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I never am. (hears sighs of exasperation echoing in the distance)
For me "normal" = Boring or at least means "common place" or "nothing special".
And I guess my Ego doesn't like being associated with that LOL
Or maybe it's simply that "normal" doesn't *resonate* with me...
How about you? How do you interpret "normal"? And are you drawn to "normal" or not?
Cheers for your thoughts!
alphawolf
02-03-2009, 06:51 AM
I am not attracted to normal.
For example, with women, they should have some very unique feature. Usually, it is the eyes.
Autoptic
02-03-2009, 07:02 AM
Normal rarely works for anything. Even unintentionally it runs counter to my existence. Often enough, it isn't even unintentional.
Josephine1012
02-03-2009, 07:17 AM
I think it all comes down to how you define normal... I naively think I'm "normal" and everyone else is for the most part "f*cked up", so I'm attracted to other "normal" people.
Maayan
02-03-2009, 07:25 AM
God, no. Normal wouldn't date me either.
Sinequanon
02-03-2009, 08:10 AM
No, I'm attracted to quirkiness. If I sense normality or banality or typicality it is a fairly quick turn-off.
No, I'm afraid not. Normal is too close to ordinary. I certainly can be attracted to someone who is normal is some respect, but not overall normal.
greenblob
02-03-2009, 09:41 AM
I heard that the most attractive face is an average (in terms of size, position, etc.) of all healthy faces. It seems to appear that most people are attracted to "normal" looking faces (which explains why I'm not attractive--I don't resemble anyone).
OneHertz
02-03-2009, 09:43 AM
Can be... it depends. Normal also means no obscene problems. If it is a short term relationship then normal sucks, but for long term it is definitely more acceptable for me as I have lots of other things to worry about in my life without my partner always being one of those things.
dalidaisy
02-03-2009, 09:51 AM
I'm not attracted to what society would view as normal. And, I don't think that normal people would be attracted to me, either. I find strange & unusual traits interesting. I guess I just like people who are similar to me. I am sooo not normal.
JohnDoe
02-03-2009, 09:52 AM
Most normal people are quirky in at least one unique way, so I don't see what the problem is.
Algol
02-03-2009, 09:54 AM
Many quirks can be quite endearing.
Someone that actively tries to blend in all the time and willingly tries to mask their unique personality traits is what I find most unappealing.
rara avis
02-03-2009, 10:35 AM
I've been told that I have a "normalcy fetish". Which is to say that I lurve all kinds of "normal", 1950s, Stepford-esque elements.
My friend who was discussing this pointed out that it's masochistic and kinda sad, since as soon as I become involved with said element, it takes on a new strange quality, and is no longer quite normal. I'm like Lenny tending the rabbits, lol.
That's what I like, though - very conventional elements gone a little weird, or with my own stamp on them. I mix-n-match as I please.
I think I dislike it more when people really try to groom themselves as "strange" than when they do the same for "normal." There's something twice as irritating about sheep who think they're badass iconoclasts. In that way, I have an easier time not smacking the ones who can own their lot and their limitations.
paradoxes
02-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Normal is the single MOST unattractive thing to me.
Algol
02-03-2009, 10:50 AM
That's what I like, though - very conventional elements gone a little weird, or with my own stamp on them. I mix-n-match as I please.
I think I dislike it more when people really try to groom themselves as "strange" than when they do the same for "normal." There's something twice as irritating about sheep who think they're badass iconoclasts. In that way, I have an easier time not smacking the ones who can own their lot and their limitations.
Ha! I did not really think about it this way but it is something I find quite appealing too.
I am also even more irritated by people who go out of the way to appear non conformist than by those who are a bit weird and try their best to fit in. I guess in summary I am just irritated by anyone who is obviously trying to be someone who they are not! :-o
BlackOp
02-03-2009, 11:00 AM
Normal is SO HOT....
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Be Sound
02-03-2009, 11:08 AM
As far back as I can remember I have never been "normal". I guess with that there is some attraction there if just the desire to see what it is like and understand it better. There are times where I just want to fit in and be normal but alas, I am what I am.
I almost never attract "normal" either. I keep to myself a lot so most of the people who come up to me are slightly off kilter. I mean, who else is going to approach the brooding guy by himself (me) in the dark corner of work or the coffee shop?
Maayan
02-03-2009, 11:25 AM
Can be... it depends. Normal also means no obscene problems.
Good point. I don't want to invite problems into my life that I can't (or won't) handle.
That's what I like, though - very conventional elements gone a little weird, or with my own stamp on them. I mix-n-match as I please.
I think I dislike it more when people really try to groom themselves as "strange" than when they do the same for "normal." There's something twice as irritating about sheep who think they're badass iconoclasts. In that way, I have an easier time not smacking the ones who can own their lot and their limitations.
Agreed. My best INTJ friend calls me on this all the time -- rightfully so.
lamplighter
02-03-2009, 11:50 AM
No, I don't like conformity, but I don't like people who go out of the way to be different for the sake of being different either, sometimes it's okay to like the same things as others. I am attracted to an independency of personal tastes, people who have their own opinion I guess is another way of looking at it.
Storm
02-03-2009, 11:58 AM
"Normal" is such a subjective term.
I construe the word broadly to mean "anyone with a stable mind."
So, since I'm not attracted to the clinically insane, I like normal.
Oh no! That must mean I'm a sheeple! I have to rebel!
Oh wait, no it doesn't.
Weird is overrated. Just do what you like, who cares how many other people like it?
I like to wear jeans and a t-shirt. I am attracted to masculine men. I like them to wear jeans and t-shirts on the weekend and not consciously try to stand-out. Trying to stand-out is a sign a vainity. I do not like vainity.
I want my significant other to have similar interests and values to me. I've never evaluted whether those things are normal or not. It doesn't matter.
ElstonGunn
02-03-2009, 12:32 PM
Unless you're going to define your terms, this question is tailor-made for bullshitting. What is considered "normal" in this context? How close to the average does something have to be to be considered normal?
Biologically normal? I'd like that. I don't think I'd be particularly attracted to someone with three arms and syphilis. Most people have two arms and a lack of syphilis. That's the norm.
Most people in the world are female. That would make the average gender female, so unless you're attracted to men, you could say that you'd much prefer someone with the normal gender. And that's saying noting about hermaphrodites.
What does it mean to be psychologically normal? Does that mean that you're not certifiably insane, or does it mane that you're just boring? How far do you have to go in order to be considered not normal? Do you have to do something other than work 9 to 5, and go to Wal-Mart on the weekends, or do you have to spend your free time screaming at traffic while wearing bluejeans on your head?
This is a really pointless discussion to have if you're not going to explain what you mean. "Normal" is a relative measure. Of course, we all think normal is bad somehow, because we confuse it as the opposite of special, so I guess it doesn't matter anyways.
Storm
02-03-2009, 01:02 PM
I'm with ElstonGunn. Despite all this "I don't want somoene whose" *glup* "normal!!" I've ofoten heard people say "Why I can't meet a nice, normal guy/girl?"
So Zhen, does
Normal = not a psycho
or
Normal = doesn't think for themselves
I see you do say that Normal = Boring. But that's rather pointless to say. No one wants to be bored.
questionableme
02-03-2009, 01:33 PM
Well, since "normal" is sort of a relative term, I'd rather answer a question like this: are you generally attracted to people that are weirder than you, as weird as you and in the same way, as weird as you but in a different way, or less weird than you?
Personally, I go the less weird route. That's still basically everyone.
altoid
02-03-2009, 01:39 PM
I interpreted the original post as an invitation for us to each define "normal" for ourselves, and then elaborate on our level of attraction to what we find to be "normal".
I interpret the descriptor "normal" to mean that there is nothing remarkable to say about that person ("He's just a normal guy.") So in that sense, for me, normal == boring. I prefer some quirks. Not "he kills cats in his spare time" types of quirks (or other obscene problems), but more along the lines of an interesting hobby, a unique point of view, etc. I'm having trouble explaining it objectively, but something that makes that person a little different. When I see something like that, it makes me more interested in finding out what makes that person tick.
But I suppose, also, that one woman's quirky is another woman's normal. One of my friends accuses me of being a "brain-f**ker" (attracted to intelligence), so *my* interpretation of normal vs. quirky may focus heavily on the cerebral. :p
Normal is SO HOT....
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There's nothing wrong with children or a dog, but something about that picture terrifies me.
*shudders*
enfpchick
02-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Since im attracted to INTJs i think that would be a negative.:p
BostonIan
02-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Normal: ?
Common, Popular, Prevalent? ... No
Average, Ordinary, Regular? ... Maybe.
Conventional, Natural, Traditional? ... Yes.
Healthy, Sound, Well-adjusted? ... Yes.
Anreader
02-03-2009, 05:20 PM
I like a little quirk, a little mystery. Some things "normal" are OK. Like WASPS, technically I am one. Some things normal are creepy. Like that picture, and blonde bimbo barbies... I have to agree with Simon Doonan on that one.
rahdam
02-03-2009, 08:43 PM
Normal really needs to be given context here.
However normal is defined, we have to assume it is, by definition of being normal, more common than the abnormal. Then, to be attracted to normal is to be attracted to that which is more common, and more available. I can only speak for myself, but I know I am definitely attracted to only a thin minority of the population, and I think this is true of most people.
This thin minority is almost certainly not the most common minority in a society of overlapping, dynamically associated minorities. It would be even more difficult to establish an actual majority, when, given sufficient dimensions, every individual becomes unique. In that way, I would say it's natural to be attracted to what is not normal, whatever normal may mean =)
karenk
02-03-2009, 10:00 PM
No, I'm attracted to unusual.
karenk added to this post, 1 minutes and 56 seconds later...
I can only speak for myself, but I know I am definitely attracted to only a thin minority of the population, and I think this is true of most people.
My guess is that is because your personality type is a thin minority of the population. Types which are more common are probably attracted to a larger percentage.
gunnerstahl
02-03-2009, 11:01 PM
No, any girl that seems to fit into a stereotype too easily is extremely unattractive, and especially boring.
amberlinen
02-04-2009, 12:46 AM
I'm attracted to people who...have a good sense of reality and also not afraid of keeping some ideals and dreams that seem unattainable conventionally, some childlike innocence with the knowledge of how adults deal with the world. Normal people...either become narrow-minded and conventional after learning about some limited rules of the real world or only innocent in a self-indulgent and naive way when they're in denial and don't see the bigger picture of reality.
For company I'll prefer a gentle soul over an arrogant and cocky person at any time. I guess the former is more normal than the latter?
Okay I guess I should explain that this thread was inspired by the little man in the pic. Basically I showed it to my 4yo niece who was absolutely repulsed by it. I am pretty sure at the same age I would have thought it was "really cool", definitely cooler than any mass produced Barbie in a box!!
So I guess when I posted the thread I was just wondering if being attracted to "unusual" and "different" was a common thing amongst INTJs?
However I also personally associate "unique", "unusual", "quirky" and "different" with "not the norm" and hence the term "normal" came about which I know is a subjective, relative term blah blah however that is exactly why I said in the original post that I wanted to know how you interpret "normal".
(Alot of things I ask are just wondering if it is an INTJ thing because honestly MBTI is not a big deal outside of the States and most non Americans I know wouldn't even know their type...)
Zhen added to this post, 14 minutes and 2 seconds later...
Normal: ?
Common, Popular, Prevalent? ... No
Average, Ordinary, Regular? ... Maybe.
Conventional, Natural, Traditional? ... Yes.
Healthy, Sound, Well-adjusted? ... Yes.
okay if you interpret it that way maybe I have slightly more appreciation for "normal" but on the whole...never! I am still always most immediately drawn to something that has obvious quirk or difference placed side by side with something that is more usual. anything that is "too normal" from the outset will just not attract me, likewise anything that is overtly & consciously trying to be "different" and stand out from the outset doesn't appeal either- e.g people who dress super weird in inappropriate contexts just strikes me as a sad cry for attention/to be noticed.
Zhen added to this post, 3 minutes and 38 seconds later...
Since im attracted to INTJs i think that would be a negative.:p
haha so I presume not being INTJ you would classify yourself as "normal"? Yeah...I do agree INTJs do tend to come across as "not the norm" (being polite) and "weird" (being blunt)...maybe it is exactly what Rahdam said that we're a minority...or maybe it is how people come across on the net...maybe I should check out a forum of a MBTI type that would more likely qualify according to conventional thought of what constitutes "normal"...
Zhen added to this post, 1 minutes and 31 seconds later...
I interpreted the original post as an invitation for us to each define "normal" for ourselves, and then elaborate on our level of attraction to what we find to be "normal".
yay! someone that gets me! that's what I meant...you're just better at expressing me...LOL
Zhen added to this post, 8 minutes and 1 seconds later...
I'm with ElstonGunn. Despite all this "I don't want somoene whose" *glup* "normal!!" I've ofoten heard people say "Why I can't meet a nice, normal guy/girl?"
So Zhen, does
Normal = not a psycho
or
Normal = doesn't think for themselves
I see you do say that Normal = Boring. But that's rather pointless to say. No one wants to be bored.
Normal is whatever you think it to mean! But if you're asking me between the choices you presented I choose Normal=not a psycho...
but "Normal" equates to many things for me...many of which I have already mentioned (probably disproportionately negative) even though there are many positives of "normal"! e.g SANE would be my favourite positive interpretation of normal.
Zhen added to this post, 14 minutes and 47 seconds later...
Most normal people are quirky in at least one unique way, so I don't see what the problem is.
True, I find if you dig deep enough even the most normal (boring) seeming people always have something fascinating about them :)
Zhen added to this post, 2 minutes and 15 seconds later...
I'm not attracted to what society would view as normal. And, I don't think that normal people would be attracted to me, either. I find strange & unusual traits interesting. I guess I just like people who are similar to me. I am sooo not normal.
LOL I think you should start a poll thread on "do you attract weirdos"?
Zhen added to this post, 3 minutes and 21 seconds later...
Can be... it depends. Normal also means no obscene problems. If it is a short term relationship then normal sucks, but for long term it is definitely more acceptable for me as I have lots of other things to worry about in my life without my partner always being one of those things.
hmmm gotta be careful there- I've found that it's all the most "normal" seeming people that are the ones who are hiding all the really weird stuff that is hidden so deep it's a while before you discover it!
True Rune
02-04-2009, 07:35 AM
I am a weirdo myself, so I wouldn't mind another one. That is, if anyone at all could interest me.
Freedom Geek
02-04-2009, 09:04 AM
Not in the least. Normal is not intellectual. Normal wants children. Normal believes in all kind of woo. Normal talks to much.
Me and normal have never gotten along.
Antares
02-04-2009, 09:32 AM
'Normal' doesn't become me, but I've been attracted to fairly 'normal' people in the past. I don't mind normal people as long as they have a certain level of intelligence about them. They might be normal in every way except one that stands out to me, and that is completely fine.
Kisai
02-04-2009, 09:34 AM
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I swear to god, the kid in the green shirt is checking out the kid in the red and blue shirt's package.
I have trouble finding anyone who qualifies as being absolutely normal. Boring, yes. Average, yes. Without goals, sure. Of Plato's 'The Many', sure.
It's not attractive at all to be normal.
Zombicide
02-04-2009, 09:37 AM
Not inherently oppose to normal, if normal were to consist of what I can appreciate, then yes, I would be attracted to normal but for the most part, what currently constitutes normal are the things that I abhor. So no, I am not generally attracted to the things that are considerably normal i.e. I believe I could easily get use to normal if normal were not teh suck but am not necessarily attracted to most current norms. No
Curious Cat
02-04-2009, 09:39 AM
Most normal people are quirky in at least one unique way, so I don't see what the problem is.
Many try and hide it.
LionsPride
02-04-2009, 09:53 AM
Despite the pleas for a definition of normal I found the responses interesting. Regardless of what normal is globally, the way people define normal and place themselves in relation to it is very interesting. This is followed by an indication if they are looking for someone like themselves or someone who is not makes the posts rather insightful.
Am I attracted to normal? I'm not sure. Perhaps. I actually find few people to be abnormal. I can usually understand the rationale behind their behaviours and people acting according with their beliefs and perceptions are all normal to me.
In terms of the way that other people use the word (calling people weird if they don't conform to society) outwardly, I am probably the most normal person. My traits and my actions would not make anyone blush or shocked in any way. However, on the inside I think I'm very different from the average in terms of the people around me. Some people can see the inside and they think of me as being special in some way. Most people see only the outside and think nothing special about me.
BlackOp
02-04-2009, 10:34 AM
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I swear to god, the kid in the green shirt is checking out the kid in the red and blue shirt's package.
Yeah...but his brother is "presenting". The father is hiding a bloody butcher knife....
lancelot
02-04-2009, 10:49 AM
I guess not because normal is average, uncreative and trite. I have never been normal!
rara avis
02-04-2009, 10:55 AM
My friend's favorite poetry professor told him once that the most promising, interesting students in his classes over the years were the ones who came in and quietly sat down, practically vibrating with the effort it required for them to blend in, to pass as normal.
He said those kids were the most likely to have the weirdest shit going on inside, to come up with the most profound or bizarre or originally felt material... moreso than the ones who were grooming themselves to give off the "poetic" vibe, or to be dark.
It's the ones who are hiding stuff that you have to watch for. It's an observation about "Normal" that I've always liked thinking about...
Samoan Corleone
02-04-2009, 02:47 PM
Define normal? I only ever go for eccentric chicks, they're more intriguing.
Maayan
02-04-2009, 03:07 PM
I take it back.
I'm wary of people who don't like others on the grounds that they're "normal." Or, more specifically, I'm wary of people who aren't willing to accept that another's choices and values may be different from their own. To use myself as an example: I don't know if I'd be attracted to someone who would discredit me for being "normal" in many respects. In a lot of ways, I read as an ESFP. It doesn't stop me from being terribly prone to geekiness, nor is it my worst character trait. Why should my perceived normality -- as goes the running joke about ESFPs -- be the deal breaker? It's not like I'm forcing you to come shoe shopping with me.
rara avis
02-04-2009, 03:32 PM
^ That is one of the most difficult facets of the strong J for me to deal with, and I think it's what keeps me a mini-J... I bristle when people jump to conclusions and make snap or broad judgements about other people and their behaviors or choices. It seems like something I see a lot from major J's... (like my ISTJ mother. I'm even more conscious of it when there's an S-type motivation behind it, lol)
I guess it's a useful thing to be able to do on occasion. But I think my reticence in that area has to do with spending so much of my time in life so far resisting people's efforts to re-form me or write me off based on their own limitations. I don't want to be the person who does that.
I don't necessarily want to have much to do with people who don't suit me, either... but I like for them to go right ahead and do as they please, as long as they aren't really hurting anybody. I'll try to look at them on a case-by-case basis.
I often consciously try to keep my statements more flexible or qualified than definitive when I'm talking to or about someone else and their stuff.
...did I just go totally off-topic?
aranae
02-04-2009, 03:44 PM
I think "normal" is conceptually decided by the majority of the population- which are SJ's.
Am I attracted to SJ types? not in the least. same for NF's, most are too traditional.
I am attracted to non-conventional people: which are the SP's and NT's.
*the only NF exception is Fox Mulder.
Lymitra
02-04-2009, 04:23 PM
I find that the more I get to know "normal," the less normal it becomes.
SShack
02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Heh, this all reminds me of a site full of description lists my INTJ buddy found along with possible jobs. We decided they were a bit superficial and downright dumb (especially suggesting that ENTPs become assassins, like we'd be able to keep from bragging about it). But it did have on there, which we both found amusing:
INTJ: People think they're weird
ENTP: Are drawn to weird things
walden
02-04-2009, 06:16 PM
I think it all comes down to how you define normal... I naively think I'm "normal" and everyone else is for the most part "f*cked up", so I'm attracted to other "normal" people.
Haha. This about sums it up for me. I consider people who act logically and intelligently to be normal. If I can understand and agree with the whole or parts of someone's decision making process then they are normal. There aren't many normal people around.
In personal life, my ego would prefer something a bit special.
But for works and social, normal is good and most of the time synonym with neutrality which is the best. So as long as "normal" works, it's fine by me.
yepunsarang
02-05-2009, 02:44 PM
I want to be with someone "normal" in that they are socially able to survive (not so weird that they can't fit in at all in any way possible), sane, and practical to some degree. But i'd never want to be with a "normal" person who is stale---has all the qualities that make them seem generic. I want to be with someone who is quirky, special, distinctive, unique, without going over the top. So that way, I can learn from them and grow from them. :)
Uytuun
02-05-2009, 02:58 PM
Nope.
ElstonGunn
02-05-2009, 03:06 PM
So I guess when I posted the thread I was just wondering if being attracted to "unusual" and "different" was a common thing amongst INTJs?
If you want to know something like that, don't ask people about it. All they can tell is whether or not they think that they like "normal," based on what that word means to them.
And given that intuitives in general see the concept of the status quo as inherently and unconditionally bad (a major flaw of theirs, if you ask me), and that they seem to base their self-worth and self-worth off of being unusual in relation to others, what do you think they'd reply when you ask them their opinion of a concept that's essentially a synonym for "status quo"?
However I also personally associate "unique", "unusual", "quirky" and "different" with "not the norm" and hence the term "normal" came about which I know is a subjective, relative term blah blah however that is exactly why I said in the original post that I wanted to know how you interpret "normal".
Everybody thinks they're unique. Unique is normal. If you met a person who was completely normal in every way, it would blow your friggin' mind, because no one has ever even seen a person like that.
...I'm beating a dead horse, aren't I?
Many try and hide it.
And others try to drum it up and exaggerate it. "I'm weird, isn't that great? Look at how charming quirky I am."
Synamon
02-05-2009, 03:12 PM
So I guess when I posted the thread I was just wondering if being attracted to "unusual" and "different" was a common thing amongst INTJs?
However I also personally associate "unique", "unusual", "quirky" and "different" with "not the norm" and hence the term "normal" came about which I know is a subjective, relative term blah blah however that is exactly why I said in the original post that I wanted to know how you interpret "normal".
What is usual? What is different? These terms don't really help define what normal is either. I'm guessing you equate normal to conformity.
I'm attracted to people who are interesting. What makes someone interesting to me? Passion for something in their lives, knowledge of something I want to learn about, a different approach to life than I have, curiosity about the world, etc. None of that makes them normal or abnormal, just individual.
Uytuun
02-05-2009, 03:21 PM
...I'm beating a dead horse, aren't I?
Cool, I didn't read the OP and you did, look at what presentation vs. base question does. ;)
*enjoys the relativity treatment the topic's getting, though* :)
Sinequanon
02-05-2009, 04:30 PM
And others try to drum it up and exaggerate it. "I'm weird, isn't that great? Look at how charming quirky I am."
I certainly don't dress or act out in public in ways that will attract attention to myself, which I would consider fairly normal, but I am attracted to women that do, which I would consider quirky. Is there a space, in your opinion, for people to address the thread in a non-self-congratulatory way? Just curious. (Since I usually agree with you about these things.)
Muumeh
02-05-2009, 06:45 PM
I'd say I'm attracted to people who are normal on my standards: similar vocabulary (or atleast the ability to understand me without me changing my vocabulary), has similar fundamental values and moral codes, and acts accordingly to them. Physically wise has not too extreme body figure (not morbidly obese, thin, muscular), not too exaggerated body language etc etc... I hope you get the picture.
ElstonGunn
02-05-2009, 08:21 PM
Is there a space, in your opinion, for people to address the thread in a non-self-congratulatory way? Just curious.
Maybe in theory, but as far as practicality goes, it's not exactly the most likely response. Too much of it is subject to the connotations of the words involved, especially when no one gives examples of what they consider normal, abnormal in an attractive way, and abnormal in a bad or unattractive way.
The concept turns into "abnormal in a good way," since whatever you happen to be attracted to is going to be special to you in some way. And for better or worse, a particularly strong attraction tends to be a rare thing for most people, i.e., not normal.
amberlinen
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
especially when no one gives examples of what they consider normal, abnormal in an attractive way, and abnormal in a bad or unattractive way.
Actually some people did give specific particular circumstantial precise examples of blah blah blah if you care to read this thread.
azelismia
02-05-2009, 08:39 PM
bah, normal not normal, it's all subjective. I think everyone on this forum is normal when it comes down to it.
Snowdragon
02-05-2009, 08:50 PM
No. Freakin. Way.
BlackOp
02-05-2009, 10:26 PM
bah, normal not normal, it's all subjective. I think everyone on this forum is normal when it comes down to it.
I resent that.....:p
daydreamer
02-05-2009, 10:53 PM
normal people make the world go round. otherwise it could end up quite flat.
What is usual? What is different? These terms don't really help define what normal is either. I'm guessing you equate normal to conformity.
I'm attracted to people who are interesting. What makes someone interesting to me? Passion for something in their lives, knowledge of something I want to learn about, a different approach to life than I have, curiosity about the world, etc. None of that makes them normal or abnormal, just individual.
In my mind, Usual is what you see alot of, all the time, a majority.
Unusual(Different)=not commonly seen, a minority.
ie. if you walk down a busy street and amongst the crowd you see someone dressed in a green furry chicken suit...that would be unusual, abnormal or... different! Hopefully I've defined the terms according to me enough cos I doubt I can "explain" any more!
Zhen added to this post, 11 minutes and 6 seconds later...
If you want to know something like that, don't ask people about it. All they can tell is whether or not they think that they like "normal," based on what that word means to them.
And given that intuitives in general see the concept of the status quo as inherently and unconditionally bad (a major flaw of theirs, if you ask me), and that they seem to base their self-worth and self-worth off of being unusual in relation to others, what do you think they'd reply when you ask them their opinion of a concept that's essentially a synonym for "status quo"?
Everybody thinks they're unique. Unique is normal. If you met a person who was completely normal in every way, it would blow your friggin' mind, because no one has ever even seen a person like that.
...I'm beating a dead horse, aren't I?
And others try to drum it up and exaggerate it. "I'm weird, isn't that great? Look at how charming quirky I am."
well that's exactly it I don't presume to know what or how other people think (and it's interesting from a common MBTI point of view)especially when I really don't know other INTJs, hence the curiosity...it's just like any qualitative study really...how do you know about others without hearing other people's opinions? I'm just interested in other people...I'm not making you read the thread or anything...but obviously something about it must interest you enough to keep posting!
Zhen added to this post, 2 minutes and 46 seconds later...
Heh, this all reminds me of a site full of description lists my INTJ buddy found along with possible jobs. We decided they were a bit superficial and downright dumb (especially suggesting that ENTPs become assassins, like we'd be able to keep from bragging about it). But it did have on there, which we both found amusing:
INTJ: People think they're weird
ENTP: Are drawn to weird things
*LOL although I think INTJ people only end up thinking they're "weird" cos they get told that a lot and find they don't seem to be able to relate much to most people, more so than other types experience.
Zhen added to this post, 5 minutes and 38 seconds later...
Despite the pleas for a definition of normal I found the responses interesting. Regardless of what normal is globally, the way people define normal and place themselves in relation to it is very interesting.
Exactly!!
probity
02-06-2009, 09:30 PM
In my mind normal is rarely an answer to what something is, but how it functions. A person can be a normal housewife, a normal gypsy, or a normal thug. I am not particularly attracted to 'normal'. For me, normal equates to mediocrity in whatever it is you do. I do not find mediocrity at all attractive.
auriga vega
02-06-2009, 09:52 PM
Normal is weird
mikebob
02-07-2009, 12:33 AM
Nope. Normal is sort of boring.
auriga vega
02-07-2009, 07:51 PM
Define normal
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