just colleagues.

[ManitobaBonfire]

Isn't NCIS the one with that goth girl with high platform shoes and pig-tails that works in the science laboratory? Yah. I'm glad I got rid of my television.

If I wanted Lolis, I would buy Manga. That NCIS chick is the less chic alternative for older generations. Personally, I prefer not to see women depicted in the workplace. Also, I prefer a more conservatively dressed woman. (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

azelismia: Now that is quality, well-written mystery. I like her work, and also Doyle. It seems that American audiences relish the sensationalism and drama, and the mystery is somehow little more than a Jerry Springeresque plot-twist: Cheap feint and sleight of hand.

OH IT WAS HIS/HER LOVER FROM BEFORE/AFTER THAT DID/NOT ACTUALLY KNOW THAT X WAS TRUE. Boooooooring. Everyone is well-dressed and groomed, the criminals included. Everything is just-so. I'm very fond of British telly for that reason, I occassionally have been known to find a TV to watch Masterpiece Theater on for example. There is genuine natural drama, no woodeness, no plot-holes, no primadonna syndrome with the British actors and British shows. To put it another way they have talent & the shows are well-written.

American television is more or less intentionall a melodramatic beauty pagent that experiments with the political sympathies of its viewers and offers them an unrelenting stream of commercial compulsion. B00000000000000000000000000000ring.