Times The Academy Has Got It Wrong

[Samoan Corleone]

When they awarded:

Titanic for Best Picture
Jack Nicholson for Best Actor (As Good As It Gets)
Forest Gump for Best Picture (I thought it was a good movie, but The Shawshank Redemption and Pulp Fiction were also in the running)
Tom Hanks for Best Actor (Forest Gump, once again, I liked Forest Gump, but I felt Morgan Freeman's performance in The Shawshank Redemption was more deserving of the Oscar)


When they didn't award:

Al Pacino for Best Actor (Dog Day Afternoon)
Al Pacino for Best Actor (The Godfather II)
Morgan Freeman for Best Actor (The Shawshank Redemption)
Quentin Tarantino for Best Director (Pulp Fiction)
Uma Thurman for Best Supporting Actress (Pulp Fiction)
James Caan for Best Supporting Actor (The Godfather)
Sharon Stone for Best Actress (Casino)


I haven't seen Dances With Wolves yet, so perhaps someone who has seen both that and Goodfellas can tell me which was more deserving of Best Picture, and who of Costner and Scorsese was more deserving of Best Director.

Does anyone have anything else to add?

[TheLastMohican]

We've heard enough about The Dark Knight recently, so I'll name some older examples:

When they didn't give the best supporting actor Oscar to Edward Norton for his debut performance in Primal Fear. (Cuba Gooding Jr. got it instead for Jerry Maguire.)
When they gave the best actress Oscar to Gwyneth Paltrow for Shakespeare in Love and didn't give it to Cate Blanchett for Elizabeth.
When they didn't give the best actor Oscar to Joaquin Phoenix for Walk the Line. (Philip Seymour Hoffman got it instead.)

[Adarasnow]

Cate Blanchett was not a supporting actress in Elizabeth, she was the main actress.





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And Heath Ledger's performance, I believe, was only enhanced because he died. The joker was good, but they are making him into demi-acting-god thing.

[TheLastMohican]

Cate Blanchett was not a supporting actress in Elizabeth, she was the main actress.


I know, I realized that I had written "supporting" just after turning off the computer. It's edited now.

[INTJoe]

Pacino is a terribly-overrated actor.

1994 was just a sick year for movies. The following were all released in 1994:

Forrest Gump
Pulp Fiction
Shawshank Redemption
The Professional
The Lion King
Three Colors: Red

[TheLastMohican]

Forrest Gump
Pulp Fiction
Shawshank Redemption
The Professional
The Lion King
Three Colors: Red

Awesome, awesome, awesome, never heard of it, pretty good, and never heard of it. Are you trying to say that 1994 was a good year or a bad year?

[INTJoe]

Also, Carl Weathers (Apollo Creed) totally got snubbed for Best Supporting Actor nomination in either Rocky or Rocky II.

Burt Young (Uncle Paulie) actually got nominated for the former. lol. But the Apollo Creed character was one of the best-performed supporting characters I can think of.

[INTJoe]

Awesome, awesome, awesome, never heard of it, pretty good, and never heard of it. Are you trying to say that 1994 was a good year or a bad year?

Very good year, obviously.

The best year was probably 1939. 1946 was also good, as was 1957.

[TheLastMohican]

Very good year, obviously.
Sorry, I didn't know how to take "sick." :wacky:

[INTJoe]

Sorry. lol. I post on another forum where "sick" = "really good". I sometimes forget how to cater my language to each forum. hahaha.

[Profit]

When they awarded:


I haven't seen Dances With Wolves yet, so perhaps someone who has seen both that and Goodfellas can tell me which was more deserving of Best Picture, and who of Costner and Scorsese was more deserving of Best Director.


Dances With Wolves is a very good film. It is a beautiful picture to watch for one and the story while somewhat clichéd is still engrossing. The big thing about this film though is that you have to put it in historical perspective. Hollywood, throughout its history, did not exactly treat Native American’s with much dignity or respect. They were basically depicted as brutal savages who wanted nothing more than to kill innocent white settlers and rape/enslave white women. Dances With Wolves flips the stereotype around and depicts Native Americans, both on an individual and collective level, with dignity while showing how their entire social system was being destroyed by Western settlement and the systematic destruction of the great buffalo herds. Together with Unforgiven, Dances With Wolves really reenergized the western as a film genre.

While Goodfellas is a great film I think Dances With Wolves and Costner deserved the win. Just my opinion, check out the film though.

[zibber]

Proposal for new title:

Times you didn't agree with..

[TheLastMohican]

Proposal for new title:

Times you didn't agree with..

Is there a difference? :huh:

[thederelict]

I think the Academy got it wrong with "Slumdog." It wasn't bad, but I don't understand the lavish praise it has received.

[INTJoe]

A poster on another forum suggested that Hollywood's third-world guilt got ahold of them. lol.

Remember these awards for what they are...... they aren't perfect, and if you think there is not a hidden agenda behind some of the selections, you're wrong.

[Samoan Corleone]

Pacino is a terribly-overrated actor.

Huh? You mean in general, or just everything post-Scent of a Woman where he's playing an angry dwarf?





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Proposal for new title:

Times you didn't agree with..

I can't change it now, but the initial title makes it sound more credible.

[INTJoe]

lol yeah I'm not feelin' the whole angry dwarf thing. Pacino sucks, that's just my opinion.

He routinely gets lumped in with Nicholson and DeNiro, which is just mind-bogglingly absurd.

[Brittle]

One that's always annoyed me was Denzel Washington winning Best Actor for Training Day, when he was up against Will Smith for Ali and Russel Crowe for A Beautiful Mind. The latter were both superior films with superior acting.

[Samoan Corleone]

lol yeah I'm not feelin' the whole angry dwarf thing. Pacino sucks, that's just my opinion.

He routinely gets lumped in with Nicholson and DeNiro, which is just mind-bogglingly absurd.

One that's always annoyed me was Denzel Washington winning Best Actor for Training Day, when he was up against Will Smith for Ali and Russel Crowe for A Beautiful Mind. The latter were both superior films with superior acting.

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Dances With Wolves is a very good film. It is a beautiful picture to watch for one and the story while somewhat clichéd is still engrossing. The big thing about this film though is that you have to put it in historical perspective. Hollywood, throughout its history, did not exactly treat Native American’s with much dignity or respect. They were basically depicted as brutal savages who wanted nothing more than to kill innocent white settlers and rape/enslave white women. Dances With Wolves flips the stereotype around and depicts Native Americans, both on an individual and collective level, with dignity while showing how their entire social system was being destroyed by Western settlement and the systematic destruction of the great buffalo herds. Together with Unforgiven, Dances With Wolves really reenergized the western as a film genre.

While Goodfellas is a great film I think Dances With Wolves and Costner deserved the win. Just my opinion, check out the film though.

Got it, that's on my to-see list.

[harrycallahan71]

Ordinary People winning Best Picture over Raging Bull
The Greatest Show on Earth winning Best Picture over High Noon

[INTJoe]

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lol that's pretty awesome.

I did a bunch of research the other night and compared the highest-rated films on IMDB (starting from 1994 going back to 1927, the first year the Best Picture was awarded), and found that only about 10% of the films were aligned. (I basically treated the highest-rated film on IMDB as the "best picture" for that year. Yeah I know IMDB ratings are certainly not the end-all but I found it interesting nonetheless.

I spent like over an hour on this, then the sheet of paper I'd written it on fell between two heavy pieces of furniture....so it's gone haha. :(

I think Chariots of Fire is considered one of the worst best pictures.

[TheLastMohican]

One that's always annoyed me was Denzel Washington winning Best Actor for Training Day, when he was up against Will Smith for Ali and Russel Crowe for A Beautiful Mind. The latter were both superior films with superior acting.

I think it was a tough call between Washington and Crowe. Smith was good, but not great (and the movie as a whole was too choppy). Crowe's bid was probably doomed by the fact that he had won the Oscar the year before.

The Greatest Show on Earth winning Best Picture over High Noon
I must agree with that one.