Alcohol and the INTJ

[MetalWounds]

I was just wondering, how much the INTJ community drinks. And furthermore why do you drink?

[Tsuru]

I drink alcoholic-style (alone, heavily) when I'm in a particularly foul mood and don't care to be burdened by consciousness for awhile. Not particularly a healthy thing to be doing I'm sure, but I only do it maybe 6-7 times a year so I figure it can't be all that awful a thing relative to the average young man's approach on the subject. :P

I don't drink at all besides that, since I really hate the taste of alcohol, and don't do social drinking. I think largely due to paranoia of having lowered defenses amongst the rabble (teehee) due to decreased cognitive capacities and inhibitions. D:

...Jeez. I don't sound like a well adjusted person here, hehe. XD

[Firelie]

I drink when I got out with friends, which usually happens only every 2 or 3 months.

[quentin]

My drinking has increased heavily in the past year, and one of the main reasons is that my best friend is an alcoholic and so we get drunk together very regularly. Thank god I don't have a girlfriend who's a drunk as well or I'd be drinking all the time.

When I drink, it's for either one of two reasons:

1) It enhances my enjoyment of music/movies. I usually drink alone or with my best friend when I do this, because I can control exactly what's playing on my stereo. There's nothing worse than being forced to someone else's crappy taste in music when you're drunk. Dumb & Dumber low-brow Hollywood comedies are immensely funny when you're drunk, but would probably bore me silly if I were sober.

2) Social skills in a bottle. Unless it's a small party of a select handful of close friends, I generally feel uncomfortable in social situations. Especially huge groups of people at a big party. Drinking enables me to fit in and feel comfortable in a crowd. Unfortunately, I can overdo the drinking and make an ass of myself.

I know that I really need to cut down on the drinking. It's counterproductive. I should push myself to learn how to be more social without the crutch of drinking. Also, the next day I have to deal with the hangovers and a hangover can totally write off an entire day. That's not good, losing an entire day's productivity because you're too hungover to do anything.

I also hate, hate the taste of alcohol. That's one reason I can't drink in moderation: I only drink to get drunk. Drinking "just to have a beer" makes no sense whatsoever to me. If I only have a couple of drinks I feel sick and queasy. I only start enjoying alcohol when I start to get drunk. I have a wine allergy, so red wine is out. Any sort of hard liquor smells and tastes so foul it triggers a vomit response. So I stick strictly to beer, as long as it's not too strong (I prefer light to dark beers), since it's smooth and goes down easy and doesn't make me feel too sick in the morning.

[MetalWounds]

Interesting, I would say I drink quite heavily, however, most of my friends drink as much as me. Alcohol use is sort of a culture within the military community so most people have no problem with moderate/heavy drinking. Being an Intj, I am inherently at a disadvantage in social situations so alcohol helps me to loosen up a bit and have some more fun. Mostly it just helps relieve me from the reality of life for a little while. (as dysfunctional as that may be)

[AntimonyLegault]

When I drink, my "judging" architecture gets a tweak that some people don't find user-friendly...

[Seven]

I was just wondering, how much the INTJ community drinks. And furthermore why do you drink?

I have wine on occassion with dinner or after work with friends. I drink it because I enjoy a good pinot noir now and then.

[Booko]

Well, I said never, though I wouldn't agree that it's "counterproductive."

I don't drink for religious reasons. If that wasn't an issue, I'd have some nice bordeaux with dinner occasionally and that would be it. Oh, I would use wine in cooking for some recipes.

There are still valid medicinal uses for alcohol, and if my doctor prescribes it for me I'll use it as instructed.

[Caramel]

I drink at social events, but only when I feel like it. It helps with shutting off the overanalyzing brain.

[Paul V]

I don't drink. I've never gotten drunk, and I plan on staying that way. I am very concerned with what might happen to me should I lose control. The possibilities terrify me.

[Vayate]

I'll drink once in a very long while, usually if I'm spooked and need to chill out. Don't care for the taste of alcohol, and the stuff just makes me tired.

[vulcan]

I don't drink. I've never gotten drunk, and I plan on staying that way. I am very concerned with what might happen to me should I lose control. The possibilities terrify me.

wow.

you only live once man.

[Ryokurin]

I don't drink. I've never gotten drunk, and I plan on staying that way. I am very concerned with what might happen to me should I lose control. The possibilities terrify me.

I used to be the same way, until I just learned that in reality I just didn't really know myself and was afraid of figuring it out.

Anyhow, I do drink, but usually socially. Its typically is just beer and light alcohol. I don't really care for the hard drinks and I don't keep up with the names anyways. I know my limits so I rarely get drunk and if I do happen to get tipsy I still have enough sense to not do anything stupid like drive. or become an angry drunk or whatever.

[Splittet]

I do drink occasionally, like once every half year, because of some party. I hate the actual taste of alcohol. In the beginning drinking was partly about overcoming that awful taste, getting used to it. It never worked out, and without motivation, it really tastes worse than ever. I joke about being against beer by principle. What annoys me with beer is that it tastes like hell and doesn't even have an effect. I do like feeling slightly intoxicated, which is the reason I still could have a glass of wine or something stronger, just to get that feeling. But let's say I am not into overdoing it.

[Paul V]

wow.

you only live once man.

True, and I really like living without regrets.

I used to be the same way, until I just learned that in reality I just didn't really know myself and was afraid of figuring it out.

Anyhow, I do drink, but usually socially. Its typically is just beer and light alcohol. I don't really care for the hard drinks and I don't keep up with the names anyways. I know my limits so I rarely get drunk and if I do happen to get tipsy I still have enough sense to not do anything stupid like drive. or become an angry drunk or whatever.

No, no, you don't get it. I do know myself. That's why I'm telling you that if I lost control, the worst aspects of my personality would come out. I would range from stupid to evil, passing through immoral, unethical, hurtful and out of control. I am also a very big and strong person. I am constantly making sure I do not actually hurt people, and my horrible reflexes and dexterity don't help in any way.

I trust my apriori knowledge. Alcohol will not benefit me in any way.

I do drink occasionally, like once every half year, because of some party. I hate the actual taste of alcohol. In the beginning drinking was partly about overcoming that awful taste, getting used to it. It never worked out, and without motivation, it really tastes worse than ever. I joke about being against beer by principle. What annoys me with beer is that it tastes like hell and doesn't even have an effect. I do like feeling slightly intoxicated, which is the reason I still could have a glass of wine or something stronger, just to get that feeling. But let's say I am not into overdoing it.

I agree, I hate the taste of alcoholic beverages, but I can endure even the strongest liquors, if I have to.

[Henry]

I drink socially, but most of my associates do not drink so this is fairly rare. Twice per month at most.

I work from home and lightly drink probably 2-3 afternoons per week when the stress is a bit much and I don't have to do any intense or interpersonal work or driving to do. My job involves putting a lot of cover sheets on TPS reports, which you can do a touch tipsy.

[Rohsiph]

wow.

you only live once man.

Convince me of this, and I'll let you buy me a drink? :)

Otherwise, my guess is I'll continue with a policy quite similar to Paul V's.

[quentin]

You should rightfully fear losing self-control. I'm speaking from experience. Drinking can and will turn many people into monsters. Especially if you're the type of person who represses a lot - if you get drunk, all those repressed thoughts will leak out. No, not leak out. Burst out. Explode.

[janonymous]

....i'll be the first to say that i drink pretty often. i'm mostly a social drinker and will only drink by myself on rare occasions.

i don't lose control when i drink. i just loosen the chains a bit.

by the way, i've drank with a LOT of different people. the ones that turn into jackasses after a few drinks are usually jackasses to begin with. and there are people that i've drank with that always keep a happy attitude regardless of what events unfold.

just be happy with being yourself. life's too complicated otherwise.

[RoqueBear]

I remember the first time I got drunk... The feeling of loosing control and not being able to be in charge was completely and totally intoxicating on its own. Though, looking back at those college years, yea, I did enjoy learning about that.

I don't really make a regular practice out of it any more. I've started to appreciate alcohol used in finer cooking now.

white wines, dirty martini dry on the rocks.... whiskey sours..... and the occasional corona when I'm in a beer mood.

[Paul V]

You should rightfully fear losing self-control. I'm speaking from experience. Drinking can and will turn many people into monsters. Especially if you're the type of person who represses a lot - if you get drunk, all those repressed thoughts will leak out. No, not leak out. Burst out. Explode.

That's precisely what I'm afraid of. I repress so much, I've rented a storing space for my extra baggage. I already get a little stupid with a glass of an alcoholic beverage, I can't imagine what I would be like if I was truly drunk.





Paul V added to this post, 10 minutes and 56 seconds later...

Convince me of this, and I'll let you buy me a drink? :)

Otherwise, my guess is I'll continue with a policy quite similar to Paul V's.

I congratulate you on your wisdom.

[Ytterbium]

I rarely drink. I have been drunk twice in my life.

First time, graduation from school.
Second time, when my 11 months of conscription in the Air Force ended.

[Kfbr]

I drink often, I'd say half socially and half to 'shut down my brain'.

But I guess in both instances I'm accomplishing the same thing, to stop fucking thinking. I don't get stressed, at least I don't think, like normal people but at the end of a particularly annoying day I like to come home, have a class or two of scotch and reflect on the day without over analyzing it. I've been doing this more frequently lately but you know what - it hasn't affected my GPA (3.8) or work (haven't called in sick in two years and still command the respect of my office) so I am unconcerned with what my friends think about alcoholism.

I feel it's a different sort of.. tool if you will.. in analyzing. It's almost like a refreshing second view about myself when I stop to think about things. It brings out the little emotions I have in me and I tend to care about people more.

I'm sure this makes me sound like an alcoholic but like I said, drinking hasn't affected any other part of my life.





Kfbr added to this post, 7 minutes and 37 seconds later...

Convince me of this, and I'll let you buy me a drink? :)

Otherwise, my guess is I'll continue with a policy quite similar to Paul V's.

Alcohol drops your inhibitions and I can honestly say that drinking (I was 22 when I had my first drink) was one of the best things I did to raise my confidence ridiculously high.

This may sound bad, but at first I didn't do it for the same reason - I was afraid to see what I was like drunk.

At first, I'll be honest, I was a whiny, self centered and angry drunk. Something an INTJ would definitely not want to show and totally not fun to be around (buzzkill). But this kind of opened doors into myself, and I wanted to fix the root problem, why I was such a whiny fuck when I was drunk which I believe was shown due to the lowered inhibitions.

I learned to control myself while under the influence of alcohol, become the life of a party and ultimately led me to feel great about myself while drunk then weened myself off the substance to feel the same way sober. Without first having seen the bottom of the barrel, there was probably no way I could have seen myself to the top.

This is probably very personal in terms of experience but I never regret anything I've ever done in my life - drunk or sober. Also, fuck anyone who says they don't know what they are doing drunk, I've always known exactly what I was doing drunk and don't forget my 'rationale' the next morning.

[janonymous]

This is probably very personal in terms of experience but I never regret anything I've ever done in my life - drunk or sober. Also, fuck anyone who says they don't know what they are doing drunk, I've always known exactly what I was doing drunk and don't forget my 'rationale' the next morning.

well put [~applause].

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt.

Note: You can lose your inhibitions while completely sober also. Making mistakes is inevitable...just always own responsibility for your actions.

[Sylvanus]

I like to drink. I especially like to drink alone. I used to like to drink to get drunk when I first started drinking at about 19 (for a skinny guy, I could drink most people under the table). I don't drink socially very often because I don't socialize very often. That was when I was in the military and socialization was rather forced, and I was still finding myself at the time. Like others I don't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks, but I have learned to enjoy light colored beer.


Alcohol drops your inhibitions and I can honestly say that drinking (I was 22 when I had my first drink) was one of the best things I did to raise my confidence ridiculously high.


When I do go out, this is the best reason to drink, it makes me mildly euphoric (or really tired sometimes). And I can actually talk to people I don't know! Otherwise I would never ever talk to anybody.



1) It enhances my enjoyment of music/movies. I usually drink alone or with my best friend when I do this, because I can control exactly what's playing on my stereo. There's nothing worse than being forced to someone else's crappy taste in music when you're drunk. Dumb & Dumber low-brow Hollywood comedies are immensely funny when you're drunk, but would probably bore me silly if I were sober.


Drinking reminds me of John Stewart on Half-Baked, the 'enhancement smoker'. Like quentin (or John) I think it makes everything feel better/different. Computer games are more fun, movies are funnier or have more meaning, sex is better, simple acts like walking to the bathroom become an experience.

Of course nowadays I drink alone. I don't actually drink very much very often, mostly just to relax after a long week of working (I work twelve hour days, so I don't drink during the work week). But if the opportunity arises I'll spend the better part of the day just past buzzed, drinking just enough to keep me there.

[quentin]

sex is better

I strongly disagree. Drunken sex isn't all that fun. I like it when my body is at my peak physical capability, not the sloppy fumbling that is drunk sex. Sensations are numbed and you don't remember it all that well the next morning. Sex and drinking do not mix.

Drinking and making out, on the other hand....

[Sunnyoneshine]

I drink to warm me up for social occasions that are emotional plus to stop my brain from thinking. Doesn't happen very often.

[Sylvanus]

I strongly disagree. Drunken sex isn't all that fun. I like it when my body is at my peak physical capability, not the sloppy fumbling that is drunk sex. Sensations are numbed and you don't remember it all that well the next morning. Sex and drinking do not mix.

Drinking and making out, on the other hand....

Now that you mention it, I now recall one of the few times I have thrown up was due to 'motion sickness'. Let me amend my statement to say that I enjoy sex while buzzed, not drunk. If you like to be completely sober, that's fine by me.

[More Tea]

I drink regularly, but almost never am drunk. Drinks are a culinary thing for me. I'm a total beer snob: bring a Bud or Miller anywhere near my house and I reserve the right to send you back home in shame. Mostly, I like to have a beer or wine that compliments whatever is for dinner. In a party, though, I drink to be more comfortable with socializing.

[Rohsiph]

Alcohol drops your inhibitions and I can honestly say that drinking (I was 22 when I had my first drink) was one of the best things I did to raise my confidence ridiculously high.

This may sound bad, but at first I didn't do it for the same reason - I was afraid to see what I was like drunk.

At first, I'll be honest, I was a whiny, self centered and angry drunk. Something an INTJ would definitely not want to show and totally not fun to be around (buzzkill). But this kind of opened doors into myself, and I wanted to fix the root problem, why I was such a whiny fuck when I was drunk which I believe was shown due to the lowered inhibitions.

I learned to control myself while under the influence of alcohol, become the life of a party and ultimately led me to feel great about myself while drunk then weened myself off the substance to feel the same way sober. Without first having seen the bottom of the barrel, there was probably no way I could have seen myself to the top.

This is probably very personal in terms of experience but I never regret anything I've ever done in my life - drunk or sober. Also, fuck anyone who says they don't know what they are doing drunk, I've always known exactly what I was doing drunk and don't forget my 'rationale' the next morning.

. . . While I appreciate your personal account, what I was looking for in terms of convincing was evidence supporting the assertion that "you only live once."

Now, while I do not outright disagree with this assertion, I fail to see how it could ever be construed as a basis for justifying the use of chemical substances.

To offer something of a comment in appreciation of your sharing your experience, Kfbr, I'll say this: if I end up falling in love with someone who wants me to drink, I'll probably try it out. Until then, I've yet to hear an argument convincing enough to sway my perspective.

(I wonder what it means that I figure the most convincing argument to drink would be a statement like "Because I love you" directed at me both honestly & genuinely?)

[Sylvanus]

(I wonder what it means that I figure the most convincing argument to drink would be a statement like "Because I love you" directed at me both honestly & genuinely?)

Drink the beer or I'll club the baby seal! You're running out of options now buster. Do you want this innocent creature's blood on your hands?

[Antares]

I don't drink (partly because I'm not of legal drinking age. I'm 14), but I'm aware that some of the members of my age group do despite the law. I don't think I'll start even when I'm of age simply because I don't trust myself with something potentially addictive. I have a tendency to become obssessive (computer games, music artists etc. Nothing harmful) about certain things even though I know better and my experiences tell me to be cautious when approaching such matters (I know this is a sensing trait, but there's really no harm in not drinking). I do hate the taste of alchohol but what ultimately keeps me in line during my parents' parties is my fear of losing control.





Camelopardalis added to this post, 7 minutes and 20 seconds later...


(I wonder what it means that I figure the most convincing argument to drink would be a statement like "Because I love you" directed at me both honestly & genuinely?)

Then that person might be a tad confused about the concept of mature love. You don't use love to pressure someone to do something that is potentially harmful or against their will. That'll be like saying: "Have sex with me... Because I love you." (if they are unwilling) True, they might really love you, but when it really comes down to it one shouldn't manipulate love to make someone do something. In mature love, one would respect another's choice in such circumstances.

[SuperTrouper]

I don't drink because I hate the taste of alcohol. I also don't like how people who drink behave, so I don't want to be affected that way, either.

[Philip]

I don't drink. I've never gotten drunk, and I plan on staying that way. I am very concerned with what might happen to me should I lose control. The possibilities terrify me.

I am the same, I am too afraid that while I'm drunk I will not be able to "help" myself.
I hate the idea that I will not be in complete control of myself. I will never drink.

[DeepPurple]

I really didn't know whether to pick option one or two. Legally I am too young too drink. I have tasted beer, wine and a few types of alcohol. I don't generally like the taste. The only alcohol that I have tasted and liked was a long island iced tea. Everything else is a no go. If I do drink in the future it will happen once in a while and in the comforts of my own home. With a friend....

Edit to add: I would never drink enough to get drunk. I also like Pina Colada Coolers.

[Bossy Mom]

I haven't had an alcoholic drink in over 21 years because I'm a recovering alcoholic. I met my husband at AA -- I was able to stay sober, but he couldn't. As for myself, it doesn't bother me if I'm with other people who are drinking, it wouldn't be fair of me, and most people are social drinkers, not alcoholics. Unfortunately, my husband's alcoholism led to marriage problems, financial problems, and his death at an early age.

[Rohsiph]

Drink the beer or I'll club the baby seal! You're running out of options now buster. Do you want this innocent creature's blood on your hands?

I thought I already clubbed the last one . . . that was a mean sandwich, I tell ya. Huh. Guess a couple got away.

Sure; sounds delicious.

Then that person might be a tad confused about the concept of mature love. You don't use love to pressure someone to do something that is potentially harmful or against their will. That'll be like saying: "Have sex with me... Because I love you." (if they are unwilling) True, they might really love you, but when it really comes down to it one shouldn't manipulate love to make someone do something. In mature love, one would respect another's choice in such circumstances.

Important addendum: the statement must necessarily be genuine in a non-manipulative way. Example: "Because I love you" suggesting "I really want you to experience this thing that is important to me because I am mentally, physically, spiritually, & emotionally invested in being a part of your life . . . but I'll understand if it's really important for you not to do this." I'll know if that's what she means . . . trust me :)

[Kfbr]

. . . While I appreciate your personal account, what I was looking for in terms of convincing was evidence supporting the assertion that "you only live once."

Now, while I do not outright disagree with this assertion, I fail to see how it could ever be construed as a basis for justifying the use of chemical substances.

To offer something of a comment in appreciation of your sharing your experience, Kfbr, I'll say this: if I end up falling in love with someone who wants me to drink, I'll probably try it out. Until then, I've yet to hear an argument convincing enough to sway my perspective.

(I wonder what it means that I figure the most convincing argument to drink would be a statement like "Because I love you" directed at me both honestly & genuinely?)

To each their own. We all know no one can convince an INTJ to do anything, they have to reach a conclusion themselves ;)

Goodluck buddy, just never live with regrets and remember what you just said, you only live once!

[aelan]

I rarely drink. I usually don't at all, but I did a couple of times this year because I live with people who drink and I was trying to be social. I wasn't pressured at all though, they were totally ok with me not drinking and hanging out, but sometimes I did anyways just because, I don't know, I felt like it..

[Rohsiph]

To each their own. We all know no one can convince an INTJ to do anything, they have to reach a conclusion themselves ;)

Goodluck buddy, just never live with regrets and remember what you just said, you only live once!

;)

I rarely drink. I usually don't at all, but I did a couple of times this year because I live with people who drink and I was trying to be social. I wasn't pressured at all though, they were totally ok with me not drinking and hanging out, but sometimes I did anyways just because, I don't know, I felt like it..

Did . . . did you re-read what you wrote before you posted it? Because the way you wrote it, it kind of comes off sounding really similar to something like:

"I rarely kill. Really, I've only killed a few times . . . but it happened this once because I was hanging out with some killers, and I wanted them to like me. Oh, oh, but it wasn't pressure at all, I mean they understood, you know, not everyone kills, and they liked me hanging out just the same, but I just . . . you know, I tried, because--because I felt like it! Yeah, yeah, they had nothing to do with it, it was totally my choice."

that is: it reads kind of um . . . desperate?

I mean--yes, it's your choice . . . but there looks to be a really heavy dose of subconscious pressure in there. I just wanted to point it out, remembering that pointing such things out has helped some acquaintances of mine in the past.

[aelan]

I've literally only drank like 2 times this year. I would consider that to be not a lot for someone in college. There was no pressure from them at all, though I could have put some pressure on myself to be "normal" for once in a social situation, I'll admit that. I've hung out with them before without drinking and it was fine. Drinking really was my decision.

I don't think there's anything morally wrong with drinking though, it's just something I usually don't have any interest in. With killing on the other hand, someone/something dies. It's permanent, and it affects someone other than myself. With drinking (for me, anyways), the worst that could happen is I get sick or have a hangover the next morning. So it's really not that bad if I try it every once in a while, even if it's something that I normally wouldn't do.

[Rohsiph]

aelan: that seems reasonable--my mistake for pressing you to explain a bit more (though I appreciate your taking the time to do so :)).

[aelan]

that's fine. I want people to ask for clarification if I'm not clear about something, so they don't get the wrong idea. thanks for taking the time to ask

[generalowk]

I marked "once in a great while", though I'm probably closer to "social drinker". It's just that I'm not out socially that often.

[slut poacher]

i have recently quit.i was drinking far too often to make the population at large easier to deal with with.i am hoping that the advice and insight gained from this forum will provide me with alternatives to make sense of everybody else.

[BadMojo]

I'm Danish. I drink quite often, but not everyday. Recently, after a trip to Sweden, I've started to drink light beer (2,5%) instead of regular beer(4,6%) because I no longer enjoy getting totally wasted. I'm getting older hehe.
+ You can drink all day and still be sensible + no hangovers!

I've never liked hard liquor, but I simply love beer! It's 6000-8000 years of perfection, and one really have to admire the diversity of beer. Wine is much more crude, and can't even compare be to the ambrosial taste of beer. I do like wine once in a while. For instance, I always get in the mood for some red wine when I hear Sinatra - Don't know why.

Mainly, I drink because I like it. I don't really need it; though it is a part of my circle of acquaintances and friends. And it's nice to share a cold one.

[Danisty]

I chose that I drink regularly, but it has nothing to do with parties and social events. I generally drink at home because it's cheaper and I won't be going anywhere so I don't have to concern myself with driving. I drink because I like the taste of alcohol (specifically liquor). I don't drink to get drunk because, well, it's not particularly fun to be drunk.

[Stealth]

I voted "I'm drunk right now, sitting alone in my room, only wearing boxers" though that is not actually true since it is winter and to cold to sit in front of my computer in just my boxers, but if it were warm enough, I would.

To answer the actual question though, I kind of prefer to drink alone, because then there is no risk involved of making a fool out of myself, though I also like alcohol as a social lubricant. I only feel comfortable if I drink with people I already know though, and even if I am drunk I dont like to talk to strangers at all.

[curious1]

I drank a lot for a while. Now, I don't drink much, if at all for months at a time. Lately alcohol has only had the negative effect of making me tired and worried about getting a DUI.

[davycoppitt]

Im in college so I drink often. However when I am not at college I hardly drink mabye once or twice a month. Many of my freinds in college drink 4-5 times a week.

[edalz]

I drink both in social situations and while alone. I usually like the taste of alcohol, but I hate red wine (I'm not very fond of any wine, actually). I have decent social skills without alcohol, but it does make it easier to deal with some people if I can cast aside a few inhibitions and turn the brain down a few notches.

That being said, I have never been drunk and don't plan on it anytime soon. Too much alcohol usually results in my social skills going through the floor. Namely me professing my undying love and/or attraction for people that I know. *awkward*

[quentin]

A lot of people here claim that they drink but don't get drunk.

???

To me the entire purpose of alcohol is to get drunk. It's useless to me otherwise. Either go all the way with something or don't go there at all; half-measures seem inefficient to me. Being slightly buzzed gives me a queasy feeling - all of the drawbacks of alcohol consumption with none of the benefits. I only start enjoying alcohol when I'm drunk.

It's the same reason I can never understand smoking or coffee. Cigarettes and coffee are widely used drugs that lots of people use habitually because.....it's comforting to use something habitually? I don't use either because neither of them gets me high, so they seem pointless and inefficient. I don't enjoy marijuana either because the buzz is too mild and relaxing. (I've never done any drugs harder than whiskey, BTW, and really have no desire to do so.)

[Pinkie]

I drink occasionally if I'm out with my friends, but mostly I don't bother. I don't particularly like the taste or the effect of alcohol, so it would seem pretty stupid to drink it anyway. Having said that, I do like Malibu and coke, provided there's not very much Malibu in it.

[Zilal]

I drink for a stupid reason, which is that the people I'm with are doing it and I want to participate in the group. But still, I only do it rarely, and only when I'm already in a good mood and don't have to do any thinking later. Drinking makes me extremely stupid. And it definitely lowers my inhibitions, which isn't always a bad thing, but I think I get slightly obnoxious.

[Sylvanus]

A lot of people here claim that they drink but don't get drunk.

???

To me the entire purpose of alcohol is to get drunk. It's useless to me otherwise. Either go all the way with something or don't go there at all; half-measures seem inefficient to me. Being slightly buzzed gives me a queasy feeling - all of the drawbacks of alcohol consumption with none of the benefits. I only start enjoying alcohol when I'm drunk.

It's the same reason I can never understand smoking or coffee. Cigarettes and coffee are widely used drugs that lots of people use habitually because.....it's comforting to use something habitually? I don't use either because neither of them gets me high, so they seem pointless and inefficient. I don't enjoy marijuana either because the buzz is too mild and relaxing. (I've never done any drugs harder than whiskey, BTW, and really have no desire to do so.)

Perhaps we all have different personal definitions of drunk and buzzed. As it is a personal experience that reflects itself in our actions, one may be drunk and not realize it because they are not acting drunk like the extravert making a fool of themself across the room. But I could be wrong.
In addition to all the other reasons I stated earlier, I thought of another reason to drink; which is merely to take the edge off. I used to like getting really drunk, back when I was in the military, mildly depressed and needed an escape. But now I am in relatively good spirits most of the time, and getting really drunk makes me feel like crap. I get mildly drunk when I want to have fun but want to maintain a fair amount of control. But most of the time when I drink I just get buzzed, it slows my mind down and allows me to feel normal (not 'normal' like an alcoholic where they have to be drunk to feel normal but normal as in I feel like my mind isn't constantly racing at a mile a minute, I can actually concentrate). I like to be able to feel good and still function in a normal capacity (reading, playing games, playing with the kids).

[elfece]

Drinking is just so pointless...

[Des]

You're not alone Paul V. I don't drink. I'm not religious or anything I just think drinking is stupid. I like remembering my life. I like being in control. I'm a control freak. I do not wish to kill anyone and keep my driving abilities sharp. I've seen too many lives destroyed by alcohol including the drunk idiot neighbors across the street. For New Years this year I toasted with Sparkling Apple Cider. Looks like alcohol but isn't. I'm very proud to be a non drinker. I had sips out of curiosity as a teen. I think alcohol tastes disgusting. All of it, wine and beer especially. :yuck: Ah yes I don't like to throw up. Another reason for me to not drink. Nope I value my brain too much to fry it with a toxic liquid.

[Paul V]

You're not alone Paul V. I don't drink. I'm not religious or anything I just think drinking is stupid. I like remembering my life. I like being in control. I'm a control freak. I do not wish to kill anyone and keep my driving abilities sharp. I've seen too many lives destroyed by alcohol including the drunk idiot neighbors across the street. For New Years this year I toasted with Sparkling Apple Cider. Looks like alcohol but isn't. I'm very proud to be a non drinker. I had sips out of curiosity as a teen. I think alcohol tastes disgusting. All of it, wine and beer especially. :yuck: Ah yes I don't like to throw up. Another reason for me to not drink. Nope I value my brain too much to fry it with a toxic liquid.

Oh, wow. That's exactly what I think. I've also witnessed what alcohol does to people (and what car crashes do as well). Meh, I suppose there's nothing like a good scare (or a few good scares) to teach not to do something stupid.

[Kfbr]

You are blaming the substance for the consequences of the user. I've been drinking for only three years and in that time I've managed to gain complete control of myself while under the substance.

It's a fantastic challenge, or at least it was to me, to gain control over the substance that others blame their misfortunes on. I find it highly liberating to kick back with a few drinks and let my 'T' (that's what it feels like) go down a few notches so I can slow down and enjoy the moment.

It sounds to me like you are afraid, afraid of what could happen. You have no idea what will happen until you do it yourself. I felt similar before I drank but I didn't let that stop me. I knew that because I had complete control over myself, a simple mind altering substance wouldn't destroy everything I had accomplished. Then again, I approached it like a science experiment, as I do with most things in my life.

[arnsworth1026]

You should rightfully fear losing self-control. I'm speaking from experience. Drinking can and will turn many people into monsters. Especially if you're the type of person who represses a lot - if you get drunk, all those repressed thoughts will leak out. No, not leak out. Burst out. Explode.

well said. I've always felt that if you really want to know who a person is at their core, get them sloshed.


As for me, I drink as much as the occasion warrants. Sometimes it's 1 or 2 after work, sometimes its a 6 pack, sometimes its a few mixed drinks. If it's new years eve, it means until 5 in the morning. However much I do drink though, I don't like being 4 sheets to the wind as all I want to do is go to sleep. So however much I do drink, I'm pacing myself the entire time.

I wonder sometimes if I'm flirting with drinking too much too often, but as I'm aware that I'm flirting with it, I'm not sure where that leaves me......

[Winden]

I was just wondering, how much the INTJ community drinks. And furthermore why do you drink?

I drink because it's become part of my lifestyle. I used to drink for fun, now I mostly do it out of habit, though it's bordering on being a necessity. Whenever I'm out with my friends I just need to hold a glass with some alcoholic beverage in it, and when I'm alone I often find myself longing for a beer or three.

I know it's probably bad for me, but I'm not planning on seeing my greatgrandchildren get married and settle Mars anyway.

As for losing control: it never happens to me. I just get cheerful, talkative and friendly. Unless it's one of those rare occasions in which I somehow manage to forget that you're not supposed to consume large quantities of absinthe, wine, whisky and beer all on the same night, in which case I just collapse and go through two days of hangover agony. But that only happens once or twice a year.

[Paul V]

You are blaming the substance for the consequences of the user. I've been drinking for only three years and in that time I've managed to gain complete control of myself while under the substance.

Not possible for everyone.

[Kfbr]

Why not?

[Sylvanus]

Why not?

I understand that some people that have tried it have learned that they cannot deal with the consequences, it is better for them not to drink. But someone that has never tried it because they are afraid of what might happen, that's just silly.

For someone that wants to try it but is afraid they may go overboard, go buy a 24 oz and take it home and drink it. If you're at a bar or have a whole 6-pack, you are much more likely to overdrink and regret it the next day, with just a 24 oz you can just take it easy.

[Blendy]

I very much enjoy drinking, alone or with company. Alone, it's a pleasant relaxant. With company, it helps me become more extraverted, and ultimately, to have more fun in social situations. But I never become drunk (and never have). I'm not into feeling out of control of my body, hangovers, or making a general ass of myself.

[Gonzo]

I enjoy alcohol several times a week, mostly alone. Why? Because from the start of the day to the end, my head is (almost obsessively) working random thoughts and analysing everything. It just gets exhausting from time to time and alcohol helps me "turn it off" for a little while, so I can sit back and relax . To be honest I think I'd be on a one way, fast track to loony-ville without it! So unlike some who fear what might happen if they drink, I fear what might happen if I don't :).

Now this probably is rather unhealthy, and some people may say its borderline alcoholism, but its how I get my chance to reset my batteries ;).

[quentin]

My New Year's resolution was to give up alcohol until the next New Year's celebrations.

Which shall occur in the second week of February, according to the Chinese lunar calendar.

[MetalWounds]

I enjoy alcohol several times a week, mostly alone. Why? Because from the start of the day to the end, my head is (almost obsessively) working random thoughts and analysing everything. It just gets exhausting from time to time and alcohol helps me "turn it off" for a little while, so I can sit back and relax . To be honest I think I'd be on a one way, fast track to loony-ville without it! So unlike some who fear what might happen if they drink, I fear what might happen if I don't :).

Now this probably is rather unhealthy, and some people may say its borderline alcoholism, but its how I get my chance to reset my batteries ;).

Amen to that... And the soul crushing life that is the military, it makes me feel almost human again...almost...

[Sylvanus]

Amen to that... And the soul crushing life that is the military, it makes me feel almost human again...almost...

Yes the military will steal your soul, you must replenish it with the spirits of the potato.

[Paul V]

Why not?

Not everyone has the combination of necessary factors available to them. Think hard about all the things that made what you did possible, ranging from inside factors, such as willpower and determination, to outside factors, such as a safe environment. It's not as easy as you make it seem, and for those who do have the factors available to them, it might be extremely hard and ultimately not that rewarding.

[polyintj]

I dont drink coz I dont want to imahine what will happen if am not in control of myself. Thats about it

[desg90]

I don't drink because... I hate the feeling of the substance gnawing at my throat.
It's too acid and sour for me. :p

Plus, the horror stories are pretty abundant.
They were enough to leave a strong impression on this mind of mine. ;)

Now, if it comes to flaws, vices and acts of self-indulgence...
I have many.

[jdc127]

I read somewhere that under great stress INTJ's resort to repetitive and sensate activities, and the one and only example they used was over-drinking.

I grew up in small town rural Illinois with nothing to do in high school but get drunk or watch TV, and I never watched TV. My friends and I drank a LOT. Also, my father and three uncles drank a LOT, as did their circle of friends. (Something about emulation of elders...) I then lived mainly by myself in Colorado and drank a LOT by myself. Besides my family and friend history, I also have 6 yrs experience in the construction trades, and there is a very high incidence of alcoholism there. I then decided I didn't want to drink that much and got to where I was drinking 1-3 microbrews a night.

Last February I decided I didn't have the money or the desire to drink expensive beer all the time. Except when I am visiting my family on holidays, I have drank hardly a drop since then. When I visited my family last Thanksgiving and Christmas, I drank quite a bit in my father's wood working shop. It has truly become a tradition with the men in my family.

I do agree that there is somewhat of a social lubricant in alcohol, and I do love the taste of a good microbrew. I also see how there is the self-medication aspect, but it seems like overdrinking for mental pain/stress is like trying to cure a headache by knocking yourself unconscious. It works, and I have enjoyed its properties of fast-forward on many an occassion, but it can easily become a crutch which is a hair's breadth from alcoholism. It is also HORRIBLE for your body. If we are talking experience enhancement, stress reduction, social lubricant or self-medication, I prefer some THC myself, preferably vaporized or cooked in order to prevent most of the ill health effects. (Interestingly, I sometimes get social anxiety when I smoke with other folks with no alcohol in my system...)

Here, I am NOT advocating alcohol or cannabis use, NOR am I knocking them. To each their own, and to each situation, its own. BALANCE and MODERATION should be the watchwords, as with anything.

[quentin]

Even if you don't drink, this is one of the most hilarious sites on the internet.

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I recommend starting with the "You're a Drunk" lists.

You’ve discovered that teaching your dog to shoplift from liquor stores was not nearly as hard as teaching him to distinguish between Grey Goose and McCormick’s.

You were against going to war with Iraq until you found out those poor fuckers aren’t allowed to drink.

The first thing you thought when you woke up yesterday was, “Wow, look at all that gum stuck under the bar!”

Your girlfriend left you because you accidentally cried out “Glenfiddich” while making love.

Your beer back comes with a tap.

You conduct weekly “assisted short-term flight” experiments every weekend. With the help of various bouncers.

You’re regularly mobbed by autograph hungry alley winos.

You were the first person in line at the flu clinic because you heard they were giving away free shots.

You like tequila with a lime — or dirt, or a hamster or whatever, so long as there’s tequila involved.

You come home sober and your dog bites you.

The cafeteria in the detox center has a sandwich named after you.

You can’t recognize your best friend unless he’s leaning against a bar. With a drink in his hand. Drunk.

You like a splash of coffee in your morning whiskey.

You can blow a .08 BAC from twenty feet away.

You take swim trunks to brewery tours.

You’re kept awake at night by the sound of your liver crying.

You prefer cold showers because the ice in your drink doesn’t melt as fast.

You’re shocked and confounded to discover they actually sell Coke without Jack Daniels.

When a cop asks you to walk a straight line, you ask, “Which one?”

You tried getting out of a DUI by putting a beer label on your arm and telling the cop you’re off the booze and on the patch.

You woke up on New Years Eve with the resolution of finding out which bars open earliest.

Get mad when your family calls you a
wino because they know damn well you prefer whiskey.

You’re definition of a problem drinker is guy who won’t buy you a round.

You hate the person you become when you black out, because, you know, that fucker drinks all your beer.

You know hangovers only last a day, but a good drinking story lives on forever.

[fripping]

voted "i drink all the time, and i don't care". all it took was one sip of my dad's beer and i was hooked instantly. i've killed at least 100 people while drunk driving and am only a quarter as smart as i used to be. i don't know what my name is, thank god for cookies or i wouldn't be able to log in.

i just vomited up my liver, the doctor says i have about 10 days or so left to live.

i tried to rape my boss and he fired me and now i'm unemployed and don't do anything except beat up on my girlfriend when i'm drunk. alcohol is a horrible, horrible drug and none of you should buy it. in fact nobody should but me, sending alcohol prices into an irrecoverable downward spiral.

all i drink is fancy imported belgian flemish Hopduvel orange-flavored specialty beer with chocolate overtones and a golden cork sealed bottle which is only produced in yearly batches of 12, total. i couldn't possibly bear to stoop so low as to drink anything as lowly as Lambic or that peasant's schnapps Goldschlager. anyone who drinks draught beer needs to be killed outright, immediately.

[Pkz]

I dont drink that often. No problem with getting drunk; To rationals that might be a rare escape from reality I guess.

[Paul V]

voted "i drink all the time, and i don't care". all it took was one sip of my dad's beer and i was hooked instantly. i've killed at least 100 people while drunk driving and am only a quarter as smart as i used to be. i don't know what my name is, thank god for cookies or i wouldn't be able to log in.

i just vomited up my liver, the doctor says i have about 10 days or so left to live.

i tried to rape my boss and he fired me and now i'm unemployed and don't do anything except beat up on my girlfriend when i'm drunk. alcohol is a horrible, horrible drug and none of you should buy it. in fact nobody should but me, sending alcohol prices into an irrecoverable downward spiral.

all i drink is fancy imported belgian flemish Hopduvel orange-flavored specialty beer with chocolate overtones and a golden cork sealed bottle which is only produced in yearly batches of 12, total. i couldn't possibly bear to stoop so low as to drink anything as lowly as Lambic or that peasant's schnapps Goldschlager. anyone who drinks draught beer needs to be killed outright, immediately.

Good thing about people like you is the fact that they tend to remove themselves from existence without aid. :)

/joke

[Jedi_sena]

My father was an alcoholic and I have always assumed that I had to the genetic potential for addiction, so I never consume it for effect. I view it as a beverage and can appreciate a single glass of wine or a dark exotic beer as I would a cup of lavender/chamomile tea. I always figure that since I'd never drink 3 soda pops in a single sitting, then why have 3 beers? I wouldn't enjoy appearing drunk and stupid in front of others. I like to be respected. I will drink alone as readily as I would in a social setting, but only if it is something I enjoy the taste of. I won't drink in a social setting where I think the alcohol consumption is excessive or might become so with the particular company I am keeping, even if my favorite drinks are being served.

[Over]

Decided to stop drinking this year! Havent tasted alcohol for 10 days, yay!

I like the taste of wine. I like to drink a lot of it. Sometimes it is damn fun to get drunk with few friends. But recently I realised that it is also fun to not get drunk and do some activity instead.

For example, this year, few days ago, in middle of the night, me one girl and one guy from studies went to visit 3 highest spots in town in the middle of the night. It was quite fun to take hot coffee from mcdonalds and climb into a mountain while its damn cold.

Weird thing is that I got quite same feeling as if i am drunk. Maybe its the feeling of fun or stupid or something.

[EvanR]

I find that I can drink significantly more alcohol than others who drink very often despite the fact that I drink very rarely. I have always attributed this to my self-control. When I found out recently that I was an INTJ I realized that this might explain my peculiar ability.

[Sesshoumaru]

Don't drink, never have, never will, find it detestable, but that's just me.

[Ocean Machine]

When I drink, my "judging" architecture gets a tweak that some people don't find user-friendly...

Agreed. When I'm in situations where it's important that I be very aware of what I'm saying/doing and the effect on others, I need to learn to stay away from the alcohol.

In other situations, I drink mainly socially. I love beer, and will drink it just for the taste. Occasionally I'll have a beer alone when I come home after a hard day at work. When I overdrink, it's usually because of stress, and the aforementioned bad things happen.

[Muumeh]

I'm social drinker, though I'm not very social...those occasions don't happen that often. Maybe ten times a year, if you don't count single drinks with food or whatever. When I am drinking, I drink moderately. I don't like the feeling of being too drunk and I never drink myself under the table.

[Sesquipedalian]

I have never consumed alcohol nor do I intend to.

Being someone who values his lucidity and intelligent, I have no desire to consume alcoholic products.

Furthermore, I do very much value escaping within books and games, and might turn to alcoholism as an unhealthy coping mechanism if I were to hit a rough patch.

[Harmony]

I will drink maybe 2-3 drinks if I go out, but never more than 3. It's kind of amusing how much all of my friends have matured. Just about everyone I talked to this year, toasted Champagne or Wine on New Years, as opposed to beer like we used to. =P Or maybe it's just that we all make more money now and can afford the good stuff.....

Typically I'll go out on Friday or Saturday night (sometimes both), on rare occasion I'll go out one night through the week... I don't always drink just because I'm out though.

[Doppelbock]

I drink BEER. Good microbrewed beers. I'm a beer snob. I don't drink to get drunk (and I'll stop if I get more than a wee bit tipsy), I drink because I'm a beer snob and I love beer. I'll have 2 or 3 a night. Preferably by myself.

[lamplighter]

I drink socially, and I'll only drink stuff that actually tastes good, which some people don't seem to get, like with beer I'll only drink dark ale's like New Castle, or if the bar can make one a black & tan, usually I'll drink a long island or a glass of wine though I stop when I feel buzzed. I feel sorry for alcoholics in general, because they hold little respect with anyone, there are certainly many that I have hated as well because I find allot of them to be total pricks, giving me a rather negative opinion about alcohol.

[Chad]

I'm a beer snob, as well. Seriously, if you like beer how can you drink the swill that Bud, Miller, Coors, Molson, etc. makes? It's fine if all you want to do is get drunk, but it has no taste or tastes terrible. Now a good Rasputin Rusian Imperial Stout or Allagash White...now I can drink that.

[JoshuaFairtex]

Like another poster said, I take pride in the fact at how well I can handle my alcohol. I'm still pretty young (20) so my friends always go to bars or throw parties at their houses etc, I find that when i'm drinking going out doesn't seem like a chore, but without the booze my friends will never see me. I won't go out unless i'm getting drunk, never to just "hang out", that feels awkward to me so I do my best to fake it. Usually i'll drink an entire mickey of rum to myself when I go out and be good.





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edit: ** for the record i've quit drinking because I have some fights coming up in March that i'm training for and I don't drink when i'm fighting ** so i'm not currently a drinker at the moment, not even a drop is prohibited.

[ToC]

INTJ & Alcohol: BFFs

[Tranquillity]

I am a binge drinker mainly because most of my friends are as well. The number of totally utterly cringe worthy situations involving alcohol is so numerous that, I am ashamed to say, they no longer embarrass me. It is more like 'oh shit, not again. I can't believe I did that. Oh wait. Yes I can'. Also, I am very uncomfortable in large crowds so anything to help ease my social awkwardness helps me... tho now I do realise I way over do it.

Oh the other hand, the good thing is that I only drink when I go out and never drink at home. So I guess I am not really an alcoholic...

[MaleVolentworld]

I think steven7 is permanently drunk :)

I don't drink at all because:
1. It tastes disgusting
2. It mainly involves being in a crowded room full of noisy strangers and is closely associated with socialising. I am unable to socialise...it says so on my birth certificate.
3. Drunk people are zombies, and zombies are unpredictable.
4. Becoming a zombie yourself makes your vulnerable to many dangerous things, especially if you're female.
5. If you weigh up the joy vs next day suffering, joy loses out. In the long term joy loses out even more.

However, when I was 15 I wanted to experience being drunk and it felt kind of strange. It makes you more social though and much easier to approach women.

[Nyctalop]

Your argumentation doesn't really add up, MaleVolentworld.

1.Drinks come in many aromas and colors. I think it's impossible to say that they're all disgusting, some taste exactly like a refreshment drink.

2.There are also many places where you can get a drink. Not all bars are full of noisy disturbing people. Some might even have music that you like.

3.This is not relevant to you drinking. Drunks will be drunks, regardless of how sober you are.

4.You don't have to get drunk when you drink. In fact, I advise you don't. You might end up in strange places wondering what happened the night before.

5.If you don't drink heavily, you won't get a hang-over.


Some drinks, like wine in moderation, are considered beneficial and are proven to prolong life.

[Malotis]

I drink because I like the taste and enjoy the effects it has on me. Music sounds better, people become more interesting, and any pestering worry in the back of my mind becomes not as significant. I also like using alcohol (and other drugs too) as a reward system -- like if I bring in an unusually large amount of money home from work or finally manage to inititiate a conversation with that speciall someone, then I'm prone to reward myself with a celebratory drink or two for a job well done.


Being someone who values his lucidity and intelligent, I have no desire to consume alcoholic products.

I'm guessing you meant to say intelligence? I'm sorry, but if you want to use intelligence as an argument for not drinking alcohol, then at the very least use the word correctly.

[IreOfDesire]

Social drinker, 3+ times a week
Both my parents are/were drunks but I don`t drink to drown my sorrow for pointeless life
Actually I don`t know non-drinkers persoanlly. But that`s culture issue i suppose.

Chears!

[llBradll]

I really only like to drink a little. It tends to relax me to have a beer or two, and helps me to get to whats really on my mind because I can tend to neglect my feelings. I don't like to have more drinks though, because I always like to be in control of myself.

I have never consumed alcohol nor do I intend to.

Being someone who values his lucidity and intelligent, I have no desire to consume alcoholic products.

Furthermore, I do very much value escaping within books and games, and might turn to alcoholism as an unhealthy coping mechanism if I were to hit a rough patch.

I feel that it's a fair payoff because for an INTJ you think more than feel. In reality drinking sort of evens you out with everybody else. I would argue that my feeling is enhanced when I drink.

[daydreamer]

why drink when one can get high?

[probity]

Drinking and I do not mix well I'm afraid. I'm a very small girl and an extreme lightweight. I'm tipsy after a glass of champagne. Added onto that alcoholism runs in my family, I have PTSD, and I'm an angry drunk, it's just better for everyone that I don't drink at all.

I do like a sip of wine at holidays. Only one or two sips though.

[WaeV]

I've never drunk with friends.

I've drunk single glasses of wine / champagne with my dad.

Thrice drunk, alone, for the experience.

[SRVcardsfan27]

I drink 5 or 6 nights a week and have several each time.

[Shinqui]

4.You don't have to get drunk when you drink. In fact, I advise you don't. You might end up in strange places wondering what happened the night before.


Wait, isn't that the whole point?

[Nomadofthehills]

I almost never drink, and I am in college right now so that is pretty unusual. By almost never I mean I have tried it twice to see the effects. I'm 6'2 and about 250, so that may be why.

First time, no effect. I went in with a full stomach and had 4 beers in an hour, no effect. College beer tastes bad.

Second time, played a drinking game, got, tipsy? I don't know the terminology. My brain was fine, but my fine motor skills decreased slightly.

What is a "buzz?" Why is it enjoyable?

[WaeV]

When I've had a glass of wine, the best way to describe the effects would be "gliding". Everything is slowed down, but not nearly as drastically as when full-on drunk. It's neat having just that much because you see everything from a slightly altered perspective while still being able to communicate.

[Nyctalop]

Wait, isn't that the whole point?

No. Drinking to get drunk is for people that don't know how to drink. If you have some experience you'll know when to stop.

[zibber]

why drink when one can get high?

Finally, some sense!

[Jgib5328]

Drinking is pretty good in moderation. I like to drink more in the beginning of the semester, maybe once a week to get drunk and then I'll taper off towards the end of the semester. I think it's good for me to really let myself loose, have a good time, and meet people, but it's not something that I'm going to rely on for those things. I honestly do think that everyone should get drunk at least once in their life to try it before knocking it.

[brainysmurf]

Alcohol has no appeal to me. I understand that a lot of people drink alcohol to be more relaxed, but I prefer to be in control of what I'm doing and saying. I do drink sometimes at social events like business dinners and other situations where it is "expected". If I refuse, people start asking questions because it seems like you need a good reason not to drink alcohol. I'm just not comfortable with drinking. Usually I let them give me a glass of wine, but only take a sip.

[MrDoom]

I don't drink -- my mother's terrible alcoholism when I was little has turned me off from any possibility of viewing the practice with any positive viewpoint. It's just a personal thing.

Plus, the idea of my social barriers and inhibitions being dissolved makes my skin crawl. I keep those walls up for a reason.

[mel]

i have never been drunk. for some odd reason i feel that if i am drunk i will end up doing something really bad and have no self control. hence, havent even tried to drink.

do any of you guys feel that coz of normal control in daily life that you cant seem to let go, even for a night?

[llBradll]

i have never been drunk. for some odd reason i feel that if i am drunk i will end up doing something really bad and have no self control. hence, havent even tried to drink.

do any of you guys feel that coz of normal control in daily life that you cant seem to let go, even for a night?

Just start out small. Figure out how much it effects you. Once you know that it isn't bad at all.

[wendytwtee]

Apart from the almost daily glass of wine because I read somewhere that it's good for the brain I try not to drink at all, except in social settings;if not to ward off attention for not doing so then to just enjoy a drink and wind down my discomfort in large crowds.

It isn't just the fear forgetting my limits and going into a stupor where anything can happen either, I also don't exactly love the idea of liver damage.

[wittykitty]

voted "i drink all the time, and i don't care". all it took was one sip of my dad's beer and i was hooked instantly. i've killed at least 100 people while drunk driving and am only a quarter as smart as i used to be. i don't know what my name is, thank god for cookies or i wouldn't be able to log in.

i just vomited up my liver, the doctor says i have about 10 days or so left to live.

i tried to rape my boss and he fired me and now i'm unemployed and don't do anything except beat up on my girlfriend when i'm drunk. alcohol is a horrible, horrible drug and none of you should buy it. in fact nobody should but me, sending alcohol prices into an irrecoverable downward spiral.

all i drink is fancy imported belgian flemish Hopduvel orange-flavored specialty beer with chocolate overtones and a golden cork sealed bottle which is only produced in yearly batches of 12, total. i couldn't possibly bear to stoop so low as to drink anything as lowly as Lambic or that peasant's schnapps Goldschlager. anyone who drinks draught beer needs to be killed outright, immediately.

Thank you for the laughs.

Im a social drinker, I drink at parties or in groups of friends and people find me pretty damn funny (In the good way). I avoid drinking several times a week like a great deal of my other friends (But then again Im in college and this is common place). I would rather drink and lighten up, and avoid drinking alone at all costs. I suppose I would rather ward off the "mindless sensate activities" to exercising or drawing/ being artistic in general, but then again, considering I live in the future like most INTJ's, I focus on my future health when I think about drinking at that 9 out of 10 times easily helps me avoid over indulging and drinking alone.

[WaeV]

i have never been drunk. for some odd reason i feel that if i am drunk i will end up doing something really bad and have no self control. hence, havent even tried to drink.

do any of you guys feel that coz of normal control in daily life that you cant seem to let go, even for a night?

I first did it when I was alone for the night. Between sips I tried balancing and reading a book. Once I had finished the glass I felt only the physical effects, but there was no temptation to do anything outside of the norm, so I couldn't gauge that. As long as you understand the point at which you become drunk and act accordingly, you shouldn't have problems.

[Ikari Shinji]

I don't drink. In fact, I've never had even one drop of alcohol in my life. I'm 19 turning 20 in a week or two BTW.

[WaeV]

Happy Birthday!

[Nyctalop]

To quote Humphery Bogart: "I don't trust a man who doesn't drink. He's afraid of himself".

[Maayan]

I just posted this in another thread (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), but I'll repost it here because I think it's relevant. Basically, I used alcohol to persuade an INTJ to change his mind and be intimate with me.

Do you consider this to be a high digression? Would you never trust me again? Or would you remember the experience fondly? I'm very curious to hear your responses.

To clarify: I want to hear the INTJ Male's reaction to the idea of a woman taking advantage of him in this way.

I have one victory under my belt. My technique was a little brutish and disrespectful, but it got the job done. He started with a firm but respectful rejection. I ignored him and made like an uncompromising puppy dog (which makes my victory all the more incredible). We went back to his place and made out on the couch.

However! I cheated. I gave him lots of beer and used misdirection. I glided my fingers gently over his forearm while chiding him: "Oh, get over it. I'm Israeli. We're a physical culture. It doesn't mean anything." The alcohol and his nerve endings did the rest.

I was totally pleased with myself and utterly shocked. Him too. His last words? "I don't like the idea of letting you win. Don't make me regret this."

Alcohol = INTJ hax.

[WaeV]

A one night stand?

I would consider myself convinced, not manipulated.

[Maayan]

How do I convince you to do it all over again the following night?

[WaeV]

I would have had to enjoyed myself, I guess.

In my personal case I would need to either know that the relationship means something, or that it doesn't. I don't like ambiguity.

[amberlinen]

To quote Humphery Bogart: "I don't trust a man who doesn't drink. He's afraid of himself".

Yeah, because drinking under group conformity is so much better.

I don't drink because 1) alcohols taste yucky and 2) I can be easily addicted to things. The whole process of getting used to drinking a yucky liquid in order to damage your liver doesn't seem to be my life style.

I just posted this in another thread (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), but I'll repost it here because I think it's relevant. Basically, I used alcohol to persuade an INTJ to change his mind and be intimate with me..

I think you'd make a great couple because a weak man needs a resourceful woman.

[walden]

I've never drank and have no interest in ever drinking. It started off as teenage rebellion (hah!) and now that I'm a bit older I have moral issues with the alcohol industry due to the damage they cause drinkers and non-drinkers. The idea of being temporarily made into a more social person due to the effects of alcohol is tempting but I decided a while ago that I greatly prefer who I am to the type of person the people I have known become when they get to drinking.

[Maayan]

Yeah, because drinking under group conformity is so much better.

I don't drink because 1) alcohols taste yucky and 2) I can be easily addicted to things. The whole process of getting used to drinking a yucky liquid in order to damage your liver doesn't seem to be my life style.


To be fair, some alcoholic beverages are less yucky than others. (Although it is possible that some people just don't like the taste, period.) Nor do all alcoholic beverages trigger the same sensation of inebriation.


I think you'd make a great couple because a weak man needs a resourceful woman.

Out of curiosity, was that a jab at his INTJ-ness?

[Hwangdda]

How do I convince you to do it all over again the following night?



Be up front with the fact that you just want a purely physical relationship (don't know if this is what you want, but it's part of my plan). When you lay out your intentions on the table like this, it will give the INTJ some comfort. During these physical encounters, slowly reel him in. The method by which you do this depends on the individual (read and react).


If you're above being conniving and manipulative, be persistent in your pursuit. You basically have an ice pick and have the task of chipping away the INTJ's defenses which are of the Great Wall's porportions. An ESFP pursued me for quite a while, but I never reciprocated the attraction until I knew for sure that she could put up with me.


EDIT: Just realized that I forgot to touch on the thread topic. I'd much rather loosen up by way of ganja as opposed to fire water.

[walden]

Here's a good Kafka quote about alcohol. He was an INTJ.

"My peers, lately, have found companionship through means of intoxication--it makes them sociable. I, however, cannot force myself to use drugs to cheat on my loneliness--it is all that I have--and when the drugs and alcohol dissipate, will be all that my peers have as well."
-Franz Kafka

[amberlinen]

Out of curiosity, was that a jab at his INTJ-ness?

Actually I'm pretty serious in saying him being weak and you being resourceful.

[WaeV]

If you're above being conniving and manipulative, be persistent in your pursuit. You basically have an ice pick and have the task of chipping away the INTJ's defenses which are of the Great Wall's porportions. An ESFP pursued me for quite a while, but I never reciprocated the attraction until I knew for sure that she could put up with me.


Actually I'm pretty serious in saying him being weak and you being resourceful.
Meaning independent of MBTI, to further clarify.

[NovemberRain]

Once in a great while, if the circumstance is right.
:D

If you're feeling a little bit emo, drink a bit to help you sleep. If you still can't sleep, drink some more.

We should have another poll asking what drinks INTJs prefer.
*laughs out loud*
I prefer whiskey. Pure whiskey, with some ice.

Drinking can be invigorating sometimes, especially when you are listening to music.
Alone. Of course.

I seldom drink to the point where I'm drunk and full of vomit.
That's stupid.
=x

[krapyrubsnif]

My INTJ starts extroverting his feelings when he is drunk. Its rather nice in fact especially as he handles his drink pretty well. Except even though he gets more affectionate and sweet, he often looses the ability to... uh... perform... if you know what i mean. Which is a bit of a letdown.

[Nyctalop]

My INTJ starts extroverting his feelings when he is drunk. Its rather nice in fact especially as he handles his drink pretty well. Except even though he gets more affectionate and sweet, he often looses the ability to... uh... perform... if you know what i mean. Which is a bit of a letdown.

Get him some red wine and avoid spirits. A side-effect for alcohol inebriation is loss of sensitivity. If you do get it up while you're drunk, chances are you'll last longer during sex.

[krapyrubsnif]

Get him some red wine and avoid spirits. A side-effect for alcohol inebriation is loss of sensitivity. If you do get it up while you're drunk, chances are you'll last longer during sex.

Oh he drinks red wine almost exclusively. And him lasting longer wouldn't be any problem for me - he can be a little quick sometimes.

[altoid]

I'll have a drink occasionally with dinner, or out with friends. I usually only have one though. I don't fear I will "lose control" or anything, I just dislike the physical feeling of being tipsy/drunk...

[simoncpu]

I don't drink. In fact, I've never had even one drop of alcohol in my life. I'm 19 turning 20 in a week or two BTW.

You've tried cough syrup? :)

[ranwayslo]

I don't drink alcohol. I drink single malt scotch.
The correct way to drink this is to buy a bottle of: The McAllen 12+ yo, Glen Morangie 12+ yo, or Talisker 12+ yo.
Once you have acquired the correct bottle. You fill a high ball glass with ice. The ice should be mounded slightly over the top of the glass. You then pour the scotch into the glass stopping at around 1/8 inch from the top. Once you have done this then you fill the glass to the top with tonic or soda water. You have now successfully made your cocktail.
In order to correctly enjoy this cocktail you must take a small sip of the drink. With each sip you also gather some ice into your mouth and slowly swirl the scotch around until the ice has melted. Once the ice has melted you may swallow. This will increase your enjoyment of scotch exponentially.
For further enjoyment you may desire to smoke a cigar (CAO gold or Hoya de Monterey: Excalibur 1066) at the same time and to enhance the cigar experience you may choose to enjoy some dark chocolate (60% or higher Cacao). Take a small piece of your favorite dark chocolate and place it in the space between your bottom lip and gum. Allow the chocolate to melt in your mouth while smoking the cigar. Do not drink scotch while the chocolate is in your mouth.

If you follow these methods precisely you can enjoy one glass of scotch and a cigar over the course of three or four hours. I typically only do this when I have the chance to spend quiet time with my dad and my brother and one or two other close friends. A bottle of scotch can last me up to two years.

Therefore I will tell most people that I do not drink alcohol because 99% of people I know will never see me drinking.

[wittykitty]

I don't drink alcohol. I drink single malt scotch.
The correct way to drink this is to buy a bottle of: The McAllen 12+ yo, Glen Morangie 12+ yo, or Talisker 12+ yo.
Once you have acquired the correct bottle. You fill a high ball glass with ice. The ice should be mounded slightly over the top of the glass. You then pour the scotch into the glass stopping at around 1/8 inch from the top. Once you have done this then you fill the glass to the top with tonic or soda water. You have now successfully made your cocktail.
In order to correctly enjoy this cocktail you must take a small sip of the drink. With each sip you also gather some ice into your mouth and slowly swirl the scotch around until the ice has melted. Once the ice has melted you may swallow. This will increase your enjoyment of scotch exponentially.
For further enjoyment you may desire to smoke a cigar (CAO gold or Hoya de Monterey: Excalibur 1066) at the same time and to enhance the cigar experience you may choose to enjoy some dark chocolate (60% or higher Cacao). Take a small piece of your favorite dark chocolate and place it in the space between your bottom lip and gum. Allow the chocolate to melt in your mouth while smoking the cigar. Do not drink scotch while the chocolate is in your mouth.

If you follow these methods precisely you can enjoy one glass of scotch and a cigar over the course of three or four hours. I typically only do this when I have the chance to spend quiet time with my dad and my brother and one or two other close friends. A bottle of scotch can last me up to two years.

Therefore I will tell most people that I do not drink alcohol because 99% of people I know will never see me drinking.

A single malt Scotch snob too? I'm just learning about all its wonders. A good game of poker, with Scotch in hand, goes a long way :)

[ranwayslo]

A single malt Scotch snob too? I'm just learning about all its wonders. A good game of poker, with Scotch in hand, goes a long way :)

Yes, scotch and poker. Is there any better life? :toff:

[freerangequark]

Once in a great while, if the circumstance is right for me. And I don't enjoy being drunk. A slight buzz is okay though, but it usually make me tired too.

My favorite drink is sake. I also like good beer.

I'd rather get stoned.

[SeaCzar]

OK, having read ranwayslo's discription brings out the purist in me......

Take a Waterford chrystal snifter, fill 1/3 of the way with water. Put snifter in the microwave for about a minute. Remove snifter, toss out the water, and dry the inside of the glass. Fill 1/3 of the snifter with Remy Martin XO. Let small sips mingle over the back of your tongue and back teeth, then swallow. Best enjoyed with an Ashton Churchill cigar.

[BlackOp]

All this talk of whiskey and scotch is making me thirsty. I used to drink both like a fish. Blantons neat or with a cube...Oban the same. More than one brings out the cowboy though...has me reaching for my holster. I still drink beer these days...couple times a week.

[WaeV]

So my sister and I were talking the other day and she said that my mom gets all paranoid when I talk about the effects of alcohol. TBH, I think my understanding of it is better than the average teen's because I don't use it to socialize; I have it slightly more often than when my dad gives me some, and only when in a good mood (it's not a way to feel better). When I do have it, I ponder its effects on me, and don't try to do anything stupid. Can you get much safer without using it at all?





WaeV added to this post, 3 minutes and 7 seconds later...

What i find to be slightly ironic is that my favorite drink is red wine, and I'm only 17. Not that I've tried many varieties.

[Gaby]

I don't drink at all, and I really don't think I need to get drunk to feel happy...Although I live only once, I wanna spend this whole life I have with a beautiful and healthy liver :)

[kincatt]

Hasn't the medical community proved that having a glass of wine or a beer a day is beneficial???
I think so... maybe the medical community has changed their minds (again) on that though...
anyway, I need to mellow out after work and really enjoy a nice cold beer. Not a wine drinker cuz it gives me a horrible headache... So... I'm not a drunk, I may be an alcoholic by "definition" but I really don't think so, and I enjoy a beer after trying to socialize with a bunch of silly executives day in and day out. Ugh...

[Gaby]

Hasn't the medical community proved that having a glass of wine or a beer a day is beneficial???
I think so... maybe the medical community has changed their minds (again) on that though...
anyway, I need to mellow out after work and really enjoy a nice cold beer. Not a wine drinker cuz it gives me a horrible headache... So... I'm not a drunk, I may be an alcoholic by "definition" but I really don't think so, and I enjoy a beer after trying to socialize with a bunch of silly executives day in and day out. Ugh...
You are right about that. There are some substances in wine-flavanols- that are great for our health because they help decreasing LDL and increasing HDL. Plus, they can be antioxidants, anticlotting agents, anti-inflammatories. But you can have the same effect with a balanced diet.
Still, there aren't enough long-term, randomized, controlled, human trials about it. There is also the problem of great variance between wines,one will never know the amount of flavanols he/she is taking. We should also consider that it's really easy to get addicted to alcohol,so people can drink more than their needs, and then, they will have problems in the liver,neurologic disfunction...and so on.

[SRVcardsfan27]

All zee time. Right now, actually.

[Brittle]

Why Drinking Makes You Smarter

As we all know only the fittest and strongest survive in the wild, as the sickest and weakest of the species are killed off first. We also know that alcohol kills brain cells, so it makes sense that it kills of the sickest and weakest brain cells first, thereby ensuring only the stongest and smartest brain cells suvive... ergo, the more you drink, the smarter you get!


Back on topic - I drank copiously as a teen/young adult (if I had an addictive personality I would have been a fully fledged alcoholic), mainly because I found it easier to socialise when I was tanked. As I've become older I've been less and less inclined to drink and now my drinking is nothing more than the odd glass of wine with dinner. I just don't enjoy it the way I used to.

[Zephrelial]

Principally I never drink outside.At least for the past three years.The main reason for this is for safety concerns.Other people's presence at the bar or cafe or whatever place I'm drinking starts to irritate me and a risk of an incident arises.

So when I do I drink at home and alone(although not preferably) usually my drinking lasts between 48-72 hrs provided that I have time.I am not sure if I like drinking or not.At times it seems good to let the subconcious surface,to unveil the curtain and see what lies beneath you but at times you don't like what you see and what is unleashed.

Probably the greatest thing about alcohol is depending on the lvl of drunkness you actually cease to think and just live which is priceless.

[Plane Stress]

I don't. Maybe if the circumstances are right, but I like being in control of myself. Most of my ex girlfriends drank in order to hurt me. I also don't like the taste of alcohol.

[The Fury]

I don't drink alcohol. I drink single malt scotch.
The correct way to drink this is to buy a bottle of: The McAllen 12+ yo, Glen Morangie 12+ yo, or Talisker 12+ yo.
Once you have acquired the correct bottle. You fill a high ball glass with ice. The ice should be mounded slightly over the top of the glass. You then pour the scotch into the glass stopping at around 1/8 inch from the top. Once you have done this then you fill the glass to the top with tonic or soda water. You have now successfully made your cocktail.
In order to correctly enjoy this cocktail you must take a small sip of the drink. With each sip you also gather some ice into your mouth and slowly swirl the scotch around until the ice has melted. Once the ice has melted you may swallow. This will increase your enjoyment of scotch exponentially.
For further enjoyment you may desire to smoke a cigar (CAO gold or Hoya de Monterey: Excalibur 1066) at the same time and to enhance the cigar experience you may choose to enjoy some dark chocolate (60% or higher Cacao). Take a small piece of your favorite dark chocolate and place it in the space between your bottom lip and gum. Allow the chocolate to melt in your mouth while smoking the cigar. Do not drink scotch while the chocolate is in your mouth.

If you follow these methods precisely you can enjoy one glass of scotch and a cigar over the course of three or four hours. I typically only do this when I have the chance to spend quiet time with my dad and my brother and one or two other close friends. A bottle of scotch can last me up to two years.



Nononono, never dilute the taste of a great scotch, that's a sin my book. The great thing about a 12 year old is the taste, the way it moves silkily down your throat, leaving the sensation a nice warm flame in your stomach.

[Saint Alexander]

I drink regularly, but very rarely in any great amount - I'm more of a "Beer and a Burger" kind of guy, if I can get away with a beer or two a day, I'm quite happy.

[Squirelznflight]

Neverhave, never will. I don't need it, I feel no desire to drink it, and I'd rather buy books, so why bother?
The main reason, though, is that I just don't want it messing with my head in any way, shape, or form.

[Hfrog1999]

I used to avoid alcohol fearing a loss of control. Eventually, I learned that the proper amount made me relaxed and more pleasant to be around. Now, I find myself mixing a Martini or pouring a Scotch at night to relax after the kids have gone to sleep. I would classify myself as a moderate but regular drinker.

[NoStoneUnturned]

I only drink when I'm at a party and talking to a girl who is drinking. This way, we can make bad decisions together..... Instead of just me taking advantage of a bad decision...

I've never actually been drunk though. And I probably never will...

[Rho1334]

I drink about 4 times a year...thats it...never really saw the hooray in drinking.

[gestalt]

Very rarely too. I have a stigma against it due to family alcoholism.

[Briggy]

I gave up drinking over 25 years ago, and don't miss it. I started drinking earlier and stopped in my early 20's, but it was long enough for me to realize that alcohol was not my friend. For me, it was definitely a crutch to help me feel like I fit in better with those around me. When I finally learned about MBTI in my late 20's, my early feelings of being very different from other kids began to make sense. It probably also didn't help that I grew up on the only small farm left in a suburb and my parents were more than a bit eccentric.

When I first stopped drinking, I made a point of staying from my old haunts and spent the newly-found free time pursuing new hobbies and catching up on my reading. That first year sober was pretty tough, but it got easier in time. People drinking around me doesn't bother me at all these days, and hasn't for years. It's just not a choice for me and that's fine.

[Cake]

I only drink if friends have alcohol. I don't actively pursue it like I do with other substances. I really can't tolerate the taste. It usually forces my face to contort in all sorts of weird ways. Anyway if I drink, I drink because I like the feeling of looseness that permeates my body and mind. I'm not sure if I can't stand the taste because I've convinced myself it's poison or if my body genuinely hates alcohol.

I've actually drank till vomiting many times, but always had a very clear memory of the night before. So I'm going to make the assumption what I experienced was being drunk. I never actually feel I lost control of myself. I think that the loss of control is a myth. "drunk words are sober thoughts" <-- I think that saying refers to alcohol making people less inhibited. Unless you're not in a very good place psychologically I think people will remain in control on alcohol.

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. <-- it's interesting study regarding memory + booze.

[dogwoodlover]

I drink because I live in Riverside...

[Shadowstar]

I drink socially

[intellael]

I like sweet wine, zinfandel and beer. Because alcohol is a depressant and can affect one's judgment, I don't abuse it. In fact, I only drink in spurts. Usually when I'm on vacation or just off for some time I may engage.

[Kronos]

don't do social drinking. I think largely due to paranoia of having lowered defenses amongst the rabble (teehee) due to decreased cognitive capacities and inhibitions.

I'm with you completely on that count. Very rarely drink when I'm out.
However, I enjoy a glass of good red wine (preferably Chianti) or an old single malt (preferably Scottish) when I'm at home in the evening - as long as I don't have to go out again!

[ElstonGunn]

Drinking is one of my main hobbies. I like to try different cocktails and beer styles and liquors. I just had a bottle of genever recently, which I'd describe as being somewhere between gin and whiskey in both taste and color.

I do most of my drinking by myself, and most of that is at home, but I also have no problem with going to bars alone. Between being male, relatively large physically, and having raised my tolerance through experience, it takes a lot for me to get drunk, so I don't mind having a couple drinks socially if I pace myself (and if they're serving something good). But otherwise, I'm more like the inverse of a social drinker.

Regular consumption of one or two drinks per day is thought to be beneficial for your health, although if you over-do it, you lose the benefits and take on a lot of risks.

[PunkinA]

Never drinking alcohol is counter productive. Once you add a comma to this sentence it ruins the meaning.

Talk about health risks due to drinking miss the point. I drink. I don't want to live longer. I want to live faster.

[Alpha667]

Answer no. 3, only sometimes at clubs or parties. Even if I don´t go out much....Don´t drink at home at all.

[Orion79]

I do most of my drinking by myself, and most of that is at home, but I also have no problem with going to bars alone. Between being male, relatively large physically, and having raised my tolerance through experience, it takes a lot for me to get drunk, so I don't mind having a couple drinks socially if I pace myself (and if they're serving something good). But otherwise, I'm more like the inverse of a social drinker.

Regular consumption of one or two drinks per day is thought to be beneficial for your health, although if you over-do it, you lose the benefits and take on a lot of risks.

Same here except I usually save up all my drinks for the weekend.

[Pcell]

I used to drink very heavily, to the point where I could have chosen the bottom option on the poll a few times a week. I was going through a period in my life that I wasn't happy in, though, so that might have something to do with it. Needless to say, I ended up alienating people and buying lots of things online I didn't need.

Nowadays I generally drink about once a week. I don't really have the time or money for that kind of habit anymore. My life feels much clearer now, too, although sometimes I go through spells where I drink more than I should.

[Chemist]

I don't drink at all...
but my job doesn't really allow for it and strangely enough I'm allergic to it. I could never drink enough to get drunk lol! The hives and anaphylaxis would get me way before the drunkness could...

Personally I don't even like to take pain meds because they affect judgment so I think I would avoid alcohol even if I could drink it.... not because of any moral objection though... I just prefer to be in control of myself at all times...

[Lescb]

I was a member of a fraternity in college; I guess it was my attempt to be more extroverted. There I found that alcohol is 1) a good way to be more sociable, 2) delicious (especially beer), and 3) easy to underestimate.

Since then I drink maybe every other weekend, usually with friends, but on occasion I'll crack open some beers and just watch tv, clean, or catch up on some mindless busy work. And when I do drink with friends it can be anything from a couple of beers to a completely sloppy night. I'll add that, even though I regret some of those nights when I took it too far, there have been many more that turned out to be completely spontaneous (hard for me to do), immeasurably fun, and /or memorable (hah); so overall I like the stuff.

[freeeekyyy]

I'm a pretty regular consumer of alcoholic beverages. But I do respect it and don't get drunk. Drinking is fine(in fact some say there are health benefits to moderate alcohol consumption), becoming intoxicated is counterproductive.

[VagusX]

I haven't been drunk in years, but I do drink about three scotches a week.

[Vagrant]

I'm only a social drinker. I find no appeal in the taste of ethanol, but jager or some of the lighter drinks overcome that, and the ethanol makes me more relaxed and social.

[BrooklynBoy]

I don't drink on a regular basis but now and then I enjoy a good single malt scotch like
Glenlivet.

[Polymath]

Drinking is overall a roughly neutral experience for me, and that's not taking into account that it costs money and isn't the healthiest thing in the world. I only do it when not doing so would seem rude. It provides a small pleasurable buzz, but it also lowers my coordination, intelligence and self-control, and I like to have those attributes at their maxima at all times. Also, the more others drink, the less I enjoy their company. From where I'm standing, they don't become "fun," they just become any combination of unintelligent, emotional, boring, clumsy, cruel, annoying, impulsive and so on.

[BuShinJu]

From about 16 to 25 I used to drink on most weekends and would drink to get drunk. I would frequently throw up at the end of the night. Nothing like a good carthartic chuck. Better out than in. I even mastered the spew and walk at the same time, with no change in stride. This one time, I was at a party and I was smashed and lying on a sloped driveway, got up on my hands and knees to have a chuck and then had to back pedal because it was rolling after me.

The last five to ten years I have been cutting back, drinking only for medicinal purposes or having a couple at special events. Mainly because I realised some of my friends are actual alcoholics, drink everyday, get smashed on the weekends, never have any money.

[i r teh noobz]

I started drinking at age 16 just to get drunk. I'm 21 now, and have learned my limits and what happens when I cross them. I drink regularly (I'm drunk right now). I work a second shift job, so its no big deal if I get buzzed or even wasted daily. I'm a very harsh critic of my beers (I don't do much wine or liquor), respecting flavor and crafting over price or ABV. I look down upon "lite" beers like Miller and Bud, and my E type friend hates me for this (he says I'm an arrogant bastard, which is actually a good brew. Look it up sometime). I tend to use booze as a crutch in social situations, as it shuts down the logical side of my mind and lets me socialize and enjoy myself more than I normally would, though I tend to over drink at times. I know when I've had too much, but I usually realize this after making an ass of myself. I have a high tolerance and I rarely drink to the point of vomiting (having done so, I know how bad it sucks).

I come from a long line of alcoholics and drug addicts. Three of my grandparents are/were alcoholics, as was my mother (she sobered up when she caught me drinking). My father was addicted to dope for most of my life, only giving it up because it messed with his Hepatitis C meds. He got hep from shooting heroin in his 20s. I smoke tobacco when I drink, but not sober, if it matters to anyone. All of my parents and grandparents smoke(d).

I find it funny that as a child, I thought drinking was a terrible habit that I would never pick up. My mother once told me that I didn't love her because I wouldn't let her drive to the store drunk. I swore I would never drink. Here I am, 7 years later, drinking every day. Irony at its best.

[freeeekyyy]

I started drinking at age 16 just to get drunk. I'm 21 now, and have learned my limits and what happens when I cross them. I drink regularly (I'm drunk right now). I work a second shift job, so its no big deal if I get buzzed or even wasted daily. I'm a very harsh critic of my beers (I don't do much wine or liquor), respecting flavor and crafting over price or ABV. I look down upon "lite" beers like Miller and Bud, and my E type friend hates me for this (he says I'm an arrogant bastard, which is actually a good brew. Look it up sometime). I tend to use booze as a crutch in social situations, as it shuts down the logical side of my mind and lets me socialize and enjoy myself more than I normally would, though I tend to over drink at times. I know when I've had too much, but I usually realize this after making an ass of myself. I have a high tolerance and I rarely drink to the point of vomiting (having done so, I know how bad it sucks).

I come from a long line of alcoholics and drug addicts. Three of my grandparents are/were alcoholics, as was my mother (she sobered up when she caught me drinking). My father was addicted to dope for most of my life, only giving it up because it messed with his Hepatitis C meds. He got hep from shooting heroin in his 20s. I smoke tobacco when I drink, but not sober, if it matters to anyone. All of my parents and grandparents smoke(d).

I find it funny that as a child, I thought drinking was a terrible habit that I would never pick up. My mother once told me that I didn't love her because I wouldn't let her drive to the store drunk. I swore I would never drink. Here I am, 7 years later, drinking every day. Irony at its best.
Yes, arrogant bastard is good stuff. If you like that, try a dead guy. Another fine beer in the american strong ale category. Anyway, yes, drinking is also helpful to shut down social inhibitions and open yourself up in ways you would not normally do.

[GenessorDios]

I've only been drunk 3 times in my life, all from absinthe, which ranged from 150 to 160 proof. I figured a higher alcohol content would get me drunker quicker, so why bother with any other drinks? I hate the taste of all alcoholic beverages, but I did enjoy being drunk. Might do it again if the conditions were the same as before (3-4 close friends, in one of our apartments, celebrating something).

I've been to a few bars, pubs & clubs, would never drink in those places, much less get drunk. Atmosphere's just not right for me.

[i r teh noobz]

Yes, arrogant bastard is good stuff. If you like that, try a dead guy. Another fine beer in the american strong ale category. Anyway, yes, drinking is also helpful to shut down social inhibitions and open yourself up in ways you would not normally do.

Way ahead of you. Dead Guy Ale is one of my favorites. In fact, I'm trying to get my local bar to get it on tap for me.

[Mahler]

I will occasionally pair a nice meal with wine or beer. Excluding mealtime, I prefer Johnnie Walker Black or an Islay single malt usually cut with just a little bit of water, but no ice.

In my 20's I used to drink regularly and more frequently, but now I try to keep it more social and/or sporadic. As so many have mentioned above, alcohol can be very efficient at lowering our inhibitions. However, I prefer not to use it to do such on any regular basis anymore. I found that when I drank with any regularity, I began to rely ever so slightly more on drinking to accomplish relaxation. Perhaps this is why alcoholism is considered such a sinister and at times imperceptible vice.

Simply put, I learn more about myself and feel better when I face my inhibitions or social anxieties sober rather than relying on alcohol as a crutch, especially if it is used regularly.

Cheers!

[freeeekyyy]

Way ahead of you. Dead Guy Ale is one of my favorites. In fact, I'm trying to get my local bar to get it on tap for me.
If you'd like to get a little more adventurous (you enjoy IPAs) try Pliny the Elder from the Russian River Brewing Company. One of the best all around IPAs you'll ever try, no question about it. Or if you prefer maltier styles, try a Mirror Mirror from Deschutes. It's a bit rare, and is best aged for a while, but it's an absolutely awesome barleywine.

[themuzicman]

I never liked the taste of alcohol, so I don't drink it, unless there is some social expectation. doesn't happen often at all.

[thiagofralves]

I like to drink at parties and social gatherings. And beer is my drink of choice, even though I try other things occasionally, like wine. And I'm very clear that I only drink to get drunk, otherwise I see no point in even doing it. Oh, yeah, and I really like beers like Hoegaarden, Duvel, etc. They're among the ones I enjoy the most... it's a shame they're so expensive around here.

[AnnoyingPony]

I only drink at social gatherings, but I just love the taste of wine...

(A nice chianti? Just kidding.)

[sage33]

I don't really drink. Except on social occasions where I usually have just one drink. I don't particularly like the taste of alcohol but I do enjoy tropical alcoholic drinks and wine.

[schizophrenia]

I can say I've found myself in this chair with a bottle of wine and a mickey of vodka.

[fwiffo]

I used to drink fairly regularly, and I would personally finish off 2 bottles of wine every week. However, I've cut back to maybe 1 drink every few weeks since I've started exercising. I don't want the alcohol to interfere with my muscle development.

[Kmal]

I rarely ever drink. It's fun though, in small to moderate doses. Getting shit faced drunk is retarded though and is a waste of my life, imo. I like getting high better.

The buzzes of alcohol are different for me. Whiskey is kind of numbing, while tequila is energizing. Beer is my favorite buzz. Never had red wine though.

[alphaecho4386]

I'm a regular drinker. I only do it when i'm going out or in social events. I rarely drink alone. I agree with Kmal though, getting shit faced is pretty retarded. Maybe every few months I'll get pretty sauced, so long as there is nothing to do. Sometimes a Hangover weekend is all I want as it prevents me from being too productive and just relax.

Beer is fun, but if it isn't being chugged I stay at that awkward, depressed, lonely stage for far too long. I'm a big guy so I tend to drink alot to get over that hump. Whiskey tho is my drink of choice.

I like getting high better.

Agreed. Although with job hunting and testing I can't enjoy the greener side of life;)

[jonam87]

I drink beer fairly often at home or out with friends, but only a few. At home I like to drink a few beers when relaxing, it helps me sort through things in my mind. I don't enjoy getting drunk though, its fun once I'm smashed but the taste is repulsive when drinking liquor or a lot of beer and I feel like complete shit afterward.

[AtheneNoctua]

Often in social party situations alcohol becomes a necessity in order for me to have few enough brain cells for me to actually enjoy myself.
Regretfully, when I am a little intoxicated I do have a habit of correcting grammmar in a very loud voice and going through historical timelines....

[Hydro]

At home I prefer a good wine. It helps me thinking about the all kind of problems.

In a social environment I prefer lots of beer what might be related to the fact that I'm German. (You have to meet people’s expectations...):dozey:

[wmsonta]

Seldom.

When young, I drank regularly to be around more available ladies. More= quantity. Never cared about it. I like the taste of some hard liquors, do not like the loss of control. When I would go to bars, something about me would irritate drunks. Few good outcomes. I have not intentionally went into a bar since '73.

In 1973, evidently God whispered some stuff to a judge. That judge told me I should not drink anymore. He did not whisper. I believed him.

DCS. During Child Support, I could not justify the cost. I measure my life BCS, DCS, ACS.

There is booze in my home all the time, I drink New Years Eve. Seldom otherwise.

[IronKingLeo]

Huge groups of people and/or those I'm not familiar with can be a bit of a pain to deal with. Alcohol, however, helps quell the uncomfortable feel of merely being in the presence of a crowd. There are too many cons that come with alcohol use and I know that I need to improve my social skills. It just seems like such a tough obstacle, especially since I have been attending business-type events since early middle school. I know how to talk just fine, but the feeling/presence of others never goes away, it can be a bit much sometimes. Sometimes, I just think social situations are just going to be one of my weaknesses, that I'll have to make up for in other areas.

It's kind of nice to know I'm not the only one that deals with this though.

[Sk8ordude]

Alcohol is terrible for people, its bad for the brain, bad for the liver, bad for the throat, stomach, mouth, other stuff... It causes addiction, its a leading cause of death, it lowers mens testosterone levels for a full 24+ hours, and disrupts normal protein absorption along with the absorption of vitamins and minerals and other good stuff... Smokeless marijuana use is where its at, from all fronts.

But... I have a shot every so often anyways. POISON still.

[Ragman]

I drink regularly. I'm drinking whiskey right now and have had about six shots in the past hour or so. I have no intentions of stopping.

I drink because it makes me feel better. It's an escape valve from how miserable I normally feel.

[BirdValiant]

I'm not sure which poll option I should've chosen, but I chose the "I drink regularly..." one. I drink alcoholic beverages rather often, but in small amounts and very rarely enough to get drunk. Mostly, I drink beer, for the taste: there's a whole world of tastes out there, and why would I restrict myself to that just because there's some alcohol dissolved in them? I also don't solely drink socially, since many of the drinks I have are by myself, again for the taste. I tend not to drink wine due to its high price relative to beer, which can be consumed bottle-by-bottle over weeks.

The things I drink, in order of volume, are:
water
orange juice (typically a glass in the morning)
beer
milk
tea
trace amounts of others

[mindvirus]

I'm 23 and I don't drink. The substance touched my tongue years back when I was 14/15 (It was only a sip/slurp though). Have not touched it since.

[orbit79]

Non drinker here, just never really saw much of a point. I like to be in control of my decision making. Makes things at parties a bit awkward at times, particularly around new people, but I guess party's for a lot of 'I' types are somewhat awkward, particularly possibly INTJs, could be wrong though.

[Paul Siraisi]

I couldn't answer the poll. For years I considered it normal to have a beer or two at the end of the day. Then I noticed after about 15 years of this that I have a slight skin reaction to constant alcohol exposure, and the beer was making me fat. So I now have a rule: I drink 2-3 beers on Friday only, like clockwork. When on vacation I remove the rule and drink at will (and then occasionally regret it). But I never drink the night before work. This regime works well for me. I'm also physically unable to tolerate--will start feeling sick from--more than about 3 beers in 2 hours.

[Acacia]

I drink a lot when I go out with friends - they give the drunk me a different name, because the difference is so drastic. A positive difference - for them. They loveee when I come out drinking with them because I'm fun, go lucky, love dancing, make it my personal mission to get everyone else dancing and partying, laugh, love everyone, make a bajillion new friends - the world is my friend- whereas when I'm sober - I'm (for the most part) a full throttle INTJ - which needless to say isn't the most fun in the traditional sense of the word.

So I guess what it comes down to is being an INTJ can be socially taxing - its nice to be able to get rid of my INTJness and let the more subdued fun loving parts of my personality come out and play.

[blackLieutenant]

I drink a lot when I go out with friends - they give the drunk me a different name, because the difference is so drastic. A positive difference - for them. They loveee when I come out drinking with them because I'm fun, go lucky, love dancing, make it my personal mission to get everyone else dancing and partying, laugh, love everyone, make a bajillion new friends - the world is my friend- whereas when I'm sober - I'm (for the most part) a full throttle INTJ - which needless to say isn't the most fun in the traditional sense of the word.

So I guess what it comes down to is being an INTJ can be socially taxing - its nice to be able to get rid of my INTJness and let the more subdued fun loving parts of my personality come out and play.

Personally, I don't need booze to be fun, or having fun. Alcohol makes me sleepy actually.

It's just a myth, an excuse for people to be themselves. I could bring a "placebo" booze, people would act "drunk" too.

I do enjoy (love) rhum, vodka, tropical cocktails etc...mmmmmm with ice pleaZe biacth !

[ndralcasid]

Drinking is a strange phenomenon. I recognize at it's core, it IS pretty pointless. However, there's just that unexplainable feeling about it that makes it fun. I do indeed do it pretty often.

[Dusk]

I not a very big drinker. I do enjoy a glass of good scotch, every now and then

Drinking is a strange phenomenon. I recognize at it's core, it IS pretty pointless. However, there's just that unexplainable feeling about it that makes it fun. I do indeed do it pretty often.

It's not really that strange. People do plenty of things that are bad for them but enjoyable.

[Reddkatz]

Actually I would change my stance now. I am actually curious about alcohol and the effects it does to me. Since I started with everclear, I can work my way down now.

[xboss360]

I love to get stupidly drunk once every month or two with fun people.

I always have so much fun, but it's not fun at all to do it all the time.

[Kmal]

alcohol is most certainly fun in moderation. the trick is, to not drink enough TO LOSE CONTROL; which seems to be the main concern with most of the non drinkers.

[Reddkatz]

Well my experience with everclear was interesting. I didn't drink a lot to where I was drunk, I was very very buzzed. I didn't become extremely extroverted or anything, but I was a lot more conscious of what I was doing. Also physically my face was burning up like I had a high fever, and it actually felt like I was taking a combination of Demerol and Valium. If anyone has ever had a colonoscopy before, that is what you are given for anesthesia. I remembered everything I did that night. So I would like to experience it with something not so strong this time.

[Kmal]

taking shots of liquor is the easiest way to gauge how much alcohol you can drink and how it affects you. personally, i like tequila and rum, though anything is acceptable i suppose.

how many shots of everclear did you take? and in how long of a period?

[Reddkatz]

I had a total of 2 shots and then a drink mixed with everclear. The 2nd shot was about 15-20 minutes of the first one, followed by the slowly drinking of the mixed drink. I started drinking around 11 pm, and by around 3 am I was sobered enough to drive home. I wouldn't mind trying rum, as long as it's mixed in with something. But I won't touch tequila. I only drank everclear because a friend of mine kept bugging me :P

[ZerroDefex]

I'm a beer snob, if it's only cheap crap that's available I won't bother drinking it. The taste of a good-quality beer is important to me, if I just wanted to be drunk I'd hit the hard liquor instead.

[cazandria]

I can't drink very often, as I'm on several medications with "Don't drink" labels. But at parties, I'll have a few drinks - and this is once in a blue moon, as I don't often go to parties. Generally, I feel alcohol is unproductive, but occasionally I'll get the urge to get drunk to unwind - before the meds, I would sometimes take a night for myself with a few episodes of Doctor Who or perhaps a good book and a bottle of wine - and damn it if I didn't finish the whole thing.

[lucky12]

beer, liquor, wine whatever.. whenever i feel its necessary, or whenever friends are getting drunk and I have the cash to join in. We always play drinking games, which gets us all on the same level of drunkenness, sometimes it can be a bonding thing.

In high school I was able to funnel 40's of beer with a 50% success rate, the good the bad or the ugly could show up at any time.

[digger]

I like a beer when I've been working in the yard and need refreshment. A cold beer is the best then. Some times I will have a drink when I'm tired of soft drinks and want a change.
But I don't usually have more than one.

[Med Chemist]

I drink all the time. I hate it. Makes me feel so weak like I have no control. I am a chemist creating drugs that will cure Alzheimer's diease..that is one outlet...I can't stop thinking...I think all the time. I can't sleep. I can't stop dwelling and fixing / improving things. I find after 10-12 beers a day the thoughts go away and I can sleep. I also used hard and soft drugs to quiet the thoughts. I guess I need help. I found this forum through google serach...why do INTJs drink

[TheStranger]

Depressants are one of the very few things that can alleviate my anxiety; I used to induge pretty often.

[Imperator]

I'm not drunk right now, but I am enjoying a glass of bourbon, sitting alone in my room, wearing nothing but boxers.

My standard for any given day is Powers Irish Whiskey (good on its own, awesome when you consider its price). On days where I feel like treating myself, it's usually Old Grand Dad 114.

When I've got extra spending money, I shop around and try new things.

Like most other Professionals have discussed, there's a correct way to drink. I usually only have 1-2 on social occasions, if anything.

[DREW87]

I drink often and heavily, but its very difficult for me to get drunk..... the good old days when it used to be so easy are long gone.

Actually, reading into INTJism (no spunk reference intended) I can see that a lot of my drinking is in relation to my frustration with others, the world is an ocean of idiots so why not drown myself.

[Fubudis]

I didn't like the poll options.

I don't drink ever, but I don't think its universally "counter-productive".

I don't particularly like the taste and getting tipsy/drunk interferes with my strength training progressions, so I just abstain. Anyone with different tastes and life goals could easily drink in moderation and it would be productive in both a social sense and in appealing to their desires.

[WindUp]

I only drink socially and not very often anymore. The last time I drank was weeks ago (possibly over a month). I get terrible hangovers, so it's not something I enjoy doing very much. Plus, I don't think it's all THAT enjoyable. I used to enjoy it a lot more when my hangovers were few and far between and I didn't get terribly sick from drinking certain types of alcohol (I am forever traumatized by any sort of blush and any sort of jagermeister).

[nogginonwheels]

Now I would not class myself as anything close to that of an alcoholic *sips from beer-can* but I do very much enjoy getting drunk, it has a wide array of effects which are for the most part beneficial:
- My attention span increases massively
- It causes my brain to wind down and frees me from higher analytical thought, worries, and long term concerns
- It acts as a social catalyst (throw a crate of beer in a room full of people and they will soon be talking and laughing)
- It (beer) enhances the flavour of savoury items to an insane degree (pizza, tortillas, and pretzels)
- It also enhances the senses (visual input becomes more surreal and intense and movement feels disengaged and spacey)
- It brings me down to most people’s level of thinking (kills brain cells)
- It guarantees a good night sleep
- Due to all of the above it makes me happy (a much required change from my usual state of gloomy antipathy)

(and if you hadn’t quite guessed from the above and my display picture I love beer ^_^)

[Zebu Fellenz]

I like to have a beer or mixed drink every once in a while, really anywhere from once a month to 2-3 a week depending on my mood.

I generally drink alone, I find it helps me relax after a long day, there are few things I enjoy more than a peaceful evening nursing a drink and checking out new music.

[mllebrie]

I hardly ever drink. I can count the number of drinks I've had on one hand, probably. When I was in Poland I downed some juice glasses of vodka, because it was polite and I basically had to, but... the last thing I need in my life is more craziness.

Plus, alcohol interacts with my meds. :)

[LOL WUT]

I drink every weekend, fri and sat. Why? Because:

a) turns off my brain
b) makes me confident
c) breaks down emotional barriers (I like to let em out every once in a while)
d) I've managed to make myself a social butterfly at parties
e) I prefer to "loose control" if loose control means being spontaneous and fun

Regardless of what you want to say about d), I don't fuck up when I've been drinking unless I mean to. The big brain is always in control, it still strategies and uses tactics regardless of what state I'm in.

[rawringrawrs]

I don't drink a drop and have never been drunk. I've just had a few mouthfuls here and there years back.

Out of curiosity, are there any INTJs here that are/were into the straight-edge subculture?

[AlyssC01]

I don't drink at all as I am very sensitive to alcohol.
I also don't like how it impairs my self control, I become too chatty when drunk and I say things without thinking. It's not a habit that I appreciate (and, if I indulge in it, I have no call to reprimand other people for talking without thinking).

[Equinox]

I have never had alcohol ever, and I never will have any.

[AureliaSeverina]

I drink 1-3 cocktails about twice a year: on my best friend's birthday and on my own birthday. Very occasionally I'll have a glass of wine.
The only time I was ever drunk in my life was when I stayed at a youth hostel in London and this Australian girl suggested "street drinking". She got a 2 litre bottle of cheap lemonade and poured 2 small bottles of vodka into it and we passed it round between 3 or 4 people. Then we walked around for a bit and there's about half an hour completely missing from my memory. I didn't feel sick or anything, but I can't say I'd like to repeat that experience.

[UKobsessed]

I have never had a real "drink" as I am underage and never met anyone who drinks at my age who I have liked enough to spend time with. As far as I can predict, I will drink someday. Probably with dinner or at a social event. Although, I've tried sips of beer and wine (parents) and I have to say it tasted absolutely disgusting. I tried some margarita once and liked that. We'll see.

[hamlet9]

I used to be a pretty heavy drinker. My tolerance was high and I needed about 6 shots of brandy to get drunk. I gave it up two years ago, though I still have a beer every now and then (maybe a few times a year). There are a lot of alcoholics in my extended family, so I have reason to think my thirst was partly genetic. Or maybe what they say about writers is true...

[qstoffe]

I have never been drunk. I have taken some brief sips for the sake of tasting. IMO anything with alcohol in it tastes like shit. The more % of alcohol the worse the taste. This combined with my unwillingness of losing control is the reason I never drink.

[JackCY]

I try to not drink, and that is what I prefer, not drinking alcohol.
I do not like to poison my body.

I did try it in the past and sometimes do have a small beer with meal at restaurant, but it's really rare.

Getting me to stop thinking is impossible, yes I tend to talk more etc.
Been badly drunk only once in life and it was one of the worst days ever.
I know how to get drunk fast or not to get drunk almost at all, that comes in handy when somebody gets a stupid idea of getting me drunk. They have failed on their last try :p
It's too bad that other people usually don't understand some people do not enjoy drinking and can have enough fun without it.

[Xyz]

I don't like the actual drinking part, I just generally don't like the taste of alcohol..
I don't mind being drunk though, it's actually kind of fun.

[aniratak]

I've been drunk/ buzzed a handful of times, and don't think it's fun at all. Then again, I'm a unabashed control freak with a penchant for caffeine and sugar.

If I'm in a social environment, I may deliberately carry around an open beer so that I may infiltrate the masses and engage in social discussion with my more inebriated peers without having to share their diminished perception.

I only employ this tactic as I often get dirty, condescending looks when I tell people, "I don't drink.", before they tell me in not so many words to take a hike.

[Bezukhov]

I don't like the options in this poll. I'm not a social drinker and don't attend many parties. I like to have a beer when I'm at home after work. I'm a beer aficionado. I treat it as others treat wine or cheese.

Plus, I would prefer different terminology. I think of "drinking" as an action in pursuit of getting drunk. I consume beer for its own sake.

[Sparkx]

I get tired too easily with alcohol, plus I don't like killing brain cells....and I'm way funner hopped up on five to seven Red Bulls :)

[mindstate]

I drink beer from a can while doing home improvement projects...heh. I also drink at bbq's and on Friday nights with company. I drank a lot more when I had a bad relationship for a while.

[21oPlato]

I'm sort of a beer snob. But, I'll drink BMC if I have to. I make beer, wine & Mead. I currently have 6gal of Chianti & 6 gal Pinot Noir & 4gal of Mead ready to bottle. I'm also, a beer judge. I do also do beer & some wine traveling & reading.

Oh, Gaby, if your worried about your liver, try Milk Thistle before or right after drinking.

[Income]

Social lubricant, not so much, I don't drink often because mostly I would rather smoke weed. I mostly smoke just to calm my mind down. But when necessary I do believe that alchohol is liquid courage.
Same here. Alcohol < weed. Atleast in Sweden, many people think you go crazy after smoking which makes my socially akward behavior more acceptable, even more than if I'm drunk. This has saved me a few times.

[BuShinJu]

I used to binge drink on the weekends. Go out with a certain group of friends, get absolutly hammered, have heaps of fun and then throw up on the walk home. It was very taxing on the body and mind and couldn't be maintained. I realised it was a distraction from emotional problems.

Now I have 2 social beers per week. Exercise has taken the place of drinking, still have the emotional problems but I think light drinking, heavy exercise is a much better lifestyle.

[theiceman]

I'm straight-edge so drinking is completely out of the question. I have several reasons that I do not drink:

1. Getting drunk makes you do things that you ordinarily wouldn't do. I'm comfortable with what I would do in most situations so I would not change that at all. I don't want to wake up with a hangover and the fact that I did something that I would consider completely stupid.
2. Drinking usually means you don't stop at one. While I will admit to everybody here I am a person of great discipline, I'd rather remove the possibility that I could potentially get drunk instead of playing with the odds of not being able to stop at one.
3. Drinking usually leads to social situations. I'd rather stay away from unnecessary social situations because I'm socially inept and could potentially make myself look incredibly stupid. This really goes with #1. I'd rather not make a fool out of myself if there is the potential that I could do that.
4. Once you start drinking people will ask you to drink a lot. They want to become drinking buddies with you or see you drunk again. If you say no then you will just be considered a buzz-kill and left alone. Although this hasn't been in the case of my life because people saw it as a conquest to make me drink (and it failed for them).
5. Inebriation leads to a loss of control. I'm a control freak as you could have assumed from my reasons above. Losing controls of my emotions, actions or feelings is one of the worst case scenarios in my life. I'm usually in control of my emotions and actions and I'd rather keep it that way because of reasons 1-3.
6. Resisting drinking helps you get used to resisting peer pressure. People will begin to see you as a person who they can't pressure into certain situations. When I started rejecting people who asked if I wanted to drink with them it got easier as I did it more. It was almost like I had to practice at getting better at it. These days it's so easy to resist the temptation to go out drinking because it's been ingrained in me and I've been doing it for so long.

I have other reasons but these are the main points. INTJ's don't drink a lot probably because drinking (like smoking) is a social action and we aren't very social creatures. However, I've seen posts on here about people drinking before but they mainly did it with their close friends.

[GSOgymrat]

I don't drink alcohol. I don't like the taste (beer is particularly vile), it is expensive, I don't like the feeling of intoxication and it can have bad consequences if abused. I've never used recreational drugs and have no desire to do so. I'm happy with my brain the way it is.

[Kuroneko]

I hadn't read all the discussion, I will just tell my case:

I quit drinking alcohol at all when I realize that I was using it as an anaesthesia for unpleasant social situations; I was getting the habit of being a bit drunk when around people in order to be more "acceptable", i.e. to appear more outgoing and, at the same time, to have an excuse for potential faux pas. I realized it was a very dangerous path and I decided it was easier to stop at all rather than to try and be "moderate".

[coldheat]

I'm 21 and have only tried a sip of wine a few times over the past few months and that is it. I've never had an interest in alcohol. My brothers are the type where alchohol is an important part of their lives, and my dad used to be the same up until the late 90's. The fact that they like it is reason enough for me not to drink.

I've never been the type to go to parties. Only 1 of my high school friends drank. I went to a couple of his parties along with another non-drinking friend and was bored out of my mind. The type of people I know that live that lifestyle don't have much to say that I care to listen to, my brothers included, so I've always kept my distance from them. I've considered getting drunk with an INTJ friend just for the sake of knowing what it is like. But I've also had a lot of stress and anxiety with school and I don't want to do it to try to get away from my troubles. I don't want to like it too much. I guess it's not really the alchohol, but the people that typically use it that turns me off.

[applemacfolife]

Reasons I don't drink and will never drink:

I don't like the idea of reducing my self-control
I could be taken advantage of while drunk
I could make a bad decision while drunk
There are few things that aggravate me more than a drunk (or even just a drinking) person
People frequently use alcohol & other drugs to self-medicate their psychological/emotional problems. It would be more beneficial to try to harmonize your life or seek a legitimate problem for your psychological issues. Drinking could be seen as harmful, because self-medicating would prevent one from seeking legitimate help
It seems ridiculous to me that people will carpet-bomb their nervous system just to fit in socially. If your friends are only your friends when drinking, they are not your friends.
Fermented anything smells absolutely disgusting to me. I can't imagine purposely drinking that stuff.

[coldheat]

Well put, lifelonglego. I've thought about trying alchohol lately, but I've also been feeling a lot of anxiety the past couple weeks. If I am going to try it I want to make sure I really want to do it, and I'm not just doing it on impulse or because I think it'll ease the way I feel. I closely associate drinking with people that I have no respect for, which really turns me off to it. I doubt I'll ever get drunk.

[GSOgymrat]

I'm pleased to find there are other people who think about alcohol the way I do. I didn't think of my choice not to use alcohol as an INTJ characteristic.

[pransterrr]

Haha, sounds exactly like me. I talk incessantly with alcohol in my blood, so I tend to avoid the drug.

---------- Post added 12-25-2011 at 09:26 PM ----------

Don't be afraid to at least "try it". You won't become an alcoholic drinking once, and then you'll be able to really understand what drinking is. Remember, idiots and alcohol are only correlated, there's no real causation. I've had some great times drinking, to excess at times, but I don't regret it. I know I'm no less intelligent because of it, if anything I've gotten more out of it. Don't put so much weight on the decision!

[21oPlato]

I do drink beverages that contain alcohol. But, not straight alcohol. Matter of fact, I make beer, wine & mead (very geeky hobby). I'm also an official beer judge. As an INTJ I've done allot of reading on beer, incl. history (eg. 18th & 21st amendments [AKA Prohibition) & in-depth beer making).

FWIW Fermentation is a natural process.

One of life's lessons:
"No one make it out alive."

[christof]

I do not drink as at this point of life i cannot afford the next day hangover. I love to be in control and alcohol would just give to much of that up.

[Aboni]

I never drink an alcohol, it's my own choice.

[Cupcake13]

Social drinker.

I think it's because it numbs the pain of coming back to the "real world".