How Rei trained her dogs

[Guido]

This thread is about Rei and how she trained her dogs without treats. Inquiring minds want to know :D

[Rei]

How not?
I make them do something till they get it right. They usually get the point... and won't do it wrong on purpose b/c I won't let them off the hook until they get it right. :thinking:

[Firelie]

In other words, she beats them with an iron hanger when they do something wrong. :thumbsup:

[Tarrick]

How not?
I make them do something till they get it right. They usually get the point... and won't do it wrong on purpose b/c I won't let them off the hook until they get it right. :thinking:

Make them? That there is what we are wondering. How do you make them do it? :-?

[rwyatt365]

Rei - Dog Whisperer! :D

[Rei]

er... examples:
Apply pressure to the croup when you want them to sit.
Apply pressure to the withers if you want them to lie down.


Animals are great at reading body language. *It's easy to convey discontent without beating them. *Besides, dogs generally like to please. *So they'll do things till you're happy.
Plus, I have a collie, and a collie cross... they're ridiculously easy to train.
You could say they have a very good iN.

...
man, now I feel like typing my dogs

[aude]

Let see if rei can train a cat next :P

[anul]

I was able to train my landlords cat. Now the cat listens to me more than it does to her. His name is Ribbons, and he was a hobo cat before she domesticated him.

[Rei]

Cats are trainable... just that cats will definitely need bribes as cats work for self benefit. ;)

[aude]

Kinda like a intj, we will work for you but its going to cost you.

[Firelie]

Cats are trainable... just that cats will definitely need bribes as cats work for self benefit. *;)

They are trainable. I made sure I got a young kitten so I could teach him how to behave. My roommates are constantly amazed at how well he listens to tone-of-voice commands and how easily he responds to body language. It helps that he has a dog-like personality and is very social.

[Rei]

Kinda like a intj, we will work for you *but its going to cost you.

Yeah I'd say the typical cat is INTJ and the typical dog is ENFP. ;)

[Cato the Younger]

Kinda like a intj, we will work for you but its going to cost you.

Yeah I'd say the typical cat is INTJ and the typical dog is ENFP. ;)

Except, cats are actually dumber than dogs. It's rather interesting.

[Rei]

Kinda like a intj, we will work for you *but its going to cost you.

Yeah I'd say the typical cat is INTJ and the typical dog is ENFP. *;)

Except, cats are actually dumber than dogs. *It's rather interesting.

How'd you figure that?

[Guido]

I would argue cats are smarter :o Just because they normally don't choose to show their intelligence, doesn't make them dumb. They're just very independant. My cats have showed they can be quite smart if they're pushed to do so.

[Cato the Younger]

I know I read it somewhere. Can't find it though. Apparently it's hard to prove either is smarter. What's your base argument for cats being smarter?

[Rei]

It's hard to say which is smarter. *Cats may be brilliant and simply unwilling to do anything about it (when you're around). Dogs on the other hand, they use their intellegence so naturally that you don't really notice it. A lot of things go on in that animal brain that we can't imagine.

My dogs know feeding time with an uncertainty of maximum 5 minutes. They recognize the difference b/w my dressing to walk them, and dressing to go out. My dog once hurt his paw, and we bandaged it up. He would know not to lick it while we were around because we'd scold him. The second we walked out the door he started licking it was hilarious.

[Cato the Younger]

I think the cat's behavior has more to do with survival techniques than intelligence.

[Jezebel]

Generally, animals that live in more complex social groups tend to be 'smarter' because they require a greater need to understand communication and find ways to work together. Dogs are more social than cats, so they're going to have a greater understanding of communicating and more of a desire to fit in with their pack. Thus, they will be much more trainable and appear more intelligent than cats, which have different needs.

[Rei]

I think the cat's behavior has more to do with survival techniques than intelligence.

As in you think survival techniques don't require intellegence?

Generally, animals that live in more complex social groups tend to be 'smarter' because they require a greater need to understand communication and find ways to work together. Dogs are more social than cats, so they're going to have a greater understanding of communicating and more of a desire to fit in with their pack. Thus, they will be much more trainable and appear more intelligent than cats, which have different needs.

I think social/group animals are just more organized in their thinking.
(think about sheep... they're not that smart...)

[Cato the Younger]

I think the cat's behavior has more to do with survival techniques than intelligence.

As in you think survival techniques don't require intellegence?

I'm saying that cats use different techniques in the wild for survival than dogs.


I think social/group animals are just more organized in their thinking.
(think about sheep... they're not that smart...)

Do sheep actually hunt together and take down predators much larger than them?

[Jezebel]

I think social/group animals are just more organized in their thinking.
(think about sheep... they're not that smart...)

I specifically mean 'complex' social groups. Such as dogs, monkeys, elephants, dolphins, etc.... I don't mean just any animal that lives in a group. I wouldn't consider a school of fish particularly intelligent either.

[Rei]

I think the cat's behavior has more to do with survival techniques than intelligence.

As in you think survival techniques don't require intellegence?

I'm saying that cats use different techniques in the wild for survival than dogs.


I think social/group animals are just more organized in their thinking.
(think about sheep... they're not that smart...)

Do sheep actually hunt together and take down predators much larger than them?

Ah I see. *I guess that's possible.

Erm... I didn't get the last one there.
I DO hope they don't. *They scare me enough as it is... with that blank look in their eyes *:-/

I think social/group animals are just more organized in their thinking.
(think about sheep... they're not that smart...)

I specifically mean 'complex' social groups. Such as dogs, monkeys, elephants, dolphins, etc.... I don't mean just any animal that lives in a group. I wouldn't consider a school of fish particularly intelligent either.

Ah... then i'd have to agree with you

[Jezebel]

I have two cats by the way. I trained them to do a couple of tricks, but rewards were absolutely necessary. I can tell they have a much harder time telling the commands apart, too. It was more like "okay, I get fed when I do this. If that doesn't work, I'll sometimes get fed when I do this...".

It was kind of cute because I could tell they saw it more of a means of getting treats than pleasing me or showing off their intelligence. Right after I trained them, one would rotate through the tricks every time he saw me go toward his food without me saying anything.

[Rei]

I have two cats by the way. I trained them to do a couple of tricks, but rewards were absolutely necessary. I can tell they have a much harder time telling the commands apart, too. It was more like "okay, I get fed when I do this. If that doesn't work, I'll sometimes get fed when I do this...".

It was kind of cute because I could tell they saw it more of a means of getting treats than pleasing me or showing off their intelligence. Right after I trained them, one would rotate through the tricks every time he saw me go toward his food without me saying anything.

LOL!
That's adorable.
Hum... that's a case that says dogs are smarter...