Technological singularity and architecture

[Daniel]

What is the meaning of architecture in the context of Technological singularity(To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)? Is it meaningless to construct aesthetical buildings knowing that one day there will be one super intelligence that will not need any buildings?

[burazekun]

Nothing is meaningless as we give it meaning for the now. Buildings can be apreaciated because of their usefulness to individuals. Like bears apreciate their caves when they hibernate. We are growing and adapting the simple hole in the wall concept to grow outward and more mobile, more expandable with our ever growing needs and curiosities. Even if we grow to this point, where we wouldn't need a "building" we can still look back, in historical terms and apreciate why we did it, even if it wasn't effecient.

There may even come a point where humans migrate to an intranet of sorts, but even then, to prolong the hardware supporting them, a building or casing would have to be made and why not make it stylish. In the event of a intranet evolution, there would still be others who took different paths, and could appreciate these building from a different prespective.

[Vortex]

An obvious kritik to this question is:

Sense the universe will one day die completely from heat death - why bother do anything?

Nihilistic questions, while fundamentally accurate, are self-defeating in that they destroy the reason to ask them.

Plus, QFT for burazekun.

[Homini Lupus]

I think I shouldn't care about what a future super intelligence will think of what I'm doing right now if I'll be long dead when it shows up. If I'm an artist I search aesthetics to assert myself. I already know future people will despise many of my practices (like we now do with victorian age or imperialism or middle ages); but I live here and now.

[Daniel]

Thank you for your interesting replies.
I found a very interesting thought in the internet. Actually everything what we do, contributes to singularity. Scientists and engineers work in fields like artificial intelligence, neuroscience, computer vision. But they all need food, somebody grows, buildings, engineers and architects design, medicine and so on...In this sense everybody, even the old lady, which cleans your university bathrooms contributes to singularity.

But isn‘t there are danger that even in my lifespan (I‘m 19teen) Architects profession may start to become obsolete. We all spent a lot of time in the internet. Imagine a chip in your head, connecting our all thoughts. One human brain internet. Everything is delivered to your home automatically, you practically don‘t move from one place, slowly integrating into this big circuit. People don‘t leave their habitat. There‘s no need for public spaces.

[sam988]

An obvious kritik to this question is:

Sense the universe will one day die completely from heat death - why bother do anything?

Nihilistic questions, while fundamentally accurate, are self-defeating in that they destroy the reason to ask them.

Plus, QFT for burazekun.




If we do reach the technological singularity, we will be able to overcome heat death. We as a species will be able to control the whole universe eventually, because our intelligence will constantly and rapidly expand. Once we have saturated this universe, since it is likely that there are many more universes and dimensions, we will probably go there too.

But this is all just theory of course; we are still uncertain of what will happen and what will our capabilities be once we reach the technological singularity.

[Vortex]

That assumes technological singularity allows you to reverse an entire universe's amount of energy within an acceptable time frame. Your also assuming multiple universes (meta or branching) exist, and that its physically possible to get there.

Notice the amount of assumption?

Even worse, it won't be humans to achieve technological singularity. It will be either a genetically enhanced race of cyborgs, AI, or something even more exotic beyond our present imagination. The human brain lacks the neural capacity for a technological singularity to occur.

[sam988]

That assumes technological singularity allows you to reverse an entire universe's amount of energy within an acceptable time frame. Your also assuming multiple universes (meta or branching) exist, and that its physically possible to get there.

Notice the amount of assumption?


Yeah when i said it "it is all theory" i wanted to mean about all these assumptions too, but i didn't type the sentence in a more clear way.

There are indeed many assumptions, but even if there are no multiple universes, and even if our expansion will be limited by the speed of light, i still believe that we as a civilization will grow so powerful that until heat death occurs, we will find a way to stop it or go to another universe/dimension. Now i'll may myself clear; these are all assumptions that may or may not be true. We will only know with time.



Even worse, it won't be humans to achieve technological singularity. It will be either a genetically enhanced race of cyborgs, AI, or something even more exotic beyond our present imagination. The human brain lacks the neural capacity for a technological singularity to occur.


It will be AIs that will achieve technological singularity, because the very starting point of a technological singularity is when AIs smarter than us come to existence, and these AIs, since they're smarter than us, will be able to create even smarter AIs, that in turn will create even smarter AIs, and on and on.

There are a few dangers here as you must have imagined; what if these AIs decide that we are not useful anymore and they kick our butt out of existence? It's a risk, but as AIs will be our creation, they will be like us, and there's a high probability that they will be friendly, and eventually we will indeed not be humans in the current meaning of the word anymore. The species in the singularity will be the result of the combination of our biological bodies merged with the machines/AIs. Our bodies will eventually become virtually 100% non biological. Just like the machines. It will be fundamental that we become like them, or we will become even worse that what monkeys are to us currently.