Maayan
02-20-2009, 03:46 PM
... and promotional images of Japanese celebrities. I ran out of space.
Forced choice questionnaire.
Which of these images do you find more offensive? Why?
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How about these two?
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The former comparison is a favorite debate among fashion industry professionals; the later comparison was brought up on a BBS that I frequented before finding this place. (The ESFP likes Japanese celebrities. Who’d have thunk it? Hilarious. Moving on.) I wrote that the money shot was somewhat less offensive than the image of the girl in the fishnet stockings (and, by extension, most promotional images of Japanese celebrities) because the intention to arouse is more honest and straightforward. One member wrote this reply:
I really can't agree with these feelings at all, and I'll try to work out why.
I guess for one, the honesty of the intention usually makes it feel much more trashy, awkward and uncomfortable to look at for me. The staging or farce surrounding something like Koharu's (fishnet stockings girl) shoot at least gives you some re-assurance that this wouldn't have happened were it not for the whole "I work for an idol company and they told me to do this," which is what I'd rather see coming from a cute young girl than "Take me now! I'm here waiting for you!"
Sometimes, though, I wonder exactly how much real sexuality is intended by something like Koharu's shoot. I don't know how they can honestly think that dressing a girl up in that kind of outfit and having those kinds of shots could come anywhere close to what I feel "erotic" or "sexual" means. It’s almost like one of those things when girls go to one of those "Glamour Shots" places in America and get all dressed up and made up to be like some celebrity or something just to take a few pictures, but they're not really going for the sexual aspect of it, just the glitz/glamour part. That's how I feel about something like Koharu's shoot, even if the clothes can easily lead the mind towards the other direction and all, it seems like innocent enough picture to me by most accounts, or, at least, it could be a lot worse and often is within the idol industry.
Maybe I'm reading way too much into this, but in a way, maybe the companies behind both of these books have very different audiences in mind. I think one of the big things in marketing in the idol industry is that you're marketing the fantasy to most of the male fans. In the opposite direction, with Kago (money shot girl), I think her book is marketed more towards the kind of people who would prefer a more real or obtainable girl or situation to look at.
What are your thoughts?
Forced choice questionnaire.
Which of these images do you find more offensive? Why?
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
How about these two?
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
The former comparison is a favorite debate among fashion industry professionals; the later comparison was brought up on a BBS that I frequented before finding this place. (The ESFP likes Japanese celebrities. Who’d have thunk it? Hilarious. Moving on.) I wrote that the money shot was somewhat less offensive than the image of the girl in the fishnet stockings (and, by extension, most promotional images of Japanese celebrities) because the intention to arouse is more honest and straightforward. One member wrote this reply:
I really can't agree with these feelings at all, and I'll try to work out why.
I guess for one, the honesty of the intention usually makes it feel much more trashy, awkward and uncomfortable to look at for me. The staging or farce surrounding something like Koharu's (fishnet stockings girl) shoot at least gives you some re-assurance that this wouldn't have happened were it not for the whole "I work for an idol company and they told me to do this," which is what I'd rather see coming from a cute young girl than "Take me now! I'm here waiting for you!"
Sometimes, though, I wonder exactly how much real sexuality is intended by something like Koharu's shoot. I don't know how they can honestly think that dressing a girl up in that kind of outfit and having those kinds of shots could come anywhere close to what I feel "erotic" or "sexual" means. It’s almost like one of those things when girls go to one of those "Glamour Shots" places in America and get all dressed up and made up to be like some celebrity or something just to take a few pictures, but they're not really going for the sexual aspect of it, just the glitz/glamour part. That's how I feel about something like Koharu's shoot, even if the clothes can easily lead the mind towards the other direction and all, it seems like innocent enough picture to me by most accounts, or, at least, it could be a lot worse and often is within the idol industry.
Maybe I'm reading way too much into this, but in a way, maybe the companies behind both of these books have very different audiences in mind. I think one of the big things in marketing in the idol industry is that you're marketing the fantasy to most of the male fans. In the opposite direction, with Kago (money shot girl), I think her book is marketed more towards the kind of people who would prefer a more real or obtainable girl or situation to look at.
What are your thoughts?