Progressive rock/music

[Splittet]

I was wondering if any people here are into progressive rock, in the broad sense, of course. Not at all just the 70s movement, but like modern, sophisticated, ambitious and/or experimental rock, like for example Radiohead, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Tool, Sigur Rós, dredg, Pain of Salvation.

What do you think about modern progressive rock compared to the 70s movement? Do you guys have any good progressive music tips? What are your all-time favourite progressive bands and albums? What prog are you into at the moment? What is your history with progressive music? Do you think progressive music would appeal to INTJs? What do you think of the future of progressive rock, and what trends do you see?

I do think progressive music would appeal to a lot of INTJs. Its sophistication I think is something we can relate to. And a lot of music out there feels cheesy. Good modern progressive rock does not. I do however think a band like Dream Theater sounds pretty cheesy, and I am not a fan...

I am not very into the old progressive rock, but I do have some favourites. Pink Floyd is great, and Wish You Were Here is my favourite album by them. Also I absolutely love Close to the Edge by Yes. It was actually one of the first old progressive rock albums I listened to.

At the moment I have an Opeth period. To me Opeth is one of those great bands I keep coming back to. They have a pretty extensive discography by now, and basically all their albums are good, so there is a lot to explore. And you never grow tired of them.

I do feel progressive rock is again growing in popularity. I guess it has to do with counter-culture generally growing. The search for uniqueness is greater than it ever has been.

[Blendy]

Best prog rock album (in my humble opinion): Queensryche's Operation:Mindcrime

[steph with a capital T]

When it comes to discussing music, I think it is safe to say I am like... a tourist so out of place that she is experiencing-- nay, _not even aware_ she is experiencing culture shock. (Beware the peculiar analogy, as I'm sure many of you know, for they can be misleading in certain respects, yet utterly elucidating in the chosen ways, those being as follows.) I know very little of the environment, and any understandings I come to are few and far between, almost random, and I have no clue of any basic assumptions the culture holds.
A couple of years ago I discovered a band called Muse (on the "Featured Artist" section of the Myspace homepage, however, if one can even call that "discovering" a band). They are primarily all I have been listening to since. I have heard every one of their approximate 100 recorded and released songs, hundreds of times each. To make my first point clear, I have no clue if bells in your knowledgeable heads are ringing, if you are inwardly groaning with distaste, or are only vaguely familiar, etc. From what I've scarcely read, they are usually classified as prog rock, nu-prog, epic/progressive and whatever the hell all the silly music journalists want to call the category. I do know their fanbase is a very intense one, and I am one of those intensely devoted fans.
Whew, that was longer than I thought. Yeah so I'm in love with Muse. I've only just barely heard some songs by the Doves, if they count at all. I thought I'd contribute that. However negligible it may or may not be.

[zero]

I'm into progressive rock for quite a few years now but more to its modern art rock side. Bands like Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Explosions in the Sky, Tortoise, Sigur Ros that type of bands. Tool is one of my all time favorites but it's the only progressive rock band I listen to from those that tend to a more "metal" music taste (I don't listen to Opeth for example).

As for Muse, I first heard of them years ago when they made their first album. It was a refreshing sound back then. However, that sound has remained the same from that time and Muse is a static band for me, a fact which I really dislike. So even though they're being tagged as "progressive", in my opinion they're just making what they know the people will like and have jumped on the mainstream bandwagon.

[Splittet]

Bands like Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Explosions in the Sky, Tortoise, Sigur Ros that type of bands.

You are into post-rock then? If you are into those bands you might like Kayo Dot and maudlin of the Well. I guess you have probably heard of.

Personally I am right now listening to the new Ayreon album. Exciting! The Ayreon album The Human Equation is one of the first prog albums I fell in love with, an absolute classic indeed!

Have you checked out Damnation by Opeth? The album is only mellow, and completely without the darker side of Opeth and growling. It's how I started to listen to Opeth, but now I have moved on to the heavier stuff also, of course.

I think Muse are enjoyable, but they certainly aren't the most progressive band out there...

[BadMojo]

Don't know if it's progressive rock, but you have properly heard of Shinedown. If not, then I can recommend them: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Other great rockbands are Blind Guardian and Manowar (Same site)

[Splittet]

Don't know if it's progressive rock, but you have properly heard of Shinedown. If not, then I can recommend them: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Other great rockbands are Blind Guardian and Manowar (Same site)

I downloaded something by Shinedown once upon a time, but because of little space I deleted it. I think it wasn't my thing. Shinedown is not progressive rock. Manowar is not progressive rock either. Blind Guardian is though, but haven't heard. If you ask me, they look a little bit heavy and not like the kind of progressive metal I like. The kind I don't like is for example Dream Theater and Symphony X, but I love Pain of Salvation, Ayreon and Riverside.

[BadMojo]

I downloaded something by Shinedown once upon a time, but because of little space I deleted it. I think it wasn't my thing. Shinedown is not progressive rock. Manowar is not progressive rock either. Blind Guardian is though, but haven't heard. If you ask me, they look a little bit heavy and not like the kind of progressive metal I like. The kind I don't like is for example Dream Theater and Symphony X, but I love Pain of Salvation, Ayreon and Riverside.

I have no idea how de distinguish between the different kinds of rock. For me it's just rock. :)

I've looked up Ayreon on YouTube and I must admit it's kinda cool. Reminds me of Fintroll (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) and perhaps a bit of Tristania (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

Anyways "Shinedown - 45" is just so cool in my book. :)

[Splittet]

I have no idea how de distinguish between the different kinds of rock. For me it's just rock. :)

I've looked up Ayreon on YouTube and I must admit it's kinda cool. Reminds me of Fintroll (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) and perhaps a bit of Tristania (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

Anyways "Shinedown - 45" is just so cool in my book. :)

Well, let's say progressive rock is very different from normal rock. It is very ambitious, often complex, often mixes genres, songs are often long, and albums are often concept albums.

[BadMojo]

I'm not a big fan of definitions, but from what you write; I can understand that a band like Nightwish and Jethro Tull are progressive rock bands?

[Splittet]

I'm not a big fan of definitions, but from what you write; I can understand that a band like Nightwish and Jethro Tull are progressive rock bands?

Jethro Tull is progressive rock, just think about the album Thick as a Brick. A concept album of just one song (in two parts)! Actually it was a parody on concept albums I think. I love it! Nightwish is debateable, but sure, they are quite commonly referred to as progressive metal. I think they suck!

[Rohsiph]

I had thought the music I was getting into starting about three years ago was "progressive rock," but have since learned that it's called "post rock"--in one case, even "post math-rock."

I like music that experiments with theme & variation without repeating itself too much. I really need to listen to some Tool, as most of my better friends say it's the best music there is, but my music habits are a bit strange.

I wonder what prog-rock folk would think of Russian Circles (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) and By the End of Tonight (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)?

[Splittet]

I had thought the music I was getting into starting about three years ago was "progressive rock," but have since learned that it's called "post rock"--in one case, even "post math-rock."

I like music that experiments with theme & variation without repeating itself too much. I really need to listen to some Tool, as most of my better friends say it's the best music there is, but my music habits are a bit strange.

I wonder what prog-rock folk would think of Russian Circles (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) and By the End of Tonight (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)?

Oh, but progressive rock is such a broad genre. I consider both post-rock and math rock subgenres of it, and they are included on Prog Archives: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Personally I enjoyed Russian Circles very much. By the End of Tonight was pretty nice as well. Both bands sounded quite progressive in my ears. Instrumental rock is more often than not progressive, I guess.

[BadMojo]

Don't know if you have heard of Volbeat (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), but I would say that they are all out progressive rock. But some might squeeze into that genre like Garden's tale (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.).

Still, it does sound a lot like punk rock... bit confusing, but they're awesome.

[Splittet]

Don't know if you have heard of Volbeat (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), but I would say that they are all out progressive rock. But some might squeeze into that genre like Garden's tale (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.).

Still, it does sound a lot like punk rock... bit confusing, but they're awesome.

Volbeat is not progressive rock. Their music doesn't seem very complex at all, they probably don't make concept albums, their is no alternative instrumentation, probably not long songs (haha, they didn't even make a song over 5 minutes on their last album) ...

[BadMojo]

I suck at definitions lol

[Splittet]

I suck at definitions lol

Hehe, sure you'll get a fair idea by checking out this top 100 list over progressive rock albums (progressive rock is very album oriented, by the way): To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Or you could just read on Wikipedia: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I think the great Danish band Mew is pretty progressive, although they are not commonly referred to as progressive rock, but some times referred to as New Prog. Their last album was a concept album, with all songs "blending into" each other. I loved it!

One can say progressive rock is rock with the sophistication of classical music and jazz.

[Rohsiph]

Oh, but progressive rock is such a broad genre. I consider both post-rock and math rock subgenres of it, and they are included on Prog Archives: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Personally I enjoyed Russian Circles very much. By the End of Tonight was pretty nice as well. Both bands sounded quite progressive in my ears. Instrumental rock is more often than not progressive, I guess.

Hm . . . I've never heard of Prog Archives before, thanks for the link.

Modern genre definitions are so weird . . . a hundred years from now, academics will have boiled everything in our era down to no more than half a dozen categories. Perhaps the sub-genre classifications will persist, but probably not as widely as right now.

The drummer in Russian Circles is by far the most precise, fluid drummer I've seen in my life--have been able to catch about a dozen of their live sets over the last few years. BTEOT is a more recent discovery on my part, but they did three cross-country tours this year, & I made it to all of their closest stops . . . they have a lot more intensity on stage than Russian Circles, but aren't quite as precise.

Rock on ;)

[David]

I grew up listening to progressive rock before they had a term for it - check out Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Todd Rundgren, Yes, Rush, Starcastle, Steve Hackett, King Crimson. Progressive fans tend to be bright, informed music listeners. Enjoy !

[Sparky]

o yah, I Love Prog and have a long history with prog that dates back to the 70's. Since some of you mentioned Ayreon as a fav then Arjen Lucassen's "Into the Electric Castle" album may ring some bells and so will the Highlander role written and spoken by Fish, former frontman for prog rock band Marillion. I Love Fish-era Marillion..Albums like Misplaced Childhood,Fugazi, Clutching At Straws were/still are favorites. I love Frost*, Headful of Monsters, The Reasoning, The Wishing Tree, Porcupine Tree, Blackfield, Simon Says, Wishbone Ash, Hawkwind, Tangerine Dream, The Box, Yes, Glyder, Starcastle, Within Temptation, Ghost Circus, and so many more..really too many for me to list in one post. I would love to promote Uk prog in North America..I believe the Mastermind and many of the Rational types would appreciate the depth, concept value, lyrical/music composition, and intensity that prog offers. I am honestly quite surprised not many INTJ's on this forum are into progressive music..

[gabbya]

I only recently got into prog, since its so darned difficult to find! That could well be a reason that as Sparky said there aren't all that many here into it. Aside from a few bands, most of it I discovered since browsing this forum. Tool, Dream Theater, Opeth and some of the other metallish bands are surprise favourites.

Don't dis Muse; they might not be the most progressive, but they're enjoyable- so what does it matter in the end? Though some of their songs are starting to sound very alike, I admit.

[Fuddle]

The Dutch band Focus do it for me, always have, superb players etc. But I need to move on, but lack direction (suggestions pls!). Spock's Beard are good, Parallel or 90 degress are sort of OK, I like that superb playing stuff. I really want to hear a modern version of what Focus were in the 1970s.

[Eric86]

Exivious has been my favorite one lately. They're progressive metal with lots of fusion elements (I love most anything that has fusion in it.).

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[enobscuratus]

I love Gentle Giant! (enough to bump the hell out of this thread)

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[Dynomutt]

When I moved to Milwaukee, I was blown away by a local act called Strangeland. Then like so many non-commercial bands, they were gone. A year ago I was running on the treadmill in the company gym and the bassist/vocalist from Strangeland gets on the machine next to me.

Strangeland - Soul Made Still (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)

While Strangeland is no more, he's started another band Fibonacci Sequence (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.). This band is purely instrumental.

Worth a listen.