NEW Dancer test.

[xhaan]

Which way is this one rotating to you?

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[Firelie]

counter-clockwise

[xhaan]

counter-clockwise

Interesting. :)
You stated counter on the last one too didn't you.
I can change her direction almost at will with this image, when I try to look at it as a whole, she goes clockwise. When I think of the details, like the arc of the shadow (mirror) at the bottom, how the bobbing up and down creates a perceived arc of perspective for me, she goes the other way.

If I really stare at it and zone out, different parts go different ways, or she wavers back and forth.

[Firelie]

It looked like it was going clockwise for a glance when the image was loading (it was loading very slowly), but after that it was all counter again.

[xhaan]

I think I figured out why in the last test I kept assuming 'sidedness' for the legs (and kept buggings stasis about it, I was wrong, but now I know why)

The vertical gap between her raised foot and 'standing' foot, shrinks and grows, as if it has perspective. However, the bobbing up and down, and the 'mirror', is counter intuitive to this effect (and the mirror is just plain wrong, the angle at which her ankle and calf stay at through the image is a red flag to this)

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[Antares]

Which way is this one rotating to you?

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Both.

[Kfbr]

Counter for me

[elsdfr]

When I first looked it was going counter clockwise but now I can't see anything but clockwise.... hmm, I can see counter clockwise if I look at it with left perrifial vision but from the right using perrifial it seems to go back and forth, cool stuff! (bad wiring?? :laugh:)

[xhaan]

When I first looked it was going counter clockwise but now I can't see anything but clockwise.... hmm, I can see counter clockwise if I look at it with left perrifial vision but from the right using perrifial it seems to go back and forth, cool stuff! (bad wiring?? :laugh:)

Heheh, if you look at the second image I posted, that is the exact path she follows... it's interesting to try and pick apart.

I have a hard time with it, because I don't see it as flat, I see a woman in shadow, not just an outline. I sense that depth MUST be present, because it's obviously a woman, and a woman has depth.

Here's the original thread, with the original test (it doesn't have the boxes that I added to it to try and play with the sense of reference)

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[elsdfr]

Haha nice, I've managed to get her going counter clockwise all the time but can't stop it... damn you.

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Oh... well to get her going the other way I was just looking at her head or feet. Head makes it seem clockwise and feet make it the other way I guess thats the reason for your boxes?

[xhaan]

Haha nice, I've managed to get her going counter clockwise all the time but can't stop it... damn you.

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Oh... well to get her going the other way I was just looking at her head or feet. Head makes it seem clockwise and feet make it the other way I guess thats the reason for your boxes?

Yup, there are reference clues in the image, I added the boxes as an aid to get them to stand out.

Check this out:
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Edit:
Basically, if you don't understand what I did, this shows some perspective. Even though she is bobbing up and down, which throws off the perspective, if it were completely ambiguous perspective, the right side of the image would not 'shrink' (or the left side 'grow') like it does, it would simply rise up. So there is perspective there, depending on how you look at it, and I think the bobbing is a technique to make it more neutral.

[Paul V]

Clockwise for me and my best friend.

[xhaan]

Clockwise for me and my best friend.

I think most people will initially see it as clockwise.
IMO, it's a flawed example. It definitely uses trickery to try to cover up that fact, but I think people see through that.

[Paul V]

Wow. Counter-clockwise at this very moment.

[xhaan]

She stopped spinning for me.
Now she 'dances' to the left and right, which is what I'm starting to believe she actually does.

It appears 'physically impossible', her 'left and right' limbs jump sides back and forth. (to me)

[OneBadMother]

Counterclockwise, consistently so.

[BadMojo]

I think I figured out why in the last test I kept assuming 'sidedness' for the legs (and kept buggings stasis about it, I was wrong, but now I know why)

The vertical gap between her raised foot and 'standing' foot, shrinks and grows, as if it has perspective. However, the bobbing up and down, and the 'mirror', is counter intuitive to this effect (and the mirror is just plain wrong, the angle at which her ankle and calf stay at through the image is a red flag to this)

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Actually. if I look at that picture and imagine that she's turning the other way, and then look at the rotating image again. I can make her go counter clockwise. I normally see her go clockwise. But once I make her go the other way, I can make her go back to CW unless I disrupt my focus.
Weird !

[Paul V]

Clockwise, scrolled down, scrolled back up, counter-clockwise. That ditz is messin' with mah mind.

[danalaina]

clockwise.

[1OFMANY]

Wow..with this image I can percieve it either direction at will.

[Solaris]

Counter-clockwise. How did you guys see clockwise, I tried and I can't even almost get that to happen.

[1OFMANY]

Counter-clockwise. How did you guys see clockwise, I tried and I can't even almost get that to happen.


Just focus on the bottom foot and when it is in-line with itself, flip the direction and look up :)

[Firelie]

Just focus on the bottom foot and when it is in-line with itself, flip the direction and look up :)

Wow, that actually worked! I had to start at the bottom and slowly make my way up, otherwise she'd snap back to the way I first see her. She only spun clockwise for about 5 seconds after I got the whole figure in, though, before she switched back to counter-clockwise halfway through a rotation. Trippy.

[1OFMANY]

[QUOTE=Firelie;33863]Wow, that actually worked! QUOTE]


Thats why we are at this forum. We speak the same lingo :)

[Solaris]

Wow, that actually worked! I had to start at the bottom and slowly make my way up, otherwise she'd snap back to the way I first see her. She only spun clockwise for about 5 seconds after I got the whole figure in, though, before she switched back to counter-clockwise halfway through a rotation. Trippy.


Seconded. Weird.

[Zilal]

I cannot "make her" go any way other than clockwise! Someone get me a more cooperative dancer.

[Solaris]

I cannot "make her" go any way other than clockwise! Someone get me a more cooperative dancer.

I had to cover up all but the foot with my hand and stare at the heel for a minute for this to work. Even then, the "new" direction only last several seconds.

[1OFMANY]

If you have to cover the rest thats ok. Just stare at the foot until the moment when it covers itself, whatever direction she appears to be rotating, reverse it. Once you "see" it reversed ( her foot) slowly focus upwards maintaining that same perspective.

[robin.]

I can only see clockwise, even using the trickery that people have recommended. I honestly cannot see how anyone could see counter-clockwise.

What's the point of this? Is there a "correct" direction? Does it mean anything in particular if you see her going one way or the other?

[thegnat]

Either way at will. a bit more stubborn to go counter- though.

[Antares]

Change at will... To me, it's quite easy. No concentration required.

[curiousjane]

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Please see Right Brain, Left Brain (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) for the original test.