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Cesare Borgia
03-12-2009, 07:35 AM
Anyone else had this problem? nothing happens when i put any type of CD media in my PS3, everything else is perfectly fine though.....

Ill be damned if i pay Sony a cent to fix it when it's their fault, all was fine until this morning, no odd sounds, no error messages........it just stopped working out of the blue. Games/DVD/Blue ray go in and nothing happens, downloaded games and movies work fine but the disks don't do shit.

I got to doing some research and discovered that a great many people have this same issue and that in a great many cases it was after upgrading the firmware to version 2.60, i have wrote Sony twice and spoke on the phone with supervisors, so far i am not getting anywhere, the best they have came with is the offer of a free game to compensate me (a game i cant play unless i pay Sony $150 to fix THEIR fuck up). this seems to mostly affect the 40,60 and 80GB systems manufactured in mid to late 07, so far Sony is standing by their denial story claiming the systems must have been malfunctioned BEFORE the update and just so happened by coincidence to finally give out RIGHT as soon as they were updated.

I have sent complaints to the BBB, Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Affairs and am currently going back and forth with some lying bitch at Sony. There is also a class action suit being set up by someone over the "yellow light error" and over the Blue ray malfunctions, the aim is to get Sony to do the honest thing and own up to their mistake in the way Microsoft did, we hope that Sony will extend their warranty to cover the specific machines for 3 years and repair the affected PS3s no questions asked.

After my first letter Sony hit a nerve by suggesting it was my fault my Blue Ray drive failed, so i fired this reply off at them.

Christina B, why don't you guys over at Sony take a look around and see for yourself, even if the update itself was not to blame ( for the sake of argument) , the blame still sits square on Sony's shoulders for manufacturing a faulty blue ray drive, its absurd how Sony will not even acknowledge the wide spread yellow light malfunction let alone the blue ray malfunction, you people over there need to do the honest thing and help us people who have invested thousands of dollars in our machines, without US Sony would be nothing, i avoided Microsoft for this very reason thinking that the PS3 would not suffer the same fate as the XBOX, now i wish i would have went with Microsoft, at least they did the decent thing and owned up to their mistakes.

How about you explain to me how come only certain models have experienced this malfunction? and how about you explain the statement Sony previously put out regarding a past update causing problems, i am quickly losing patience with Sony's attitude over this situation, you people seem to think that we need YOU more than you need US, well i got news for you, all the customers that you have alienated over these issues and all the customers that have lost money over this will go to your rivals next time around, frankly, i would not be one bit surprised if a class action law suit was brought forward because of how Sony has handled this and other situations. It's highly insulting that i have spent tens of thousands of dollars on Sony products yet you guys think so little of me, i suspect that your reasons for not taking responsibility are related to all the negitive comments you people made about Microsoft's reliability (them comments would probably come back and bite you if word got out)

Long story short, Sony has forever lost me and many other people i know as customers, i hope you guys are happy, rather that pay you greedy people another $150 of my hard earned dollars i will instead put that $150 towards a XBOX 360 and return EVERY LAST Sony item i have, i will also encourage others to do the same so that they dont end up losing their money as well. (My cousin just returned his PS3 and Sony Bravia today). Good luck in the future, you people are going to need it.

I await their reply, also today i will have my cousin bring over his PS3 (same model number and same manufacture date) and i will use my Camcorder to document how it works just fine, then without cutting the camera i will connect his PS3 to the internet and download the 2.60 update and capture proof that their update is to blame (this will be evidence). The same exact thing happened to my brother in laws PS3 as well.

Them lying cocksuckers aint getting away with not fixing my system or returning my money, the ONLY compromise i will make is if i get a 3 year warranty if i send it in to be repaired for $150. its a matter of principal now.

Ted
03-13-2009, 07:53 PM
Wow, now you've made me fear updating my ps3. -.- I guess it was good that I read this though.

Cesare Borgia
03-14-2009, 05:07 PM
I recorded the process and as it turns out, his now no longer reads Disk media.

Ted
03-14-2009, 08:31 PM
You said this affects 40, 60, and 80 gig ps3s made in mid-late '07. That includes the one that comes with motorstorm right? I guess I shouldn't go online on my ps3 for now





Ted added to this post, 10 minutes and 58 seconds later...

Apparently if you download it from pc and then transfer it to your ps3, it solves the problem:

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They also said that whenever you download updates directly from your ps3, you run to risk of having errors. Reading up of these is scaring the hell outa me =\





Ted added to this post, 4 minutes and 49 seconds later...

Oh and apparently formatting the ps3 hard drive with a computer might solve this problem.

I'll wait and see how it goes for you, keep me posted.

Cesare Borgia
03-15-2009, 09:03 AM
You said this affects 40, 60, and 80 gig ps3s made in mid-late '07. That includes the one that comes with motorstorm right? I guess I shouldn't go online on my ps3 for now





Ted added to this post, 10 minutes and 58 seconds later...

Apparently if you download it from pc and then transfer it to your ps3, it solves the problem:

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They also said that whenever you download updates directly from your ps3, you run to risk of having errors. Reading up of these is scaring the hell outa me =\





Ted added to this post, 4 minutes and 49 seconds later...

Oh and apparently formatting the ps3 hard drive with a computer might solve this problem.

I'll wait and see how it goes for you, keep me posted.

From what i have seen, 40, 60 and 80GB seem to be the most affected, in some cases where the damage is not fatal to the laser, a reformat may help but in my case it was the deathblow to my PS3.

When i spoke to the support people they had a certain smugness about them and told me how Firmware issues that render a PS3 useless are "not our problem", they then told me to read through the terms. I personally think it's utter bullshit that they can recommend and in many cases force the Firmware on us and then turn around and say that they are not liable for it ruining our systems, they have even gone as far to deny there is any problem whatsoever with any systems of any model..............this smells like a company trying to cover their asses with lies and half truths.

I think i will be talking to a lawyer soon, this burns me too much to just let it go.

Ted
03-15-2009, 01:38 PM
I can see your point and how you're pissed off but I don't think you have a very strong case. No matter how bs it is, it is in the terms that they aren't liable for firmware issues and a ps3 is functional without updates.

That's just my opinion but I dunno much about laws so my opinion doesn't really matter lol. Good luck and I hope I'll hear some good news.

Reon
03-15-2009, 06:09 PM
I can see your point and how you're pissed off but I don't think you have a very strong case. No matter how bs it is, it is in the terms that they aren't liable for firmware issues and a ps3 is functional without updates.

That's just my opinion but I dunno much about laws so my opinion doesn't really matter lol. Good luck and I hope I'll hear some good news.

^Agree. (I know, this is going from your lastest post back but deal with me for a sec) The tech support people are just that, tech support, they don't really need to be 'nice' to you, which seems to have further incited your anger towards the country. And, as far as Sony lieing to you? That really shouldn't be a shock.

Microsoft didn't really 'own up' to the RROD issue at first, they started when the numbers of 360 that were broken were reaching a massive level and effecting sales. I've heard about the class action suits (quite many going around thes days) but, yeah, I hope that works out for you. If sony issues a warranty(with such small numbers at this point compared to the 360), they will have to worry about people trying to cheat the system (MS has had it's fair share of people doing as such)

I feel your pain, i've been through 3 360's and am now slightly worrying about the longevity of my ps3 but you might need to chill a bit if your going to take this to court.
(I know this post isn't really as clear as it could be, sry)

Ted
03-15-2009, 07:08 PM
If anyone's got news on this, please post here cause I don't want to screw up my ps3 lol. I've been so scared, I'm deliberately not touching my ps3 ever since I read this thread (even though I haven't touched it for a week or so before then).

Cesare Borgia
03-16-2009, 07:12 AM
I think i found the source of trouble, from what i understand, there was a blueray diode shortage and so Sony's solution was to buy crappy poorly made diodes in order to keep up with demand, then they began putting out Firmware, my theory is that they did not anticipate the poorly made ones not being able to handle the increased intensity of the laser due to updates in the firmware. (the laser intensity is just a theory)

2.60 update comes out and then PS3 systems using the old single diode design instead of the duel diode design start dropping dead, some people think "gee, ill just buy a new one and install it myself" and then the new one fails a week or two later...... that speaks to something in itself.

Sony knows the problem but will not come clean, someone fuc*s up from time to time and admits the firmware is bad to a customer while others still deny it, i sense another class action suit headed their way, hopefully this time it don't take them as many years to finally own up.

Ted
03-16-2009, 08:52 AM
Sony knows the problem but will not come clean, someone fuc*s up from time to time and admits the firmware is bad to a customer while others still deny it...

Lol I love that line.

I guess I gotta keep waiting fir some positive reassurance before I touch my ps3.

Ted
03-18-2009, 10:01 AM
I just played some ps3 earlier today, after not having touched it in weeks, and it turns out that I was already using 2.60. This means that not every ps3 manufactured within a certain period of time experiences the same problem you and several people have experienced. I'm sure this would weaken your case severely if you still intend on suing sony.