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Blacklustre King
01-24-2008, 08:30 AM
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As like all great discoveries this one was but an accident spurred by urgency.

This coincides with my immortality research, the girl depicted in the article above had her liver replaced and the stem cells from that liver invaded her body and transmuted it to many of the traits of the donor.

Through my research I have deduced that this makes it possible for me to “create” what I will call “stems” or “seeds”. This will allow me to transpose my own genetic information on another vessel while allowing it to retain its overall consistency.

As diabolic and amoral as it sounds, this is theoretically possible to maintain my existence indefinitely by planting a “stem” into a new recipient once I reach a point of terminality. This seems to be an only temporary fix for my immortality but it will have to do until I can complete my ultimate research and learn ways to permanently maintain one body.

Assuming I can transplant my “soul” as it were into the new or next body I can maintain my thoughts and memories while overwriting the recipients. This might be a terrible process assuming I do not learn how to create “empty” vessels to transpose my “stems” into. Having a full body gel matrix readily available would be nice as I would only have to graft the stem onto the matrix and allow it to grow under carefully observed conditions.

Assuming stem cells allow one to assimilate otherwise incompatible genetic material I will be able to transpose myself onto almost anything with a working functioning body.

I feel like I’ am sounding more and more like Orochimaru, an antagonist from the anime manga series Naruto with his secretive and immoral practices. His goal is also immortality and ultimately his temporary solution is the same as the one I have come up with.

If this actually worked it would make it possible for me to transpose the “perfections” of other people’s genetics onto my own body, correcting problems and even improving my overall health. Essentially I could take from someone with “the world’s healthiest heart” a small portion of their tissue, mix it with stem cells and inject it.

This opens a wide variety of dangerous and frankly weird applications, assume for a moment you do this with eyes of a wolf. You gain their abilities of night vision and might even retain your ability to see in color.

Ultimately it says that one person can become an infection that will ultimately transpose him or herself on the recipient body. I’ am very interested in seeing exactly how this girl’s life continues, if her very being is not replaced by “his”.

For the moment I will let this discovery fester on the minds of our “scientists” and let them make their conclusion. ;D

pronoia
07-28-2008, 04:55 PM
Is it not more important to understand the process of "memory", (stored logical information supported by experiences) rather than the transfer of biological genetic information, into an enirely new body?

Blacklustre King
07-29-2008, 09:36 AM
That is an excellent observation and still a hurdle I've yet to conquer. Muscle and tissue memory can all be linked to genetics and how you lived your life but really is it?
How often then naught are humans capable of amazing feats they barely remember when pressed.

Then we can assume for a moment reincarnation exists. What if ones "memories" are drawn to a specific pattern of genetic information, resurfacing just like any other recessive genetic anomaly generations later when it is relevant to a life threatening situation.
How would one go about regaining said memories unless presented with a scenario to ignite them?

I believe I answered your question with more questions. Keeps the discussion going I guess... All be it your the first person to respond to this ludicrous idea of mine.

zibber
07-29-2008, 10:37 AM
Super wishful thinking.

Your personality seems to be an emergent property of mostly your brain, and the only feasible immortality scheme I can imagine (with my brain, omg) is to preserve that grey little pudding forever by finding a way to keep the cells renewing.

(This is so going to end up as monists vs. dualists.)

pronoia
07-29-2008, 01:30 PM
In order to successfully further our discussion we must establish a few platform ideas.

These ideas are as the following:

Acknowledge the existence of a spiritual reality.
Understand spirituality as a "credible",observational, science. Unlike religions, academic societies, and other dogmatic belief systems would have us believe differently.
Re-incarnation being defined as: the direct transfer of the soul into a new birthed body. (rejecting the idea of "rippled re-incarnation")
Acknowledge that a form of "amnesia" occurs, which denies/blocks, relevant memory of past physical existence.


Based on these platformed ideas, it is important to understand that reaching immortality can be achieved by following several routes. Two of which come to mind are:

1.Preserve the renewing of cells process within the genetic physical existence(defeat/unwrap the riddle of the aging process), and seek trance meditative routes to discover all past relevant memory. The marriage of these two accomplishments one make one whole with past events and future events.

2.Successfully understand/educate the self of spiritual reality in order to "stop" or remove the amnesia process once reaching a new birth.