What's the most important letter in other people to you?

[Hdier]

For me, it's a close tie between S-N and T-F. However, I'd have to say that S-N wins because S's bug me so much, while I get along with both T's and F's just fine (as they're not particularly lacking in the other letter).

[Danisty]

T-F makes the biggest difference in communication for me, so I would say that's the most important letter.

[anul]

I find extroverts very tiring to be around for long periods of time. They always have to be engaged, like dogs. Then due to social standards if I'm not talkative I'm the one being a dick. Well I disagree, being too talkative should be shunned instead.

[MichaelH]

They always have to be engaged, like dogs. Then due to social standards if I'm not talkative I'm the one being a dick.

Oh, so you've met my ESFP spouse. :)

[pavman]

LOL

I prefer NT's...

Seems like people who are Ps or Ss tend to annoy me... Fs aren't bad, as long as the are NFs...even then its a toss up. Had a girlfriend who was really annoying who was an NF... she had this thing about criticism that really annoyed me.

Although, according to one site, an ENFP is our best mate type (and my experience confirms this), but of course...we're open-minded enough to be with any type :o)

[Tsuru]

"N" all the way, I think.

[Pinkie]

E. I can't be doing with Es. They're all like 'ENTERTAIN ME, ENTERTAIN ME NOW, I HAVE NO MENTAL LIFE'. Well, okay, that's really quite harsh and probably quite untrue, but I just hate the fact that they're effectively sapping my energy and having a great time when we're together as I slump tiredly into a corner.

Hmmmm. I'm quite an extreme I.

[INTJoe]

I think a lot of T's don't have a problem with F's, because F's are pretty easy to get along with.

Personally I think it depends a lot on their extremeness. I think I can get along just fine with borderline E's, and even moderately strong S's, and P's are just fine.

But if one number had to be 100, I'd probably choose for it to not be their F.

I THINK I can deal with a 100 E (hell, they'd never hang around me, anyway) and a 100 S or 100 P. Likely not 100 F.

I demand at least one ounce of logic in everyone I meet! :)

[ssfanatic]

Id have to say the E/I. Im never going to approach you, so if we have any chance of ever being an acquaintance you better come talk to me. I like E's just for short lengths of time.

[robin.]

E. I can't be doing with Es. They're all like 'ENTERTAIN ME, ENTERTAIN ME NOW, I HAVE NO MENTAL LIFE'. Well, okay, that's really quite harsh and probably quite untrue, but I just hate the fact that they're effectively sapping my energy and having a great time when we're together as I slump tiredly into a corner.

Hmmmm. I'm quite an extreme I.I don't think E/I determines that...but I understand where you're coming from, since really high Es can leave me feeling like I can't relate to them.

But I REALLY can't relate to Fs. I don't understand the logic of basing your decisions on feelings, which by their very nature are fleeting and irrational. (Hah and there's my first slip up....assuming that there's any "logic" to be understood...:rolleyes:) BUT I think that healthy Fs are perfectly fine, as long as they understand that feelings, while great, are not to be trusted as the SOLE basis of a decision. I think that an xxFJ would probably do well with this...?

[Antares]

For me, it's a close tie between S-N and T-F. However, I'd have to say that S-N wins because S's bug me so much, while I get along with both T's and F's just fine (as they're not particularly lacking in the other letter).

I agree. I can't really stand it when S types assert that 'it must be this way because hey, it's always been this way' or their attitude 'hey, it's tradition! Respect it!'. They cringe when I question what they've always believed in, and in my parents' case, filial piety. My mother, ISFJ was raving the other day about how one of her client's son is SUCH a good boy and all that. "He would take off his parents' coats for them while smiling very gently, and put it on the back of their chairs. He would help his parents up even when they don't need it, and bring their shoes and slippers to them etc etc." Yes. She had that admiring look about her when she said it, because in Ancient China, and in many parts of modern China now, that's how you are supposed to treat your parents. With absolute respect and reverance. You're not supposed to talk back or question what they tell you to do because guess what? They're your parents. They gave life to you and the least you could do is worship them. Ok. I got a little carried away over my bitterness and perhaps exaggerated. I could easily tell that she wanted me to be like that boy, and when I asked whether she wanted me to be her mindless personal lapdog or daughter, she looked affronted, because *gaspo* I just questioned tradition! It's not like I have a problem with doing things for them, but her description of how I should be came too close to 'servant'. Worst of all, almost every S type I've met told me to comform to the majority!

I don't really have a problem with T or F, but I admit I'll sooner have an ST than an SF. NT and NF get along with me quite well. Thankfully, very few of the F's in my life lack the ability to reason.

[Caramel]

I think dividing people into 1 letter groups is generalizing it a bit too much. Perhaps group them into their dominant functions?

Like: Ne's, Te's, Ni's, Ti's, Fi's.

Dislike: Fe's, Se's.

Indifferent: Si's.

Get along best with xNTx, xNFx and xSTx, worst with ESFx.

[Colette]

For me, it's a close tie between S-N and T-F. However, I'd have to say that S-N wins because S's bug me so much, while I get along with both T's and F's just fine (as they're not particularly lacking in the other letter).

Yes, definitely S/N for me - this is the most significant distinction for me as a strong N, and the area where I most often encounter conflict and/or simple miscommunication, or lack of understanding. The other 3 distinctions pale into insignificance, in comparison with this one, for me.

[thecraig]

I think dividing people into 1 letter groups is generalizing it a bit too much. Perhaps group them into their dominant functions?

Like: Ne's, Te's, Ni's, Ti's, Fi's.

Dislike: Fe's, Se's.

Indifferent: Si's.

Get along best with xNTx, xNFx and xSTx, worst with ESFx.

I agree. It is the functions that tell the most and even then its a bit of a generalization.

[INTJoe]

Worst of all, almost every S type I've met told me to comform to the majority!

Any why not? 65% of people are Sensors. It's in their best interest! :)

[Antares]

Any why not? 65% of people are Sensors. It's in their best interest! :)

Yesyes. I guess we're just exotic ;D I guess it makes sense. If even they are too different from each other, there'd be no majority to comform to.

[Paul V]

For me, it's a close tie between S-N and T-F. However, I'd have to say that S-N wins because S's bug me so much, while I get along with both T's and F's just fine (as they're not particularly lacking in the other letter).

N and I are the most important letters to me, N winning by a nose. I don't care if they're J or P, T or F. But if I have to translate everything I say into "sensing", or endure the incesant "TALK TO ME! LET'S GO OUT! MEET MY FRIENDS! SPEND ALL YOUR TIME WITH ME!" of the extrovert; I'll end up buying poison, putting it in a random cup, and letting luck decide who gets to live.

Oh, so you've met my ESFP spouse. :)

No offense, but... what the hell were you thinking?

[Ace1337]

F and T definitely make the biggest difference, I have a friend thats INFJ and we have different views on almost every topic. We argue all the time. I learn from arguments and conflicts, but he doesn't like them. But that doesn't stop him from arguing with me almost every time we meet. :) It's more of a debate really than an argument.

[caveman]

i don't like extreme T or extreme F, nor do i like extreme Ne.. as for the most important letter, i don't know what to say.. i like more N's than S's while for the T and F i don't have a particular preference as long as they are not extreme and i don't find I preferable over E or J over P and vice versa.. so that would make N the most important i think..

[Zilal]

All the letters can show up in people in very positive and not-so-positive ways. Some of my best friends are extroverts, sensors, feelers, perceivers etc. But I'll go with N since I think I may connect slightly better with other intuitives.

[Hdier]

if I have to [...] endure the incesant "TALK TO ME! LET'S GO OUT! MEET MY FRIENDS! SPEND ALL YOUR TIME WITH ME!" of the extrovert; I'll end up buying poison, putting it in a random cup, and letting luck decide who gets to live.

I have never encountered that problem with extroverts, they have all respected my need for privacy.

On the other hand, I've known a total of two extroverts in my life, and one of them is my mom...

[Wapiti]

N is the most important for me.

[Uytuun]

N. It's my only really high preference. I/T/J are much less pronounced.

[coffeeloverfreak]

I/E is the biggie for me. I find it especially draining to be around extroverts for any length of time, and I also find that, thanks to their outward focus and need for attention, they also tend to be a bit flighty.

T/F also makes a big difference, I think. It can be frustrating for me to have to deal with people who make decisions based on feelings despite being presented with perfectly rational facts. I once had a client tell me that even though a test package outperformed a control package by over 40%, she preferred the control because it just "felt" more like her company's brand in her mind. How do you convince someone of something when they don't listen to rational arguments? Arrgghh!

N/S is less of an issue for me, probably because I'm so close to the middle of that spectrum. I think sensing and intiution are both very important in how we react to the world.

J/P is more a function of the other three letters, of course, so it probably can't be understood the same way.

[Hdier]

T/F also makes a big difference, I think. It can be frustrating for me to have to deal with people who make decisions based on feelings despite being presented with perfectly rational facts. I once had a client tell me that even though a test package outperformed a control package by over 40%, she preferred the control because it just "felt" more like her company's brand in her mind. How do you convince someone of something when they don't listen to rational arguments? Arrgghh!

That's why I'm glad that I'm pretty close to the middle on the T/F scale-not only can I flip from one to the other a lot easier that people with a more extreme T or F, but it's easier for me to argue against both T and F as well.

[PortInStorm]

N/s.

[BlackHawk]

N/S also
This is because it has the greatest effect on the actually thought process of the individual, whereas the other letters are more how he/she expresses it to the world.
I cannot relate much to Ss, because their grounded, one-way thought process just doesn't mesh with my abstract and theoretical thoughts.
I can relate at least on some level to Es, Fs, and Ps, just not the Ss.

[Nightelf]

T is the most important for me, but I prefer NTs relly ;-)

[ElstonGunn]

I'm very strong on the I (100% according to that HumanMetrics test, and almost always above 95% whenever it's quantified). So extraverts can annoy me to no end when they're trying to engage me. But then again, I can't argue one iota with this:

Id have to say the E/I. Im never going to approach you, so if we have any chance of ever being an acquaintance you better come talk to me. I like E's just for short lengths of time.

That's probably the main reason I don't have many friends and have never been on a real date. Well, that, and me just being a crotchety jerk, but people don't know that just by looking at me.

[Antares]

I prefer NT over ST, but ST over NF 0___o SF is my mother, and we can't really get along, haha.

[Femme de Homme INTJ]

Oh, so you've met my ESFP spouse. :)

You are so funny. I can see why you have to come on this forum for yor own sanity!





Femme de Homme INTJ added to this post, 7 minutes and 18 seconds later...

There's a vast sea between the S's and me.

I read that Jung thought the main difference was E/I where Keirsey (or Myers or Briggs or someone) believed that S/N were the single most significant factors. I strongly agreed with the latter, but now I am wondering if it's not simply because I am a strong N.

Perhaps the letter in which a person is strongest will be the toughest for them to cross. On the other hand, I cannot see a strong P or J getting too irritated with each other provided that they don't live together and their other letters aren't opposing. Well, okay, they will irritate one another, yes, but it isn't a relational barrier. P and J are just irritants, not barriers.




(On a side note, I recently read that you ARE supposed to use an apostrophe when you are making a letter plural. I was never quite sure about that. I knew I saw it a lot, but I was never sure what the standard was, so I used the apostrophe when I thought it "looked" good.)





Femme de Homme INTJ added to this post, 8 minutes and 54 seconds later...

F and T definitely make the biggest difference, I have a friend thats INFJ and we have different views on almost every topic. We argue all the time. I learn from arguments and conflicts, but he doesn't like them. But that doesn't stop him from arguing with me almost every time we meet. :) It's more of a debate really than an argument.

OhmyGod! INFJ is not to INTJ as INFP is to INTP!!!!

[Antares]

OhmyGod! INFJ is not to INTJ as INFP is to INTP!!!!

Hey! That's actually true :thumbsup:

[karen]

I am always testing as 100% T and to be honest I just don't get the whole F thing. I mean my husband is an ISFJ and I have to channel ALL of my energy to deal with the F when its in full swing.

[Solaris]

I could tolerate an ST male before I could tolerate an NF male as an SO. In women, it's more about being similar in use of T/F. I have F women friends, but they have well developed T. Best male friends have historically been NTs.

[Femme de Homme INTJ]

Hey! That's actually true :thumbsup:

" 'Actually' true." lol, I sure wonder what your tone of voice was... ;)

[Antares]

" 'Actually' true." lol, I sure wonder what your tone of voice was... ;)

:laugh: Don't 'read' too much into my words. I'm a very literal person when speaking. When I say: "I haven't had chicken soup in four months", 99% of the time it doesn't indicate anything, but people would assume that I want chicken soup. I couldn't figure out a way to say it without sounding sarcastic :irked: I think that's something INTJ's are known for. People can't tell if I'm joking.

When I do use sarcasm, I try to make sure people know it, but there are many times where the line was blurred. Even when I say things like: "Yeah" would cause someone in the room to narrow their eyes at me. I find it hard to voice my affirmation sometimes. Some people find my tone insulting. I feel misunderstood :embarassed:

[INTJoe]

This looks like a "great" opportunity to randomly "quote" words "for" emphasis, when "in" fact, none of "it" makes sen"s"e. :)

[Femme de Homme INTJ]

:laugh: Don't 'read' too much into my words. I'm a very literal person when speaking. When I say: "I haven't had chicken soup in four months", 99% of the time it doesn't indicate anything, but people would assume that I want chicken soup. I couldn't figure out a way to say it without sounding sarcastic :irked: I think that's something INTJ's are known for. People can't tell if I'm joking.

When I do use sarcasm, I try to make sure people know it, but there are many times where the line was blurred. Even when I say things like: "Yeah" would cause someone in the room to narrow their eyes at me. I find it hard to voice my affirmation sometimes. Some people find my tone insulting. I feel misunderstood :embarassed:

I was totally joking. I feigning taking offense.

Sorry, I am like that, too, where people can't tell if I'm being sarcastic. I have to repress my humour a lot because people don't expect it from me and then I have to do a lot of explaining... Which takes the fun out of it. I know what you mean, but I have a harder time making myself clear that I'm joking (especially when writing online, where you almost have to say "I'm j/k.").

Either on this forum or INTP central, I talk about how for years, my husband and I (when we were still dating) were both sarcastic, yet neither one of us was bright enough to see it in the other. It was really pathetic. ;D We both made the same jokes but took each other literally.

[Femme de Homme INTJ]

This looks like a "great" opportunity to randomly "quote" words "for" emphasis, when "in" fact, none of "it" makes sen"s"e. :)

Hey!

Hey, there's no little smiley sticking his tongue out that I can post at you!? There should be!

""""" quote"''' "em"phasis " to piss "you" off! ;D

[Jed3]

Definitely T-F.
I can't stand arguing against irrational people.

[ArchonAlarion]

Well on the human metrics test I'm 33%I, 100%N, 89%T, 1%J

I think N/S is the most important division, T/F is a close second.

I hate when people can't understand metaphors, analogies, or correlations between ideas so S's really piss me off. Fs' irrationality often gets me too.

[Colette]

S/N for me. I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again.

That, to me, is the deal-breaker distinction, in terms of any friendship or relationship I might choose to pursue.

[Darkmist]

NT followed by NF, which I grew up surrounded by and know how to eh, um, I won't use the word manipulate because I never did it intentionally but . . . S's of any type, except ISFJ because that's my mother and she is so easy to turn to my way of thinking. But the others, all . . . ARRRGG!

I am strong and evenly matched in N and T, and only down 11 points on S and F from that and those are evenly matched. Whatever that means, I have a theory.

The world was at relative peace. NF's banded together against NTP's and NTJ's secretly ruled and so on and so forth. Then the aliens came, and all were ST's. Using their athletic bulk and oh so IMPORTANT knowledge of sports scores and beer brands, they assumed that they conquered us. We let them think that so as to study their peculiar behavior. This was followed by an invasion of the other S's who unsuccessfully tried to gather us into their circles by bombarding us with useless guilt trips and transparent cutting wit. We RAN!

We have ever since been in hiding, plotting our return. And they fear us so they shun us . . .

Heh, heh.

[ssfanatic]

That's probably the main reason I don't have many friends and have never been on a real date. Well, that, and me just being a crotchety jerk, but people don't know that just by looking at me.

Oh, my cold demeanor is enough to scare away the people who really dont want to meet me. But im really pretty nice once you get to know me (which few do ;)) I had a very long term relationship, i was forced to ask her out by my friends :thumbsup:

[Desiderata]

But I REALLY can't relate to Fs. I don't understand the logic of basing your decisions on feelings, which by their very nature are fleeting and irrational.

True. Why should someone's feelings constitute an argument? *head against wall*

However, Fe decision-making is based upon putting oneself in other people's shoes and "trying out" the decision from different angles. It's interesting... and useful in a workplace to see where the "fault lines" of people's interests and objectives lie.

[Antares]

I was totally joking. I feigning taking offense.

Haha. What's funny is that I can't hide my sarcasm either. My ENFP friend was going on about how much she thinks that she has this 'connection' with another friend. I tried to sound genuine, believe me. I nodded and smiled, and she just said: "You don't have to act, you know. I know you don't believe me." Maybe it's because she knows me too well to know that her belief isn't 'scientific' enough for me 0___o

Also, isn't it Femme d'Homme INTJ, in French grammar? ;)

[Darkmist]

True. Why should someone's feelings constitute an argument? *head against wall*

However, Fe decision-making is based upon putting oneself in other people's shoes and "trying out" the decision from different angles. It's interesting... and useful in a workplace to see where the "fault lines" of people's interests and objectives lie.

This is so true. Aside from my INTP older brother, my entire close family is composed of F types, so 'putting yourself in someone's shoes' is something I learned from observations to do early on. It's strange because I tend to be disconnected when I do so, but it works and that's what matters. I seem to appear to feel what inside I do not, for my family either doesn't notice the discrepancy or chooses to ignore it in the name of harmony. Often hard to tell with feelers.

[Richard0612]

T/F closely followed by N/S. As many people have said you cannot make a solid judgment based on feelings. Feelings change quickly and it is often difficult to change a plan because someone 'feels different' today. I also find it difficult to relate to most of them because when I say 'Why do you think that this is right?' I get 'Well I feel that it is, therefore it must be'.

N/S is less important [I could get on much easier with an ESTP than an ENFP], however SJs who say that 'We must do this, it's traditional' and will not listen to arguments against said tradition annoy me no end.

[szaxazs]

I seem to be able to talk about quantum mechanics only with N's, and even if I've managed to suggest some articles to Sensors they have quickly lost interest. Quantum physics in general is in my opinion one test with which you can determine whether one is an N or S. The S is more likely to say "This makes no sense" whereas the N will be amazed, especially the first time you talk about the topic.

Also you can only think about quantum mechanics (for now at least).
I mean that T plays an important role too, say 51 N 49 T if I had to choose only one, it's very close but to be honest its really 50-50. I'm fine with someone that can reason (S) but the F's are quite strange. E and I are ok for me, extreme I's are no problem but extreme E's might become one, when they seem to totally stop thinking. J and P is quite indifferent to me, as long as the P knows where their keys or mobile phone are.

[kate]

I have trouble if i'm surrounded by S's. I adore N

[Provoker]

On the other hand, I've known a total of two extroverts in my life, and one of them is my mom...

I doubt it...unless you've lived in the arctic your whole life or some place with an extremely low population density. Or maybe you grew up in a very small town and did home schooling and decided not to join the workforce or ever go out much...in this case it may be possible to only know two extroverts. If not, then you're statement is based on an incorrect analysis.

[malefide]

S/N is also probably the most significant factor in determining the likelihood of whether or not I will get along well with something.

That's not to say I don't get along with S people strictly because of their being Ss.

Extreme E or extreme F is very tiring for me. People who won't or can't use logic are troubling to me. And a complete lack of introspection is annoying. (I know many Es who are very introspective whilst being extraverted). P or J doesn't really matter. But yes, I can say with certainty that extremes disturb me a bit.





malefide added to this post, 1 minutes and 53 seconds later...

I doubt it...unless you've lived in the arctic your whole life or some place with an extremely low population density. Or maybe you grew up in a very small town and did home schooling and decided not to join the workforce or ever go out much...in this case it may be possible to only know two extroverts. If not, then you're statement is based on an incorrect analysis.

I lived/live in the sub-arctic and was homeschooled, and I know tons of extraverts. They're everywhere, of course.

[Samantha]

N is the most important function for me. Most of the time sensors drive me crazy, especially SJs.

[antisocial one]

For me problems are like this

E- no problem I am too introverted so they can`t reach me.

S- their logic is to simple

F- problems whit logic , words can hurt them too easy

P- stronger P is too disorganised for me

[errrzarrr]

is a draw for I/E and T/F.

[ethsar46]

F and P's annoy me the most. Mainly P's though because they are more disorganised and i cant stand people who cant make decisions.

[Mafiaangel180]

F and P's annoy me the most. Mainly P's though because they are more disorganised and i cant stand people who cant make decisions.

Hmmmm...I think I like N's...I just "get" them more. I think...I don't know...I can't decide. I think I do...don't I? lol ;)

[ethsar46]

Hmmmm...I think I like N's...I just "get" them more. I think...I don't know...I can't decide. I think I do...don't I? lol ;)

Yes, just like that :p

[sriv]

The most important letter in others for me is I because since I am only approached by E's I do not get to meet many I's. The few times I do though, I feel very comfortable with them.

[kantsuu]

I prefer NTs. My closest (mutual) friendships are usually with NTs because I can discuss things on a different level with them than I can with most people.

I get along with just about everybody, though, when I'm not being argumentative.

[UziSpray]

As a male ENTJ I prefer the following:

For male friends:
INTJ - 80% of my very, very close friends through life are/were INTJs
ENTJ - the remaining 20%
INTP
ESTJ
ENTP
ISTJ
INFJ
ENFJ
ISTP
ESTP

And the rest I basically cant stand at all.

As for girls, 11 out of 11 of my girlfriends were ENXJs. Mostly ENFJs that border lined on ENTJs.

[Uberfuhrer]

While I prefer an imaginative mind, suggesting a preference for N over S in others, I find that the most effective relationships I've had was with a person who had Fi somewhere in their cognitive processes. I tend to get along really well with xNFP and xNTJ, sometimes INFJ, since we share the same dominant function. My interactions with ISTJs and ISTPs over the Internet (pretty much my only social outlet) were also quite enjoyable, even though ISTP doesn't have Fi. However, ISTP, ISTJ, INTJ, and INFJ share the same Interaction Style, so that could be why ISTP is the one non-Fi exception. I get along okay with ENTPs, too, but not so much INTPs. However, that could mostly be due to the INTPc elitism influx.

[True Rune]

I'm not really interested in other people.. but here goes.
E/I- I don't talk to people, so only when they talk to me do I engage, but I have annoyed a couple people by being especially silent during a car ride so I probably don't mesh well with High E's, I imagine all I's are like me, and don't want to talk to anyone.

S/N - Doesn't bug me at all.
T/F- Irrationality can be annoying
J/P- No preference.

Given things said, I don't really dislike very many people, and only arrogant jerks do I avoid. I'm sort of easy to get along with, they say..

[v2B2]

That's why I'm glad that I'm pretty close to the middle on the T/F scale-not only can I flip from one to the other a lot easier that people with a more extreme T or F, but it's easier for me to argue against both T and F as well.

Yeah, I find that it is an advantage to have an axis that is a bit in the middle (for me also T-F), particularly when "cross-field" interactions gets important nowadays as that is where a lot of "progress" and interesting fields are developing.

The N orientation is the most important for me though...
With -S-J people, I find they are sometimes too regimented and conscientious for me (though I guess INTJs have less of a problem) - so I irritate them (but they make the world go round, literally, and I thank them for it).
With ES-P type, they are the types I really can't talk sense with and they just RATTLE OFF - so they irritate me (but occasionally they are fun to be with, particularly when I just want to switch off and be a bit more spontaneous or nutty)





v2B2 added to this post, 12 minutes and 50 seconds later...

While I prefer an imaginative mind, suggesting a preference for N over S in others, I find that the most effective relationships I've had was with a person who had Fi somewhere in their cognitive processes. I tend to get along really well with xNFP and xNTJ, sometimes INFJ, since we share the same dominant function. My interactions with ISTJs and ISTPs over the Internet (pretty much my only social outlet) were also quite enjoyable, even though ISTP doesn't have Fi. However, ISTP, ISTJ, INTJ, and INFJ share the same Interaction Style, so that could be why ISTP is the one non-Fi exception. I get along okay with ENTPs, too, but not so much INTPs. However, that could mostly be due to the INTPc elitism influx.

Seems like you really dun like INTP? And why INTPc?

[xyedestiny]

The F letter matters the most to me because I think I'll never fully understand what's up with those who act really nice and then all of sudden start to be critical.

[DrEast]

N!! I get along fine with NFs and NTs, but S's of both kinds make me want to back away until I feel safe enough to turn and run.

[brettsnyder]

either E/I or T/F
I'm easy to get along with, but I can't stand the ridiculous outward energy of extraverts for very long
On the other hand, people who can't think rather than just feel emotions bother me quite a bit

[azelismia]

N and I are the most important letters to me, N winning by a nose. I don't care if they're J or P, T or F. But if I have to translate everything I say into "sensing", or endure the incesant "TALK TO ME! LET'S GO OUT! MEET MY FRIENDS! SPEND ALL YOUR TIME WITH ME!" of the extrovert; I'll end up buying poison, putting it in a random cup, and letting luck decide who gets to live.



No offense, but... what the hell were you thinking?

the below is probably a better way of handling it than being random.

Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): All right. Where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): You've made your decision then?
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows, and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Wait til I get going! Now, where was I?
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Australia.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): You're just stalling now.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE POISON IS!
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Then make your choice.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): [Vizzini gestures up and away from the table. Roberts looks. Vizzini swaps the goblets]
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): What? Where? I don't see anything.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter.First, let's drink. Me from my glass, and you from yours.
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): [they drink ]
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): You guessed wrong.
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Vizzini (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): [Vizzini stops suddenly, and falls dead to the right]
Buttercup (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.
Man in Black (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.): They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.


oh I suppose I ought to state my own preference. S/N is hte most important for me. Sensors live in a different universe than I do and never the twain shall meet. I can handle all the other differences but not that one.

[the human iPod]

Overly F can be quite annoying to me, but I hate trying to figure out an S's thought process. So if I had to choose, I would go with the S/N dichitomy.

[Vivid]

Introverts: I get along great with them. =) I don't mind sitting quietly for a few minutes until someone has something to say.

Extroverts: I've had the worst experiences with them. They constantly change the subject. It's okay for a while, but I get tired, fast. I find that more mature extroverts are especially fun to talk to, however.

Sensors/iNtuitives: I have no problem with them.

Thinkers/Feelers: Even though I'm a thinker, I'm more expressive when I'm around feelers. I make an effort to mention how I'm feeling or give praise. It's just easier to communicate that way sometimes. I'm sure other female thinkers can relate to that, since females are often expected to be more expressive.
However, I'm more comfortable being with other thinkers.

Judging/Perceiving: I've yet to have any trouble with either. As long as I'm not living or working with a perceiver, I see no reason why flakiness or messiness would bother me. From my experience with perceivers, they're a lot of fun to be with when you're off work.

[Fej]

Whats the deal with S? lol

Can someone make a list describing the habits, traits, defects, etc of the S?

[phantasma]

It's a tie with S/N and T/F for me.

As for S traits, it usually entails a firmer grip on reality, better with logistics, more able to understand concrete things. Form my personal experience, Sensors really try my patience. They think on a totally different wavelength. They are totally lost on my theoretical thinking and are often closed minded because of it.

[ArchonAlarion]

S's are the kind of people who don't like Lord of the Rings because they "just don't get/care for it"

In other words they mean: "please end my life."

Nah jk. Some dominant Si's can appreciate N things like LOTR, but more because it reminds them of highschool days or the homey merry old england feel they get from the hobbits.

Hobbits are S's. Cept Frodo he's a INFP. Bilbo's an ESxx (he pretended to be an TJ to fit in, but I think he later let loose his FPness). Sam is an ISFJ. Merry and Pippin are ESTP and ESFP, respectively.