Now NBC are the racists

[themuzicman]

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Celebrating black history month with fried chicken and collard greens? Really?

Let's see if the "black community" is outraged at a liberal media organization acting just as they were at Fuzzy Zoeller did when Tiger won his first Masters, and Zoeller suggested the same menu (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), and lost a $1M contract with K-mart in the resulting media blitz.

[rahdam]

Someone wasn't thinking.

[Arkeph]

The illusion of persecution is always a self-serving one, permitting the purveyors of it to object to--and claim victory against--a wrong that never occurred.

IMHO, this was not an instance of racial insensitivity, but of people enriching their self-righteous egos at the trough of historical injustice and at the expense of those who actually suffered.

[freeeekyyy]

Not that there's anything wrong with watermelon and collard greens, but those aren't exactly "black" foods as much as they are southern foods. I guarantee white southerners like collard greens and watermelon just as much as any black southerner.

[ArtistTyrant]

who the hell cares about black history month...it's white liberals that push it -.-

[Mullanaphy]

I can't wait to drink on Saint Patrick's Day! :D

And I'm definitely up for eating fried chicken during Black History Month. Also definitely up for eating fried chicken every month.

[seraphicharm]

Not that there's anything wrong with watermelon and collard greens, but those aren't exactly "black" foods as much as they are southern foods. I guarantee white southerners like collard greens and watermelon just as much as any black southerner.

Yes, they are Southern foods, although I think blacks are more likely to eat those things on a more frequent basis than whites (at least that's my impression from growing up in the South). I could be wrong, I don't get out much.

The hypocrisy does get old though.

[elsdfr]

Is it racist to serve pasta on Italian day? What a joke, the US is so PC it's crazy.

[freeeekyyy]

Yes, they are Southern foods, although I think blacks are more likely to eat those things on a more frequent basis than whites (at least that's my impression from growing up in the South). I could be wrong, I don't get out much.

The hypocrisy does get old though.

Statistically, there are more blacks in the south than in the north, so that skews the data. Of all blacks, there may be a higher percentage who enjoy these foods than the percentage of all whites who enjoy them. But if you look only at black northerners, I'm sure they have a similar percentage to white northerners of greens-eaters.

[SeaCzar]

What in the Hell is wrong with fried chicken and collard greens? I like both. I am a Southern boy though. I was unaware of any black connotations (until now).

[Cooper]

Ever heard of KFC? You know, Kentucky Fried Chicken? White guy, white suit? Oh, and then there is Popeye's, too. That's a chicken joint. Does this make Olive Garden, Papa Murphy's, and any other place with an Italian name slapped on racist? Better close down all the Taco Bells and Taco Times, too. Shut down the St. Patty's Day parade and ban green beer.

Get over it and grown up..... PC has gone way the fuck around the bend.

By the way, I'm a white guy that grew up on COLD fried chicken, hush puppies, black eyed peas, fried okra and sweet tea.....

[Yhor]

mmmm, sweat tea.

I got a lecture just yesterday for talking to my boss about a retarded 'client', referring to him as the retarded guy. He's slow, he's retarded. My boss knows I don't hold retarded people in a negative light, and the guy wasn't in the vehicle with us, nor was he within walking distance, much less earshot, but apparently it's bad to say someone who is retarded is retarded. PC at it's best.

At least NBC (in this case) didn't put Mad Dog 20/20 or Thunderbird on the menu, or some Colt 45 malt liquor. Hey, what about the crack pipe? Celebrate some black history with Richard Pryor!

My point being, behind the absurdness of this post, is stop making it 'us' vs 'them'. Being PC is just patronizing and rude, from my point of view, and only separates us all further than we need to be. Making it about politics is even more destructive. Someone made a bad call on a 'menu', it may have been insensitive, but isn't it possible they had the best intentions?

[lurk]

What I find interesting is the reaction that seems to depend on who's being insensitive. If it had been the Fox News cafeteria we'd probably be hearing about no end from NBC.

[stasis]

I got a lecture just yesterday for talking to my boss about a retarded 'client', referring to him as the retarded guy. He's slow, he's retarded. My boss knows I don't hold retarded people in a negative light, and the guy wasn't in the vehicle with us, nor was he within walking distance, much less earshot, but apparently it's bad to say someone who is retarded is retarded. PC at it's best.
This is possibly because use of the word "retarded" was just in the news yesterday (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), in a political context. Sarah Palin says something is outrageous, and so it is. In your boss' mind anyway. Heh.

[Yhor]

This is possibly because use of the word "retarded" was just in the news yesterday (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), in a political context. Sarah Palin says something is outrageous, and so it is. In your boss' mind anyway. Heh.

You know, he actually mentioned that. I laughed at him, then he was quiet a few hours.. he knows he can't win. He's a good old guy; sometimes I wish I could give him a break, but he just rarely lets me.

[freeeekyyy]

This is possibly because use of the word "retarded" was just in the news yesterday (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), in a political context. Sarah Palin says something is outrageous, and so it is. In your boss' mind anyway. Heh.
I can't stand sarah palin. It's nonsense when lefties pull this crap, now she's going to start doing it to?

[whitey]

who the hell cares about black history month...it's white liberals that push it -.-

Agreed. I actually get annoyed by the setting aside of days, weeks, or months as a means of trying to make something special, when those things, if relevant to an individual, should be special with out such perception management by the fucking scum bags in politics and television.

IMHO most of these "special" dates are a means of increasing certain aspects of consumerism. Fuck the assholes who view others as chattel to be manipulated.

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Is it racist to serve pasta on Italian day? What a joke, the US is so PC it's crazy.

This is how the Soviet Union was. They condition the population such that sensitivities are primary issues as opposed to logical rational things. You can't manipulate others who stick to cold hard logic. You need to get their entire world to revolve around emotions and sensitivities. Do a little research on the time period from the 30's-60's regarding this issue of "sensitivity" training. Pay special attention to the issues surrounding returning Korean War POWs who were subjected to such conditioning.

Those who rely upon emotions are literally programmed such that they "react" to certain stimuli in a predictable pattern. It's sick. I have a burning hatred for the fuckers who set up this system via the education system. Even INTJs are susceptible to this programming.

[visitor]

Haha, black people food. :laugh: 16 oz fountain soda? C'mon, where's the grape koolaide?

I'm from the north and I don't know any black people who are obsessed with fried chicken and water melon. Those two foods aren't very tasty up here. Actually, I don't know any black people :huh:, plus I'm Asian, I'm scared of them.

No, it's not racist if there was a specialty on pasta on Italy Day, because that's traditional Italian food? I doubt Africans make fried chicken. Then, again a black person might argue about what the fuck gari, egusi, cizakis or daddawa are and say they're American, they're not African. Whatevs, at least that wouldn't have been offensive. Black History Month and Hispanic Month should just go away.

[Ray9]

Fried chicken and watermelon are well established racial stereotypes regarding blacks. If this had occurred at Fox News Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be making the rounds calling for someone's head. The outrage in this forum would be ubiquitous. But because NBC is a liberal bastion of racial hypocrisy nothing will come of it. It will quickly and quietly be relegated to the back acreage of the cornfield where all left wing racism is sent to remain out of sight and out of the public mind. It's really laughable and it speaks volumes about the intellectual depth of some on this forum.



Black people were usually depicted as slaves or servants, working in cane fields or carrying large piles of cotton. They were often portrayed as devout Christians going to church and singing gospel music. In many vaudeville shows, minstrel acts, cartoons, comics and animated cartoons of this period they were depicted as sad, lazy, dim-witted characters with big lips who sing bluesy songs and are good dancers, but get excited when confronted with dice games, chickens or watermelons (examples: all the characters portrayed by Stepin Fetchit and black characters in cartoons like "Sunday Go to Meetin' Time" and "All This and Rabbit Stew").

[Yhor]

Fried chicken and watermelon are well established racial stereotypes regarding blacks. If this had occurred at Fox News Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be making the rounds calling for someone's head. The outrage in this forum would be ubiquitous. But because NBC is a liberal bastion of racial hypocrisy nothing will come of it. It will quickly and quietly be relegated to the back acreage of the cornfield where all left wing racism is sent to remain out of sight and out of the public mind. It's really laughable and it speaks volumes about the intellectual depth of some on this forum.

You make an extremely valid point. We must all be ignorant commies because we don't blast NBC for obvious racism (serving fried chicken and black eyed peas).

[freeeekyyy]

Agreed. I actually get annoyed by the setting aside of days, weeks, or months as a means of trying to make something special, when those things, if relevant to an individual, should be special with out such perception management by the fucking scum bags in politics and television.

IMHO most of these "special" dates are a means of increasing certain aspects of consumerism. Fuck the assholes who view others as chattel to be manipulated.

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This is how the Soviet Union was. They condition the population such that sensitivities are primary issues as opposed to logical rational things. You can't manipulate others who stick to cold hard logic. You need to get their entire world to revolve around emotions and sensitivities. Do a little research on the time period from the 30's-60's regarding this issue of "sensitivity" training. Pay special attention to the issues surrounding returning Korean War POWs who were subjected to such conditioning.

Those who rely upon emotions are literally programmed such that they "react" to certain stimuli in a predictable pattern. It's sick. I have a burning hatred for the fuckers who set up this system via the education system. Even INTJs are susceptible to this programming.
I think it's more an issue of pushing liberal guilt on everybody, at least in this case. Valentine's day is about consumerism, christmas is about consumerism, etc. Black history month is a little more underhanded and less benign.

[elsdfr]

No, it's not racist if there was a specialty on pasta on Italy Day, because that's traditional Italian food? I doubt Africans make fried chicken.

I think someone mentioned that fried chicken could be considered 'traditional cuisine' in the south of the US.

I have friends of different races. We often joke about each others backgrounds and laugh at the stereotypes because it's funny. However, when the media and PC nazis run around saying "you can't say this and that" it perpetuates the stereotypes and marginalises minorities.

Plus I think the term racist is completely misused these days. Things can be culturally insensitive but to be racist by definition is to claim one race is superior to another for what ever reason.

It also makes me laugh when people online people claim "Oh those people are racist" and then they go on to explain why and end up dropping lines like "that's why they never invented this..." or "managed to create this.. " etc. It's an absolute joke and the world needs to get a grip. Especially the US media.

/rant

You need to get their entire world to revolve around emotions and sensitivities.

Yeah, keep the natives divided and fighting amongst themselves and they'll be too busy to organise themselves and be able to see who is actually being abused, ie. them, collectively!

[Pyroninja42]

Hey, guys, here's something funny: The cook that made the menu was a black lady.

Honestly, they should have that meal in honor of any history month.

[larkin]

I think it's bizarre that in an effort to point out what terrible hypocrites liberals are, a few conservatives on this board are the ones who have become absurdly politically correct, making race an issue at every opportunity. And before they rush to point out what would I think if it were Fox News, I think this whole thread would be equally absurd no matter who they are accusing.

The efforts to cynically charge racism to score points about hypocrisy (when largely, that's not really an issue here) are beyond tiresome.

[Grimstad]

Geez people.

1. It was the friggen cafeteria. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEWS DEPARTMENT.

2. TWO PEOPLE in the cafeteria came up with this idea.

3. They did this last year without any hooplah. What makes this year any different? Think about it.

4. As the updates keep getting added, this becomes less and less of a story.

Forget about the fact that at least one of the 2 people in the cafe that came up with this is black. Its a NON STORY. People are so busy trying to find ANY SIGN that there are racists on the left they are making total fools of themselves. Why? I'd have to say it's a guilty conscience.

[Yhor]

Forget about the fact that at least one of the 2 people in the cafe that came up with this is black. Its a NON STORY. People are so busy trying to find ANY SIGN that there are racists on the left they are making total fools of themselves. Why? I'd have to say it's a guilty conscience.

How could it be anything different? I agree, and find any other explanation mentioned already (ie. it's NBC instead of Fox) to just be an excuse to fire into the shadows, not knowing exactly who the target really is.

[BlackOp]

Ha...that black chef is RACIST. I hope she gets fired....:p I will never eat soul food again...I think I may never eat again. I had a burrito for dinner...oh the shame!

[Ray9]

I think it's bizarre that in an effort to point out what terrible hypocrites liberals are, a few conservatives on this board are the ones who have become absurdly politically correct, making race an issue at every opportunity. And before they rush to point out what would I think if it were Fox News, I think this whole thread would be equally absurd no matter who they are accusing.

The efforts to cynically charge racism to score points about hypocrisy (when largely, that's not really an issue here) are beyond tiresome.

Lol. Really? Hypocrisy isn't an issue here? When conservatives charge racism it's cynical but when liberals charge racism it's to save the world from conservatives.

[Nemesis]

Lol. Really? Hypocrisy isn't an issue here? When conservatives charge racism it's cynical but when liberals charge racism it's to save the world from conservatives.

Do you not realize that the more that the topic of race gets dredged up and dragged through the putrid swamp of the American media as a petty tool to demonize "the other side" (and this goes for the left as well), the more that real racism will start to surface? You guys (on both ends of the American political "spectrum") are blatantly exploiting the topic of race for political ends.

This is nothing more than another excuse to sling shit at your political opponents using whatever you can as ammo... no matter what group you exploit to do so. Sad.

[cannotseethe]

Lol. Really? Hypocrisy isn't an issue here? When conservatives charge racism it's cynical but when liberals charge racism it's to save the world from conservatives.

I'd say that there are liberals who charge racism to help people who are oppressed by racism. There are conservatives who do the same.

Then there are people who can't see the difference between cynical manipulation of public opinion and genuine caring. This latter group cuts across the political spectrum.

The real trick is to tease all this apart. Where one lies on the political spectrum is a misdirection.

[kepstein8888]

Now political correctness is seeping into the food supply.

I think that lady should have her own cooking show.

[Mader]

Y'all may be too young to remember, but there used to be something called Soul Food. This was, basically, foods that black people cooked at home. It was very big in the 60's and 70's. Fried chicken (or any fried meat), greens, black-eyed peas - basically, cheap food that you could easily buy or grow in the South.

I now live in Tennessee and spent several years in Kentucky. we have places we call 'meat and threes', kind of like blue plate specials. If you eat at a meat and three, you will always have a choice of something fried, often chicken, greens, white beans or black-eyed peas, grits, cornbread and of course, sweet tea (it is called sweet tea, not iced tea) Every white person I have ever eaten with eats this stuff, me too. And black folks eat this food. In fact, the 'black' restaurants are considered the best places to eat for Southern food. Me, a white person, doesn't call this Soul Food anymore, we call it Country Cooking. I have paid $15.00 for such a lunch!

Remember in the movie Blues Brothers, when they go to the restaurant owned by Aretha Franklin??? They served Soul Food.

BTW. The traditional Sunday-after-church family meal???? Fried chicken.

Racist? No. The liberals who complained are just plain ignorant

[ElstonGunn]

Lol. Really? Hypocrisy isn't an issue here? When conservatives charge racism it's cynical but when liberals charge racism it's to save the world from conservatives.

Significant portions of the conservative population have a history of not being too keen on blacks. Segregation was a conservative idea. Opposition to affirmative action is popular among conservatives. The people who feel threatened by having a black president are conservative.

A chef at NBC referenced a gastronomic stereotype about black people.

Yeah, those are on the same order of magnitude. :rolleyes:

[Thrasymachus]

It feels like every time anyone who is slightly liberal says something or does something slightly none pc the conservatives explode in a orgy frenzy of 'gotcha!.
It smells so much more like
LOOK you guys are just as (whatever topic the liberals have been gotcha'd on) as we are except you all just let it slide.
Except the differences are outrageous
You take a couple liberals who doodle on a desk and then in jubilation you take out to the streets and yell LIBERALS ARE PRO GRAFFITI.
It makes my skin turn red whenever I read threads like this.