Ron Paul - March on Washington DC!

[Santana28]

Freedom lovers, time to take a stand!

Dr. Paul is calling for a mass march on Washington DC sometime very soon... i think dates in mid April are being passed around. I'll post more when i hear the final details.

Seeing as how there is an amazing preponderance of INTJs and INTPs among Dr. Paul's supporter ranks, it would be a very good chance to not only be a part of something monumental, but also a once in a lifetime opportunity to socially observe similar types in mass group action ;) I, for one, can resist neither one.

Who's with me? Party in DC!

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[anul]

I was able to see him speak last year at his Chicago rally. I probably can't make it to Washington DC for that.

[sonofone]

Ugh, Ron Paul. *Shudder*.

I'm ok with the comment, I just wish you elaborated a little.


Anyway, I'm voting for Ron Paul because I want to show support for our constitution (I know, I'm a radical) but I don't think he would make a good president. That being said, I think the other candidates are only going to further the abuse that Bush is so famous for (and not to forget Clinton I or most other presidents) and will suck more corporate cock than a prostitute outside a Hilton.

[James Revell]

Dr. Paul is calling for a mass march on Washington DC sometime very soon... i think dates in mid April are being passed around. I'll post more when i hear the final details.


Living in the DC area I'd like to see someone have a mass march on some other city. Metro usually sucks (worse) on march weekends, so keep us posted so I can be away.

Seriously though, while I'm for libertarianism and a bit idealistic I still have a problem throwing away my vote, and I absolutely don't want Hillary in charge of the country.

[coffeeloverfreak]

Okay, I'll elaborate. Here are my top 5 reasons why I dislike Ron Paul:

He promotes conspiracy theories. 9/11 denial, NAFTA conspiracies, international banking cabals... you name it, he's the wingnuts' greatest hope.
For a window into what he really believes, check out some of his newsletters (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). (n.b. I'm not necessarily endorsing the story's source, but the research itself seems solid).
"With friends like these..." You can get a good sense of what kind of president someone would be by looking at where his support base is coming from. In Paul's case, it ain't pretty (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). And Paul's persistent refusal to denounce the people who claim to be his friends but espouse those kinds of views is telling as well. Heck, he even accepts their campaign contributions (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Shudder.
He's an isolationist, which, in the face of over-involvement and disastrously ill-advised decisions like the Iraq war has a certain appeal, but is no way to run a country as a general policy.
He preaches a theological agenda and rejects evolution (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Paul is just another Christian conservative disguised as a left-wing libertarian.

[Mandrake]

Okay, I'll elaborate. Here are my top 5 reasons why I dislike Ron Paul:

He promotes conspiracy theories. 9/11 denial, NAFTA conspiracies, international banking cabals... you name it, he's the wingnuts' greatest hope.
For a window into what he really believes, check out some of his . (n.b. I'm not necessarily endorsing the story's source, but the research itself seems solid).
"With friends like these..." You can get a good sense of what kind of president someone would be by looking at where his support base is coming from. In Paul's case, . And Paul's persistent refusal to denounce the people who claim to be his friends but espouse those kinds of views is telling as well. Heck, he even . Shudder.
He's an isolationist, which, in the face of over-involvement and disastrously ill-advised decisions like the Iraq war has a certain appeal, but is no way to run a country as a general policy.
He preaches a theological agenda and . Paul is just another Christian conservative disguised as a left-wing libertarian.


I'll agree with most of it. Ron Paul has such a great and fresh concept on current politics that he almost had me supporting him. However, he does come me as too radical in foreign policies to trust him that much. Even if he was to win, he would become a lame duck since day 1 as president.

I think I will just support McCain as for now because he is less liberal and even if some people call him "Bush Lite", I think he the best overall candidate.

[Trivani]

Okay, I'll elaborate. Here are my top 5 reasons why I dislike Ron Paul:

He promotes conspiracy theories. 9/11 denial, NAFTA conspiracies, international banking cabals... you name it, he's the wingnuts' greatest hope.
For a window into what he really believes, check out some of his newsletters (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). (n.b. I'm not necessarily endorsing the story's source, but the research itself seems solid).
"With friends like these..." You can get a good sense of what kind of president someone would be by looking at where his support base is coming from. In Paul's case, it ain't pretty (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). And Paul's persistent refusal to denounce the people who claim to be his friends but espouse those kinds of views is telling as well. Heck, he even accepts their campaign contributions (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Shudder.
He's an isolationist, which, in the face of over-involvement and disastrously ill-advised decisions like the Iraq war has a certain appeal, but is no way to run a country as a general policy.
He preaches a theological agenda and rejects evolution (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Paul is just another Christian conservative disguised as a left-wing libertarian.


All of these are ignorant generalizations and show that you have not listened to him speak. Intelligent people look at the events that occurred on 9/11 and listen to the eyewitnesses and draw the conclusion that the towers were brought down with controlled demolition. The North American Union movement is real. So is the Amero, a new North American currency. Visit:
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and you will see the movement for "regional currencies" is real.
Ron Paul supports communicating and trading with other countries, not invading them or telling them what to do. Ron Paul has sincere religious values and he is loyal to them. However, it is strictly against his beliefs to force his beliefs on others. What should it matter to you what he believes in as long as they are moral. Finally, we would all lose credibility if we were to be found guilty by association.

[lordrrr]

Okay, I'll elaborate. Here are my top 5 reasons why I dislike Ron Paul:

He promotes conspiracy theories. 9/11 denial, NAFTA conspiracies, international banking cabals... you name it, he's the wingnuts' greatest hope.
For a window into what he really believes, check out some of his newsletters (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). (n.b. I'm not necessarily endorsing the story's source, but the research itself seems solid).
"With friends like these..." You can get a good sense of what kind of president someone would be by looking at where his support base is coming from. In Paul's case, it ain't pretty (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). And Paul's persistent refusal to denounce the people who claim to be his friends but espouse those kinds of views is telling as well. Heck, he even accepts their campaign contributions (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Shudder.
He's an isolationist, which, in the face of over-involvement and disastrously ill-advised decisions like the Iraq war has a certain appeal, but is no way to run a country as a general policy.
He preaches a theological agenda and rejects evolution (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). Paul is just another Christian conservative disguised as a left-wing libertarian.


Is there a problem with conspiracies? I really like this guy because he's the ONLY candidate to express opposition to the NAU conspiracy that CANNOT HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT!!! Otherwise the US is finished.

Too bad washington has the most messed up political process where you have to pick a party to vote :/ and the fact that I'm not old enough to vote (next election lol). My parents are freaking annoying about voting though- all they think about is the Iraq war. "Whoever wins the democratic nominee spot is who I'm voting for because democrats can end the War on Terror with a flick of their magic wand!" They didn't even consider any other issues. They just want our boys out of Iraq. Way to go mom and dad :thumbsdown:.

[Lights]

Intelligent people look at the events that occurred on 9/11 and listen to the eyewitnesses and draw the conclusion that the towers were brought down with controlled demolition.

Or maybe intelligent people realize this is a repeated pattern in human history where a traumatic event occurs and groups of people that are predisposed to forming conspiracy theories, come to a conclusion about why it happened and ignore all evidence to the contrary.

Maybe intelligent people support the scientific method for coming to conclusions, not just speculation.

[Trivani]

Or maybe intelligent people realize this is a repeated pattern in human history where a traumatic event occurs and groups of people that are predisposed to forming conspiracy theories, come to a conclusion about why it happened and ignore all evidence to the contrary.

Maybe intelligent people support the scientific method for coming to conclusions, not just speculation.

People are predisposed to assuming that tragic events are conspiracies because history has shown that people are capable of horrible things and smart people are capable of doing horrible things in order to achieve an agenda. The nazis dressed up as polish soldiers and then invaded their own radio station to justify invading Poland. They also faked a terrorist attack on their own parliament building to justify removing parliament and expand the executive powers of Adolf. Sound familiar? Don't forget that the whole idea of an arab plotting the 9/11 attacks is also a conspiracy theory because it has never really been proven. And no, the talking heads on the tv saying so is not proof!

[Santana28]

People are predisposed to assuming that tragic events are conspiracies because history has shown that people are capable of horrible things and smart people are capable of doing horrible things in order to achieve an agenda. The nazis dressed up as polish soldiers and then invaded their own radio station to justify invading Poland. They also faked a terrorist attack on their own parliament building to justify removing parliament and expand the executive powers of Adolf. Sound familiar? Don't forget that the whole idea of an arab plotting the 9/11 attacks is also a conspiracy theory because it has never really been proven. And no, the talking heads on the tv saying so is not proof!

Amen!

Seriously - before you're going to put a broad negative label on someone or something, at least have the prudence to speak SPECIFICALLY. And in case anyone is wondering, just because someone believes in government accountability and attracts people of numerous backgrounds and ideas and does not exclude them - does NOT make them associated with "conspiracy theories" - it is the other way around. Freedom to question is a GOOD thing. Being inclusive is a GOOD thing.

[coffeeloverfreak]

This thread is just further evidence of what I'm talking about. I'd like to give a big shout-out to the wingnuts who have just posted responses proving that I was right when I said Paul is "the wingnuts' greatest hope".

[Santana28]

This thread is just further evidence of what I'm talking about. I'd like to give a big shout-out to the wingnuts who have just posted responses proving that I was right when I said Paul is "the wingnuts' greatest hope".

huh?

[Lights]

This thread is just further evidence of what I'm talking about. I'd like to give a big shout-out to the wingnuts who have just posted responses proving that I was right when I said Paul is "the wingnuts' greatest hope".

:laugh: Exactly.

It seems that the American government is now comparable to Nazi Germany. :rolleyes:

[Trivani]

Exactly.

It seems that the American government is now comparable to Nazi Germany.

History teaches that history repeats itself and those that do not learn from past mistakes are doomed to repeat them. Your statement assumes that it is a mistake to compare America to Nazi Germany. It is prudent to compare ourselves to all people in the past because we are still humans as they were and we are prone to repeating their mistakes.
:rolleyes:

[Lights]

:laugh:

It is hilarious. Of course I can also see some examples that are just as historically "relevant". There was a time when all these crazy Puritans thought all this bad crap that was happening was the work of the devil through witches and so they hung a bunch of innocent people. And then there was this time called the Cold War, where everybody was really tense and suspicious and this one congressman named McCarthy riled up the nation into believing there was a Communist living on every corner who was aiming to destroy anything American. Thankfully, that only lead to the ruin of many an American's career and reputation.

Or maybe we should go back to that Nazi Germany example, where they were at one point suffering a terrible Depression and there was this leader who kept arguing that there were banking societies ran by Jews who were secretly controlling everything, including the government, and who had lead Germany into those bad times. That only lead to the Holocaust.

Truly, all these situations of course, are incredibly "relevant" to the modern times and situations. :laugh:

And just because all those situations were politically motivated doesn't mean this current one is. I mean, it's not like the people who believe this conspiracy are already predisposed to an inherent distrust of the government. :rolleyes:

[coffeeloverfreak]

LOL @ Lights. Dead-on.