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eagleseven
10-08-2009, 10:36 AM
In context of our *cough* enlightened modern society, should shooting still be an official Olympic sport, and why?
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Talkahuano
10-08-2009, 10:54 AM
If ping pong, archery, and javelin toss are olympic sports, I don't see why shooting shouldn't be.
Guns/weapons/use of force are integral parts of any civilization no matter how "enlightened" to pretend otherwise is juvenile and naive.
DewFuel
10-08-2009, 02:24 PM
Hell yes it should be part of the olympics.
PunkinA
10-08-2009, 03:07 PM
I like sports with meaning. Sports began as a celebration of competition and conflict, without the requirement that someone die at the end. Shooting fits right along with displays of skill in competition.
On the other hand, I fail to recognize the theme of conflict in synchronized swimming. Maybe if atheletes shot at the synchronized swimmers...
Warrior
10-08-2009, 03:13 PM
I like sports with meaning. Sports began as a celebration of competition and conflict, without the requirement that someone die at the end. Shooting fits right along with displays of skill in competition.
On the other hand, I fail to recognize the theme of conflict in synchronized swimming. Maybe if atheletes shot at the synchronized swimmers...
Or perhaps if they performed in the middle of a hurricane! :)
Mogura
10-08-2009, 03:53 PM
Ummm... Isn't the origin of the Olympics traced to weaponry demonstrations/martial arts (javelin, shot put, discus, etc.)? Normal sports (baseball, basketball, etc.) were added on to increase sponsorship revenue.
Though, in keeping with the times, I think they should introduce Taser competitions...
I'd like to see all sports that require judging removed from the Olympics. By judging I do not mean officiating. I mean holding up cards with a subjective score on it. This would get the acrobats out of the Olympics and back into the circus where they belong. The Olympics should for athletes who run the fastest and jump the highest/longest. Diving no, swimming yes. Team sports like volleyball, basketball and baseball no. Team relay races, cycling yes. We need to get Hollywood and Madison Avenue out of the Olympics. All the wrong types are glorified in the modern Olympics. The one's looking for future big paydays from product endorsements.
DewFuel
10-08-2009, 05:19 PM
Hearing a lotta good ideas for synchronized swimming in this thread.
Corbu
10-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Biathlon for the win!!! The sport is awesome :)
CaptainA
10-09-2009, 06:44 AM
I'd like to see all sports that require judging removed from the Olympics. By judging I do not mean officiating. I mean holding up cards with a subjective score on it. This would get the acrobats out of the Olympics and back into the circus where they belong. The Olympics should for athletes who run the fastest and jump the highest/longest.
Wholeheartedly agree. However there are several in my family who would freak out at the lack of Ice Skating for example. Get rid of the dancing and keep the racing. Oh and to stay on topic Yes to shooting.
Mullanaphy
10-09-2009, 10:21 AM
What's wrong with shooting and guns in general?
Where's the problem and what's the reasoning not to have it?
Little off topic, they should 100% bring back softball... That was pathetic of them to remove.
Mader
10-10-2009, 07:00 PM
Softball was dropped because of the difficulty of developing teams for competition. - the US and Australia dominated the sport. But I agree, if they have baseball, they should have softball, and softball can be more difficult - guys who try to hit fastpitch usually wiff it.
Shooting is fun and to be the best is more and more difficult each year. Keep it.
Shooting the sync. swimmers, sounds like fun (altho this is much harder than it looks, too)
Scoring judges, I agree with all the above. Too bad Chicago didn't get the Olympics, Chicago could have provided plenty of judges.
LordCorbin
10-13-2009, 08:24 AM
Shooting takes a great deal of skill to master, I would definitely want to keep it. The big question to me is why anyone thinks golf is a sport, and why it should be brought back into the fold as an olympic event. Dont old white men have enough? Whats next, wack-a-mole?
True Rune
10-13-2009, 08:25 AM
Of course it should be, though we should upgrade to lasers soon.
KeithIndy
10-13-2009, 09:07 AM
Shooting takes a great deal of skill to master, I would definitely want to keep it. The big question to me is why anyone thinks golf is a sport, and why it should be brought back into the fold as an olympic event. Dont old white men have enough? Whats next, wack-a-mole?
and skeeball...
To the original question, yes. Marksmen ship takes a great deal of skill. Patience, breathing control, fine motor skills, judging the conditions of the range. That's why putting a shooter through the physical paces and then making them focus for the shot is so interesting.
I've been donating to the USA Shooting team (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) for several years now. Usually get a really nice calendar out of it, and the satisfaction that I'm helping to keep the sport of shooting alive.
what are the rules for a sport to enter the olympics?
Lycurgus
11-10-2009, 01:31 PM
I think the better question is why shouldn't it remain an Olympic sport?
It's a competition, it's not objectively judged, and it's difficult (and for some, impossible) to gain a mastery level of the sport, needed to compete at these levels.
So, why does "enlightenment" have anything to do with competition? We still have Olympic Karate and Olympic Archery, why not Firearms?
Slacker
11-10-2009, 05:53 PM
Shooting doesn't seem out of place. Curling on the other hand. There's a sport that must be more fun to play than to watch.
I think the better question is why shouldn't it remain an Olympic sport?
It's a competition, it's not objectively judged, and it's difficult (and for some, impossible) to gain a mastery level of the sport, needed to compete at these levels.
So, why does "enlightenment" have anything to do with competition? We still have Olympic Karate and Olympic Archery, why not Firearms?
Ok, I don't know, but what is the olympics actually about?
Is it just about who can ...... the highest/fastest/heaviest/longest?
every sport is a competion and is difficult (when competing against others)
what is enlightenment in sport and what does Karate have to do with archery and firearms?
Lycurgus
11-11-2009, 10:59 AM
what is enlightenment in sport and what does Karate have to do with archery and firearms?The OP specified that we're supposed to be an 'enlightened' society, with the implication that an enlightened society shouldn't have something like shooting as a competition in the Olympics.
My posit was that enlightenment has nothing to do with the Olympics, it's an entirely separate issue. And even if it wasn't, why is shooting the only sport that was singled out, and not Karate & Archery (come to think of it, Fencing, boxing, etc), which are all sports which were, in a less "enlightened" time used as a method of war.
eagleseven
11-16-2009, 01:15 PM
The OP specified that we're supposed to be an 'enlightened' society, with the implication that an enlightened society shouldn't have something like shooting as a competition in the Olympics.
Interesting interpretation, considering I fully support shooting.
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