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cruiseingheart
09-11-2009, 05:17 PM
I heard from a friend that at the US Canada and Mexico are going to be merged into a North American union that means all the borders will be open and there will be a new currency that would replace the dollar is called the amero. I'm from the UK I usually look on cnn for news and I havn't heard anything. I thought that people from the US on this forum have heard something?
Synamon
09-11-2009, 05:25 PM
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hubcap
09-11-2009, 07:06 PM
Ain't happening.
Hamburglar
09-12-2009, 09:38 AM
If anything it will happen as all three nations find that collectively they can make more money than not. This was the reasoning (among others) for converting from a loose confederation of states to a centralized federal system. Us 'youngins are far less attached to the historical dogma which hindered previous generations from forming such an economic and social union with supposed 'enemies'. Our children will be even more inclined to support this union, and likely by the time the baby booms have started falling off the spectrum something like this will occur. IMO.
I like the idea of super highway, I-29/I-35. This would provide a corridor for illegal aliens to go directly from Mexico to Canada where I'm sure they would be much more warmly received.
America would gain from merging with Canada. They get vast amounts of land and resources from the deal. They get few people and those are of similar culture to themselves. So the problem is persuading the Canadians. They probably prefer to retain self-determination and their resources.
The problem is Mexico. They don't have much to offer the US in the way of resources. There are vast numbers of them and they are a very different culture. The US fears waves of Mexicans coming north displacing workers, changing the culture, even the language. If America is not worth preserving in its present form, then perhaps it should break up and move to an EU model.
Hamburglar
09-12-2009, 04:16 PM
America would gain from merging with Canada. They get vast amounts of land and resources from the deal. They get few people and those are of similar culture to themselves. So the problem is persuading the Canadians. They probably prefer to retain self-determination and their resources.
The problem is Mexico. They don't have much to offer the US in the way of resources. There are vast numbers of them and they are a very different culture. The US fears waves of Mexicans coming north displacing workers, changing the culture, even the language. If America is not worth preserving in its present form, then perhaps it should break up and move to an EU model.
you are wrong frankly....To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
just because they are doing a terrible job of capitalizing their resources does not mean they have none.
jesse
09-13-2009, 10:20 AM
I heard from a friend that at the US Canada and Mexico are going to be merged into a North American union that means all the borders will be open and there will be a new currency that would replace the dollar is called the amero. I'm from the UK I usually look on cnn for news and I havn't heard anything. I thought that people from the US on this forum have heard something?
Alex Jones strikes yet again with his crackpot internationalist conpiracies. I'm sure other sources have also highlighted the impending doom of fusing all of North America into a single political entity. I suggest your friend stops believing every raving shock-jock on a soapbox and a microphone.
Even if this were happening, CNN won't report on it because Michael Jackson is still more important. ;)
Visum
09-20-2009, 08:45 PM
Mexico needs to be developed before the merger.
Mader
09-20-2009, 10:42 PM
Nah.
No offense to Mexico and Canada, but the Americans just aren't going to do this, even if it was in our countries' best interest.
And heck, we can't even get along with other Americans, what makes anyone think we could get along with Mexico and Canada?
Hamburglar
09-21-2009, 07:38 AM
Making money cures all wounds.
hubcap
09-21-2009, 07:58 AM
Making money cures all wounds.
We would all make less money if we merged with Mexico and Canada.
So your statement isn't relevent.
ablank
09-23-2009, 05:11 PM
Are you referring to the SPP (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)?
Maybe this (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)will help to clear thing up...
Nemesis
09-23-2009, 06:45 PM
Nah.
No offense to Mexico and Canada, but the Americans just aren't going to do this, even if it was in our countries' best interest.
And heck, we can't even get along with other Americans, what makes anyone think we could get along with Mexico and Canada?
:laugh: No offense taken! I love Americans, but the prospect of "kinda being one" leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
PunkinA
09-23-2009, 08:50 PM
It would be too difficult to adjust our flag at this point. Adding new territories, provinces or states simply will not do. Fifty stars fit so nicely in that deep blue field. Plus, it sounds so nice to say fifty of this or fifty of that. I'd have to replace my bumper sticker too. It's never going to happen.
Sorry Puerto Rico.
Sorry Guam.
Synamon
09-23-2009, 09:07 PM
It would be too difficult to adjust our flag at this point. Adding new territories, provinces or states simply will not do. Fifty stars fit so nicely in that deep blue field. Plus, it sounds so nice to say fifty of this or fifty of that. I'd have to replace my bumper sticker too. It's never going to happen.
Sorry Puerto Rico.
Sorry Guam.
You can merge North and South Dakota into Dakota to free up a spot for Canada and blend Mexico into Texas as Tex-Mex, presto problem solved.
Globalization and trade pacts and a lot of other cooperative measures are on the table. The actual merger of the three countries hasn't made it to the table. Could it happen someday? Maybe. Do I actually think the countries will merge? Nope, there's no reason to. The countries of Europe haven't and aren't planning to merge either.
LaoTzu
09-23-2009, 09:21 PM
I heard from a friend that at the US Canada and Mexico are going to be merged into a North American union that means all the borders will be open and there will be a new currency that would replace the dollar is called the amero. I'm from the UK I usually look on cnn for news and I havn't heard anything. I thought that people from the US on this forum have heard something?
It's a conspiracy theory that's been going around.
No doubt it's been talked about in higher-up circles...no doubt. Be an answer to the EU Bloc.
But in reality, no self respecting Canadian; and no self respecting American... yeah that's it... none of these self-respecting peoples would go for it.
PunkinA
09-23-2009, 09:35 PM
You can merge North and South Dakota into Dakota to free up a spot for Canada and blend Mexico into Texas as Tex-Mex, presto problem solved.
I never thought about that. In fact do we really need a West Virginia? There isn't even an East Virginia. At this rate we'll even have room for Greenland or Cuba.
SirJac
09-23-2009, 10:56 PM
TBH you'd have to take Canada by force.
ClydeB
09-24-2009, 01:59 PM
Don't ever personally see Mexico being annexed into the U.S. More likely to be just the opposite with la reconquista of Azatlan.
RedIrish
09-26-2009, 11:17 AM
Another crackpot conspiracy theory freefloating around the net...
ElstonGunn
09-26-2009, 11:51 AM
TBH you'd have to take Canada by force.
We tried that already, about 200 years ago. It didn't turn out to well for us, but watch out Canucks. You don't have the King of England backing you up so much anymore.
Don't ever personally see Mexico being annexed into the U.S.
We did that already, too... a hundred and fifty years ago. But we did leave them a third of their country, so it's alright.
I actually think that it's not a bad idea, theoretically, to merge the countries on some level. It's not going to happen, and if someone seriously suggested it, he'd be run out of town on a rail because "'Merca is the best country in the history of the world and every place else isn't worthy of even looking at us and Meskins are bad and Canadians are teh socialist." But there are too many practical factors that make it impossible anyways, since the countries are all run in different ways and have different cultures and priorities.
Prunesquallor
09-26-2009, 12:07 PM
Ew. What a horrid thought.
Malkavia
09-26-2009, 09:56 PM
I think I like it the way things are. The US and Canada? Maybe one day.
Mexico and anyone? I dont think so.
I agree that they have natural resources, but that country is a hot mess right now.
Hamburglar
09-27-2009, 09:37 AM
So is the east side of Los Angeles Malkavia.....Since when is a problem an excuse to throw your hands up in despair and give up?
Malkavia
09-27-2009, 09:42 AM
So is the east side of Los Angeles Malkavia.....Since when is a problem an excuse to throw your hands up in despair and give up?
LA is already a part of the US.
Its our obligation to help them, not Mexico.
RedIrish
09-28-2009, 06:41 AM
The Americans wouldn't want all us socialists up here anyway. And we would insist on keeping our universal health care, liberal unemployment benefits, gay marriage, womens rights in the constitution, legal abortions, subsidized daycare and 12 months materinity leave.
And until the Americans catch up, we really aren't interested in putting in the effort required to fix their country for them.
(Can anybody say World Domination? :::evil laugh:::)
SuperBenjamin
09-28-2009, 07:40 AM
I think this threat is real. Europe did it, what makes you think it can't happen with America mexico and Canada. The main idea is to form 1 currency.
Counterexample: the U.S.S.R. Being physically big doesn't guarantee that it will work.
SuperBenjamin
09-29-2009, 08:03 AM
Counterexample: the U.S.S.R. Being physically big doesn't guarantee that it will work.
The goal is not to prosper the country. If you control the issuing of a nations currency, you literally control the nation.
sfawkes
10-16-2009, 10:58 AM
Up until recently the US and Canada have had an almost EU like border. Although some of the new passport requirements are a step in the wrong direction there are still places where you can drive across the border without being stopped.
I think a completely open border and a shared currency would be great. The Canadian dollar follows the American dollar almost exactly anyway.
AgentofGaming
10-19-2009, 02:54 PM
If Canada wanted to be a part of the US, the Quebecois would have joined the Americans during the revolution; instead they played their part resisting it. Not to mention Canada, at least the English part was born from the Royalists who didn't want to be a part of the USA.
Not to mention if you speak about the civil rights today and government, they have some severe incompatibilities. Examples being the right to bare arms, multiculturalism, healthcare, the Queen and such.
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