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Valiyn
09-27-2009, 01:56 PM
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At the G20 summit on September 25th, 2009, police may have over reacted against students at of the University of Pittsburgh. The summit was in response for to the global credit crisis and the G20 summit in London earlier. It is an International event with participants like the UN, The world bank, IMF, the WTO and others meet.

An estimated total of 4,500 peaceful protesters were present and prompted what some are calling a vicious, and unprovoked attack from police initially. The situation deteriorated from there as a few in the crowds broke windows of nearby business. Estimated $50,000 in damages, $20,000 to a single person who broke around 20 windows and doors that night.

The news and Youtube links to are about the police and the students specifically because that seems to be where the majority of concern with this event unfolds.

Thoughts?

Aurelia
09-27-2009, 02:31 PM
I don't think it was an overreaction. They should have left the area and disbanded when told to by the police. If they didn't, that was their own fault.

Aronnax
09-27-2009, 02:49 PM
I don't think it was an overreaction. They should have left the area and disbanded when told to by the police. If they didn't, that was their own fault.


So you feel the 1st amendment only applies until the police say it doesn't? Interesting...

Nite Fise
09-27-2009, 06:57 PM
It all pisses me off. The police get away with infringing on their rights to gather and voice their opinion. Then the news cartel unites to call the protesters anarchists and only shows the minority that cause problems, ignoring the vast majority of peaceful protesters. The Faux News goes so far as to say the protesters are paid to go to each of these summits to protest.

Archaic Smile
10-06-2009, 03:09 PM
I'm curious about the opinions people here have regarding the recent arrest of a protester who was accused of tweeting the location of police officers to other G20 protesters trying to evade them during the summit.

When I heard about the arrest I immediately thought of when US officials asked Twitter to delay a network upgrade so that Iranian citizens could continue to communicate during their protests of the presidential election. Communications which included police movements and government crack downs.

hubcap
10-06-2009, 03:16 PM
The 1st Amendment does not apply when people are destroying the private property of others.

Aronnax
10-06-2009, 03:40 PM
The 1st Amendment does not apply when people are destroying the private property of others.


So if citizen 1 is destroying the property of citizen 2 it's ok to revoke the 1st amendment rights of citizens 3 through 1000.

Conservationist
10-06-2009, 03:49 PM
I don't think it was an overreaction. They should have left the area and disbanded when told to by the police. If they didn't, that was their own fault.

Yep, and it's funny how these protestors always have masks at the ready, and there's always vandalism.

Wonder if the vandalism is the reason for the protest, and the politics is just an excuse. Anarchist-types tend to be screwed up people.

Aronnax
10-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Yep, and it's funny how these protestors always have masks at the ready, and there's always vandalism.

Wonder if the vandalism is the reason for the protest, and the politics is just an excuse. Anarchist-types tend to be screwed up people.

I always wonder if some of the Anarchists are Pinkertons.

It's not like it hasn't been done before to break up Union protests.

hubcap
10-06-2009, 04:02 PM
So if citizen 1 is destroying the property of citizen 2 it's ok to revoke the 1st amendment rights of citizens 3 through 1000.
No.

However, the police are charged with keeping the order, and it appears that this "mob" was pretty much out of control. I respect the police dept and their efforts to restore order.

Hanfgeist
10-06-2009, 04:03 PM
The videos I saw of unarmed students being beaten and gassed in a college building were reminiscent of the film 'Zabriskie Point' from the sixties, student protest are nothing new and nor is draconian action against them but when did the OCP police from Robocop using LRAD and Microwave machines become 'normal' in policing people who have a legitimate right to assemble and register their protest? The goons who killed an unarmed middle aged guy, who was'nt a protestor but worked in the area and was on his way home at the London protest were rumoured to be 'Black and Tans' or army dressed in police uniforms (they used the same tactic during the miners strikes back in the 1980s)....


What do people in the U.S. think about the foreign mercenary goons who are dressed as Robocops, running an internment camp in Hardin, Montana? from this side of the pond it looks very strange, as you usually see this type of 'Police Force' in failed states like the Soviet Union and third world banana republics........