Can you describe the INTJ teenage female?

[cah1812]

I just read through the "Can you describe the INTJ teenage male?" thread and I was surprised by how most of them described themselves. Now I not so sure I am a INTJ. What differences can you see between the INTJ teenage male and female?

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

To other females do these things describe you as a teen also or might I be a different "type"?

[rara avis]

I was more of an INTP as a teenager, probably with occasional F flurries in my early teens.

I spent a lot of time reading, drawing, painting, sulking - solitary activities - but I felt more compelled then to try to keep up socially than I have since. Being immersed in the kind of interpersonal contact that's fostered in school left me really puzzled by myself and the way I saw things, but I had friends, I did stuff with them occasionally... I remember the summer after Junior year was actually pretty fun, that way.

I was not often in trouble, since I tend to go around instead of through roadblocks... and wasn't all that interested in hellraising, anyway. I was constantly late for classes, and missed assignments all the time. I did used to race cars on a very windy hill. Oh, and I started tinkering with smoking- tobacco and pot, just a little. But I was a Good Kid - the times when I was overtly disrespectful to an adult were few. (Though they do make for funny stories, now.)

I was anxious, and thoughtful, and a little strange. Same as now, but the strangeness was more noticeable then.

Used to sometimes just walk home when I was supposed to be in class. I had kind of a different arrangement, though, so it wasn't as big a deal; I got my GED when I was 16 but stayed to take whatever classes I felt interested in. I was absolutely unconcerned about my GPA - I think my last one on record was about 1.75.

I had a LOT more drama in me then. But it was justified, it was freaking hard trying to understand what I ought to do, when what everyone else around me seemed to want made no sense to me. Really having to make things up for yourself is tough.

[totallybarmy]

i was rude, bunked of school, frustrated, under achieved, day dreamy and very very hard to engage with. i had very little connections, if not none at all. these are the things, i believe people seen of me, if they at all noticed me.

i however liked to sing in my room. i like to play my keyboard and make songs up. i loved to read myself to sleep. i loved dancing and i loved to draw. i would do all these things without another soul on the planet knowing or taking any interest in the fact i done these things. i loved dreaming and at one stage believed it to be better than being awake. i constantly felt constricted by circumstances. i felt trapped by other peoples expectations. i never felt in charge of my life. this being a skill i had to teach myself.

[une fille]

I tested as an INTP during my earlier teens, like rara avis. I think being around so many people I didn't relate to beat my J into submission for quite some time, until I became more comfortable with myself. Being a female with the INTJ personality preference isn't all that easy, especially when being forced into the awful world of high school.

During school, I was extremely quiet and I did very well in my classes. I was rarely late and only rude to authority figures when they disrespected me in ways I found inexcusable. I've always been extremely sarcastic, so we differ in that respect, but I tried to hold my tongue for the most part. I was involved in a few activities, but never felt too attached to the organizations or fellow members.


In regards to comparing yourself to INTJ males, note that most males are pushed to become xxTJ's by society, whereas females are pushed in the exact opposite direction (at least in the U.S., from what I've seen.) Males in the high school age group are also naturally more aggressive, and that J helps the testosterone out a bit.

You may mature into a different "type," or you may just have weaker preferences, perhaps. As I said earlier, I tested as a different type before, and I still have a weaker TJ.

[Zilal]

As a teen I was weird, dorky, very internal... found it impossible to express myself to others, and usually didn't want to... I was never particularly rude or rebellious, unless you consider near-total withdrawal from the world to be those things.

[aranae]

I don't think that I was an INTJ as a teenager. I was an INxx. When I was 19 I was an INFJ, then at 22 I was INFP, then at 27 INTP, then at 29 INTJ. I was scared of being J because my mom is an SJ and I was denial for quite a while till I took the test the last time and came out half and half J/P.

I behaved as an "I" most definitely- I had few friends and never EVER hung out with friends after school or on weekends. I was happy to chill at home on Friday nights at home and watch TV. I often admired the extroverts in my classes but was waaay to shy to speak in class or purposely draw attention to myself. I enjoyed my alone time reading or drawing very much.

I guess I behaved as an "N"... I'm not really sure. I know that I have a bad sense of direction and get lost alot from learning how to drive...and I could never get those measurements JUST right in chemistry class but i was always the first to finish a test because N's don't have to re-read questions and I enjoyed poetry and metaphors in English class. I didn't think about it much back then.

I think I wanted to be a T, I just didn't know how. I didn't know any "T" girls or women- just F's. Girls who weren't nice or who argued or talked back were seen as tough and a *B* word. I also felt ALOT of pressure to be an F by society- i didn't discover I was a "T" until I was about 25 or 26. I listened to a radio show hosted by a "Dr. Laura" and felt drawn to her no-nonsense style of communication and reasoning. The more I listened, the more i felt that this is how I was- at my best- if I had the guts to let myself be "me".

I am half J/P. I remember in 9th grade we got a empty schedule and we were supposed to fill in what we did every day for week as an exercise. I liked filling out the schedule for my school day- I wished it had been more organized in that we would have had strict times for socializing or none at all would have been nice. But when it came to my time after school and on the weekends, I just put "free time". My free time is very important to me becuase that's my private time and it's my own business what I do or don't do in that time. what i do depends on what mood I'm in, and I never know, so I don't like to make plans or have other people make demands on me during that time.

[probity]

I've tested INTJ since Junior High so it's safe to say I was an INTJ teenage girl. It was not easy. I was very quiet. I spent most of my time reading, writing and muttering to myself about how stupid and irrational all the people in my life were. I wasn't at all confrontational and preferred to be in the background and ignored. It made things easier because I carried a general disdain for people and everyone seemed incapable of taking care of themselves. I also hated other people seeing I was having problems because I was constantly trying to 'fix' them.

I never go into trouble. Even if I did something that should have gotten me into trouble I got away with whatever it was simply because I wasn't usually a trouble maker. I simultaneously cared too much and didn't care at all whether I was doing what I was supposed to. One day I would have a panic attack because a friend took my history book and I wouldn't be able to take it to class and the next I'd walk into history, look my teacher in the eye, tell him not to mark me absent but I wasn't coming to class, walk out, and spend the period on the baseball field talking to a friend. I definitely had issues with needing to feel in control and I was a very anxious person.

There were two main sides to my personality and most people knew one side, my friends knew both. Despite whatever inner turmoil I was experiencing, and their was a lot, I never let my guard down around people and spent my entire high school life as 'the cute one'. I was the 'teddy bear' who could be picked up, carried around, or cuddled at anytime by anyone in my circle of friends. On the other hand I was also known as the 'battle dwarf' because I had violent tendencies and acted out on them for the fun of it.

I'm not too aware of what people thought of me in high school. I didn't really care or pay attention to other people but from what I've been told I was seen as the small, smart, and quiet one that was really cute but kind of scary and intimidating. ;)

[blatant]

i behaved the same as the OP, basically. Quiet, studious, kind of mean...

I still am that way, except for less studious because academia has broken my trust.

[AliTree]

blunt, jaded, bitter, sarcastic, dry, dark, weird.
that's how i would describe myself, at least.

[lambpox]

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

Same. I'm known as blunt but incredibly sweet in school; I have INFJ tendencies when I'm around acquaintances. Most of the time people see me as that little quiet girl who loves making friends with the teacher, and whenever she does decide to talk something witty or sarcastic comes out of her mouth. I care about my grades and school a lot. I've been called prude countless of times due to my attitude toward the opposite sex and dating; questioned about my fashion statements (who cares if I wear my dad's sweater vests, it's all about being comfortable and warm!). Don't really care for my health, known for not sleeping for hours on end and not eating because "I forget and have more important things to do". Very geeky and tend to be the one that people go to for advice...still a teenager, so I might change.

[Mathnerdkid]

I don't think there are very many obvious differences between the teenage INTJ and the male. No one matches every description, as everyone is unique.

[Muumeh]

hmm let's see...
I was witty and sarcastic, I had only few friends, liked to read alot and mostly kept to myself. According to my friends I was also very scary, mainly because I rarely showed any emotions. Actually they joked that I had only three facial expressions: angry, really angry and "If you come any closer I will kill you." (in INTJ language I guess it'd go: normal, slightly annoyed, angry)

When we were hanging out at weekends, I was always the person whose responsibility was to make a plan/figure out how all get back home from place X, and also safeguarding the taxi/bus money and friends house keys.

[naughtysnail]

I can't speak for the teenage female in general, but I know what I was like as a teenager:

Not very teenaged! My Mum says I never rebelled or caused any trouble or worry. I loved school, but hated that I had to attend school with other people. I was bullied and teased quite a lot, probably because I was a bit of a know-it-all. I was very practical and responsible, a good all-rounder but especially good at English, languages and chemistry. I liked creative subjects. I had one close friend, who had an awful lot of friends that let me tag along with them. I had my first boyfriend when I was sixteen, and we had a very sexual relationship. My mother claims that I was so pleased when a boy took any notice of me that I'd drop everything to follow him blindly. From my own perspective, I chose my men very carefully based on who was a good friend, and was loyal to them until they figured out I liked them. I met my husband when I was sixteen. I preferred the company of people older than me, though this can easily be explained by the fact I am the youngest and was close to my significantly-older siblings. I never liked conflict (still don't) or violence, very VERY rarely challenged authority, and when I did it would be to stick up for people or causes other than myself.

Hope this helps :) I believe I've always been INTJ -- very little has happened to change me since I was a teenager, except being influenced by my husband's more contravercial political views. But then, I was brought up by rather contravercial parents so, again, nothing new.

[brainysmurf]

I loved school, but hated that I had to attend school with other people.

Same here! I was also very competitive with regards to academics and it was a huge motivation to get better grades than the bullies.

I guess most INTJ girls are not much different from INTJ guys, but others find it more acceptable for guys to be INTJ than for girls.

[Frag]

It is my observation that, especially younger, INTJ females tend to either appear in the classical INTJ image, or wear an overelaborate mask, which on the surface seems about as ESFP as possible.

[Storm]

I was very studious. I loved school and learning and was in all advanced classes and got top grades -partly because I liked to learn, partly because the public system makes it easy to get good grades, and partly because I'm competitive. I wanted to go to college, and grades mattered for that.

I didn't consider myself "rebellious" in that I never openly insulted teachers or didn't do things just because I didn't want to. I saw the value of the school system and saw no reason to raise hell just to cause some poor government wage earner trouble. I had plenty of teachers I didn't like or thought did a poor job teaching, but geez, you're only in each class for an hour a day, who cares? I did have a few "disagreements" with some teachers, but I always spoke tactfully - actually today I might have been a bit more aggressive. But really, most of my teachers I liked, so there was no reason to rebel.

I loved to read - a lot. I had a small group of friends I hung out with, but didn't attend huge parties or run for prom queen. I was on the debate team and really loved it. I don't think I was much different than I am now, except maybe not as sure as myself nor as developed mentally. I guess I was a nerd, but I wasn't made fun of by the "popular" kids or anything like that. Actually, the popular kids were pretty nice to me. I didn't dress outlandishly weird (I didn't need the attention). I did like to dress a little unconventionally and didn't care for trends, but not anything off the wall . I didn't have time for high school "clicks" (goths, skaters, punks, preps, etc.). I went to school, conversed with a few friends, went to class and went home. On the weekends, I had a group of friends that got together on Fridays to play board games and watch movies. Sometimes we played ping pong or swam. Gee, I sound sort of boring. Oh well, I had fun.

[Deliberator]

I was a lot like an INFJ when I was a teenager, or maybe a P. Not sure.

In any case I was VERY religious (but I did logically analyze all facets of theology to find the "best" belief), captured by beauty so I occasionally tried to paint and write poetry, obsessed with writing and taping home videos, not overly studious as I tended to procrastinate (I was homeschooled though), researched some VERY dorky and obscure topics on the internet, and thought about sex a LOT.

My only social interaction was from church... I was liked for the most part, but never fit in to the main clique of teenagers. I hung out with another "misfit" introverted girl. It seems I always hung out with the misfits.

[mayumi]

I hung out with bookish people, because we traded books. Quiet, sometimes good at school, but mostly not. But I graduated and had grades good enough to get into a good college. Never actually studied.

Mostly bored in HS.



I think I was also teased but I didn't notice much.

[Frag]

I was a lot like an INFJ when I was a teenager, or maybe a P. Not sure.

In any case I was VERY religious (but I did logically analyze all facets of theology to find the "best" belief), captured by beauty so I occasionally tried to paint and write poetry, obsessed with writing and taping home videos
This is interesting in light of some other recent threads... was it more symbolic beauty or ...er.. peopley/flowery ...?

(there is probably a better descriptor for that, I just don't know one)

[Monte314]

My oldest daughter is an INTJ. She is 25 now, but I recall that she was stubborn, tended to be terse in her communication, and was great fun when she wanted to be.

[Deliberator]

This is interesting in light of some other recent threads... was it more symbolic beauty or ...er.. peopley/flowery ...?

(there is probably a better descriptor for that, I just don't know one)

Symbolic beauty, usually through religion, and the beauty in nature mostly. I mean, nature still is quite beautiful to me, it just doesn't inspire me to want to write poetry about it (I realize after all this time that I don't really like poetry much).

[greenowl99]

I tested as an INTJ as a teenager and I remember being perceived as brilliant, arrogant and haughty. I placed most of my pride in my intelligence and did my best to display it to the point of being called a "know-it-all".

I had very little use for people who played the high school games of "let's ridicule whoever's different" and "my parents have money so I'm better than you" and I wasn't shy at all about letting them know how pathetic they were when they attempted it on me. My tongue was sharp and merciless and I left more than one classmate in tears when he or she was trying to build up his or her self-esteem at the price of another.

I detested large gatherings of people - they sapped my energy and the mob mentality made me very nervous. I liked going to dances, though, because I loved music and it was a quality outlet for any excess energy I had. I also indulged in photography and yearbook editing - I liked the experienced of cropping the pictures just so and composing the perfect blend of images.

I was known as an "ice queen", but I was warm with people who I knew loved and accepted me and didn't need to play games to cover their insecurities. I chose to associate with people based on their integrity - I felt they could be trusted to do the right thing in a crunch. I had no use for flattery, game-playing or sentimental mushiness if the person who was expressing it had no substance.

I was very lonely. I thought there was something wrong with me - why didn't I want to conform or go along with the way things were? Mainly because I felt like something in my soul would be violated in the process of attempting to "whore" myself for acceptance.

I was also deeply romantic and secretly hopeful that someone would perceive the soft-hearted girl underneaths my prickly exterior, though I was terrified that the wrong person would see this and attempt to manipulate me or ridicule me for it.

The worst thing about being an INTJ as a teenager was that I was a roiling, seething cauldron of emotion. Logic was the only solace and comfort I could find. My heart might have been ready to leap out of my chest if that certain someone passed my way, but my head told me that the someone in question would most likely make fun of me so I pushed my emotions aside and did what I thought was the intelligent thing: I kept quiet and poured it all out into my writing. Working with words to perfect the experience of the myriad of crushes I experienced throughout my teenage years did wonders for my skills, even if it didn't lead to emotional fulfillment.

The best thing about being an INTJ as a teenager was that I had enough self-esteem to never sacrifice my personal integrity to any form of peer pressure.

[Riveria]

Technically, I am still a teenager. I did go through the entire “teenage angst” stage a couple of years ago. It was horrible– the emotions I felt were toxic and served only to drain me. My academics dipped considerably, and my friends figured that something was wrong with me, although they could not pinpoint the problem, as (other than the more apparent fatigue aside) I seemed fine. I put in a brave front and did my best to remain in control, although I was an emotional wreck. That being said, that stage passed after several months, and I emerged much stronger after that.

I never saw the need to rebel. It is partly because my parents imposed no discipline on me at all. They figured that a good way for me to learn was to make my own mistakes, a method which somewhat backfired, taking that I never saw the need to make those mistakes anyway. I also viewed peer pressure as being idiotic –doing certain actions simply to gain acceptance makes absolutely no sense to me.

I am studious. I like attending my lectures and tutorials, I love completing my homework ahead of time, reading beyond the boundaries of what I am expected to know, and so on. I am not competitive, but I always want to get excellent grades because I know it is within my capacity to do brilliantly, and I am extremely disappointed if I do not meet my high standards for academics.

My peers tend to see me as an extremely mature and confident person, and they often come to me for advice. I have been told that I am quite intimidating, although this will usually cease once people get to know me better.

I am very thankful for the fact that I am in a relatively small class (around 20 people), in which all of my classmates are genuinely nice and accept me for who I am. It is one of the main reasons as to why I love my current school and am enjoying myself very much at this point of time.

This is off topic, but I noticed that a few INTJs were previously tested as INTPs. I am quite sure that I was an INTP before I became a teenager, perhaps the INTP to INTJ progression is a trend of some sort?

[invicta]

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

Yes on first paragraph, meaning I was rude, sarcastic, late for class, etc. Yes on second paragraph, excepting such horribly social endeavors such as marching band or student council.

I was flat out antisocial back then. Not just withdrawn or asocial, but antisocial.

[Deliberator]

I tested as an INTJ as a teenager and I remember being perceived as brilliant, arrogant and haughty. I placed most of my pride in my intelligence and did my best to display it to the point of being called a "know-it-all".

I was very lonely. I thought there was something wrong with me - why didn't I want to conform or go along with the way things were? Mainly because I felt like something in my soul would be violated in the process of attempting to "whore" myself for acceptance.

I was also deeply romantic and secretly hopeful that someone would perceive the soft-hearted girl underneaths my prickly exterior, though I was terrified that the wrong person would see this and attempt to manipulate me or ridicule me for it.

The worst thing about being an INTJ as a teenager was that I was a roiling, seething cauldron of emotion. Logic was the only solace and comfort I could find. My heart might have been ready to leap out of my chest if that certain someone passed my way, but my head told me that the someone in question would most likely make fun of me so I pushed my emotions aside and did what I thought was the intelligent thing: I kept quiet and poured it all out into my writing. Working with words to perfect the experience of the myriad of crushes I experienced throughout my teenage years did wonders for my skills, even if it didn't lead to emotional fulfillment.

I was much like this, only unlike you I did eventually sacrifice part of myself for the sake of human contact. I had only one friend most of the time, and she only had me as a friend. To get along with her I had to suppress the fact that I was obviously more intelligent than she. She still thought of me as a haughty know-it-all even though I shot myself down all the time to prove to her that I wasn't.

And I was also terribly lonely and horny and romantic. God, I'm so glad those days are over!

[wittykitty]

Interesting, I agree I was sarcastic, confined to a few close friends, and generally made fun of everyone and anyone, under my own breath mind you. I didn't like large gatherings but enjoyed the dances, interestingly enough my closest ISFJ friend was the hater.

I was also deeply romantic and secretly hopeful that someone would perceive the soft-hearted girl underneaths my prickly exterior So true! I can recall having a tremendous amount of confidence in my abilities and intelligence but I often had serious self-image issues which led to a roiling, seething cauldron of emotion which only my logic could quell, but even then I had moments where I am quite thankful for my closest ISFJ friend when my F would just boil over in a note trying to figure out how it was I was so multifaceted and no one (opposite gender speaking) recognized how cool I was.

Some other things:
I was the smartest kid in my classes where the subject and the teacher pushed me to be the best, that or creatively with my arts and photography classes.
I skipped school a lot.
Was friends with probably the dirtiest mouthed girls in high school and loved it
Was in no way touchy feely. Didn't like hugs, etc. Although I eventually developed this side of me a little better.
A lot of my friends labelled me a snob when they first met me, I eventually won them over due to my superiority. ;)

[Antares]

I can't describe the INTJ teenage female, but I can describe myself.

I'm openly defiant of authority; I hate it when my parents try to control me and I let them know that. I am frank to the point of tactless; I once told my ISFJ mother that her breath stinks, and man did that cause a commotion. I'm derisive of superstition and have the 'screw 'em all' attitude. In Chinese customs, it is generally bad luck to step on thresholds; I do this every chance I get (I did trip once, right after stepping on it). I celebrate Friday the 13th, walk in unlucky places and curse ghosts.

I'm not a star academically; my grades could be a lot better. Somehow everyone thinks I am, despite the fact that I did not make honor roll at all this year. I remember one instance where I got a C for my paper. I casually asked the guy beside me what he got, and he said he wouldn't tell me because "I bet you got an 100". My brilliance isn't consistent, but when it shows, it tends to dazzle everyone in the vicinity (I guess that's why everybody thinks I'm smarter than I actually am; I make it memorable). Despite my quite average grades, a lot of teachers tend to like me and hold me in high regard.

My speech is described to be similar to Artemis Fowl on many occasions, and people sometimes associate me with 'intelligence'. Flattering, but not true. I'm a fluent critique; some may find my critique in its purest form very offensive (granted, no one's ever seen them). I'm usually sarcastic, insulting (in all the right places) and scathing.

I'm a sucker in the romance department. I won't recognize flirting if it danced naked in front of me, and I missed my chance with the only guy I was ever serious about. I keep to myself mostly, and I still wonder how am I so relatively unattractive compared to my peers, but right now such issues aren't my major areas of concern; my school work and resume is. I don't do well with male attention; one of the few times it's actually happened to me, I ended up hating the guy.

[Hasway]

Hah... this one is easy for me.(because I am an INTJ teen)
I rarely pay attention during classes because I usually end up with the teachers that expect all people to move at the same pace(ugh). I don't do my homework if I already know all that I need to know on the subject, or do it at the last minute(and I still have a 3.95 GPA). My friends tell me that I am quiet, and my mom tells me to invite people over. People who don't know me see me as shy, arrogant, rude(that makes me snort), annoying(the idiots), and too intelligent for my own good(the really annoying people). People gave up debating with me a long time ago, and everybody stays on my good side. People know not to talk to me about things that I don't care about. Most of my friends shut up if they see my eyes look over as if I'm daydreaming(which I usually am). My teachers always put on my report card that I don't participate in class(which is half thought out,really. I pay attention some of the time. I just don't bother to brainstorm with the class because I already know the answer/problem/solution/how-to before we even start the class. It's painfully annoying). That's my usual problem with extraverted teachers. Some people think that I'm plain dumb because I don't do all the politically correct things. I don't follow rules if I think that I don't need them. That can really get on my friends nerves. People by now should know better that when they ask me a question, I will give them a honest answer. If you ask me to look over your paper, I will look it over, probably have a red mark on every sentance, and hand it back to them. All I have to say about that is this:do they seriously think I would just glance at it and say that it was good? Then they get all pissed off about the amount of critisism I gave them. I do have a private life; I just don't run about screaming about it. I don't talk to some people if I feel that they are dumb, won't listen to me, or just will give me the cold shoulder because I'm very "nerdy." Yes I'm smart. And because of that, I won't talk to them. That's about it :).

[Prunesquallor]

I never saw the need to rebel. It is partly because my parents imposed no discipline on me at all. They figured that a good way for me to learn was to make my own mistakes, a method which somewhat backfired, taking that I never saw the need to make those mistakes anyway. I also viewed peer pressure as being idiotic –doing certain actions simply to gain acceptance makes absolutely no sense to me.

That describes me as well, as a teenager.

I was also very studious but somewhat inconsistent as I was easily bored, annoyingly emotional, but I kept that mostly under wraps, and very, very oblivious. I didn't understand or recognise flirting, didn't date, din't know the names of more than about six people in my school, had no clue what was going on around me because it was all so bloody boring, and spent most of my time reading literature and crappy science fiction and spacing out and imagining.

I thought I was better than everyone else, but was consistently surprised at how moronic most of the world was because I never thought they could be that dumb. For instance, it took about a month for me to accept that 'freedom fries' wasn't actually a joke. I mean, really.

I was teased a lot but never really cared or thought that these people were relevant, figured out how to orient myself to read when I'd been shoved in a locker by some moron who's now leaning on it, went three hours once with a 'kick me' sign on my back because I never paid attention, and then I decorated it and put it back on because I thought I was funny.

I played a lot of madlibs with a friend - we wrote them from the petry we'd memorised and we were much more specific about parts of speech and used advanced grammatical terminology.

I was very sarcastic and it took a while to learn that not everyone found insults hilarious.

[DDL]

I was always a very good, obedient teenager. Basically, school was (and still is) my life. I rarely formed attachments to people, but when I did, they were strong.
I've never liked keeping the company of other people (except for choice few). I took a very sarcastic view of life and occasionally would let that sarcasm out on random people.
I don't have any inclination towards considering myself superior to other people but I am easily frustrated with people who choose not to develop their minds... the "willingly idiotic", if you will.

I was the kind of teenage girl that teachers liked and fellow students ignored. However, I was quite happy with this arrangement, and I enjoyed my solitude from the people I considered to be nonsensical and constantly irrelevant.

[phantasma]

I'm a generally mellow, easy going, bored person. I can't hold on to friends for more than a couple years, the teachers loved me, and I've always had good grades. In school, students are always looking to me to always say the right answers, know what's going on in class, and help them with their classwork. I have a way of being on everyone's good side. As for my outlook, I usually have a slightly cynical, slightly absurd, and slightly psychological outlook on life.

I am the girl that everyone likes, but nobody knows/understands.

[graciela224]

The teenaged INTJ me:
-I skipped school every other day and I would usually just go to the park and read a book instead. I never got in trouble; partially because I wasn't a hell-raiser and was never suspected of miscreant behavior, and partially because I was a good liar.
-Teachers were generally fond of me, but I wasn't a people-pleaser or afraid of authority and definitely knew how to thwart it.
-Despite describing myself as a very open person, I appeared very enigmatic to others.
-Concerned with politics and religion.
-People thought of me as a lot smarter and studious than I ever was. I usually got A's in my Humanities classes, but if I didn't feel like working for something I would get B's and the occasional C. I even failed an Algebra course; the next year I retook it with a different teacher and had the highest grade in the class. So I don't know if the failure was really poor effort on my part, general stupidity, or that the teacher didn't communicate with me.
-Regarded by others as an extremely hard worker. I would say that this was very true if I was interested in the subject. The rest of the time I faked it.
-Excellent at analyzing literature and poetry.
-An occasional friend, an occasional boyfriend.
-Overall I would say that I was pretty manipulative. I knew what I wanted and had no shame in doing whatever it took to get it.

[Godzilla]

I'm a teenage INTJ female... uh I go to parties, I care very little about school, I hate sports and small talk, actually I'm pretty similar to what you described as a typical INTJ male. I think a lot of people see me as arrogant though, which is sad because I'm like not at all, I just know what I know, but also am not afraid to admit I'm wrong or don't understand something. I don't really fit into a high school sterotype. Most of my friends are E's or eI's and I have a small group of close friends and a bigger group of acquaintances. I love books, art and math and can be very outspoken if I have something to say. Oh, and I hate every person I know in some way and am bipolar which sucks. God I hate high school, I'm so sick of it.

[Ermisenda]

Im an INTJ teenage female. I love school. I love the arts - photography, drama and visual arts. I do really well in all my classes, usually coming out in the top 3 if not first for quite a couple of the subjects I do. I love learning. I am usually kind and respect people's opinions and so on. Teachers think very highly of my maturity, ability to understand things quickly and independence. I play an extroverted role a lot of the time. I am most intrigued by people's thoughts and views. I have great self-control and patience. Many think I'm weird and mysterious as I rarely open up about myself and have innovative ideas. I don't fit in with the cliques. My two female friends are zany, there not INTJ's and I just hang with them for convenience over anything. I hate arrogance and ignorance as well as stupidity + superficiality in people. I often become distant as I am in my own thoughts, fantasizing, analyzing or just thinking about anything and everything. Majority of people annoy me to some extent but I all treat them kindly.

[goulas]

As a teenager I was horrid! I pitched fastpitch for varsity, international thespian society and chorus. I was like a walking dictionary and was even once asked by another softball player what the definition of a "bush" was and of course I gave Webster's version and they all laughed b/c I seemed to be unaware of the urban definition of it. I never had a boyfriend, had one or two close friends and even though I viewed myself as an outcast, it appears everyone else viewed my as a huge snob. Then I just went nuts one day and never returned to school. I dropped out and started drinking and using drugs and then I had quite a few boyfriends. My parents stepped in and had me arrested for using their credit card on a spree at Phipps Plaza and said I could stay locked up or volunteer for military school. I graduated from military school and joined the military afterwards (reserves) and went on to a private arts college where the cycle repeated on a larger scale. After THAT, I toned it down a few notches. I only wish I had been more aware of who I was as a teen and taken steps to be more assertive.

[rain]

I recall being bored all the time. I felt intellectually unstimulated. Also, I found the kids I went to high school with incredibly dull. Mainly, I skipped school to hang out with the college kids, went to raves and generally learned how to avoid getting in trouble with my parents.

[Seattleite]

Uh... I am an INTJ teenager...

But I think that the qualities you mention are the same for all teenagers.

An INTJ teenager usually stays home on the weekends because they aren't very social, but that really is the only difference between them and everyone else. Every single person is different, no matter what jung type they have.

[Feral]

I just read through the "Can you describe the INTJ teenage male?" thread and I was surprised by how most of them described themselves. Now I not so sure I am a INTJ. What differences can you see between the INTJ teenage male and female?

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

To other females do these things describe you as a teen also or might I be a different "type"?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'll give you how I was in high school.

I wasn't particularly rude, but I was always sarcastic. If I thought something needed challenging though, no matter where it came from, I was never shy about doing what I thought was right.

Not late for class. If I thought I was going to be late, I just wouldn't go.

I didn't do any hard drugs, but I smoked plenty of weed... small town, not a ton of other things to do when I wasn't busting my ass in my extra curricular activities.

I was pretty quiet, except for around my close friends. Most people thought I was 'shy, sweet, and innocent', which cracks me right the hell up, because I was definitely none of those things!

Most of my friends considered me to be a bit of a robot. They counted on me to have unbiased, emotionless advice to whatever problem they couldn't figure out.

Half the school thought I was prude. The other half thought I was a slut. Neither was the case. I was a virgin all throughout high school, but it wasn't because I was prude, it was because I refused to sleep with any of them in particular. I hung out with mostly guys, so those who didn't know me generally thought I must be sleeping with them.

I was involved in all sorts of things, while still remaining a distinctive introvert. Most of the people in that town knew me, either from some event or from the news paper, but I didn't know who half of them were. I was very competitive in a lot of things, and I did very well at those things.

I didn't really care about excelling in school, or at least in the classes that I knew I'd have no application for later in life (and indeed, I've still not used that useless garbage). I did very well in the classes that interested me, though.

I don't know anything about walking speed having to do with anything... I tend to walk pretty fast, apparently. I don't think I walk fast, I just have long strides.

[anumericalevil]

hmmm. i was, and still am quite introverted, preferring to keep to myself rather than be around people. i tried hard to fit in when i was younger, though. my parents termed me as rebellious, although I wouldn't say it was not without reason- I was sort of like the favourite of a few teachers in school and my pattern of socialization was with adults more than peers my age. i had a hard time in school, faced alienation from the other girls and hung out at the library, reading books voraciously. my friends included my teachers and librarians, although i had a reputation for standing up to authority and disrespecting it often (within reason).

i was never emotionally close to anyone since nursery. i was always the weird fat girl who sits in a corner and plays her toys by herself, completely ignoring everyone else. i only interacted with people when i wanted things, and i guess the trend continues.

as i grew older, i watched tv shows and learnt social skills through it- learnt to read emotions in eyes, observed how people reacted to stimuli.

grades wise, i guess i usually did above average. i don't think that it's because i'm extremely intelligent or anything- i choose to believe that the people around me weren't too bright and hardworking enough! (you would understand why because compared to the outside world, there are more intelligent people, so, the low confidence)

i guess i cannot really say for sure what people thought of me, because i don't know. i am not very aware of my surroundings and tend to ignore the feelings of people. im the type who needs you to tell me if im being effed up or else i will never realise it. im just not very socially oriented, and it gets frustrating at times when the world has a lot of utter IDIOTS who think that everyone was born to fulfill their expectations. i really can't stand such people.

[Bankrobber]

I'm INTJ and a teenage girl but I think it is very hard to describe myself, but I guess I can give it a try. I'm very asocial but in school I always treat my classmates friendly, and most of them have told me that I am a funny person, and I definately use sarcasm a lot. But I don't really like my new class mates but I keep it to myself, I suffer in silence. But some of them are just sooo annoying and not screaming at them is a great effort of my part.

My main interests are movies and psychology and stuff like that, I'm kind of an internert addict. In some instances I am a typical teenage girl. I dream a lot about unrealistic things. But a lot of people tell me that I am cynical, which I guess I am from times to times.

I guess I'm attractive, I care about my appearance and I get a lot of attention from guys, though I rearly respond it (and it usually fades away when guys get to know me, I tend to get very arrogant towards guys). I'm not very socially awkward (or atleast I try my best to hide my awkwardness), but I can be quite goofy, I think it's important to be able to make fun of yourself and not take yourself to seriously. My close friends thinks I'm werid because I have certain qualities, like my obsessesion with structure and routines, but they love me anyway, and perhaps not despite my weirdness but because of it.

But like a lot of teenagers I often feel depressed, it's some stuff in my past and the present isn't always that easy either. I like school and study a lot and always try to perform my best, school is very important to me. I'm in the gifted programme (or whatever it's called in English, it's a programme at an esteemed high school here in Sweden were only students with exceptionally high grades are accepted) now, but I don't like it, I get to competitive, in my last school I was the smartest one in my class, and now, well I don't know.

I guess I'm kind of a nerd but it's not that bad. Like Bill Gates once said: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.

My time will come (I keep telling myself).

[Ceres]

I never rebelled against authority, excepting the occasional impassioned argument to my mum on why i should be allowed to do the something.

I was very quiet, studious. I had a small group of friends, the misfits from my year, and occasionally we would hang out outside of school. I was the smartest in that group (by a long way) but i tried to hide that fact a lot of the time.

I felt distant from everyone, including my friends. I would read a lot, and pushed myself to do things outside my comfort zone.

[perefalc]

I enjoyed learning but didn't do spectacular grade wise as I dislike busy work aka homework. I guess i was sort of a smart, silent, slacker. I spent a lot of time reading and doing things online. umm...I never really rebelled or anything but i never really got involved with anything either.

[CJ9]

While still technically a teenager (18, i am now at University) l will speak about my time at High school.
To most l appeared in control, well liked, no problems interacting, and socially and academically well rounded. I achieved A's, was School Captain and was heavily involved in music. However much of the time, particulalry my last two years of school l resented it.
I really had only a few friends, but even those we didn't really connect and l couldn't be bothered trying. I was happy to sit in the library at lunchtime and read or do homework. Socializing was pulled of with ease, despite much of time hating the frivioulous small chat. I could make myself come across as confident, charamatic and extroverted. But afterschool l relished in the ability to go home and be myself. Some would say there could have been an air of 'i'm better than this' and maybe it was. I just didn't see the point in connecting with people unless socially required.
I never had any relationships. The boys l was interested in (the extroverted and charastmatic) never took notice and those that were interested in me, were knocked down with strong verbal wit.
Among the student body l was made fun of on a regular basis, however l never reacted and it was always assumed in good faith.
With my family, l was stubbon in what l wanted to and my views, but was well behaved
I was well behaved, unrebellious: a perfect student and daughter. I achieved and came across as perfect, however personally my life just didn't feel together

Now at uni, i have defintiely grown. Much more of my time is spent socialising, going out at night, but much of the time l'd been much happier to stay home and watch a movie.
After being out a few dates a friend of mine has often said goodluck to the next boy that try's to date me. I cannot stand dates where conversation appears to be soley my responsibility and my date will not talk or argue. I have often ended dates early, claiming another appointment. I just don't see the point.

High Standards? Performing to what society expects of you but not caring that much, may be apparent in teenage INTJ's l believe

[lucyinthefknsky]

I just read through the "Can you describe the INTJ teenage male?" thread and I was surprised by how most of them described themselves. Now I not so sure I am a INTJ. What differences can you see between the INTJ teenage male and female?

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

To other females do these things describe you as a teen also or might I be a different "type"?

I am a 21-year-old INTJ female. As a teenager I kept my mind to myself, preferring to write in journals than discuss with fellow peers who seemed on an entirely different wavelength. I felt incredibly alone because of the disconnect between my level of understanding and others. I respected rules, for the most part because I couldn't stand getting in trouble and the confrontation it caused. I did drugs, not a a social mechanism, but by myself without telling anyone about it. I didn't want attention, I wanted annihilation.

I hung out with mostly boys, preferring their simplicity rather than dramatics. I didn't care what other people thought of me to the point that I would alienate some.

I was constantly in motion. Walking fast (and I still do), like yourself. Trying to find distraction.

I was the frontwoman of a punk rock band. This gave me an alter-ego to express myself openly. I was more hesitant to speak one on one with someone than perform in front of hundreds. I also wrote highly personal poetry that I freely let others read, feeling that it could speak better than I in public. I was not afraid of people, I was just unable to communicate with them efficiently.

Like yourself, I was also in marching band. I was in colorguard, another arena to perform under an alter-ego. I was also in drumline, which I preferred (less drama). I was captain of the drumline my senior year and my determination and unwavering dedication, rather than strict discipline, kept the line together during a particularly turbulent season.

I would push myself beyond my limits in a project that I found challenging, but in everyday school-work I merely floated through. I put myself in challenging, uncomfortable, unfamiliar positions to prove something to myself.

In summary, I pushed myself for my own sake. It was a sort of therapy, but also a sort of self-destruction. I wasn't a happy person then because I felt trapped and isolated. I wanted something something something to quench the craziness inside my head, that I couldn't express properly. I did think I was crazy then, I do not any more.

Once I moved beyond those teenage years I learned to accept that I was different, and in that acceptance I was able to form meaningful relationships with others. I pushed myself out of that trapped situation into a prestigious university that scared the hell out of me, coming from a small rural public school. I was entirely unprepared academically, but I continued to push myself to excellence. And I continue to push myself to the "out-side" world, which now seems like my playground, instead of a jail cell.

[tcp]

I used to test as ENFP as a teenager. I suppose at times I still have an ENFP social mask because people who don't know me very well see me as cute and shy.
I was a severely depressed teenager, very lonely, and I excelled at everything I did for the lack of having anything better to do. I was incredibly oblivious to other people, socially awkward, and got bullied a lot. I think people from back then remember me as 'that weird freak'. I had no goals, or at least I thought I had no goals -- I simply did not understand or want what other people wanted. I'm still in the process of discovering myself even though I'm about to hit my mid-twenties.

I can relate to others on this thread who say they used to think they were crazy and now they don't. Not sure how to put it, but I'm starting to feel ... okay with myself.

[DanteFalling]

Those who knew me loved me to death and thought I was: "brilliant and sweet."
Those who didn't know me though I was a stuck up bastard who looked down on others.

It's really amazing to me to run into people from high school. I've gotten stopped (and pulled out of my IN world) by cash register people who then insist they knew me in high school (they've even held up the people in line behind me to talk about how I handed them their diploma [as if you'd remember someone because of that]) or tell me how different I looked or how I hadn't changed).

I was a VERY conservative dresser in the beginning of high school. I was 5'10" 118 lbs and just starting to get a chest by the time I graduated. I've had a checker at a store ask (IN FRONT OF OTHER CUSTOMERS!) if I had a "boob job." It was one of the most humiliating moments of my life. I was bright red.


I was often confused with the Mormon and Catholic girls. I had hair past my hips. I was incredibly introverted but could go ESFP when uncomfortable. I was the high school valedictorian. I ate weird things if people watched me. I made fun of the honors society and started chanting quietly to the hot guy nerds near me at our induction ceremony (we had to hold candles). I volunteered. I painted murals on the walls. I spent my time having heart-to-hearts with teachers or walking out of class without a bathroom pass and not getting stopped because I looked determined and had a blank piece of paper in my hand. I loved mocking the bureaucracy (which I felt kept intelligence and individual minds thwarted with red tape). My sister and I had a fun game in which we'd walk around in large, school encompassing circles when we were supposed to be in class. I mentally constructed what it must have looked like on the security cameras: twins walking in 10 minute circles on the first and second floors of the high school. I worked because I was poor, but no one seemed to realize that and instead thought I was prissy for wearing the business clothes I had to at fifteen. I had a bad home life.

I preferred the company of men. I preferred the company of my teachers and got too close to them.


In short, everyone from high school seems to have had a different view of me, and this pleases me in that it makes me feel like an INTJ/ISTP spy. :)

[fatkattykat]

Wow, the teenage years...

I remember taking the Meyers-Briggs (or some variant) as a teenager, but I cannot remember what my results were...I would imagine that it was probably similar to today. I would say I am probably a much mellower version of myself that I was in high school.

As a teenager, I had a hard time making friends. I was "emo" way before it was cool. I was bullied badly by people in junior high and had a rough home life growing up. I didn't trust people, and didn't care much for the "preppy kids" (which was pretty much everyone because I went to a small private high school). I felt like if I rejected them first, then it would not hurt so much when they would inevitably reject me. I was very nervous around people. Despite being introverted, I was a lot lonelier in high school because I only had one close friend who I could hang out with. Part of me felt pressure to always be doing stuff, and I felt like a loser because I didn't really have a clique.

My favorite class by far was art class. I also loved to read. I worked in a library my senior year of high school and read soooo many books. I also spend a lot of time writing stories and fanfiction. And playing Snood...lots of Snood...

[Stickman]

Watch an episode of Daria (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) and you'll see...

[themuzicman]

My daughter is INTJ (I'm pretty sure anyway), but we (my wife and I) have explained to her many times that her grades in school will affect what colleges she gets into and that affects your options after college, and she understands all that.

Of course, I think she understands all that because she learned it playing soccer: Doing the things that no one really wants to do is the difference between pretty good and very good.

She's not a straight A student because she fights the "this is dumb.. why do I have to do this" and "it's boring" thing along with "why do we have group projects? I could do this better myself" things.

She has friends, and has fun with them, but not a lot of them. We moved recently, and one of her major complaints was, "I just learned who I could trust." And I think that's a major concern for her.

If you ask her opinion, or try to tell her something that is stupid, she'll give you both barrels. I can remember when a teacher gave her the whole "global warming" spiel. The derision and sarcasm was flowing heavily when she got home. (Yes, she's learned not to do that directly to the teacher, for the most part.)

So, she's adjusted fairly well.. Having an ESFJ mom that understands her helps.

[Pezzi]

I am currently an INTJ teenage female, and I don't mind highschool that much. It's ok. I have a couple of very close friends who make it enjoyable for me (an ENTx female and an xNFJ male). Classmates usually describe me simply as "weird, but the good kind of weird (wink wink grin)." My family, on the other hand, also agrees that I am weird, but will add in other terms such as "hermit," "cold" and "heartless," all which amuse me greatly.

When at school, however, I usually make an effort to be somewhat friendly with people I don't know very well (for the sake of avoiding unnecessary conflict).

[Mint]

She's not a straight A student because she fights the "this is dumb.. why do I have to do this" and "it's boring" thing along with "why do we have group projects? I could do this better myself" things.


I'm an teenager finishing highschool in November, and I had the same sort of mentality towards subjects I found uninteresting or 'useless'. Thankfully in my final years I was able to chose subjects that interested me. I aim to do well because the university course I want to get into requires high marks. Also, I go (went!) to a school where there was a lot of academic pressure and competition which I never really bought into; I've never really made my standards relative to my peers.

I walk pretty fast too, like the OP but I don't think that's INTJ-related, I usually have somewhere to go. I've been labled "weird", but only by my friends who appreciate it. They're pretty quirky too. I keep to myself a lot and I suppose at worst people regard my behaviour as a novelty (girls' school...). I get on well with adults, even strangers if there's just one, but groups of people make me feel really uncomfortable.

Edit: I don't think I'm going to change that much as I get older- I think I'm a very similar person now to who I was when I was 15, from reading old letters and things. But time will tell! That being said I still manage to have very little respect for the "me" I was weeks or
months ago.

[liquidzilla]

I was depressed, lonely, confused, untrusting, slightly violent. I think alot of it came from having a much older bf at one point and being abused by him on and off. I achieved fine grades, coasted along in school, hating every minute of it (apart from history class) and eventually arrived in college which I loved, but still felt horribly alone even though I made quite a few new friends.
To be honest very little has changed from my younger years. I'm more withdrawn, less violent, more emotional and more cynical. I think as a teenager I was an ENFJ and switched to an INTJ for self preservation.

[SongofSeptember]

Well, I know two INTJ teenage females quite well and the only thing I can think to say is that they could not be more different (I am certain they're both correctly typed--one seems to be borderline S, though). Actually, the only similarity that comes to mind immediately is their introversion, but that's not a particularly striking quality for either. Only now that I think about it do I realize that they often have similar attitudes towards me. Both are somewhat derisive of my tendency to do things on a whim and frown upon my need to rebel for the sake of rebellion itself (although both are quite rebellious)--both stress purpose and decisiveness in everyday life. But that's really all I can think of.

[cms]

I am not sure if I was an INTJ teenager.. but it may of been my teenage years which has played a role in now being an INTJ adult.

The teenage years were hard. I found myself more stressed out than anything. Looking back I always had high expectations of my peers, and was constantly disappointed. I not sure what it was but ever since elementary I would always look for the best in people and thought that most people did the same. I had to deal with bullying around age 12-13, it got to the point that my parents had to switch my school. But I still held on to the notion that apart from a few bad apples the majority of my peers were inherently 'good people'. Also since elementary I thought my way of thinking was the norm, I thought everyone thinks and wonders about their existence on a daily basis, questions why things are the way the are, I spent most of elementary and junior high wondering how things came into being and why I existed and thought everyone else did the same. It wasn't until till highschool (I know socially moronic) when I realized most people weren't thinking.. about anything more than their own egos.(repeat socially retarded, my closest friends were home-schooled Christians ) That threw me to the opposite end of the spectrum made me feel like a fool and a loner. I started to get angry at people for talking about things that I didn't consider important (like parties/drinking /sex) I started to believe everyone was retarded. Realized I was loner and always would be. Started hanging out with other loners and punks thinking they understood, realized they were no better.. the rest is pretty standard skipped school, cause I hated being there, smoked too much pot while at school because I hated being there.. Read about a book or two a week, isolated myself and slowly turned into a bitter brooding teenager.
Grew up realized that, that frame of mind is not conducive to a healthy happy life and Still battling to this day with trying to see the good in people..not sure if its because my teenage years, but the older I get the less I care. Which is something else I try and battle.

yup life story.

[vampyroteuthis]

i was rude, bunked of school, frustrated, under achieved, day dreamy and very very hard to engage with. i had very little connections, if not none at all. these are the things, i believe people seen of me, if they at all noticed me.

i however liked to sing in my room. i like to play my keyboard and make songs up. i loved to read myself to sleep. i loved dancing and i loved to draw. i would do all these things without another soul on the planet knowing or taking any interest in the fact i done these things. i loved dreaming and at one stage believed it to be better than being awake. i constantly felt constricted by circumstances. i felt trapped by other peoples expectations. i never felt in charge of my life. this being a skill i had to teach myself.

totallybarmy, this was me to a T. Wish you'd gone to my high school.

[INTJfemale]

I can describe myself as a female INTJ teen long long ago! Moody, angry at the world and especially men, introverted, had close friends but not a lot of them, slacker but somehow on the honor roll and enrolled in college classes while still in high school, high test scores, loved science fiction, made a model of the USS Starship Enterprise and had it hanging in my room, was in love with Mr. Spock, listened to Dr. Demento religiously every Sunday night, wanted to run away, loved marine biology, dressed totally nerdy (not a clue how to dress), and couldn't understand all the fuss about dating. Wanted to find meaning in the universe. Never wanted to get married or have children. (But I did.) Many people thought I might be gay but I wasn't and never have been. I just hate all that stupid female stuff like makeup, clothes, etc. Challenged authority. Ditched class all the time and never got in trouble for it. Rode my bike a lot and took walks to get out of the house. Was into classical music.

[ReinaMorena]

I had to deal with bullying around age 12-13, it got to the point that my parents had to switch my school. But I still held on to the notion that apart from a few bad apples the majority of my peers were inherently 'good people'.

Interesting.

I dealt with bullies (I preferred to call them "haters," lol) at this age, too, and into HS, too. It never escalated to the point where I had to switch schools - in fact, my parents never even knew. I considered it, and concluded that it wouldn't help the situation.

Aside from that, somewhere along the way, I had stopped believing that my peers were inherently good. For me, school was like a constant ethnographic study - I was always observing my peers' behaviors and drawing whatever conclusions I could about human nature. I saw that a lot of my peers were untrustworthy and insecure, and I knew that what I was going through at the hands of my peers wasn't truly about me at all. I accepted that I would always be the target of such "haters."

I became VERY good at making people feel bad by pointing out their flaws and playing upon their insecurities. I spoke very little, yet was known for having a sharp tongue. I was extremely sarcastic and cynical. Yes, a bitch. But at the time, I felt it was a matter of survival.

[sadf]

bored all the time, hate school, most people bug/confuse me, im an underachiever,very cynical, avoidant, a little schizotypal, and all my friends except one are from online forums .

[Thinktress]

It would have been really nice to know that there were other INTJ's in the world back when I was in high school.

[azelismia]

I was more of an INTP as a teenager, probably with occasional F flurries in my early teens.

I spent a lot of time reading, drawing, painting, sulking - solitary activities - but I felt more compelled then to try to keep up socially than I have since. Being immersed in the kind of interpersonal contact that's fostered in school left me really puzzled by myself and the way I saw things, but I had friends, I did stuff with them occasionally... I remember the summer after Junior year was actually pretty fun, that way.

I was not often in trouble, since I tend to go around instead of through roadblocks... and wasn't all that interested in hellraising, anyway. I was constantly late for classes, and missed assignments all the time. I did used to race cars on a very windy hill. Oh, and I started tinkering with smoking- tobacco and pot, just a little. But I was a Good Kid - the times when I was overtly disrespectful to an adult were few. (Though they do make for funny stories, now.)

I was anxious, and thoughtful, and a little strange. Same as now, but the strangeness was more noticeable then.

Used to sometimes just walk home when I was supposed to be in class. I had kind of a different arrangement, though, so it wasn't as big a deal; I got my GED when I was 16 but stayed to take whatever classes I felt interested in. I was absolutely unconcerned about my GPA - I think my last one on record was about 1.75.

I had a LOT more drama in me then. But it was justified, it was freaking hard trying to understand what I ought to do, when what everyone else around me seemed to want made no sense to me. Really having to make things up for yourself is tough.


I was very similar except I did raise a fair amount of hell and got in some minor trouble (got caught with a pipe and some bud in the girls room) but for some of the things I did major trouble could have ensued if I had gotten caught. (I was too clever for that though) I more than dabbled with MJ and Smoking and Booze and was a leader of a loose group of about four core people that increased to up to ten people depending on who was around. I was leader because I was the only one who came up with things to do. I was a little maniacal about it because they'd do nearly ANYTHING I mentioned, so i'd often push the limits just to see if I could. I remember leading them on a 8 mile hike in the pouring rain stoned off our gourds with no particular destination telling them just that we were going to do something really cool and we were almost there. They never did catch on to that we did it all the time. lol. we'd usually end up at some park or another. We spent a lot of time outside.... in the rain.. (it was seattle after all) I remember one day sitting by a stream with someone else in the pouring rain just because. I also used to like mystery bus rides. we'd just randomly get on buses and see where they took us. the worst one I remember vividly. we took a bus out to richmond beach and I got the bright Idea that we could walk back to seattle on the beach. I convinced people it would be no sweat. it was something like an 8 mile hike with no liquid on a 74 degree day (I don't remember exact distances but It's quite a distance. in the end I think I had to call my mom to come get us. we did make it back to Seattle but we lived No where near the shore. of some of the edgier things we did, I used to like social experiments. we'd do things like sit on the post office wall in a row and keep dead pan faces and watch people go by only moving our heads in unison. (we almost got beat up by skin heads for this one but we all kept the act up and in the end they got freaked out when they were yelling threats at us and we just kept staring at them stony faced. they actually ran.. then we packed up and went in the opposite direction. (I was pretty sure they'd be back to kick our asses shortly). we also used to dress up in trench coats all black, dark glasses...and follow people around the airport. (it was the 80's you could get by with it) we also had a fake band that we were promoting as the newest hottest cool thing. we knew a lot of bands so even they were wearing our teeshirts on stage. it was fun. People pretended they had seen us in concert when brought up.
I have left out the things I did that might have gotten me into trouble. None of it was intentionally bad.. but it was. lol. experiments that got out of control if you will.

I suspect I was closer to an Entj back then. Pot makes me very gregarious and I really don't like being alone when on it. My imagination is bigger than I am. I used to scare myself silly when alone with various stories I'd make up and partially believe. when I was alone i'd read - A lot. my record was 6 or 7 books in a day. the consensus was that I would either grow up to be a lawyer or a used car sales man because I was very clever and persuasive in getting what I wanted and convincing people my way was best. I also did not care a whit about school as it wasn't teaching me anything I did not already know. I would read the textbook first week of classes and they'd say nothing new after that. I did watch documentaries and that sort of thing and before trying any kind of drug or not trying it, I'd spend hours in the library researching it's effects on you. I kept out of serious trouble that way. most of my crowd ended up on the hard stuff. I dropped out of school at 17 after not attending most of the year before that and got my GED. no one thought I'd be able to just walk in and take it and pass but that's what I did. I had a lot of self confidence that I think spilled over to arrogance. but that got beaten out of me as I got older. I always knew I'd be ok though and that I wasn't going to be a dead end loser. (and I am not).

the problem was (let's go back to the control and power threads that have been hanging around) was that no one around me was stronger than I was. No one could or would check me and I really needed discipline. I asked for it regularly. I used to joke with my elders that I needed military school ( I think I actually did need that) actual military would have killed me. that wasn't an option. What I was really looking for was direction. Why should I be disciplined if there is no end goal? why should I do this or do that when there is no cherry at the end. the answer was just do it, which really didn't fly with me. There were also no solid plans for scholarships or anything like that for me that I could chase. they put me in a special school for kids who were gifted that revolved around making your own scholastic program which was a total fail because I had no personal direction. that's what I needed help with most of all and the counselors there were not helpful with providing that. too much freedom and no clear plan for an end goal. I had a natural J desire and need but was surrounded in an ocean of P.

so basically long story short. I got lost in the educational system. I fell thru cracks and as an adult I do regret that.

My lack of discipline has really hurt me. I think I was to a large degree, wasted talent. I had no direction on how to get into a good college (which was why I went the path I did. As I saw no immediate reachable goal, I decided the goal was to have fun and crazy experiences while I was still young enough to get by with it. actual military would have killed me. that wasn't an option although, in hindsite... maybe it should have been. at least I would have gotten a degree and probably would be doing something interesting in the sciences now.

I did not think I was mature enough to drive so I didn't pursue that until I was 21.

[t3hrubikscube]

Well I'm still only 18, but as a younger teen (13-17) I went through a lot of phases, but I was still essentially the same person underneath the phases. I may have dressed differently or listened to different music, but my personality was always the same.

Throughout my teen years, I was very quiet, introverted, shy, and humble. People tended to either like me or not care about me/not know me. I found it hard to make friends. I was very involved in a few certain things. I was a bit lazy. I was intelligent. I didn't live up to my potential. I was respectful. I treated people well, even if I didn't respect them...just because it was easier. I was emotional only in private.

I guess I'm still the same, though, really...but then again I'm still only 18.

[Thoth]

"Hot." And the temperature only rises as they get older.

[ya lyublyu tebya]

I was bullied a lot. :dead: I was at the top of every class, despite most of the teachers hating my guts. People who knew me and people who didn't saw very, very different things. To friends, I was warm and kind. To acquaintances, I was polite and reserved. To strangers, I was the scary, quiet one who was probably going to blow up the school. In reality, it was just that I stood up for myself, and depending on was said, I was anywhere from cold to aggressive to downright creepy. Really, I just wanted to be left to whatever obscure topic I was researching or whatever video game I was playing at the moment.

It's basically the same now, only I don't have any classes to be at the top of, and no one here knows me. I never went through the "teenage rebellion" nonsense, because I never cared enough about society or other people to want to rebel against anything. My parents didn't, either, so it was just never even thought of.

[Geminii]

God I hate high school, I'm so sick of it.

For what it's worth, it gets better afterwards. LOTS better. You get a lot more control over where you learn, what you learn, and how fast you learn it. You get better mobility options. More services open up to you. You get adult wages, if you work. Whether you go on to higher education or the workforce, you get a fresh set of faces to interact with who know nothing about your past. If you're lucky, some of them are even worth talking to. The world opens up enormously, as you finally get to rip your way out of the boring, mundane, bullying, idiotic, socially toxic, mentally and physically confining straitjacket of high school.

[AtheneNoctua]

As a teenage INTJ, I don't generally tend to challenge authority - I have my personal reservations about the education system, but have never seen the point in pursuing them and rebelling. It seems rather like a waste of time - although I have had my rebellious days when I'll give cutting remarks to the teacher. I can easily get the top grades without too much work and I enjoy academical subjects, particularly history. I can also get very competitive with my few intellectual equals...
With friends, I'm known to be slightly emotionless, intelligent, serious and, on the odd occasion, very sarcastic. I try my hardest to surpress my INTJ traits around friends, probably because I'm socially aware enough to know that life's much easier for those with good aquaintances to stick up for you.
As a younger teenager I was far more socially awkward, read ridiculous amounts and didn't have many friends.
I also have a horrible habit of looking down on anyone I consider to be inferior, and I often won't bother with them.

[Feral]

When I was in high school, my friends and I took turns one time describing one another.
Everyone had their own adjectives: funny, bubbly, ditzy, smart, confident, outgoing, quiet, etc.
Except for me. When they came to say how they would describe me, there was a pause. Then one of them said 'you're just... Dawn!' (that's my name :P).

So they couldn't describe me. I can barely describe myself.
I was pretty quiet, but I was open to everyone. Anyone could talk to me, for any reason. I was into art, drama, photography, animals. I didn't do any school sports, but I showed horses in my off time. I played a lot of video games. Smoked a lot of herb. Volunteered in my community.

I questioned anything that I had a question about. If there was some book we had to read for a class simply because it was a classic, I had to ask why this book was important, and what made it good (my English teacher was furious when I told her that The Sun Also Rises was a terrible book!)

I watched people a lot. I didn't get into religions. I didn't care so much about my grades, and just barely graduated. Not because I didn't know the stuff, but because I didn't care about most of it.

... still doesn't seem very descriptive.

[LogicLady]

I just read through the "Can you describe the INTJ teenage male?" thread and I was surprised by how most of them described themselves. Now I not so sure I am a INTJ. What differences can you see between the INTJ teenage male and female?

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

To other females do these things describe you as a teen also or might I be a different "type"?

You sounds A LOT like me. In fact, there is nothing there that I wouldn't say about myself.

Personally, I didn't see the use of being violent or taking drugs back in school. Those things didn't logically fit in with my plan. There were times when I did speak out to authority figures, and they didn't always like it, but I knew for the most part not to let it get out of hand.

I also definitely push myself to do things that make me uncomfortable, like the things you mentioned. I think people therefore see me as a lot more confident than I am.

I don't see myself as very rude, either. Rudeness would be going out of my way to criticize people just to see them hurt or calling people names. I don't see a point to any of that, though I've certainly been treated like that by others. However, I've become aware that other people do often see me as rude. I've been accused of being cold, a bitch, snobby, thinking I'm better than others, etc. Knowing myself as only I can, I don't believe any of that is really true. I acknowledge my abilities as appropriate (rather than play dumb) but see myself as very humble overall. I think it would be stupid and illogical of me to say that I am somehow more valuable a person than another person. How would I even judge that? On what values? Why? In fact, I hate that sort of thinking. But I realize now that excelling at so many things like I do (in part because I try so many things), that people feel insecure by my successes and probably don't see my failures as much as I do. And I certainly having feels, no matter how poorly others may read them.

[Pavlov]

Very studious, I don't know if they are still using the term but AP classes/Pre-College track. I loved school, even in Kindergarten I told my mom I can walk to the door alone on my first day. Getting bad grades in Math really upset me when I was younger, that is the subject I was not good at, excel in the Sciences though. I went to school for the learning, would carry home my backpack full of heavy books and studied a hour after I got home. My parents didn't need to tell me to do my home work and crap like that. I managed my own time and did my studies.

Teachers had no problem with me, sat in the front of the class. A few teachers use to tell me I acted like a "old soul". Looking back I did act mature. I was shy and quiet but manage to be active in clubs and band. Didn't really care about friends later on in high school like Junior year I stopped "trying to fit in". No body singled me out for my shyness or tried to beat me up, but guys sure did seem to take a notice. But I was relationship immature to really respond as I should. I just wanted out so that I could go on to Uni. I wanted to be an Exchange Student and study abroad, but no money to get into the program. Higher education is loads better then high school. I think I really spread my wings when I went to a very large University thousands of miles away from home at 17 1/2.

[LogicLady]

Higher education is loads better then high school. I think I really spread my wings when I went to a very large University thousands of miles away from home at 17 1/2.

I'll agree with that! I came from a small, rural town and it was so easy to feel like a total freak just for loving learning and being so logical. College was a lot better! That's when I started to see that the problem wasn't me so much as my environment.

[bballtomboy]

love learning, reading, writing, working out, sleeping outside on a bench, thinking inside my head, talking to myself, and very rarely hanging out with a friend.
hated the preps, rich kids, jocks..haha that basically everyone right there.

As a teenager (and even now) I am: sarcastic, rude, *supposedly* arrogant, smart, never late to class, hate small talk, dont care what people think of me, wear comfortable clothes, hate gossip, hate girly girls, and believe I am better/smarter than the rest of the people in my classes.

[MortalWombat]

I'm a teenage INTJ female. I would describe myself as similar to other INTJ women, or at least the majority of them. I like my alone time, and I am seen as critical and intolerant. I tend to have very high standards, in myself and others, which is probably why I am depicted as critical. I appreciate thought and intelligence, and am not very involved with trivial girlish things.

[trigona]

Well for the most part I was bored. I read the dictionary and the encyclopaedia.
But I am a borderline E/I and J/F so I think I switched a bit (even now). Socially, it was evident that girls are supposed to be bubbly and friendly. It is an act I can still hold up today - even if I want to stab you in the eye with a fork to stop you talking at me.
I do know there was pressure on me not to show my smarts which pissed me off.
If any of my guy friends ever mentioned how arractive I was they would be cut dead in the water and I would never help them again with their work.
I was pretty shy really. Overall though I was never dark or a particularly depressed teenager. I do remember not ever having an opinion on anything.
I like to call it my data collection phase.

[taciturn]

Well, I'm still a teenager, but in college, so I'll address myself both as a high schooler and now.

HIGH SCHOOL: There was definitely a transition from ENTP to INTJ. Since one's extroverted intuition and the other's introverted, I'd argue the main difference between me freshman year and senior year was reclusion. (I'd also like to argue that INTJs are just misanthropic ENTPs, but that's a different thread) he first 3 years I dressed gothic: combat boots, chains, violet hair, you name it. After that I transitioned to business casual, brand-y clothing, due to involvement in various medical and political forums and the realisation that no senator would take a teenage punk with blue hair seriously. I was always known as clever (I did quite a few extra-curricular and co-founded the school's debate team) and was popular among the competent teachers. Students liked me for the most part, majorly because they were afraid of being in opposition with me. Incompetent teachers got the grunt of my comments, I remember convincing one that it was a holiday; he let the class out and we went home. I didn't date at all, wasn't interested in wasting my time, energy, emotions. I avoided school dances like the plague, and enrolled in the max amount of AP/honors courses, then petitioned to be let into more.

COLLEGE: There's no need for social interaction. I get enough of it through my classes and through student government. I'm paying to study, to learn, and to get an education, not to get drunk. I'm still the frighteningly impressive one in most classes (save the math-based ones) and I sketch/play the piano quite a bit. I'm more interested in internships than going home over break, and am told nearly every day to relax, loosen up, have fun.As far as I'm concerned, my studies are plenty fun. Oh, and I'm working two jobs, so I'm generally busy.

[Rachel45]

I wore the over-elaborate ESFP mask. I just had to. When my parents divorced I kind of went into a juvenile deliquent tail-spin; I could not process what was happening and I acted out. At the age of eleven, I ran the streets and by the time I was thirteen I had been arrested twice for truancy. My INTJ traits rose briefly to the surface when I was fifteen and sixteen. I started reading Ayn Rand and "got" her instantly. I became very disciplined and focused and I was fiercely independent. I was also very self-confident, arrogant, and proud.I believe all of those years wearing a mask (this continued into adulthood), brought me to where I am today ultra-overacheiver at my school and a pain-in -the-a*s perfectionist. It is like I have experienced a war and have finally come home. My INTJ traits have always been there, I know, but they had to be unearthed and I feel like I have been returned to my true self.

[TheBlackKnight]

Well, I sat at a table alone at lunch reading a book about the Titanic, eventually decided to skip lunch and just use it as my study hall by sitting in the library, avoided people but did try to get involved with theater and Academic Team in senior year... highly suspicious and cautious around everyone new I met, never really had any friends my own age, the teachers treated me as one of them, and the librarian would do special favors for me if I asked. Found most of the other kids tedious to be around; over-achiever later on, under-achiever early on (I get by with flying colors without even trying, why bother to study?)

[graktensai]

currently end of teenage

- highly arrogant, but do not show...
- high achiever in all academic areas... sigh...
- not good at physical things tho...like sports...and dance..etc.
- enjoys arts profoundly - drawing, performing, filming, acting, singing....whatever you call them.
- set extremely high standards for myself
- catagorise people into two, one is 'useful' and the other one is 'not useful'
- annoyed easily at dumb people
- enjoys being alone, the whole 'pack' thing drains me to no end.
- enjoys hard math questions...
- enjoys reading
- I have this OCD...or maybe you can't call it OCD, but I just CAN'T do things gradually...like say do some homework or some practice or learn something, bit by bit everyday.
If I do something, I NEED to finish it in one to two goes. So it's like a 'chunk' mentality.
I don't know if this is common...but I've stuck with it for forever..and I JUST CANT get rid of it, since it can get really bad sometimes...like...I don't sleep for two days, doing my work like crazy...then I sleep incessantly for the next three days...or something similar.

Sigh.

[WhiteHart]

My parents typed my and my siblings personalities when we were teenagers (we're all within 5 years of eachother). Surprisingly, my family is a statistical anomaly!! My mother is an ENTP, my father an INT/FJ, my brother is an INTP, and my poor sister is an ISFJ. I myself am an INTJ. Either way, there were rather good family dynamics for most of us, except for my sister! As a teenager, I was rather lonely, shy, anxious, experimental when it came to sex and drugs, was depressed at times, had violent tendencies at times, read voraciously, was fiercely independent, was thought of as an eccentric, did well in school once I enrolled in an advanced program, and hung out with the "bad kids" and misfits!

[AliTree]

had very few close friends, did a bunch of AP classes and mostly just stuck to that group of people, didn't do sports besides tennis, was in orchestra/band, was in forensics speech & debate, was in mock trial, quiet in new situations/with new people but when comfortable was the class clown, jaded when it came to romantic relations.
that was me at least in high school. i'm still a 'teenager' though (18).

[greenrocks]

As an INTJ teenage female,
- Enjoy reading books and still do to this day
- Fairly conceited
Getting better as of lately as I become older, I mature
Wanted to do well in most classes which I did but I also excelled at playing a variety of sports. Drawing was one of my favorite things to do.
- Easily annoyed
By people who didn't contribute any valuable opinion to a discussion, especially small talks. Now I'm able to put it up and bear longer than I used to (False pretense works)
- Quite lazy if not motivated
- Threw a tantrum just to get things go my way
- Dismissed others' ideas as soon as I already knew they didn't work (Strongly J, I decided to implement a bit of P in me and I want to be open to their ideas to see if any idea might work so I'd not overlook a good workable one)
- Terrible with emotional supports and still is!
- Crafty manipulated people to do things
Not always, only when a situation called for it.
- Viewed friends as tools
Not anymore. I have plenty of friends but only there is a small number of true friends I selected.
While it could be easy for them to earn my respect, it's not easy to earn my trust.
- Quickly witty and sarcastic, deadpan humor
I also tended to mock people, for the fun of it. I was told that I intimidated some people.
I'm nice, they just don't know me yet.
- Preferred to work solely instead in group
- Cold and detached to others
The closer people wanted to get to me; I do the opposite, I got farther.
- Steered clear of any intimate relationship
In fear(s) such as of getting trapped by people's expectations of me whether in succeeding or failing
- Disliked feeling powerless
- Concise when answering questions
- Didn't give a crap about what people thought of me

[JulietCapulet]

That shark avatar scared me a lot!:-O

From what I have seen in my experience they seem...hm, kind of like that character Bella in Twilight. Really smart, not materialistic, shy, quiet and focused.

[Wundervoll]

That shark avatar scared me a lot!:-O

From what I have seen in my experience they seem...hm, kind of like that character Bella in Twilight. Really smart, not materialistic, shy, quiet and focused.

As a female INTJ teenager, this is just ... ouch. I can't believe I actually need to point this out, but Bella Swan? Not at all smart.

(I could only endure the first book so do forgive me if the character has a complete personality overhaul further in).

[floramacivor]

I haven't read past the first three responses, and it's been a long time since I was a teenager.

I was quiet, interested in "real" things, but nobody else was, so I remember looking in the library for books about things like "the meaning of life," even though I was too young and uneducated to make much sense of some of the books I'd find. I did read a lot; I especially liked historical fiction, especially about the Tudors. I really did want desperately to fit in, so I tried to force myself to be chatty and friends with people I had nothing in common with. At the time, I didn't know anything about MBTI. I just knew I was different, awkward and shy and that I wanted to be "normal." I was never rebellious or violent or rude. Deep down, I wanted to be pretty and sweet and liked, and hoped to turn myself into that kind of person, so I was working too hard at being normal to be rude. And all the time, secretly hoping/wishing there was more to life than that (and not very successful at becoming another type!)

[Petri]

As a teen, I sort of skipped adolescence....had an extended childhood that lasted through middle school and freshman year, then jumped straight into adulthood.

In high school I was quiet, withdrawn, and too busy reading to care about what was going on with the other teens around me. Very 'emo' compared to now, but not compared to my classmates.

[seeyouatx]

I was much like many of the others on this thread. I was very academic, loved reading, art, was very good at English, music, languages, and history (and Chemistry). However, I also had depression and frequently lost myself in emotional anguish, though I never shared it with others. I had a temper because I didn't know how to come to grips with everything inside of me. That's when I harnessed my rational, practical, side and moved forward without all of the emotions and self-hatred.

But no matter what the inner turmoil, I always kept a hard barrier up so no one could ever get to me. As a result, I had few close friends, spent more time reading and studying than being social, and very rarely had to deal with ridicule from others because they were somewhat wary of me. I wouldn't put up with their obnoxious chattering, so they generally left me alone.

I'm not sure how I would have tested during high school.

[Ceres]

I wasn't typed until I was 19, so I may not have been completely NTJ during highschool (O have no doubts about beeing I though).

I loved to read, had only a few friends, showed very little emotion at school.
I was studious and since kindergarten through to year 12 have been receiving the word "conscientious" on every single school report I have EVER received.
I didn't rebel, and I have always shied away from conflict.

[animalcule]

I'm 24 now and I consider myself an INTx; I relate a little more to descriptions of INTJs and usually test as such. I have always tested as an IN and tested as an INTJ for the first time when I was 9 or 10.

When I still lived with my family, it was a bad environment for me and I was generally miserable. I had crippling anxiety and depression ages 13-19 (when I escaped). This probably had a big effect on my personality as a teenager:

I was always physically and socially very immature for my age. My friends were always younger. I didn't date. It was like a switch flipped in my late teens, all of a sudden I was far, far more mature than my peers. I'm now in a LTR with a man 17 years my senior because boys my age seem like children.

I was very quiet, read obsessively, spent most of my time entirely in my own head. Constantly tried to distract myself from my reality because it was so painful. I am still an escapist but it's more about obsessive learning now.

School was torture. I thought it was stupid and insulting and refused to do the work, failed persistently, dropped out in 11th grade. I'm still scared to try college.

I did and do benefit immensely from organization and planning and crave stability and routine, but find it very hard to implement for myself.

I always disliked most people. Only lately has it stopped making me very angry.

Was and still am considered weird but interesting by most people (it helps I think that I'm pretty good-looking). Still true.

People respected me and try to live up to my expectations - they still do.

Attempts at bullying me were quickly foiled and often resulted in the bullies being more hurt than I was.

I only cared much about the feelings of the few people I liked. I was known for cutting comments and brutal honesty. I'm much nicer to everyone now, you have to piss me off for me to be honest.

Hated and resented socializing in general, in particular phones, small talk and social niceties. Not so bad now, not that I seek it out.

Never had trouble making friends with people I liked, and always had several close friends I enjoyed spending time with. Still true, but my boyfriend is my person of choice now and I neglect friendships.

Was always self-confident in who I was, what I liked, what I wanted - despite emotional abuse, people constantly telling me I was wrong, and my anxiety and depression. Even more true now that my life is better and I no longer have mental problems.

[Thyroid]

I read a lot about sex, and I loved to read it to be honest. ; I had zero communication with guys, most probably I was from an all girls' school.

I was always with a group of extroverts, however I disliked most of them. I was being too picky about others' weaknesses.

I hated schooling days, classes were boring, with tones of useless homework made me feel sick. I insulted most of my teachers innerly and sometimes openly.

I wasn't studious at all, I didn't do revision. Though, I did a lot better than my peers in the subjects I liked, specifically mathematics and science subjects.

I walked faster than almost all people.

[K27]

I don't have a good memory, but I am always blunt since small. I was pretty argumentative though. Not violant but very crude, robotic and boyish in terms of behaviour. Hmmm not much different except I'm much happier and motivated now.

[chills]

It is my observation that, especially younger, INTJ females tend to either appear in the classical INTJ image, or wear an overelaborate mask, which on the surface seems about as ESFP as possible.

This kind of "cleverly" disguised INTJ here! Only my closest friends really know who I really am (nerd whose greatest pleasure is to find information, read and play games or just sit and think..) Outwardly to manage normal social life I have developed this ESFP with ADHD mask. I snicker a lot, laugh, am hyperactive, sociable and talkative. People I trust the most are okay with both sides or they just think I'm being grumpy when my INTJness is visible. I don't see problem in this because my social mask really is me, only temporarily without brains.

Oh and I hate being different. I just reached the crucial age that defines me as an adult and I'm hoping so much the worst is behind. Trying to find who you are in society who expects you to be brainless girlie is horrible.

[Savvysavy]

It is my observation that, especially younger, INTJ females tend to either appear in the classical INTJ image, or wear an overelaborate mask, which on the surface seems about as ESFP as possible.

I don't think I could have explained it any better. Whenever I'm at school (for the sake of fitting in) I tend to act a lot unlike my self. To a lot of people I probably appear to be an ESTP. I don't really show my intuitive side at school because I figure that people would think I'm weird if I were to. I also push myself to be more talkative. Lastly, I tend to procrastinate and pretend I don't like school so I could agree with others and not stand out so much.

I know, it's bad. But when I get home my INTJ self comes out and I act just like the rest of you. (:

[Coralaisly]

Spent a lot of time feeling alone even though I had tons of superficial friends, and am told I was *gasp* popular.

I had a tendency to see through people. When I was angry I would tailor my reactions to them for maximum impact. One girl who thrived on attention made me angry and I looked at her like I had never seen her before. She said it made her feel invisible and worse than nothing "the worst anyone's ever made me feel".

I ONLY apologized when I felt it was necessary and warranted (very rare because I thought prior to acting).

I cut people off emotionally when I no longer felt they were worth the time and energy. I didn't get angry so much as I simply no longer cared about them. If something good happened , good for them, I guess, if something bad happened, sucks for them. Their emotional value was stripped from them. I heard on a tv show someone say "I don't hate you, I nothing you" and that pretty much sums it up.

Hated school. Referred to it as "day prison." Would do literally nothing all semester and then get a packet from my teachers and bet them I could finish all of it in a week with at least 90% accuracy for a C in the class or they could fail me outright and give me a flat 0. I had a solid C average and only ever got one 0, and that was in a class I didn't need anyway.

I respected authority because I came from a police / military / religious family who was solid in their beliefs and I knew how hard authority figures worked, and what kind of sacrifices they make.

On the other hand, if I didn't intend on doing something, come hell or high water it wasn't going to happen. You couldn't make me say I would, and I would only do as I said I would.

I had a count down to the minute how long until I turned 18 and could legally leave and never look back, which I did, and my mother and I haven't spoken in years. I have no intention of contacting her or going to her funeral when that happens.

My mother once threw everything I owned away except for my bed. And when I got home I said "do you know what this means?" *she gives me a cocky expression* "from this point on you are no longer my 'mom' you don't deserve terms of endearment. We will never be friends, in just over 400 days I will walk out that door and you will never see hide nor hair of me again. Until that day, we are at war."

And I meant it and followed through.

Dressed all in black and when my mother threw out my clothes and bought me colorful crap I put them in the bathtub to soak in rit dye and soaked them in it for days. Stained the tub blackish, but it was an act of war. If she didn't want to play, she should've left me and my wardrobe alone.

Once when we had ants (after the declaration of war) she told me to kill them, and left to go to work. I was on my way out the door to go 2000 miles away to visit relatives. I knew we had an inspection the next day. I grabbed my spray glue and killed the ants. When she got home there was a line of ants up the wall, over the refrigerator, across the counter, across the stove, across two more counters, the sink and the dish washer. They were dead... and really shiny. I made sure to keep the glue thin so it would be a bear to get off and she'd have to scrape instead of peel. When I got off the plane I had the most lovely voicemails waiting for me. She told me to kill the ants, she didn't say what she wanted done with them postmortem. I did as I was told, no more, no less.

Long story short, I was a nightmare, and deliberately so. She should've listened when I said "all you have to do is be civil to me and we'll get along fine. I treat people how they treat me."

[summer16]

a bundle of contradictions:

insecure, arrogant, quiet, withdrawn, yet offered an opinion in some classes, creative, sarcastic, punctual, challenged authority, stubborn, a little anti-social and constantly plagued by emotional/mental issues.

[WindWild]

Well let's see.. I'm a bit past that age, currently 22, but let's say the memory is still fresh. ;)
Another reservation is that I do believe the behaviour depends also on the social situation and current emotional state.
On my end, I could say I was pretty emotionally unstable when a teen (gee, who isn't). Rational thinking in a female doesn't help you feeling like you belong. I could say I was in the same time shy and arrogant - I wanted to belong to the people I liked, most I considered to be a step below due to lack of rationality or whatever - they didn't seem to match my "mental maturity".
The more constant traits..
- constantly thinking about the world, people, meaning, myself (self-reflection and perfection).
- like to work in a group, don't mind not being the leader, but if theres noone better to lead I'd be glad to. Also, of course, the group has to get along - who likes people getting in their way to finishing something decently?
- very awkward with guys. Every time I liked someone there was an utter innability to show it and if I eventually managed was turned down. (no, I'm not so fugly ;)
- very loyal to friends. I always try to help or comfort but people rarely accept the logical kind of help. (ex.: "my granny's dying", "well, spend the most quality time with her before she does".)
- appearance wise it's not like I didn't care, but makeup is something I never used or thought is neccessary - the "natural beauty" kind.
- I think I never said "sorry" or "thank you" until 10th grade. Or so I'm told. (doesn't mean I'm ungrateful)
- criticise more than prize (for me that's more helpful, well, people often disagree. xD)
- love to look tough, despite the slim figure (soft metal clothes, carrying weapons (yes, it's not so illegal here))
- don't like stepping down on males. I still don't. Heck, I can do most things better than them.
And so on and so on.

[Elvietim]

I'm pretty much the same since my teenage years, refined with experience and age, of course. Introverted but can be outgoing when the need arises, multi-skilled, multi-talented, introspective, musically inclined, intelligent, love to learn (not necessarily restricted to academia), love to read (which made me more eloquent than most people I know), quick learner, loner, never got in trouble or hang out with the wrong crowd, never inclined to be part of a crowd, value myself as a unique individual. My elder sister was very outgoing and popular, and while I respected her, never wanted to be like her. So whatever she did, I would do the opposite. She's very athletically talented, I was very academically talented; she excels in outdoor activities, I shine in indoor activities.

With my family, I'm known for being moody, stubborn, obedient, and always have a scowl on my face. I was called "the professor" in my family because of my academic achievements, my know-it-all attitude, my love for classical music (I felt that I was too good for any other music type) and my nerdy glasses (and so very proud to look like one too).

As a teenager, I changed high schools four times so I never had the chance to establish a close friendship with anyone, but it didn't bother me too much because I have myself to talk to and that I felt no one understood me better than I did. I was very self-assured and knew what I wanted. I never had insecurity issues, even after my dad's sudden passing when I was 15. I felt his passing was a blessing in disguise, because it forced my mom to allow us the independence which I awesomely thrive in. I was then able to choose the school I wanted to enter in (an elite boarding school where I could go on scholarship) and take the subjects I wanted (any class that doesn't require me to memorize info -- history urgh -- and instead use my logic... so I only took number subjects like math and accounting so that I can score as many As in my GCE or SAT, whichever you want to call it... ).

I was (still am), however, a closet rebel. One time I phoned my mom for her written permission to my school so that I could go out to church during the weekend (for the sake of my peace of mind more than anything), my mom refused to give it because it was too much of a hassle for her. I went mental on her and hung up. Some moments later, my uncle called to tell me that I made my mom cry. I told him to tell her to forget about it and that it was OK if she was too lazy to give one (damn, I was heartless). Around that time, I met a friend who listened to grunge (which was new at the time - Nirvana) and heavy metal (I adore Metallica), and I was hooked (short of looking like one).

I wore a mask with strangers, always smiling and being friendly. Once they get to know me, they realize how persistent and serious I can be. When I'm focused on something, that's when I look the most scary, or so they say. I do my best to put a sock in my mouth, and those who stick by me appreciate my honesty and loyalty. I've had several friends during my teenage years who told me how brave I was to speak out against people when they've been teased, and I remember not a single event of that ever happening.

My weakness was my naiveness when it came to boys (I LOLed when I read in Keirsey's web site on the part about INTJs being intrigued yet disgusted with the opposite sex... that was so me). The guys told me that they're intrigued by me, which I find amusing and ridiculous, and those who said I was pretty, I would roll my eyes at them before I went lickety split. Never had a need for a boyfriend, and told myself that I'll just get one when I graduate from college and start working (almost happened... met my better half during my last year of college). I was SO naive that I was tricked TWICE into going on a date. I never felt SO STUPID IN MY LIFE!! The last real date I went to, I ended up married to him (yes, it was the same guy I met in college).

End.

[MortalWombat]

From what I have seen in my experience they seem...hm, kind of like that character Bella in Twilight. Really smart, not materialistic, shy, quiet and focused.

Oh god, no. No, no, no. That character seemed to lack a brain. It's hard to be a thinker when you don't have one of those. I watched the movies with my ENFP friend (Who completely adores the series), and I really didn't see many similarities. She's very irrational in the things she does, which doesn't seem to fit most young female INTJs. Very emotional, very confused, and very dependent. From my own experiences and from observing those of fellow INTJ women, it doesn't fit our traits very well. As a whole, young INTJ women are indeed 'quiet', but I don't see many of them being overwhelmingly emotional and impulsive.

[beverly penn]

I dressed like I was in a motorcycle gang, played a lot of music, did very well in school. I never skipped classes, and was pretty sociable in them. Friends here and there, but not many, by any means. For the most part, girls my age were too emotional, too open, and I never felt comfortable with them. My friends were always boys my age, but the friendships came and went due to romantic problems.

My work was always my main concern. I really liked math, science, and creative endeavors like writing short stories, playing multiple instruments, sketching. I was very self-disciplined, and completely uninterested in drugs. I found a good group of people to grow up with, I guess, but it wasn't easy, and I wouldn't dare say I enjoyed it. I recognize how much I learned during those years, but I would never, ever choose to relive them.

[Topazxx]

I've always been a INTJ teen since I first did the test when I was thirteen.

I wouldnt consider myself a rule breaker or a rebel and I'm well liked by teachers. I don't go out of the way to challenge authority or rules, but I will challenge anything and anyone if they don't make sense or have a flaw - even if that person is my superior. I'm well known for being very argumentative and I go into 'debate mode' if a ever get into a serious debate where all I care about is proving my side and coming to a conclusion. Even if it means reducing my opponent to tears.

I've always had a wide circle of friends and I talk to a lot of people at school. I don't have any close friends though who I really trust and I don't like socialising very much unless I have to. I'm not quiet and I love books and knowledge. I have high standards and always try to improve myself. I'm not happy unless I get all A*s and even then I need to get full marks.

I tend to argue with my mum though. I am very independent and hate it when I think someone considers me their inferior. I get really defensive and my blood boils. I don't explode when I get really angry - I compress it and becomes really malicious and hate-filled until I can cut the other person down with a few well aimed comments and a smile. I'm quite prideful but not to the point of idiocy.

It was pointed out to me by a friend that they can never argue with me as I make them feel stupid. I also am very critical of others work as I know I would like my work to be criticised. This isn't always appreciated.

[Bandada]

Cons in beeing an INTJ female teenager
-Bad social skills (eg communicating, taking contact or anything that has other people included)
-Problems with concentration
-No ability of showing feelings, and the "stess reactions" caused by that
-Problems with expressing yourself verbally
-Team work is hard

Pros
-No need to work hard to get good grades
-You understand how things work, when it comes to science and maths
-Ability to argue and analyze
-You don't give a crap what others think of you
-Working alone is easy
-You're never bored because of the inner world
-Ability to think outside the box (or even far away from the box!)

Other features:
-Sarcastic
-No empathy
-Has always an opinion
-Smarter than other girls
-High standards to other people
-Rather thr own company than the bad company

[coffeeforme]

Social life: I was moody and distant - even my close group of 'friends' were not truly my friends... more like acquaintances. I knew a lot of people, but I never really talked to them. It's more like they wanted to talk to me, and only because they wanted my homework answers or something like that. Like another person said, I never really got close to other girls because they're too 'out there' with their emotions. I didn't know how to handle them! As far as guys go, I've only had one boyfriend (I was a freshman and he was a senior; we've been together for 6 years now). I had a lot of guys try to talk to me and date me because I was pretty, but I was not having any of that bs! I thought I knew all about guys my age!

School: school was basically my home away from home. Don't get me wrong, I disliked most of the people there, but I loved to learn. I was really close with all of my teachers. I always took pre-ap, ap, or 'advanced' classes. 'Advanced' classes were really not advanced, but it was the school's way of keeping the smart kids out of the regular (aka dumb) classes. One semester I was forced to take a regular history class... let me just say, it was the worst experience in my life. I have never seen a group of people so careless and unwilling to learn. Ugh. And - get this - the kid next to me even had a drug overdose during class (Mind you my school was pretty bad). I thought about helping him while the teacher went to get help... but I didn't. I was a drug user at the time too, and all I thought was "if he can't handle it, then why should I help him? If I can do it, he should be able to too" (I know better now though). Never again would I take a 'regular' class!

Activities: Orchestra, drugs, school work, alcohol, year-round swimming - I had a weird mix of activities. My motto was, "As long as I do good in school, I can do whatever the hell I want." I think this might apply to a lot of INTJs. But yeah, my boyfriend was the one who introduced me to drugs, and I was all for it. And despite all the bs everyone said about me doing drugs, I still got an SAT score higher than the valedictorian and I graduated #11 in my class. AND NOW I see all of my classmates doing the same thing in community college that I was doing in high school... but they fail miserably at trying to juggle academics and having fun, and it makes me laugh.

Ugh. I generally disliked my teenage years.

[volt]

Ages 13-16, I attempted to be social, fit in with other people. In return, that sacrificed my individuality and by the time I was 17, I began to transform back into how I was when I was in elementary school. A loner, intellectual, reader, gamer, opinionated, puzzle solver, and began to place high value on integrity.

I'm around my parents often, and my dog. I barely speak to anyone at school, maybe say 600 words a day. Since I was never challenged in my high school, my grades are awful in my opinion. My high school does a grading scale of 0-100, I have around a 95 GPA at the moment for my senior year, but because my freshman through junior year grades lacked, I'm maybe ranked 30/75.

I've recently found peace in meditation and running. I'm deeply disappointed in society as a whole, and feel as if I just don't fit in this world. Oh, and I'm pretty stubborn.

My peers view me as quiet, intelligent, disgusting and one jock seems to make jokes about me being prom/homecoming queen often.

[Uytuun]

My teenage years were very...stable, emotionally levelled. I feel like I was barely present in the world (and reacted badly to intrusions - I wasn't a great fan of the external world back then, I loved being home and being in my head, didn't react well to new situations). Especially early teens. I went to school, got back home and hopped on the computer to play RPGs...then went back to school. My mother says I was very theoretical and introverted. I wasn't very socially skilled. Probably quietly arrogant. Intimidating. Assertive. Unaware of social conventions. Came across as confident. Not liked (despised by some I figured out later - I didn't even know them that well), but barely aware of it, really.

I somehow gathered a group of friends throughout my time in highschool - I'm still friends with a lot of them, though I honestly don't think I was a very pleasant person to be around in my teens. In the second year I figured out I had to alter my behaviour if I didn't want to spend the remaining years as a social outcast (which wasn't something I enjoyed apparently), so I pulled myself out of my comfort zone. I enjoyed school and did well, but had no intrinsic respect for authority. I could be rather blunt and although I didn't seek to personally I could easily be seduced by the TP "bad boys" into rebelling a little. I liked the thrill. Increasingly developed a weird kind of spontaneity. Unpredictable sometimes. Still, my parents had no trouble with me. I was extremely private. And kinda robotic really.

Became increasingly extraverted (or perhaps it would be more accurate to say "less shy") and more interested in exploration as I grew into myself as an older teen. High school definitely was a socialisation arena for me. And I was extremely rational at the time - my intuitive, dreamy side was overshadowed by Te I think. Then I kind of fell in love (unrequited - then requited, but I was with someone else) and the stability thing has been going downhill since.

[mcantrim]

Lets see...quiet, studious, good listener, achievement-oriented for starters. Others saw me as "sweet" and a "good listener." People could not understand that to me my straight A's were very much secondary to the joy I felt in learning new things. I used to look down on my mother and sister for reading romance novels - which I referred to as "barf books." At age 13 I was on my second reading of War and Peace. I always felt like I was on the "outside" and have been surprised to learn that there were a number of guys who would have liked to date me in high school, but they saw me as unapproachable and did not try. Needles to say, I did not pick up on any cues they threw at me... When I started college at age 17, I did not react to the frat parties and social whirl. Instead I experienced some outrage that in high school my time had been "wasted" in a mediocre school system and I reveled in realizing how much I could learn and how fun it was to exchange ideas with other people who had inquiring minds. Along the line, I began to realize that if I wanted to reach some of my goals, I had to learn to become more social - so I made a study of it. I learned to play the game to get what I wanted - and then I would retreat back into my head for a much needed rest.

[stopwinking]

" i was rude, bunked of school, frustrated, under achieved, day dreamy and very very hard to engage with. i had very little connections, if not none at all. these are the things, i believe people seen of me, if they at all noticed me.

i however liked to sing in my room. i like to play my keyboard and make songs up. i loved to read myself to sleep. i loved dancing and i loved to draw. i would do all these things without another soul on the planet knowing or taking any interest in the fact i done these things. i loved dreaming and at one stage believed it to be better than being awake. i constantly felt constricted by circumstances. i felt trapped by other peoples expectations. i never felt in charge of my life." what totallybarmy said...
Personally, I will always be trying to master my mind and the social world I must inhabit, but I do feel more and more comfortable in my skin as I get older.
I also have found that most of the times I thought my peers were being obnoxious teens, they were trying to get my attention to befriend me ( small comfort, having the answer to the baffling interactions' quixotics). The boys I thought were being overly solicitious and nosey who I would quickly walk away from as their posse shouted 'hey where are you going?' weren't um necessarily bullying me either *heh* of course, I am still a loner and so for my personal interior world it's still an overwhelming psychic/emotional invasion,no matter how I'm supposed to be 'taking it' sociologically.

[mastelsa]

I had a close group of three other people, two of which are INTJ as well, so I wasn't completely alone. We pretty much hung out together and recommended good books for each other and talked about how stupid the general high school population is. I never participated in gossip or really cared about things like that, and I made friends with my teachers more easily than my peers. I despised (and still do) group projects, though once I got into mostly A.P. classes I realized that there were some people capable of doing a group project to my standards. I wasn't very emotional at all--other than normalcy or contentedness I only really get frustrated, and that usually dissipates quickly. Though I did have a single crush on a person through my teenage years. That was before I realized that me chasing after boys is akin to a dog chasing cars in that I wouldn't know what to do with one once I caught one. I excelled in school and embraced my know-it-all reputation.

[Japonica]

Sexless, bored, mildly insane and cynical.

Sources:
19 year-old female.

[Phenom]

I think sexless may be a cause of the later three :p

[masterpeach]

As a kid (before adolescence with all its uncontrollable hormones kicked in), I was probably INFJ (think of Hermine Granger of Harry Potter). My ENTJ dad made me a fighter.

I never wore skirts, listened to black metal, wore shabby black clothes (exceptionless), dreamt of being a vampire, read tons of books, had a few friends with whom I'd discuss philosophy, religion and the sense of life. I procrastinated a lot (I am more of an INTP than INTJ), but I never did drugs (no smoking, no alcohol). I tried to be in control and never revealed my true feelings.

My ESFP class-mates openly hated and bullied me because teachers loved me - I always had answers to questions nobody else dared to answer, occasionally I corrected teachers/pointed out mistakes they had made. (I used to be best in school until age 9.) I had a crush on some guys but never told them - it wouldn't have been reciprocated anyway.

[too late]

- rude/very honest to teachers in high school, one of them hated my guts and I hated hers right back
- frequently in the library/computer lab
- had a small group of friends, sat in the back of the classroom cracking jokes with them usually about the teachers or the snobby kids we hated
- never popular but also never the outcast or loser everyone made fun of, didn't fit under any label/stereotype, I was just there
- clothing wise, nothing stand out-ish, but usually dark colors and simple-looking comfortable clothes
- sarcastic and a 'dark aura'
- bad grades in a couple of classes due to not caring/trying/being interested
- read a lot of books for fun outside of school, but never the ones we were supposed/assigned to read

[Rsquared]

I'm 18...while skimming a letter from a teacher I got very close with this year, he focuses on my dark sense of humor, my wittiness, and even my "Metacognition". He nailed it on the head with that one.

I'd say off the top of my head I perceive myself as
-Cynical
-Comfortable
-Self Motivated
-Anxious

I'm always anticipating and focusing on the next big thing. Currently, that will be college in the fall and my boyfriend leaving for England, for 3 years. We won't be doing long distance, but I feel like despite not thinking it's possible, I'm about to become even colder and more cynical than I am now.

[k2sk8k2]

Wow females and there identity crises. just chill and be who you are If your intj dont be so controversial about stuff. especially your personality you are who you are deal with it lucky enough your more refined and less loud introverts are peaceful and quiet if left alone and thats how it should be

[jnoelle]

I have emotional regulation problems, and GAD, so most of my issues are unrelated to my INTJ-ness, I think. I don't have too many friends and I do wear a lot of black/grey. I have bushy/curly hair and wear thick glasses. I'm trying to stop taking low doses of narcotics to cope with my anxiety. At school, I spend a lot of time in the art room trying to perfect my often times stupidly detailed paintings. I get good grades, but put forth almost no effort because I find most of my classes too boring. If I can have a GPA that's around 3.7 and still have spare time to fence/get sushi/blog/debate online, I'm going to do that. I've gotten some teachers put on probation due to them being absolutely awful, and the school administration hasn't been all that fond of me for that (I transferred out of that school due to the disgusting amount of corruption going on). It's also a Catholic school, and I've been at least agnostic since 7th grade (but not openly so). I'm not really all that connected to my family and plan on leaving them when I go off to grad school. Ideally, I'll change my name, study abroad, and come back unnoticed by everyone who currently knows me. I spend a lot of my free time online, either reading random articles/journals or blogging. I had a crush on a girl once, but it was kind of complicated. I speak kind of erratically and talk with my hands, and I have very prominent, boxy eyebrows, so my facial expressions are actually kind of hilarious. I definitely overcompensate for my lack of emotional intelligence with my expressions and gestures.
I currently have my life planned out up until I'm around 40ish. I've always needed to have some definite plan for my life/career. I've never been the kind to question what I'll be doing. I'll go straight from one career choice to another, without any sort of real undecided period. Even now, when I'm questioning what college at which I'll study, I have one picked out in my mind for now.
I doubt I'll change much over the next few years. I haven't really changed since I was around 8 years old, other than music tastes, and obviously how I look. It's actually kind of alarming to see the weird parallels between me at 8 and me at my current age of 18.

[qpalzm]

I am an INTJ female. When I was in high school, my friends and school mates tease me as always having a poker face. There was one time when I got surprised and they laughed because I was surprised, but my expression didn't change. I don't really know how that happened. I think i wasn't rude because there was never any reason for me to be rude. I had, almost, never gotten angry in school. When I am annoyed, I usually ignore it so the anger goes away immediately, though I am rude "in my mind". I keep my insults to other people to myself, because I didn't want to get into any unnecessary fights or whatever. I have been interested in crimes, especially swindling, con men, covert agents and operations and psychology. I usually keep quiet, because I don't know anyone interested in these, but I become talkative whenever these are the topics of discussion. I also have my own opinion about my religion, but don't discuss it with anybody (i don't think anyone's concerned, anyway). Contrary to the other INTJs who say they excelled in school, I know I didn't excel in high school (or that I just have high standards in academics), but people always say that I'm smart and they come to me to ask questions about home works and quizzes, and I was able to get in one of the top universities in my country.

I had very few friends, because I didn't know how to "effectively" mingle. My family members tell me that I'm always sad and depressed (I hate it when they say that, because I just always have a poker face even though I'm not sad). Anyway, I didn't like small talk, because I didn't know how to respond to it, and I, sometimes, envy friendly people, because they always look happy and surrounded by happy people.

I didn't trust anything easily. For example: People buy a product, because the tv, radio, or newspaper advertisement convinced them that the product looked good, and efficient. I think those people are gullible. No one should buy a product just because its advertisement is beautiful. No tv, radio, or newspaper advertisement proves the efficiency of a product. Those types only prove that the person/people who made the advertisement is/are good in advertising, and that there are people who thinks the advertisement is beautiful. Product efficiency will only be proved, when it has been used, and worked the way the customer wanted it to work.

The example is weird, but I hope you get my point.

[JonLum]

It's surprising to me to see INTJs being characterized that way. From what I've read, our personality type is generally very successful and school/career is supposed to come easy for us. Makes me feel better in a way though cuz I had a lot of those problems in HS and through out life and am not particularly successful in school/work.

[rachellem2]

I just read through the "Can you describe the INTJ teenage male?" thread and I was surprised by how most of them described themselves. Now I not so sure I am a INTJ. What differences can you see between the INTJ teenage male and female?

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

To other females do these things describe you as a teen also or might I be a different "type"?
You just described me. I'm also perceived as a "genius in disguise". I think that it's because I'm hypoglycemic and I would become really confused and/or spacey when my blood sugar is low.
I'm not rebellious. I don't really like people but now I'm trying to get over that. I can also be shy sometimes but once you get to know me I'm a totally different person. I usually get along really well with people older or younger than me. I'm bad at explaining and expressing myself. I'm also not very academically competitive, because I go to a small all-girls' school where everyone in my class is a competitive perfectionist, which I hate. In school, I hate asking for help. If a class interests me, I will totally nail it but if not, I have like no motivation to do well in it.

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I keep my insults to other people to myself, because I didn't want to get into any unnecessary fights or whatever. I have been interested in crimes, especially swindling, con men, covert agents and operations and psychology. I usually keep quiet, because I don't know anyone interested in these, but I become talkative whenever these are the topics of discussion. I also have my own opinion about my religion, but don't discuss it with anybody (i don't think anyone's concerned, anyway). Contrary to the other INTJs who say they excelled in school, I know I didn't excel in high school (or that I just have high standards in academics), but people always say that I'm smart and they come to me to ask questions about home works and quizzes, and I was able to get in one of the top universities in my country.

I hate confrontation- I'm pretty passive aggressive so I'll either mentally insult them or tweet about it. I'm also getting mediocore grades, and I'm a senior but people still tell me that I'm smart.

[Marcus Septim]

Fat,driven,unkept,out of sight,first student,aiming for med school
Rude and mean

[lazyliberal]

I am a male INTJ teacher. From my observations INTJ female students tend to
* Get on better with teachers than peers
* Be good students, unless there is a personality clash with the teacher in which case it can go very negative (to the confusion of other teachers who get on with the student very well)
* Get on better with older or younger peers than those of their same age
* Tend to have a much more adult sense of humour (or maybe that is just that they are more likely to conenct with my, INTJ, sense of humour!)
* Be very good in discussions, especially in smaller groups, but not so good socially (all because of the I)
* Not be in relationships (as much as because they don't fancy the options availble as because of the reverse!)
* Find themselves more of a niche as they move up the school and discover how to use their strengths to their advantage (this is the UK so half of the student body, mostly the less able, leaves at age 16, which probably helps)

[Chelsea]

During high school as a female INTJ, I was a tomboy. I didn't understand female classmates, the social constructs of high school or really care to have a 'high school experience'. Most of my small group of friends were males, we are still all friends to this day. I wasn't popular, but I wasn't bullied. I was just 'there'...as previous posters have said. I didn't 'party' or anything, although my friends did. Most of them smoked pot, I never had the interest to.

Academically, I did not do well because I was bored. I was in all honors classes, but my grades were subpar because I did not apply myself. I would just space out during class and be inside my own world. My teachers kept me in honors classes and encouraged me to do AP classes because they saw the potential, although my grades spoke differently. As a senior, I only went to high school half day than took college courses in the afternoon, this gave me the challenge I craved and I did very well in the college classes...but graduated high school with a 2.3 GPA. >.<

Basically, every INTJ teenage female is different. While INTJs are fairly intelligent, we may not all do well in a typical academic setting. School was restricting and boring for me. My teachers haggled me about my academic performance and encouraged me to apply myself, but I couldn't bring myself to care. Now, in college, I'm studying a field I love and maintain a 3.9 GPA. I'm alright with that.

[CanrHoldLimes]

-Single
-Quiet
-Extremely Independent/Does not tend to travel in groups
-Avoids drama and confrontation
-However, will tell you off or defend herself if you rub her the wrong way
-Not Intimidated by "popular kids"
-Occupied with herself
-Doesn't notice or interact with you unless she has to
-Probably won't remember you unless you've interacted with her in some meaningful way
-Underachieves on things that aren't relevant, overachieves on things that are
-Polite within reason
-Assertive when deemed necessary

[jetplane48]

As a guy who hung out with a different array of people during my childhood, I can gladly say that I've had maybe one INTJ ladyfriend. As far as I could tell, she was as extroverted as me, so she probably came off as ESFP, but you could definitely tell she had the INTJ-thing goin on. She had some inconceivable aura about her figure that made her radiate an aspect of friendly entrapment.

I would've dated her.

[Secret Owl]

I can describe the female, teenaged INTJ based on a sample of 2 individuals with whom I've been well acquainted (Both had a 4.0GPA):

Plugged into headphones, turning the slovenly masses and assorted social chaos into an IFC montage through via a self-imposed soundtrack trance/goth/industrial tracks. Sardonic expressions. Sometimes deliberately inflammatory to baffle the rest of the world. Reading up on philosophy and sociopolitical arguments. Spending most of her time in the school library. Possibly a member of the debate team. Probably terribly arrogant in appearance, possibly moreso to compensate for social insecurities. Depending on home environment and other factors relating to self-confidence, she may be very successful in an academic environment, self-assured and ahead of her time in terms of maturity and groundedness.

However, with a rougher upbringing, she may have serious doubts about her own femininity, become beset with sexual insecurity and feel a need to overcompensate as an 'uberfemme' - perhaps naively believing it is a reaction to puritanical social norms - and could be relatively unstable if the dialogue with adults in her life is unstable/dishonest so her rational, inquisitive mind gets no satisfactory, straightforward answers. The BS detector goes off, maybe.

She may foresake romantic interactions altogether as frivolity, or be drawn to romantic interactions as a form of social/experiential experimentation. The latter, if not handled optimally, could be an emotional trainwreck. Better if she's the Athenian former.

In either case, her trouble may stem from a sense of overactive rationalism that doesn't always apply to human interaction the way one might expect it to, in a vacuum - manifesting as a strange, cloaked idealism - because people, especially under the duress of hormone rage, aren't reasonable and don't behave as one would rationally expect them to.

Hope this helps.

[Arrow]

I have a semi-close friend who is a INTJ female. She's 17 I think.
I can't even decide on a major and she's got the vast majority of her future planned out years in advance. She's in her second year of community college and she's already worrying about the LSAT.
And she's EXTREMELY ambitious. She wants to triple major in political science, psychology and computer engineering before she goes to law school. I like being around her for particularly this reason. Chatting with her makes me feel productive.

She also stays relatively fit and makes an effort to eat right, as opposed to my non-existent schedule of exercising whenever it crosses my mind and happens to be convenient.
She usually brings a chessboard in her backpack and pesters me to play.

[ModernLit]

daria? that's pretty much what i was like. and um, still am. haha.

[Operetta]

I am an INTJ female.

How would I describe my teenage years? Well, I was bored as hell. I was studious, got straight A's (because I had to prove myself the best and I was scared my Dad would kill me if I didn't), and rather reserved. People tended to not like me because I would dive into any sort of debate the stirred in class, and that was typically the only time I would get involved in things. Looking back, I suppose that's why people always found me intimidating - I was the argumentative one. I tended to be devil's advocate and would take any position because I found it amusing that others could not defend their stance. Other teens never understood my sense of humor either as I could be very morbidly sarcastic.

I have always had problems with authority, but I only clashed with teachers who showed favorites or could not be bothered to teach. Otherwise I liked most of my teachers (I have fond memories of philosophical debates with a few).

I have had my future planned since I was three (largely due to my INTJ dad), and have always been very goal-driven. It always frustrated and irritated me that others in class could not be bothered to be punctual or try hard. It frustrated me to no end when teachers would recognize the minimal achievements of those who had never tried, but never recognized the continuous achievements of those who did.

I was totally clueless in the dating schemes (still am!), and that also confused me. I didn't understand why guys seemed interested in the stupid, flirty girls around school, and I could never get my head around how to flirt (much to my mother's dismay).

So after a long rambling description, I would assume most INTJs are reserved, ambitious when they choose to be, sarcastic, eager to debate, and stupidly awkward with dating.

[koakuma]

I am a male INTJ teacher. From my observations INTJ female students tend to
* Get on better with teachers than peers
* Be good students, unless there is a personality clash with the teacher in which case it can go very negative (to the confusion of other teachers who get on with the student very well)
* Get on better with older or younger peers than those of their same age
* Tend to have a much more adult sense of humour (or maybe that is just that they are more likely to conenct with my, INTJ, sense of humour!)
* Be very good in discussions, especially in smaller groups, but not so good socially (all because of the I)
* Not be in relationships (as much as because they don't fancy the options availble as because of the reverse!)
* Find themselves more of a niche as they move up the school and discover how to use their strengths to their advantage (this is the UK so half of the student body, mostly the less able, leaves at age 16, which probably helps)

Were you my teacher?

Just kidding. But this list is pretty spot on. I identify with quite some explanations in this thread.


My school years:


Like :huh: and :idea: at the same time.
Loner, but the person people came to talk with if they wanted perspective on something, or a straight/reasonable answer.
I refused to become part of any "groups". I was my own group, and sometimes the person speaking between groups (geez, people! grow up!).
Was slightly bullied at early age, but as time flew by, I was appreciated by quite some people for not creating bullshit drama.
Problem solver - yet again, there was some bullshit drama. I thought the drama was a waste of time, so I told the teachers or counsellors exactly what happened, and then we moved on. I'm happy they believed me.
Hated group projects (since people were not productive/efficient enough), but didn't want to be all alone either. Some people didn't seem to appreciate that I wanted to do my own thing, and still be able to talk to them. Ahmagahd! I kind of learned to use other people's skills later on (kind of = I'm not a master in it and still prefer to work alone to a certain extent).
Liked: Arts, music (apart from singing), mathematics, math tests, physics, economics, sewing class, wood-work, psychology, etc. Anything related to creating, math or psychology (how things work) were weehoo!
Disliked: Politics, society class, history (war, war, war, then Sweden had Finland for a while and a Swedish king died of pea soup), what-is-popular-quizzes (like daily news quiz.. fuck I care?). Anything related to social "musts" bored me.
Blunt, honest, ideas, creative, secretive, shy, organised, socially behind, curious.


I was pissed angry (like a thunder storm) every day after I came home from school, spending the next 15 minutes ranting about everything I thought didn't make sense. Fi-bomb. Thank goodness for parents that either listened (ENFJ) or agreed (ISTJ) to what I said. I'm happy for the NF/STJ combo I grew up with. I needed the softer NF explanations/perspectives sometimes, and the STJ reason-ability sometimes.

[Ferbguy101]

Im probably more extroverted than I think, Impulisive, sarcastic,intuitive, quick to judge, neurotic, careless, lazy, analytical, envious, skeptical, cynical, arrogant, creative, whiney, cowardly. I also went through the whole teen angst stage too, I think I retain alot of these qualities and I definatly was not a straw "NT" I had alot of negative traits and I was charismatic on some things, others I was probably as appealing as a 4 year old. I tended(and still sometimes do) to overestimate myself, and I think as I grew I realized just how ignorant I was. I think I also realized alot of these personaity systems are flawed and even though they can help people know themselves better they can also backfire and turn them into arrogent dicks. For me it was option #2 at first

[stopwinking]

Well, for one, she is rational.
v-If she is at all like in this below link, she may be mis-typed-v
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Unless maybe she's the mom or daughter in the above link's scenario.


I was typed as INTJ and various corealated tests' types in highschool and junior high and even when I was assessed for my elementary and pre-schools.
"Abstract brain,works best as a self-starter on projects,shines in group discussion" sort of things...I forget the specific labels and things said ...part of being an Se, perhaps...just try to believe : my various schools have known me as INTJ since 1985.

So:
I was a happy loner but had people trying to insinuate themselves into my Life in various ways which usually went unnoticed until someone would do something really random and obnoxious to try to see a reaction from myself: the 'stone faced' loner.
I would forget to bathe and change my clothes, i often fell asleep reading late into the night and so would have to rush to school the next day.
I would wander around outside whenever I got the chance and spent any free time walking around randomly just observing and letting my stream-of-consciousness flow.

I was most often called, and usually at least two of these by every teacher and my relatves:
overly serious
overly analytical
quietly confident
perfectionistic
as having 'lots of potential'
as being 'a great help in class discussions' and also in family discussions. I'd get thanked by my family for interjecting during arguments the same way I'd get thanked for doing the dishes without being asked or surprising Mom with breakfast in bed.


I interacted with my world by thinking a lot about how i would do the things I would observe- not to make them right or better them necessarily but just because my brain automatically did this and actually got a great deal of it's 'mental masturbation' from this tendency.
I did it so often that it was both what people appreciated and even sometimes relied on me for but also what annoyed them when I'd converse or interject on a subject and i'd unwittingly point out the faults in the way the situation was being handled.

This is what my 'Mommy' supports me in: where some people need hugs and birthday cards, i need her to let me rattle off long held-in 'plans' and analytics of things that are none of my business :D just to get them out of my head...like going in to the parent's bedroom at night to describe in detail the nightmare, to 'get it out ' and get back to some real sleep.

from at least the age of 7 I was with panic attacks and insomnia.
This was diagnosed as being due to excess abstract thoughts that were trying to organize themselves and unrealized or dealt with emotional and sociological detritus.

I was encouraged to physically exercise more, especially before bed, and to take up yoga/meditation and to write less, but read more. I'm not sure why...I think it had to do with letting abstract organizing happen as oppsed to cramping it up with too much of trying to force it to organize.
I was also told to be careful of B vitamins- to make sure i prioritized them.
I was encouraged to join debate team and theatrical clubs but, in school, cliques form early...it would have been too much work for too little reward, and far from merely logical,rational debate or purely creative artistry in that competitive sports town. I just helped out every so often with tickets and ballot counting.
I loved theatre and science and always belonged to at least one science or nature club each year until now, really. i just never go on Sierra Club outings >_>

I loved socializing via Science/Nature clubs because I love/d being outside and learning about what I experienced as I experienced it.

From an early age, about 6 until the age of 13 i was in theatre clubs.
I loved that in theatre, there were rules to the emotional interactions and that they were talked about and dissected afterwards and I loved the creative brainstorming of both Nature/Science and Theatre Clubs types of social interactions.
nature clubs:"Why do you all think that bird is making that sound now, when it usually sounds that other way we are used to?"
theatre clubs: "Why do you think the character reacted the way they did in this scene?"


Throughout my teen years but starting by age 8, I was 'the babysitter'.
I would be invited by completely unrelated parents to come to their child's birthday parties or to the adults' parties to 'play with' the children. By my teen years, I was given money but as a kid, I'd go to 'play with' kids who were younger than myself and be given gifts afterwards like: mugs of candy and gift certificates.

Adults would enlist me in helping them with chores a lot.

Do I 'read' as ISTJ enough, yet? ISTP?
Theatre club=INFJ or INFP,no : ISFP, right?
:p

[NanaEllis]

Generally Quiet
Kept to myself a lot
Went through high school under the radar
Disliked Math
Semi-Lazy
Not too much of a troublemaker, although I did skip class quite a bit.
Good grades (not great, but good).

[Ambra]

As a teenager....

I was interested in dance, debate, and would have very deep analytic conversations with people. I always felt detached from people, but I wasn't socially awkward. In groups I would be eager to participate, but once I saw that I had created a momentum in them, I would shut down and back away.

I seemed to have a high unexplained influence, and that made me uncomfortable. I'd rather go off by myself and be the weird loner.

I loved knowledge but hated the politics of the public school system. I didn't respect most of my teachers or the content, so I was a pretty bad student.

Extremely confident and almost fearless, I got myself into the most bizarre situations and considered myself an observer of human nature. I studied people with the determination I should have given to my classes. I had no regard for titles or authority figures. Just because someone was called something that sounded cooler, didn't mean I would listen to or follow them if what came out of their mouth was crap.

Laid back, unemotional, and unafraid, most of my friends were guys. I dated a fair amount, but never felt close to anyone until my first real boyfriend.

And, I was pretty offensive to a lot of people I didn't agree with.

One time I was sent to tardy sweep where they sent kids who were late to class to sit for the period and we had to write the school rules. This because I had been waiting in line to use the restroom during the passing period. I wrote:

Rule 1) If you don't want to go to class, we will ensure that you don't have to go to class by sending you to tardy sweep instead.

Rule 2) Etc....

Oh and I would get those talks from the instructors holding my essays in front of them, "I don't know how you can produce work like this....and be failing my class." On a few occasions, authority figures tried to befriend me to further their own interests, in which I always pissed them off by not bending to their will and they acted liked children toward me afterward.

[Nubz42]

I just read through the "Can you describe the INTJ teenage male?" thread and I was surprised by how most of them described themselves. Now I not so sure I am a INTJ. What differences can you see between the INTJ teenage male and female?

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school, and I also push my self to do things that make me uncomfortable(marching band, student council,etc)

To other females do these things describe you as a teen also or might I be a different "type"?

---------- Post added 12-10-2012 at 10:07 PM ----------

I know I am not violent, very rude or sarcastic, not late for class, don't do drugs, and don't usually confront authority at school.(some common things i saw in the other thread)

I do however like to read, don't like or know how to make small talk, walk fast even if Im not in a hurry, want to and like to excel at school

I am a tennage girl and I'm exactly the same way. The only difference is that i never push myself to do anything out of my comfort zone because i know exactly how im going to react when put into an uncomfortable situation.

Like lambpox, i tend to forget to feed myself when i have other things on my mind.

Also, i noticed that many INTJ's are pretty accepting when it comes to having a relationship with a girl, boy, transgendered person, etc. I am religious, but i seem to fall into that category too.

[stopwinking]

...I seemed to have a high unexplained influence, and that made me uncomfortable. I'd rather go off by myself and be the weird loner.

I loved knowledge but hated the politics of the public school system. I didn't respect most of my teachers or the content, so I was a pretty bad student.
....

Extremely confident and almost fearless, I got myself into the most bizarre situations and considered myself an observer of human nature. I studied people with the determination I should have given to my classes. I had no regard for titles or authority figures. Just because someone was called something that sounded cooler, didn't mean I would listen to or follow them if what came out of their mouth was crap.

...

Oh and I would get those talks from the instructors holding my essays in front of them, "I don't know how you can produce work like this....and be failing my class." On a few occasions, authority figures tried to befriend me to further their own interests, in which I always pissed them off by not bending to their will and they acted liked children toward me afterward.


All this, too, definitely.
People who want to be the center of attention never feel like they are enough so, they may not believe this feeling/experience of Life.
Many people may see this as social anxiety,shyness or teenaged 'wanting to blend in' taken to an extreme but,it really was just trying to be myself as fully as everyone else seemed able to be with as little drama involved as possible- hence, not understanding why I'd get unwanted 'recognition' and just disengaging as often as possible because I prefer to observe and even if i wanted to master being 'normal' or 'social' it's a waste of time!
Every human is natural and normal if they are just BEing and the socialization happens when like-minded people interact.

I was always sneaking away to hidden nooks and crannies just to get away from my "unexplained influence" within that "politics" atmosphere and was "an observer of human nature. I studied people with the determination I should have given to my classes." and definitely still do.
(maybe obviously, from some of my posts on forum)
This has more to do with contingency planning in an extroverted world.
It is not a love of social intrigue. It is more rational and detached- not an obsession/love of drama;not controlling or Machiavellian planning; not about studying how to alleviate a longing to 'fit in'.

I think a lot of angry extroverts profess this detached social personality but, they have actually taken what is not natural to themselves, made it into it's simplest caricatured interpretation of an outsider and are trying to fit into that perceived persona.
INTJ's, by definition, although human and of course having all human emotions, as a general rule, do not seek revenge on people or seek to manipulate in any way- simply because it is not
useful in the grander scheme.It is too little reward for too much effort.

[aparester]

I'm an INTJ female in my late teens.

I found school suffocating, until we were allowed to choose six subjects for which we'd sit exams. Specialization allowed me to become more focused, although I couldn't help but still get very frustrated/impatient with classmates who weren't doing so well. I had expectations that everybody was trying to strive for academic success... I learned very quickly that some students sat classes purely for the social aspect. That really confused me for a while.

I was a bit of a loner and really only had about two close friends; but I was at an all girls' school and on the outside, I had closer relationships with guys at my brother school. I had a strong interest in piano and swimming, avoiding the team aspect until I found one or two that I respected. I'm still very musical and intend to carry that further.

I refuted all romantic advances (and believe me, they flowed in- from guys at my weekly music rehearsals) and I'm still not interested. I've only ever had feelings for one INTP but even that faded quickly due to our own ambitions. I stayed away from the drinking and partying scene... much preferring to read up on the history of the Italian-American mafia families :3

I'm sarcastic and I'm succinct. I'm mostly alone, but mostly not lonely. Basically, I live in a quiet bubble of contentment with a plate of intellectual ambition and a spoonful of like-minded friends.

[Ciarbear]

I was (and still am) very bookish. Reading was very important to me and a huge part of my life. I was good in school, I paid attention and got top marks. I was even a Prefect. I was not part of the popular crowd but I had a healthy sized group of good friends. However, I was very into boys and going out on the town and generally letting my hair down. I had a very unhealthy attitude towards my appearance, I always felt huge even though now I realise I looked almost emaciated. I turned towards anorexia and bulimia in my darker moments. I was diagnosed with moderate depression at the age of 15, and I have to say after I got the help I needed I turned a corner in life. Overall, I would say my teenage years were a nightmare of hormones made bearable by good friends.

[Neuronica]

I am still a teenager, so I'll just describe myself briefly:

I could be looked at as a loner, as I have few friends, and I rarely get together with any of them, mostly because I usually find it slightly tiring to be with other people. I only care to be friends with those I am on wavelength with, and they are very rare. I do, however, feel a sense of accomplishment when I have been in social situations that went well, and I won't be mean or cold to new people. I just rarely take initiative to talk to them. I think I'm perceived as 'a bit too serious' and not much fun, probably because my sense of humor is centered around witty and intelligent 'jokes' and images/thoughts that pop up in my own mind.
In school, I excel in the sciences (physics and chemistry), but I also get good grades in the languages, probably because grammar mistakes annoy me. My classmates, teachers and family frequently describe me as intelligent, a hard worker (although I don't work as much as they probably think), kind/cute (I only show my temperament and strong emotions to people very close to me), stubborn and principled. The only time I "rebelled" against my parents was when I fought for a romantic relationship they didn't approve of. It wasn't an attempt to rebel, I simply stood up for what I thought was right. I don't see the need for rebellions just to be a rebel.
I am very organized (I'd probably write lists about lists if I didn't think it was too silly) and am a perfectionist. I also need a clean environment and enough personal space in order to be happy.
Even though I love science and maths, I can also spend some time writing poetry or drawing while listening to music. I like singing and dancing to get away from thoughts once in a while, but rarely do this in front of others.

[wen]

(want to apologse for the crappy spellng: the key on my keyboard for the letter whch s between H and J n the alphabet s currently not workng. Sorry. know ths must annoy a lot of NTJs out there, certanly know t bugs the hell out of me)

On topc:

thnk relate to a lot of the posts here. When was an adolescent was very much a typcal NTJ, consdered haughty, arrogant etc.

At the same tme was seen as a teacher's pet, whch should be more SJ-sh shouldn't t? Deferrng to authorty based on rank and whatnot? thnk 've had respect for authorty fgures mostly not smply because they outrank me but because my frst assumpton s that they have that rank over me because they know more than do. Then f found out they're complete tools usually lose that respect for them. never seen any pont of makng a fuss over t though, by actng out and dsregardng them outrght. ('m stll lke that.)

That was as an adolscent, tho. As a teenager was more wllng to conform to socety's way of percevng women. was certanly more ESFP-sh back then. wasn't cool to care about school, for example, or plan ahead. lke someone sad n the begnnng of the thread, put on an ESFP-mask.

stll do that sometmes today, mostly to avod unnecessary conflcts. 'm fence straddlng extroverson/ntroverson and sensng/ntuton, and have developed my ntroverted feelng fucton, so t's not that hard to fake.



(Ok, sooo sorry about ths horrd text. Kudos to you f you manage to read the whole thng whthout havng an aneurysm. really, really, really need to get my keyboard fxed... the worst part s probably that the letter seem to be so ruddy common n the englsh language. For heaven's sake, there's a whole personal pronoun consstng only of the bloody letter... *rant over*)

[The Dan Keizer]

Geez, I mean you can go to the thrift store and get a keyboard for literally a dollar.

Good post, though.

[wen]

lol t's lke 3 am over here unfortunately and t only just broke down! Thanks for the tp though, wll defntely check t out tomorrow :) 'm on a laptop so eventually 'll have to get the keyboard fxed.. le sgh.

t's really nterstng how people are so smlar just because we happen to share four letters.. who would've thought a "characterstc" of beng a teenaged NTJ s to be consdered prude, or forget to feed yourself? (hehe do that too myself!) t's certanly not the frst thngs 'd thnk about when someone says they're ntroverted, ntutve, a thnker and judgng. mean, get how the NTJ functons could result n thngs lke that but at frst glance? Nope, defntely not.

[bonnievalentine]

I'm currently an intj teen.
I hate materialistic people, peopld who don't think things through, who try to fit in, who make fun if others, and people who hurt others verbally or physically.
Also nice people creep me out, idk why.
I rebel against beliefs.
I hate cristians and catholics cause when i was young my parents shoved religion down my throat.
They get mad at me cause I don't believe in their god.
towards the end of high school i skipped a lot of school to sleep at home.
I skipped classes so i could go home early.
In the beginning if high school I had good grades then they all became D's by senior yeaf.
i had a little party phase, got so drunk I passed out a couple of times.
Smoked weed a bit, I like cigs the most. I don't think that it.s cool I just always liked the smell since i was younger, like paint and nailpolish.
I became a hermit and stopped hanging out with my group of friends because they became what i hated in people.
Oh and all my old frienda used to say I was awkward and serious.