INTJ - Feel the same way?

[miaow]

Not sure how to explain it, my parents laughed when i told them this.

A few years back i was nearing my exams and parents asked me why am i not revising or working hard. I answered back saying that i didnt feel i need to, because i feel like i already know it.

Anyone feel the same way.

Its kind of hard to explain but im not being arrogant, i feel i know everything the school already teaches.. instead of going school i could have found out everything by reading online articles. The rest is just storing it into memory.

Anyway the other reason i didnt revise was because i was addicted to gaming online. I still am infact but its more Addiction to being online more than anything. I want to study Comp Sci at uni and was wondering if anyone is in the same position.

Im intellectual but lazy at the same time becuase of the mindset im in. Sorry if i sound really arrogant, i dont mean to be.

[Pinkie]

No, I get that too. I'm just about to have my semester one exams and I'm not really revising for one module because I know it all and have understood it all since the start of the year. You are not alone!

[deicruxified]

Im intellectual but lazy at the same time becuase of the mindset im in. Sorry if i sound really arrogant, i dont mean to be.

my mom has always told me i'm intelligent but lazy lol...

i just don't get the point of memorizing stuff just to pass... i have a different pov on learning and it's not always the books for me. i find bookish learning boring unless the topic is of my interest.

[Oica]

If I know the topic, I don't fe--... I won't do any assigned work directed to 'teach' you or 'test your skills.' If I know what the topic is, I will use it in my own time IF I'm interested in using it.

But start a survey, how many INTJs are repeatedly told (especially in education) that they are "smart but lazy."

Ive been told this since elementary school.

[xhaan]

But start a survey, how many INTJs are repeatedly told (especially in education) that they are "smart but lazy."

Ive been told this since elementary school.

So was I, and I went through the whole "I already know everything they teach" thing, too.
Now, however, I wish I had done the repetition anyway, to have it more 'embedded' in my mind if nothing else, because I have now forgotten a lot of things I never used... up until the point came that I finally NEEDED to use it, then I go "oh crap" and start googling to find the solution, like a while back I actually forgot to use order of operations in math (e.g. 2 + 2 x 2 = 6, and NOT 8)

[1OFMANY]

What online game do you play? I have played one myself like a crack fiend for about 5 years now..I think its time to give it up lol.

[edalz]

I totally felt like I already knew everything in high school (and mostly I did, except some of the good math and science stuff). Although I still feel that way about some of my college courses, it was a real shock my first semester to actually have to put in any effort at all. I felt completely overwhelmed, and like I was working at my full capacity, but even then I had no idea what I was capable of. The stress was horrible for a while, but eventually I figured out how to study. I guess I just want to say that it's easy to be led into a false sense of security at the high school level if the standards at the school are low enough, and maybe keep it in mind that if you go to a good university they will, hopefully, challenge you more than you've ever been challenged. (sorry if that was sort of long/preachy)

[Br3nti5]

I get that feeling alot in school - it always felt to slow, and a waste of time. It used to always piss my teachers off because i'd always score really high on quizzes, and exams but rarely do/turn in my homework.

As sad as it is to say i have learned from the many hours of being in detention with the teachers, and being able to talk to them on my level then I ever did in there actual class....or through my local library/internet/various study groups.

[Aldanga]

Mmhmm. I love school, but I hate how I'm supposed to learn. All the memorizing is pointless to me. I'd rather read stuff on my own and form my own opinions--such as President Lincoln being possibly the worst President of the 19th century--than eat all this crap I'm fed.

Still, I am slightly disappointed that I haven't memorized more. I'm thinking most of what I haven't learned, being history, I'll hit up before college and into it. I'm thinking of a second major being Political Science. That would cover most of what I don't know.

[Andrey]

:thumbsup:
... instead of going school i could have found out everything by reading online articles. The rest is just storing it into memory.


At the beginning of school year, I've been always fastinated by getting new books. I generaly spent several days on just getting through them and finding/reading interesting things in them. I've always liked to see and learn new stuff, while preffering to get into very deeply and REALLY understand it. However, I used to miss classes, projects deadlines, homework often. It was very borring to read book you HAVE TO. I feel like I need inspirartion to do whatever I do; I can not do well what I'm ordered and scheduled to do.

For people around it looked as I was lazy and unresponsible, while very talented. They have never saw my actual work and thought this all was given me by havens and I was just gaving away this gift.

As a result, I had just good (not high) GPA (in both high school and college), while winning many school, city, and region-level academic competitions. Later on, did perfect career (compared with smartest classmates with highest GPA) and do my MBA in top business school now.

I still feel overhealmed by all academic work, schedules, and dealines, while missing classes and homework as I've usually done :)

[Laura_Palmer]

In high school I stopped doing all that was needed to get the highest grade in a class and instead only did what I felt was necessary. This sometimes still resulted in getting an A, but sometimes not. I guess I just felt that grades do not really measure what a person knows and I refused to buy into the system completely. I feel like I don't have to prove myself by getting the highest grades. I just do what I think is necessary and spend the extra time on other things that are more important than studying.

[ankeshkothari]

Have been called "smart but lazy" by so many people!

I find pointless repetition boring. Thats why in school - I always studied last minute. Study a few hours before a test and everything stays fresh, you ace the exam, and no boring repetitions needed.

[gallihand]

Oh the loathing/admiration my math based classes must have had for me. "You've got to start doing the homework." "Why? I can figure out the answer in less time than it takes you to go over the problem." "You just do!" :confused:

[karen]

You know... I have often wondered about being called arrogant. Maybe we should start taking it as a compliment. The word seems to mean that you are able to meet a challenge and you know it. Is that so bad? I'm arrogant. I don't put other's down, I don't feel the need to brag or sell myself to others, I don't pretend to know something I don't understand. I am arrogant and I will wear that title proudly.

[Aldanga]

Have been called "smart but lazy" by so many people!

I find pointless repetition boring. Thats why in school - I always studied last minute. Study a few hours before a test and everything stays fresh, you ace the exam, and no boring repetitions needed.

QFT.

[AresX9]

Have been called "smart but lazy" by so many people!

I find pointless repetition boring. Thats why in school - I always studied last minute. Study a few hours before a test and everything stays fresh, you ace the exam, and no boring repetitions needed.

Indeed. That's what I do, and I usually ace tests that only require memorization. Once I read something regarding the subject that the test is on, everything else just falls back into place.

[Sylvanus]

If I know the topic, I don't fe--... I won't do any assigned work directed to 'teach' you or 'test your skills.' If I know what the topic is, I will use it in my own time IF I'm interested in using it.

But start a survey, how many INTJs are repeatedly told (especially in education) that they are "smart but lazy."

Ive been told this since elementary school.

Sounds like me. In elementary school we got two grades for each subject, one for the work you accomplished, and one for effort. I always got high scores for accomplishment, and really low scores for effort. In fourth grade I really stopped trying because school was so boring, and both grades plummeted. Every parent-teacher conference it was always the same thing "...smart but lazy...". I would "check out" during class because the material was so boring, I would sleep or read or whatever. The grades on my assignments sucked, but I would ace the tests.

At first it was a problem of the work not being challenging enough or that we had learned it a long time ago and we were reviewing it for the 5th time. Later on I was bored because I had either learned the material outside of class years earlier (history, science), or I had already figured it out (math, english and science).

Case in point: A year ago I got into economics for a little while. At first it was really interesting, I learned some new and counterintuitive concepts. But the more I read, the more it felt "the same", even if it was a new concept to me. I had already "connected the dots" and had figured out that given these initial given premises, then all this other stuff must be true. Suddenly all these books I had bought had already been read before I even opened them.

[dandylion]

I've never felt challenged by school even though I'd take the honors, advanced, or AP courses. I used to be one of those people who used to get straights A's all the time, but now I couldn't care less. I rarely study or make an effort to do anything, but I still do pretty well in school because I absorb knowledge like a sponge. Grades aren't important, and they sure as hell don't accurately reflect my abilities.

And I agree with you on being able to learn everything from the internet. Everything's there... you just have to look for it. And it's free. Once I googled how to open a stubborn glass jar... there was a tutorial. It worked. Heh. I use the technique I found there all the time now.

[MetalWounds]

Wow...this really explains all the "very intelligent but doesn't apply himself at school" reviews. It wasn't challenging so I just went through the motions, did none of the homework, aced all the tests and passed.