Do you like war games?

[Paragon]

This shows the difference between MBTI groups who play war games.
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As you can see, war games is highly popular among INTJs.

Personally I like strategy games such as Red Alert and Black And White.

What games do you like?

[xhaan]

Red Alert, Warhammer 40k (inc. Winter Assault and Dark Crusade)
Haven't played many others that I remember.

[Gavisi]

Advance Wars. Haven't played any other war games.

[quizicsr]

I've played war games with some lovers a couple of bosses. Depending upon what might be considered as a victory, I won with the lovers and lost with the bosses.

[xhaan]

I've played war games with some lovers a couple of bosses. Depending upon what might be considered as a victory, I won with the lovers and lost with the bosses.

Haha, If I can annoy the hell out of the opponent, I feel victorious, whether I won or lost. Like building bases all over the place and harassing them to keep their attention fixed on one area... and next thing they know, my turrets have creeped up into their base, then they say "no, I can't have this", but while they're destroying those, I'm off doing something else sneaky.

What's also fun in RA, is when you can pull off an infantry rush at the very start of the game.. it's hard to do and usually means your opponent is not well matched to you, but it's funny to see a bunch of tiny guys run over and demolish their base before they can even start it. >:D

[Oica]

Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2, great fun. Too bad the AI only went soo far. on both TS and RA2, you can literally wait out the enemy. Eventually (usually after a few hours) the enemy stops producing units unless they are down 1 from their standard patrol. AI would not capture oil derricks as a primary resource, ai did not usually infantry with IFVs, the list goes on. Mods can fix some of them.

I only got to play RA2 online a few times. Its fun to poke and prod the other side. :D

[thecraig]

I play any time of wargam/strategy game I can get my hands on. My biggest problem with board game type wargames is finding an adequate challenger.

[xhaan]

Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2, great fun. Too bad the AI only went soo far. on both TS and RA2, you can literally wait out the enemy. Eventually (usually after a few hours) the enemy stops producing units unless they are down 1 from their standard patrol. AI would not capture oil derricks as a primary resource, ai did not usually infantry with IFVs, the list goes on. Mods can fix some of them.

I only got to play RA2 online a few times. Its fun to poke and prod the other side. :D

RA does it too, in skirmish play at least. If you can hold off the waves, it will just build and build, and eventually build itself in and just give up. It does that in Warhammer 40k too, which is HILARIOUS to watch, you'll see the enemy base and it will be just jam packed to the gills with stuff, and will have infantry and tanks sitting there, doing nothing, or trying to move back and forth as if wanting to get out of the base but not sure how to.

Sometimes I like to keep the AI on 'life support', just letting it keep enough stuff to try and fight back, but smack down whatever it produces... eventually it seems to only make a token effort after a while, it almost seems like it gets depressed, though that's just a side effect of myself owning nearly all the resources on the map. :laugh:

[yondyr]

Visiting a friend, he set me up in one room with him in another with linked computers to play Starcraft or some such. I said gimme time to learn what everything does, but before I'd even absorbed the rules he attacked - course I got trashed. The End.

[Kfbr]

We played Starcraft a few nights ago, took me back to Junior High.

The first game was 3v3.. then it was a 4v2 then they all ganged up on me..

I admit, I got cocky at the 5v1, but I took three of them down before they got me :D

I like Protoss and they thought they got my strategy each time. The second game they were ready to shoot down my carrier fleet with scourges and valkyries but oh crap.. those can't attack the massive amounts of zeolots that were pillaging their bases :laugh:

[1OFMANY]

Red Alert, Warhammer 40k (inc. Winter Assault and Dark Crusade)
Haven't played many others that I remember.

OMG..I love that game.
I am a huge fan of RTS games as well Red Alert, TS, Empire Earth, etc.

[King K]

I love Command & Conquer games, such as Red Alert, Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun, unfortunately the AI in TS is a bit unchallenging, and yeah, the AI in RA2 will eventually stop making units, but I think that this is fixed in the Yuri's Revenge expansion, the AI is more intelligent and will use superweapons in other places that are not the war factory.

Empire Earth and StarCraft are awesome games too.

[AresX9]

Absolutely dig RTSs when they're done right. World in Conflict is this year's best RTS, bar none.

[xhaan]

I love Command & Conquer games, such as Red Alert, Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun, unfortunately the AI in TS is a bit unchallenging, and yeah, the AI in RA2 will eventually stop making units, but I think that this is fixed in the Yuri's Revenge expansion, the AI is more intelligent and will use superweapons in other places that are not the war factory.

Empire Earth and StarCraft are awesome games too.

They are really fun games, I never did care much for the 'harvesting' in RA though. It does make it interesting, and fun, but it's a pain in the ass to watch out for your harvesters, which have inherently retarded AI... I don't know whether to protect them and keep them from going straight to the enemy base, or kill them myself for being stupid. The inverse is quite fun however, when you can 'own' the opponent by trashing their harvesters, and making them really frustrated and panicked.

Though it gets interesting when you have some really fierce attrition going on from both sides, you keep slaughtering eachother so much that even an extra pea-shooting infantryman in your attack formation can tip the scales at times... brutal slaughter can be so much fun, it's frightening. ;D

[RoqueBear]

Unfortunately, it seems that quite a few of the strategy games all fall within the war games spectrum.

I typically play Warcraft 1-3 and Star craft.

If I could find an appealing multi-player Non war real time strategy game, I'd definitely give it a shot.

[Aldanga]

I don't play 'war games' per se. Rather, I play very strategic games of Halo 2/3 (I love CtF, Territories and other objective game types) and Rainbow Six: Vegas. I loved AoE 2, but it got old for me because I didn't ever want to continue a game. Part of that had to do with our crappy eMachine I had to use. Blech. Thankfully, I'm probably going to order an 8800GT(S) in the next few months. That'll make me happy for a long time.

[xhaan]

I don't play 'war games' per se. Rather, I play very strategic games of Halo 2/3 (I love CtF, Territories and other objective game types) and Rainbow Six: Vegas. I loved AoE 2, but it got old for me because I didn't ever want to continue a game. Part of that had to do with our crappy eMachine I had to use. Blech. Thankfully, I'm probably going to order an 8800GT(S) in the next few months. That'll make me happy for a long time.

What I find interesting is, games like these could be very strategic and tactical, but they generally aren't because hardly anyone wants to really work as a team... a lot of people want to stand out, and do their own thing, and will go so far as to say "Hey! That was MY kill!"

And I think: "Well gee, excuse me for helping and covering your ass. Next time I'll just wait and see if he kills you first, and THEN take the kill, after you softened him up for me."

[Kingmannie]

This is unreal, i love games, I'm a games writer and programmer.

Strategy is my favorite category and i would advise anyone with the same interest to try out Rome Total War

Great game

[justintj]

Unreal Tournament, Sniper Elite, Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor Allied Assault. I like the gameplay, but playing the quick-action ones sometimes makes me sick (literally).

[AresX9]

This is unreal, i love games, I'm a games writer and programmer.

Strategy is my favorite category and i would advise anyone with the same interest to try out Rome Total War

Great game

The Total War series is THE definition of a strategy game, bar none.

[Vortex]

SupCom/FA is the strategy game for me. Less micro, more global perspectives. I also throughly enjoy tactical shooters like Stalker, Team Based Halo, GRAW (if it didn't suck)... You get the idea.

[Aldanga]

What I find interesting is, games like these could be very strategic and tactical, but they generally aren't because hardly anyone wants to really work as a team... a lot of people want to stand out, and do their own thing, and will go so far as to say "Hey! That was MY kill!"

And I think: "Well gee, excuse me for helping and covering your ass. Next time I'll just wait and see if he kills you first, and THEN take the kill, after you softened him up for me."

Yeah. I know. My best friend and I play a lot of Halo. He used to get all pissed at me for taking all his kills. Eventually we learned enough about each other so that we knew when the other guy needed help and didn't steal kills.

Most of the pricks are just idiots. I think the same as you most often. "So I should let you die first? That sounds smart..."

[amXDuser]

Prefers Supcom and FA
(ah I see a fellow supcomer)
FPS like Half-Life series and CS:Source seems to drain me.

[xhaan]

Yeah. I know. My best friend and I play a lot of Halo. He used to get all pissed at me for taking all his kills. Eventually we learned enough about each other so that we knew when the other guy needed help and didn't steal kills.

Most of the pricks are just idiots. I think the same as you most often. "So I should let you die first? That sounds smart..."

Yup, i totally understand that, is just that in a team scenario, you help the team, at all times, whether it's "needed" or not. :p

Though I've done the same as you, I can tell with people I play with and against often, when they 'need help' and when they don't. but two people shooting at one guy takes out that guy faster, and is better for the team, especially in games where who wins the round is what counts, and points are only for your fragrate, which is not a good indicator of how often you win.

[Over]

I have a problem with games.
I install a game, and in 5 minutes i can see what this game is about, how the game will end, what are the main values at end-game, what new stuff will I see while i play, what are the mechanics of this game, what are the key points to succeed, what were map designers thinking and how will further maps look like, where to find goals, I can keep listing, but I find it boring.
So my problem with games is: I get bored of it in first level. Not becouse the game is bad in any way, but simply becouse I KNOW WHAT IS WAITING FOR ME.
Sometimes I wish I could switch off my "N" witch can see patterns well enough to ruin gaming experience and turn on "S" witch I dont have at all.

[AgentofGaming]

I don't know why, but I've always felt FPS is a bit mindless. However a weird example is me playing Counter-Strike to organize clans and people. I turned my FPS into a game of managing people.
Strategy is definitely my favourite and next favourite would be RPGs (not the button bashers though). For RPGs I always play Wizard/Mage class, because spells are more selective than physical combat options usually.
I've been enjoying these:
C&C
Simcity
Civilization
Paradox Games (Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, Victoria <- complex enough to scare away everyone I know, but I loved it)
Total War
Neverwinter Nights
Alpha Centauri
Galactic Civilizations
Europa 1400
Railroad Tycoon
Age of Empires

[Capt57]

For RPGs I always play Wizard/Mage class, because spells are more selective than physical combat options usually.


Are there any new RPGs that let you 'pause' before combat. I loved that about the older games because it gave you time to really plan out the attack. I don't always care for real-time.

[drek996]

blowing shit up, killing, overwhelming or excessive force, destroying enemies, and conquering all...What is not to love?

and I play every kind

[Tokey41]

I think Command and Conquer games are the most enjoyable, from the original Red Alert to Yuris Revenge. Although I really disliked their latest: Tiberian Sun 3. I think mainly because of the graphics themselves and I just felt it was kind of boring because the missions seemed to take longer than they should have.

The only noteworthy addition I see from others is that you can set both the difficulty and 'style' of AI that your facing (one who builds up a huge army to attack, one who quickly rushes you, etc) the great part about that is you can randomize it and not know what style of attack they will use.

Also tried out Battle for Middlearth 2 recently and thought it was great, I love the thought of building an army of giant trees throwing boulders to kill people.

[Capt57]

Mongol General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
Mongol General: That is good

[INTJ326]

Europa Universalis II. I've learnt a lot about history and geography from playing that game. I'd recommend it.

[AgentofGaming]

Are there any new RPGs that let you 'pause' before combat. I loved that about the older games because it gave you time to really plan out the attack. I don't always care for real-time.

Check out Bioware. Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR are wonderful. There's also Jade Empire and that space one for XBOX360 that I can't remember the name of now. However the sequels that Obsidian made for them give somewhat of a less satisfactory feel. Anyways all of those let you plan it out. I like RPGs that are so good that when you finish you feel like saying 'that was a masterpiece'.
I don't think Fable, Dungeon Siege or Titan Quest let you pause though but they're okay (sometimes DS1 feels like a mindless one way road). I dislike the Diablo types they're too much about smashing things, running and dying and clicking your mouse a lot of times.

I think Command and Conquer games are the most enjoyable, from the original Red Alert to Yuris Revenge. Although I really disliked their latest: Tiberian Sun 3. I think mainly because of the graphics themselves and I just felt it was kind of boring because the missions seemed to take longer than they should have.

Anything made by EA often is meant to appeal to the masses not the core strategy gamers or is a cheap rip of a previous game with the year incremented by one. (Not to mentions Sims expansion packs :rolleyes:)
However at least if you want a quick skirmish game you can play through them in about 15 minutes. Civilization 3 with my brothers takes like days (I mean with no school too).

Europa Universalis II. I've learnt a lot about history and geography from playing that game. I'd recommend it.

Yep, when in Gr. 8 I almost knew more history than my teacher. You'll know the explorers, monarchs, and especially the Geography (in which terrain that influenced major battles).
If you like something more complex than EU2, go for Victoria, resource management, political parties, army reformation, research, reforms, import/export and more in real time (but obviously I'd need to pause to handle it). Victoria is probably the hugest games I played in terms of complexity, I like this game more than any other for that :rolleyes:.

[dandylion]

I had to laugh when I saw how high INTJ was on that chart. Geez.

But yes, I do love war games although I've only played like one, really--Ages of Empires I and III. I guess that's two, but it seems like one because they're kind of in the same series. I derive great pleasure from killing, destroying stuff, conquering territories and people, knocking down buildings, etc. so I play Ages of Empires III whenever I have violent tendencies. I should probably look into other, more challenging war games when I have time...

My brother's an INTJ also, and he used to play war games like Red Alert, World of Warcraft or Starcraft or whatever "-craft" it was, and other things I can't name at the top of my head when he was a teenager.

[xhaan]

Mongol General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
Mongol General: That is good

That's me in Dark Crusade :devilish:

Except it's more like "I will crush you!!" but then I retreat and lead them to a rally point where I mow them down with fresh reinforcements, then I chase them back to their base and wreck stuff along the way, start killing their LP's and structures til something else comes out, then I let them chase me but suddenly split off a squad or two to finish off their LP and capture it before they can change course and defend it, or I send them to wreck buildings again... then I send them off to do something else or rejoin my forces and attack them again. (all the while building things and capturing more req)

I play IG, BTW, which is like a bazillion guys with flashlight guns haha! Each individual is weak, but also expendable, and can be really powerful when massed and having a leader like Commisars which can execute a unit to make the rest fight harder, or priests which increase health regen, make the troops more brave and has the ability to make them immune to all damage temporarily. Not to mention some nice vehicles (not the strongest in the game, but still awesome if used properly)

And Basilisks. Earthshaker rounds. They're expensive as hell for a single shot, but you can always get more and can use them with impunity if you have map and resource control... each one is like a mini air strike, though if you get to where you can use them like that, you're probably already winning anyway.

And the Baneblade... which is like, one of the ultimate vehicles in the game, but if you're getting it in real games.. something is wrong. :p It's the highest tech, games are usually won way before you even think about getting it.

IG also has bunkering and tunnels, for most buildings, if a squad or techpriest is being shot up, you can stick them in a building and they will shoot out from it... making them like a heavily armored turret, and they can 'tunnel' between buildings. If you have a forward base, you can send your guys from all over the map to and from it, through the tunnels, and even Listening Posts act as bunkers, so it's like whenever you build one, you get another tunnel to somewhere else, and another multipurpose turret... can have techpriests pop a LP, even under fire (they're relatively tough, for builders, and they can fight) then once it's up, suddenly a squad pops out of it, and a techpriest goes inside to act as an instant turret while you wait for the LP to finish upgrading to having an actual gun on it.

[quixotic]

I played competitive Halo and Halo 2 (to a much lesser extent) during the end of my high school years and throughout my college years. The sad thing was that I would have loved to devote more time to it if I hadn't been in school, but I made a conscious choice to focus on school rather than video games.

The thing is, I could have made some pretty decent money playing Halo. Before moving to college in the fall of 2003, I had made about $4,000 dollars playing in tournaments and whatnot. My freshman year of school I made about double that, mostly from regional and local tournaments. Ah, the good old days...

[Avenger]

Hearts of Iron II anyone?

It might be the ultimate strategy game out there, and I love it.

[AgentofGaming]

Hearts of Iron II anyone?

It might be the ultimate strategy game out there, and I love it.
I like it.
However I feel it didn't give enough economic control, that's why I preferred Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun.

[Ace1337]

I love the CIV series, I've played CIV3 Conquest with every nation in the game, best strategy ever, imo

[AgentofGaming]

I love the CIV series, I've played CIV3 Conquest with every nation in the game, best strategy ever, imo
Do you play aggressive? I dislike those warmongers who are unadvanced but have hordes of hundreds of swordsmen. Several divisions of muketeers were obviously now enough to hold them back. They are the stack of doom.

[Ace1337]

I usually play a culture win, huge country with high culture and only one unit on a city, I hate barbarians when you leave them to breed, and then u have 20 conscript horseman attacking your tank :))))
Best Civ is Japan, faster building temples for culture and barracks for army, they are invincible and the Celts are awesome too, the Gallic Swordsman is my favourite unit, he moves fast like a horse and beats the hell out of a regular Swordsman

[DeadSpace]

SupCom and C&C 3 Tiberium Wars for RTS i've managed to keep the longest. I play everything with the exception of sports titles (am rabid gamer) BioShock only fps installed (hoping for an expansion) SH4, nothing like a good sub sim :)

[AgentofGaming]

Whenever I play I turn off culture win. It happens too fast, I like the tech win.
I use technology + defensive so I usually play Greece.
Maybe Persia if I wanted to play technology + offensive.

Barbarians don't come in super stacks for me unless it's those barbarians entering your border messages.