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Sazeriel
01-30-2009, 04:45 PM
Still in high school myself, I find that its impossible for me to really connect with anyone. I have never had a romantic relationship with any guy. Maybe its just the intj in me that completely makes me shy away from everyone.

Can someone please describe the intj teenage male? Maybe past experiences from when you were younger, or something like that? I think that maybe meeting someone more like me would really help.

Shinqui
01-30-2009, 05:41 PM
Lets see, high school?

Read novels in class.
Late all the time.
Avoided crowded hallways and knew all the lesser traveled ways around school.
Sat at the back of the classrom.
Skipped all audatorium functions.
Spent a lot of time in the library.
Avoided the cafeteria.
Spent a lot of time in the smoking area.
Appearance wise, totaly lacking in any type of conformity.
Talked to few, if any, people during the course of the school day.
Arcades and libraries at night, oh and the occasional nature spot to get away from it all.

So, in retrospect, hard to find. Best of luck!

Lycurgus
01-30-2009, 05:43 PM
Lets see, high school?

Read novels in class.
Late all the time.
Avoided crowded hallways and knew all the lesser traveled ways around school.
Sat at the back of the classrom.
Skipped all audatorium functions.
Spent a lot of time in the library.
Avoided the cafeteria.
Spent a lot of time in the smoking area.
Appearance wise, totaly lacking in any type of conformity.
Talked to few, if any, people during the course of the school day.
Arcades and libraries at night, oh and the occasional nature spot to get away from it all.

So, in retrospect, hard to find. Best of luck!This was me, except never late.



Look for the guy who tries not to be noticed.

ToC
01-30-2009, 06:33 PM
hmm..

I went to a boarding school of inbred idiot twats... so I'm probably not your archetype:

I'm an 18 y/o Male FYI

- Smoked cigs between classes
- drank 50/50 screwdrivers in class
- zoned out teacher while sitting in the back
- subtly vilified teacher if he/she tried to make an ass of me for not paying attention
- made grammatical corrections to English teacher's handouts and handed them back in with red pen marks
- spent my whole time making countless lists in a spiral notebook (it's how I think)
- gave the you-will-die look to any idiot who tried sitting next to me
- acted as if the rules in the class didn't exist and played stupid when reprimanded
- was constantly eating something
- usually had a few ES cocksucking wannabes who incessantly followed me around asking me to teach them my ways so they could be my proteges
- I bullied bullies
- I was varsity in every sport I did, but refused to do anything with "the team"
- i spent too much time planning what i was going to do and not enough time doing
- had a backpack with every book known to man, a laptop, tooth brush, notebooks, face lotion, and everything else possibly imaginable
- I'm told that I had a perpetual smirk
- I skipped three graduations in four years (including my own)
- I chain dated entire groups of best friends, usually leaving them hating one another and still adoring asshole me
- i'd be able to change my voice tone, most facial expressions and so forth, but my eyes were always completely flat
- i didn't sleep enough and usually looked hungover
- when i was writing or reading something and people would ask what I was doing I'd just say "nothing" or blow them off without disguising it
- I habitually go to movies, dinners, theme parks, and so forth by myself, and am not bothered by it at all
- I always sat in the back close to a door or against a wall
- i'd be pleasant, courteous, and sincere with people until they royally pissed me off... and then i'd start acting very pleasantly, smile, get inside their personal space, and scare the living shit out of them with my very convincing psychopath act
- in the cafeteria I'd sit in the area of the room where my current exploit/fuckbuddy/girlfriend/dickwhip would be least likely to track me down, and move all the chairs away from my table so people wouldn't sit by me
- i dressed well, but not flamboyantly and was very anal-retentive about how everything fit
- think I brushed my teeth 6 times a day or something
- I seemed like the most straight edge guy in the school so the RAs had no clue I was a tobacco and alcohol tycoon
- i hated all mandatory events like games, assemblies, pep rallies, floor meetings, etc.
- i had 1-2 actual friends at a time.. either ENTP ENFP INTP or INTJ who I'd exchange esoteric remarks with over the heads of my pathetic entourage

une fille
01-30-2009, 06:59 PM
They're the haughty ones with whom teachers fear verbal confrontation.


I knew three INTJ males while in high school, and they were all very intelligent and had obvious resentment (or at best, disdain) towards authority, though they were usually too smart to get into trouble. Just a warning though.. Youthful immaturity combined with the average testosterone level of a teenage male all rolled into someone with the INTJ personality type can be messy, especially for an equally competent and like-minded female. I had to bite my tongue a number of times so as to not bruise the egos of the three I knew, in interest of preserving our friendships. Admittedly though, I still adore all of them, and they made my life quite a bit more interesting.

Vagrant
01-30-2009, 07:32 PM
I'm a 19 year old INTJ.

When I was in high school:

-I was always on time to my classes
-I had no sense of fashion, always wore shorts and sandals despite the weather.
-When I had nothing to do, I would usually be in the computer lab or library (or in my favorite teacher's room, which happened to be my biology teacher)
-During lunch, I would be around my friends. If I wasn't around my friends (or didn't have many close friends at the time), I would simply wander the halls or the library.
-Always had the exact change ready for my food when I bought lunch.
-I was usually really quiet.
-If I was furious, at least half the class could tell.
-I often answered questions simply because nobody else would answer them
-For some reason, I was able to befriend the strictest of teachers, even though no other student could.
-You could find me very sarcastically remarking on things.
-If a teacher was incompetent, I would hold no reservations on saying it

- I bullied bulliesI did that too. Somehow they ended up mellowing out and becoming cool after I did that.

Sazeriel
01-30-2009, 08:27 PM
For some reason, I was able to befriend the strictest of teachers, even though no other student could.
-You could find me very sarcastically remarking on things.
-If a teacher was incompetent, I would hold no reservations on saying it

Wow. All of this, and a some of what others said were just like me. darn it, I can't think of one guy I know that would fit any of these descriptions.

ToC
01-30-2009, 08:30 PM
You're an RLUEN; are you sure you aren't an INFJ?

BostonIan
01-30-2009, 08:38 PM
~ I was always late, just barely on time or absent, never early.
~ Clothes were dark grey, dark green, dark blue, black. No stripes, no collars, no buttons.
~ In any given class, half of the students would think I was a moron, half would think I was a genius.
~ Every once in a while, there'd be a test that everybody failed. Those were the only ones I consistently aced.
~ I had long-time "friends" who, upon reading my thought-voice (as in online chatting) said, "is that really you? Wow."

laserist
01-30-2009, 10:16 PM
High "school", well maybe it'll be cathartic...

Never late
Usually bored
Not the type who asked questions when I already knew the answer - to "prove" how bright I was? (How 4th grade would that be?)
Salvation was an astronomy class taken via local community college freshman year. The teacher (who passed away last year) was in a quiet, exceedingly meaningful way one of the most significant people in my life. I was fortunate as an INTJ to realize it and say before it was too late...
Included in intellectually challenging extra curricular activities because of occasional brilliance.
Loner
Worker
Found solace in Mark Twain's observation, "First God created an idiot. That was just for practice. Then he created the school board."
Reader
I rode my bike a lot
Photographer
Amateur astronomer
dropped out of high school and college in the same month
Oh, and a guy named Hal once described me as the planetarium genius and thorn in the side...
Best friend was a a driven 4' 10 & 3/4" blond girl named Nancy that I met in the priviously mentioned astronomy class - She went on to MIT & I did laser shows...

I call it post traumatic education syndrome - but the damage was done in grade school...

All that was a long time ago...

bugfrag
01-31-2009, 12:36 AM
I just transfered from overseas during second semester of 10th grade, so some things are different.
20 now

HS:

- wandering why people do that.
- photographer
- SF & mystery novel reader
- surprisingly not that bored at school, but I took 2 art classes. (they don't allow student to take 2 science classes. I was shocked. Even tried to repeal)
- (still) the Simpson fan.
- Got 4 areas to sit during lunch time, depending on mood
a. painting in art room, some of the art-goth-emo types are very very funny.
b. Mixed asian group (everybody speak english, not the 1 language group).
c. Indonesian group (3 ppz in the whole school).
d. The white nerd group. They are also funny.
1 best friend, don't exactly know what type he is.

- learn how to pay taxes, house bills, income tax, banking, etc. so many things to learn because parents didn't speak english.

Never did homework, mostly I forget about them. So easy

I've always felt I went to HS simply because I'm not old enough to go to college yet (boy am I wrong... I could have gone to community college, but new in country)


About the relationship thing:
I don't get it at all. Never got butterfly in my stomach sort of thing.
Tried to somewhat date someone (a couple months ago) but brake up. The other party say I'm not in love.

erkaer
01-31-2009, 07:44 AM
They're the haughty ones with whom teachers fear verbal confrontation.

That was a revelation for me, a way to finally deal with these teachers. One time I just boiled (the teacher was busy calling us idiots), stood up, and declared I had a really important conversation with the school's groundskeeper. Strangely enough I was allowed a leave, thus giving me the time to cool down. But when I came back and the teacher asked in a sly voice "How was your conversation?" I snapped. I replied, that the groundskeeper turned out to be a very polite and intelligent interlocutor (as opposed to the teacher, but I managed to stop myself from saying that aloud, he already knew what I meant). He went crazy and then would not talk to me for about a year.

But I don't know I qualify, because of my P instead of J ;)

Shikaze
01-31-2009, 07:57 AM
< INTJ teenager

ok, let's see:

-I'm a loner (sometimes) usually I have my closest aides around me. One that could keep up with how I think.
-I'm was 3 years class president in my 4 years in High School.
-Yes, teachers are afraid to confront me verbally. I have a certain "reputation" in the faculty which I have a very strong gut feeling about.
-I like Literature
-I'm a bit "naughty"
-Avoids social gatherings. But I didn't do so in High School.
-Avoids bad company (wild people)
-Has a lot to say
-The whole class knows when I'm pissed off. They know they shouldn't screw around with me. I had a japanese classmate once, she kept teasing and playing me, I responded the same way. But then she crossed the line and she got kicked out. Too bad, she was pretty.
-Usually the go-to-guy of classmates who can't write essays and are horrible in literature and some sciences.
-Analytic (depending on topic)
-Likes to journal thoughts.

bottom line- HARD TO FIND.

another one, I have this uncanny ability to get in touch with girls. They ask me for advice, they run to me when they have problems. Man, I was even the confidant/trustee of one of the prettiest girls in school XD.

P.S. - I'm more INTJ than INFJ.

Sazeriel
01-31-2009, 01:51 PM
You're an RLUEN; are you sure you aren't an INFJ?


No, I'm an INTJ. I took that test years ago, and I changed a bit.

Sliderule
01-31-2009, 02:50 PM
Look for fast walkers in between classes. Beyond that I have no idea how one would find an INTJ in high school; I know that I tried my best to go unnoticed.

Samoan Corleone
01-31-2009, 11:50 PM
Me in High School:

- Had the ability to read people.
- Discovered motifs and symbols in texts during English class, some which not even the teacher had found.
- Extremely articulate and meticulous in my choice of words in conversation and writing.
- Gave my five cents on everything that concerned or interested me (a typical N trait, which is why many bloggers and members of this forum are Ns).
- Could comfortably talk to anyone in my year level, but I mostly hung out with the same group of guys all the time.
- Had a strict code of ethics, like Don Corleone.
- Detested conforminty.
- Loved getting into verbal scuffles with idiots, as getting bigger laughs from the surrounding crowd would be satisfying.
- Loved the spotlight, but only if I wasn't stealing it from anyone.
- Considered "quiet" by some, others would say that they couldn't shut me up.
- Outspoken.
- Could connect emotionally with people but could also become a heartless strategist when appropriate (I'm borderline T/F).
- Could act extraverted when appropriate, such as selling chocolates for school fund-raising (they were mint chocolate bars and my target demographic were the kids kids who smoked on school grounds, who I'd never approach otherwise).



another one, I have this uncanny ability to get in touch with girls. They ask me for advice, they run to me when they have problems. Man, I was even the confidant/trustee of one of the prettiest girls in school XD.

Me too! I've got one good female friend who I tell everything to, she also tells everything to me. Basically I help her with guy stuff an she helps me with girl stuff, we both like different people.

zhao jingbo
02-01-2009, 12:11 AM
-As for me, always sitting in a corner to think about something appeals to me no matter between or in classes.

-Very aboveboard and honest

-deny any group activities

-very adept at the courses I am interested in

Shikaze
02-01-2009, 02:24 AM
Look for the guys who try to go unnoticed. You have to be like a Destroyer ship hunting a submarine that's about to dive.

MrDoom
02-01-2009, 06:56 AM
- Always dressed in all black, with multiple sets of the same clothing, generally a t-shirt and jeans. Not because I'm gothic or emo or anything (all emo must be destroyed...), but because a) it removes the difficulty of deciding what to wear on a particular day, since all of the aesthetic decisions have been made beforehand; b) it helps me go unnoticed, I've found (coincidentally, I started dressing the way I do and growing out my hair in 8th grade, when I started truly closing myself off from others after realizing our irreconcilable differences; I don't believe there was any conscious coordination between these two habits); and c) many of the fictional characters I've identified with dress in black (Darth Vader, V, Lelouche Lamperouge, etc.).

- Nonparticipatory in social discussions with classmates. While everyone else faced each other and talked as a group, I'd be the one who sat apart or in the corner, head bowed, usually zoning out. Or my face was buried in a book.

- Did poorly gradewise but was recognized as brilliant by other students as well as teachers, especially in the fields of mathematics and computers. I virtually neglected my formal education in favor of time spent in the school and township library. Autodidactic.

- Never went to parties or other social gatherings. Reclusive to the point of hermitage.

- Often had to answer twice when asked a question: the first time to outline the answer, and the second time to put it in a way others would understand.

- Had only a very small coterie of "associates" with whom I reguarly interacted with. I'm not sure if I've ever had a qualified "friend", however. I only had anything to do with them during school hours.

- Despite being a contrasting visage (dressed in all black and having shoulder-length hair) compared to the crowd, I have a tendency to startle people, because they either don't notice that I am present, or forget that I am there. Probably it's because I am quiet and usually place myself on the outskirts of a gathering.

PHS Philip
02-01-2009, 07:58 AM
Good luck, hehe. No one would recognize me as an INTJ, since I act very ENTPish at school. I don't know if others do that to, but since it seems like other people don't mind ENTPs as much as INTJs, I naturally shift into their behaviors to avoid being bothered.

Other stuff (not necessarily INTJ, I'll just list in case it is):
-Read during class
-Top 15%, with bottom 5% effort
-Ask questions in class beyond material covered
-Pain in the ass to bad teachers, good student (seemingly, still little effort, I just don't actively bother them) for good ones
-Finish work well before the rest of the class
-Don't do things with friends outside of school
-Enjoy messing with "school spirit week" traditions
-Bored, sick of the classes, but will never skip
-Skip assemblies when I think I can get away with it
-Committed to stuff I decide to do (even if I'm fed up with a team I'm on and don't care about it at all, I go to every practice, I still work as hard as I can at it, etc)

elsdfr
02-01-2009, 08:24 AM
Between classes I was usually anywhere the crowd wasn't. It wasn't to be cool either, I just didn't like the noise and chaos of the place.

enris
02-01-2009, 09:07 AM
- Read about advanced stuff, mostly something controversial or experiences of others
- Always had my mind on other things, didn't care about school, started working in the web industry since I was 15
- Hanged with different groups, usually semi cool ones, but not defining myself by any of them
- Got invited to parties, I wasn't popular, but most people know who I was, even I was usually quiet and didn't interact that much (found this later on when I have occasionally connected with old schoolmates)
- Usually didn't do homework, I was asked about the homework I would just improvise something
- Only got active on the classes were I found teacher interesting or smart
- Skipped classes if I think I had a good reason for it
- After school I was usually at home

Vagrant
02-01-2009, 11:35 AM
Good luck, hehe. No one would recognize me as an INTJ, since I act very ENTPish at school. I don't know if others do that to, but since it seems like other people don't mind ENTPs as much as INTJs, I naturally shift into their behaviors to avoid being bothered.

Yeah, usually when I'm in classes, I seem ENTP to a casual observer. Under closer scrutiny though, it becomes obvious I'm INTJ.

elsdfr
02-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Yeah, usually when I'm in classes, I seem ENTP to a casual observer. Under closer scrutiny though, it becomes obvious I'm INTJ.

I had the impression that you might be an ISTJ... if that helps ;D

Zombicide
02-01-2009, 12:28 PM
Getting drunk, having drunken relations with female peers I wasn't actually interested in and wouldn't have been with had I not been drunk but they initiated it when I was drunk, watching sucky anime, Tough Crowd: starring Collin Quinn, The Daily Show (I believe that was on), South Park, Wrestling, The Oreilly Report, Adult Swim, being driven completely insane till I just allowed some dissociative persona to take over so as to cope with the exceptionally overwhelming psychological trauma, skipping school because school sucked, pouring boiling hot water on animals, stabbing animals to death, lighting animals on fire, cutting myself, going to movies, whipping myself, burning myself, doing everything not to masturbate but not because of religion per se so much as the environment of strong Christian overtones, calling most Christians I encounter retards, exercising in preparation for joining the marine core, exaggerating pedophilia to piss people who care about that stuff off, getting into drunken fights, writing vulgar graffiti everywhere, urinating on stuff e.g. Bibles, having a tremendous never ending headache, playing video games, passing out drunk, hanging out with my friends, playing video games, beating up gay people when they got out of line like everyone else trying to make sure no one thought they were gay so that they wouldn't get beaten up then feeling bad about making them cry and telling my friends to stop, learning scientific stuff for fun, bringing weapons to school while contemplating killing everyone for fun, starring people down just to fuck with them, picking fights with people bigger than me to display dominance, moderately trying to fit it as long as it didn't conflict with anything I managed to still give a **** about, generally being way too nice to people but telling door to door church people that I worship Satan and that I had gay sex with the Jesus last night, being nihilistic, being a goth, listening to violent music, playing video games, quietly sitting in my room all emo like that picture of NIN, doing rude stuff to old ladies like the gesture representative of cunnilingus, flashing people my genitals, hating everything. . .with thee one exception being my goddess Maria, I blame her for all of it j/k I should have talked to her more, she blew me kisses and went out of her way to talk to or be around me. Oh and getting drunk.

Jinglish
02-01-2009, 12:36 PM
Well, as a current high school junior...

- At least initially, I seem much more like an ENTP to most people, although that could have something to do with my weak I.
- I'm actually (at least relatively) dedicated to (most of) my schoolwork, but that's mostly because I'm trying to make sure I keep getting strings of A's on my report cards so I can get some good scholarships.
- I have quite a few good friends; some would describe them as my "entourage." They're mostly Ns (three INFJ's, ENTJ, two INTP's, two ENFJ's, ENTP, ENFP, INTP, and INFP), with the exception of an ESFJ and an ISTJ. I know quite a few xSTJ's and xSTP's, and while I admire their intelligence, they constant blabbering about sports or movies bores me to no end. One of them makes a great group partner in Physics, but he simply doesn't grasp why I wouldn't want to discuss sports with him.
- I'm always on time for class.
- I take honors classes and excel in them (I was at the top of the grading curve in honors English class that's a precursor to AP Lit/Comp, and I got 97% in College Algebra and Physics last semester). I do this with very little effort on my part besides doing the homework.
- While I wish that I wasn't well-known in my school (with about four hundred students), I am. A lot of that has to do with my photography; not to brag, but I'm the best in the school right now, and I'm the primary yearbook photographer. Everyone sees me walking around with my Nikon FM2 on my shoulder half of the time. Oh, and I tend to stick out in some classes because I'll know the answer to a teacher's question when nobody else does.
- During my freshman year, I wore Hawaiian shirts to school almost every day except for dress-down days, when we could wear T-shirts (it's a private Catholic school). The only day when I can remember wearing a polo was on Hawaiian Day during Spirit Week.
- No fashion sense whatsoever. I usually wear Carhartts or cargos, coupled with a polo or long-sleeve button-down shirt with the sleeves rolled up, and sometimes a tie (which doesn't match half the time). And a tweed flat cap.

strawberrycat
02-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Well, as a current high school junior...

- During my freshman year, I wore Hawaiian shirts to school almost every day except for dress-down days, when we could wear T-shirts (it's a private Catholic school). The only day when I can remember wearing a polo was on Hawaiian Day during Spirit Week.


Haha!

Wow.. - Drools. -

Why can't there be more people like you guys at my schooooooooooool!?

<_<
>_>

The only INTJ kid I know (if he is.. he says he is but who knows)
is like quiet and shy. that's all i know about him.

and i had an intj teacher, who said that when he was younger, school was really easy for him and that he did all of his work with like no effort. and he was on sports teams and he was good at them.

and my intj ex, well he exaggerates all the time (i think?) so i'm not going to even say anything because everything he said was probably a lie.

and my intj bf (lol <3 intjs) well he says he was really popular and always having fun with his friends and messing around and going to parties. Sometimes I don't think he's intj, but he says he is. i'll take his word for it. i would say he acts like an esfj or like, something else.
o.O

True Rune
02-06-2009, 02:53 PM
Some of these other INTJ's I would hope to avoid when I was at high school. But I just avoided everyone.

-Didn't care much for other people, saw them as "sacks of flesh" who will only be manipulated by their bosses and the media.
-Always late to school, if I couldn't skip.
-Never drank or smoked, or cared about relationships.
-Pretty much stayed inside.

I lived in a dangerous neighborhood as a kid, so I didn't much enjoy leaving the house.

TheLastMohican
02-06-2009, 04:26 PM
Interesting variations in this thread. I'm not sure how much I look like an INTJ in public, but I'll try to describe my behavior:
I walk fast, regardless of whether I'm in a hurry. I only walk slowly when I'm outdoors and enjoying the scenery, or looking at exhibits in a museum.
I dislike being late. I like to arrive between one and five minutes early.
On that note, I'm pretty anal about time. I regularly reset my watch to match with the Naval Observatory's atomic clock, and check the clocks at various places I frequent to see how fast or slow they are.
Overall I consider myself a quiet person, but that varies greatly. In most cases, I am a silent observer, but if the topic turns to something that I care about, I usually don't hesitate to speak my mind (only refraining from doing so if the person with whom I disagree has authority over me and is therefore able and likely to cause me trouble for my opinions). I am also one of the least inhibited when on the stage.
I very rarely look or sound angry, even when I am saying things to express my indignation about something. This has its advantages and disadvantages.
I speak clearly and concisely (often shortly), but I also mutter a lot. I do that when I don't care to have the other person hear it. If you hear me mutter something, it was probably an incomplete thought or a sarcastic comment.
I almost always wear jeans, and rarely shorts, regardless of the weather. For some reason, I seem to be less affected by high or low temperatures than most others around me.

Anderson
02-07-2009, 01:15 AM
I'm 22, so I'm slightly ripe, but I'll give it a go:
-Made top grades in class, although I could have made the bottome 10% and would have been just as satisfied.
-Tend to be concentrated in science electives (AP Physics,Chemistry,Biology), computer science, philosophy.
-Not a big fan of sports.\
-Appears studious/serious but finds contempt in status quo.
-Likes esoteric things.
-Dislikes or at least is skeptical of organized religion.
-Doesn't appear to have many friends, but doesn't appear "lonely" either.

Not a very original list, but accurately describes my teenage years.

Medicine Man
02-07-2009, 05:51 AM
I see several common themes here, which are unsurprisingly recognized as very INTJ.
1. Confronting authority. I did this in high school as well. I went to a religious school, where "loving God" was cool, but getting drunk on the weekends and !@#$ing was commonplace, a highly hypocritical environment. I verbally attacked the principal for holding me and my friends to a double standard, as she was always singling us out and getting us in trouble for being the weird jokesters. I found out years later that she was having an affair with the vice-principal. How right my intuition really was.
2. Doing extremely well in classes without a lot of effort. I was way more focused on running in high school, but still managed to do very well in school. I cheated a lot on homework (then again, who didn't in high-school) but never on tests. I would not trust anyones answer over my own. I graduated third in my class, not first, mainly because my english teacher gave me a B for joking around too much in her class.
This theme continued on into college for a few years, where I pulled mediocre grades in the introductory classes. I realized that if I wanted to go to medical school, I would have to pull the grades up. My last two years I had a 4.0 GPA taking a lot of hard classes like quantum chemistry and thermodynamics, physics, cosmology, cell phys etc.
3. Once the INTJ finds out what he or she wants, he or she lays siege to whatever barriers are in her/his way. I am now in medical school, and score on exams at or near the top every time. I still manage to sleep 8-9 hours a night, exercise a lot, and watch movies. Some of my classmates have to study 16 hours a day just to stay up on classes.
I write all this to encourage people who feel frustrated in high school. Just remember, you will NOT fit in well there because of your abilities. I would suggest trying to do well in school, or at least find some intellectual activity that allows you to culture your talents. Music, programming, debate team, whatever. Work hard to reach the highest level, as this will help you build confidence for the future. I just want to say that having a powerful mind can be the greatest gift or can become a curse depending on how you let your life unfold.

WaeV
02-08-2009, 03:22 PM
I space out a lot, I guess.
I spend most of Calculus / Physics writing calculator programs.
I spend half of my passing time after Physics talking to my (INTJ) teacher about complex scenarios that go way past what we're already learning.
I MBTI type everyone.
I think most of my teachers like me, I don't try to piss anyone off.
I'm much more tactful than my also INTJ friend, he can be very blunt and passionate in his arguments.

Sage
02-08-2009, 03:34 PM
I'll keep it simple since most of what has been said in this thread already accurately describes me.

-Punctual, never late
-Indifferent to the entire social thing
-Few close friends, mainly other "INTJs"
-Never had a girlfriend (they didn't understand me)
-Rebel in many ways
-Aced tests when others failed them
-Answered questions when I felt like answering them
-Some people thought I was a genius, most who did not understand me thought I was a moron.

I loved surprising people when I actually opened up with all my knowledge. Most of them were clueless.

Most important?

I have "reinvented" myself at university.... I'm still punctual, but now I am much more open and "confident" of disseminating my knowledge in the form of debate / discussion. I am career / academically focused, and have plans. I mainly wear black, and try to look "collected." In HS, I was indifferent. Now, I am focused. I am also trying to put myself in situations that foster social development, since being quiet is usually not going to get you far in this world.... You can be the smartest person in the world, but if you don't share this knowledge with others, what good is it?

callmemigs
02-09-2009, 03:40 AM
I'm an INTJ male teenager so I have to describe myself

- Punctual, always early and always the last person to leave the room.
- I totally hate mega-b***h** and stoopid bullies I always avoid them wherever possible.
- In school, I am always in the computer surfing the internet or playing some games, or if not I am studying in the library.
- I don't wear loud clothes. I wear more comfortable clothes even if it's out of fashion
- I hate books (really, I hate reading books unless they are required). I prefer japanese mangas and some comics (I don't like Marvel Comics that much though).
- I tutor people who don't listen in class, especially math and grammar, when they need me (they desperately need me when quiz and exams are ahead).
- When people piss me off, intentionally or jokingly, I look at them in the eyes and say some totally mean words until they shut up.
- When I am annoyed, I would scold the person making unnecessary noises.
- I often question authority (yes, authorities can be abusive when they want to).
- I am grouchy when I am not in the mood (the "leave-me-alone-and-don't-talk-to-me-so-mind-your-own-business" sign will just appear above my head for everybody to see).
- I often scold my groupmates, and even our leader, when they aren't efficient in doing group projects.

Subverted
02-09-2009, 04:06 AM
As I fit into the "INTJ", "teenage"(18), and "male" categories why not describe me...

- Always on time, the attention that being late brings is not something I like.
- I always slack off in classes, the only way I made it through HS was via independent study my senior year.
- My wardrobe consists of jeans and a grey, blue, or black t-shirt. The weather doesnt matter.
- Pathologic lying.
- I used my teachers and abused their compassion to pass.
- My fellow students knew when to steer clear and I was suspended for threatening another student.
- I corrected teachers on the most minor of their errors, but I let the immense ones fly.
- Always the smartest in the class.
- I get hung up on certain subjects or skills and dont move on till I have learned everything/can pass myself off as an expert.
- One or two friends, mostly people that I keep around in case I need something.
- A couple flings, but generally I am clueless with girls(and still a virgin).
- I avoid social activities at all costs.

Basically... like everyone has said, look for the person that corrects the teacher, hacks computers, has exceedingly obscure skills, and tries not to be noticed...at all. But realize going into it that the guy will probably have no idea what is going on with girls(and thus will have to be told flat out you want to be friends/more).

Night Knight
01-22-2010, 01:17 PM
Right now I'm age twenty so I'm not to far off from highschool.

Highschool days
-Always on time
-Follow Rules and Learn the Rules
-One of the Top ten students in academics (GPA)
-Most Valuable Player in Cross-country, great at mid-distance running (track), Varsity Tennis Player (I don't really like talking about profesional teams only olympic sports)
-Joined many clubs (honor societies, science club events, community service events, conferences, math events, mock trials, etc.)
-Attended school rallies even though i can skip them but do not attend dances.
-sometimes I attend sporting events such as football and basketball
-Never into parties and never attended unless it is a good friends birthday party (PG-13 with adult supervision)
-Only respect authority figures that do the right thing.
-Decent in drawing but still an amatuer
-Usually keep a nice type of attitude but keep a poker's face
-Above average fighting and shooting gamer (video games).

In highschool not to many people can put together that I'm good at sports and academics. They either think I am very intelligant or a decent runner but never together. Since not to many people know my talents I can move like the shadows. It is better this way because you do not get to much attention and can move easier.

rain
01-22-2010, 01:45 PM
When I was in high school:

1. I skipped most of my classes after sophomore year. I used to write my own notes to get out of classes but I still got straight A's. After I graduated, my high school made a new regulation that one couldn't miss more than 3 weeks of classes, otherwise the student would have to repeat the year.

2. I hardly ever studied but always did well on tests. The day before I had to an important final, I was tripping out on acid with my friends at a rave. I also wrote my final senior report in the very last week that we had half a year to get done. I got one of the top scores.

3. I was very stylish and wore a lot of tight fitting, midriff baring clothes and short shorts. I was in the drama club, mock trial, the tennis and swim teams.

4. Math and economics were my best subjects, and my worst subject was English lit. However, although I was terrible at analysing literature, especially books I found hideously boring, I was incredibly good at writing essays.

In retrospect, I think I could've done with two years of high school. 4 years of utter boredom were more than plenty.

Theaetetus
01-22-2010, 01:58 PM
- All Honors/AP classes, with a perfect GPA
- Combat boots, jeans, militaristic hair, and a shirt with absolutely no logos or emblems
- Extreme hatred for folks my age
- Expansive vocabulary, to the point of being near incomprehensible to the average dolt
- Few friends, all at least 3 years my senior
- Weary demeanor
- Several hundred book library
- No effort expended to form relationships, especially romantic ones, as I saw my peers to be too mentally undeveloped to keep up with me or even have a mature conversation. This was true.

Sxq
01-22-2010, 04:11 PM
When I was in high school:
-Absolutely normal looking
-Very quiet when not with friends
-Averagely extroverted if with friends
-Top marks in class
-Tendency to do or say weird things
-Really nerdy if you get to know me
-I also played almost every sport though... so that would probably throw off anyone who was looking for an INTJ
-Rarely initiated social contact with someone I didn't know, especially romantically
-Always hated English class, but was far more literate than most people. I read more than anyone I ever met in high school.
-Never studied, but still aced tests. Not to say that I didn't care about school - I did, a lot, but I just did the minimum amount of work needed to get into my choice of university.
-Never skipped class. If I was late it was probably because I went somewhere with friends over lunch.

rwm4768
01-22-2010, 04:19 PM
I'm currently a college sophomore, so hopefully I haven't forgotten too much of what I was like in high school.

For one, I took pretty much as many honors and AP classes as I could and got straight A's all the way through high school. I graduated number 1 in my class, but I didn't really receive much recognition from the school administrators until I was a senior. That was probably because I didn't get involved in any extracurricular activities until my junior year.

Overall, my main focus in high school was my grades. I didn't really care about forming any close relationships with people. That could also be because every good friend I had seemed to move far away.

I followed the rules almost all the time. However, that was more due to the fact that I saw no logic in getting in trouble and having to stay in detention after school. It's also a good idea to be the good kid because then nobody questions you when, for example, you walk around with no pass in the halls (only got stopped one time during my four years).

I was never late to class if I could help it, but I will admit that chemistry labs often contributed to tardiness. Moreover, I only skipped half of one class my entire high school career (and that was because my AP test finished halfway through the class, so I just decided to stay at lunch longer).

There is a lot more I could say, but I feel like I'm rambling on now.

AnnoyingPony
01-22-2010, 04:31 PM
When I was in school...

- I wore the same black fleece jacket day after day after day
- I did not make friends and avoided unknown people
- Still got perfect grades and a perfect GPA in Honors
- Tended to look down on everyone else and got angry when they didn't take their futures seriously
- Had no patience for small talk
- I only liked the teachers who didn't pull any bullshit on me
- I never joined any cliques or groups

Cygnus
01-22-2010, 04:34 PM
I am way too old to recall highschool with any clarity aside form a few memorable events. I was quiet and reserved, but polite. I struggled to gain a sense of self worth. Aside from that, it is kinda blurry. The benefit of age is you get to forget how messed up you were and instead get to be nostalgic :)

Billy Cox
01-23-2010, 08:29 AM
High school (early-late 1990's):

-Dressed in a very non-conformist, highly noticeable fashion (I kinda looked like the son of Humphrey Bogart had he impregnated a Lay-Z-Boy)
-Was absent half the time, opting instead to hitchhike around the continent whenever money permitted
-Hung out in a donut shop with friends most nights I was in town
-Always told by teachers to "put that book away and start learning"
-Often accused of plagiarism by teachers who did not have the intellectual wherewithal to make such accusations
-Still managed near-perfect grades in any subjects of interest, despite being a conspicuous absentee
-Earned Cs and Ds in subjects of zero interest
-Constantly smoked cigarettes and pot
-Drunk much of the time
-Pulled lots of crazy stunts (not for the attention it garnered, but rather to put smiles on people's faces)
-Constantly heard that I was "wasting my talent"
-Almost always reading or writing
-Almost everyone was a friendly acquaintance to me, but I had little use for all but a few
-Managed a used book store during my senior year. My boss and I were cut from the same cloth, so my schedule was flexible whenever the road beckoned me

Valiyn
01-23-2010, 09:00 AM
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aspen
01-23-2010, 12:16 PM
I'm 19 now, in my second semester of College.

Back in High School, I put in the least amount of effort to get the lowest B I could. Usually around 79.51 percent and up a bit. I made jokes in class, and was pretty extraverted when with friends, and usually I knew at least one person pretty well in my class.

Off periods though, or during lunch when everyone was away I'd hang out in the library just drawing(also drew a bunch in class. That's the number one way I met new people outside of my clique, when I asked if they had a red(or any other color) pen).
I'd walk around outside or though the halls. Our school was on a lake and is probably in one of the most beautiful locations for a highschool to be, so I'd listen to music walking around for an hour or so, or go for a drive.

JonD
01-23-2010, 08:37 PM
I don't think I conform to many here since I'm borderline I/E...

Highschool for me was...

- Halo LAN's with friends. Up to 16 sweaty teenagers packed into a basement.
- Starting to date. I knew I didn't have the social skills to meet girls that easily, so I befriended people that did, and became comfortable around them and asking them out over time.
- Arguing with parents. Boy did I think I was right all the time. I think I only won a couple arguments with my INTP father out of the thousand we had.
- Advanced classes in school. I took IB.
- Playing in a rock band, and learning through attrition I hated performing.
- Skipping class when I could get away with it. A lot of teachers liked me and gave me the "don't get caught" thing when they saw me in the halls.

Mandolin
01-24-2010, 04:23 PM
-Very manipulative. Given long enough I could have the other kids hating me, or all sitting around me.
-Very Sarcastic Witty style humor. Often found nerd related jokes much funnier than basically anyone else. :D
-Easily willing to debate a topic with basically anyone
-played music all the time
-When praised/scolded I tended to show nearly no emotion at all other than to give a basic "thank you" or "okay"
-Extremely dependent upon logical thought. If I couldn't comprehend any use for something I was overly quick to shun it... but I believe this is a common INTJ trait. This certainly didn't help me with my history grades. XD

Orpheus
01-25-2010, 04:29 PM
Currently a high school senior. Right now I tend more towards INxP, but I was very INTJ in my freshman/sophmore years, so I'll describe me then.

- On time for class, but never early
- Tried to sit as far away from the teacher as I could, so I could do what I felt was important
- Never paid attention in class, but generally got high A's without even trying
- Extremely quirky fashion sense; even with a school uniform I managed to stand out a bit
- Cracked sarcastic, witty jokes during class/assemblies
- Only classes that managed to hold my interest were literature, the sciences, and languages
- I managed to piss off plenty of people, made quite a lot of enemies; about half the people I knew hated my guts, while the other half essentially adored me
- Rarely went to dances/parties
- Talked about philosophical and esoteric stuff with the few N friends I could find
- Had a couple girlfriends, but they rarely lasted more than 4 months
- Anal retentive about some things, mostly grammar
- Absolutely hated giving in to authority. Quietly resisted it, and almost never got caught
- I could, as an acquaintance once described it, "verbally beat anyone's ass up and down the street", and have everyone else enjoy the show

Liason
01-25-2010, 05:04 PM
Punctual
Sleep deprived
Over achiever
The person sleeping in class after doing that test that will take another half hour or so for the rest of the class to finish ;]
Reading a book in the corner of the cafeteria

FTT11
01-25-2010, 08:48 PM
-I get all A's (save one B+ in sophomore English) taking the toughest curriculum possible.
-I don't try a whole lot. I really rely on memory to get me through everything.
-I'm never engaged in English (it's boring) or math (I already know it); I make up and solve my own problems instead.
-I'm typically pretty reserved unless I know what I'm talking about.
-I'm the president/captain of every academic club/team because quite frankly no one else is suited for the job. I'm on student council for similar reasons.
-I dress pretty low-key and comfortably: lots of solids, lots of darks, some graphics, no text on anything unless it's something I got from an event.
-I'm always tired because I spend the time I should spend sleeping online doing more interesting things
-I run cross country because I like the people on the team and I'm pretty decent; I swim because I'm good at it.
-I'm only close with a few people, and those people are really starting to irritate me. I kinda shifted social circles but I'm still on the outside because I don't have the extreme extroversion of most of the others in the group.
-I've never dated. Honestly I have more time-sensitive things to do than get emotionally involved with and have to commit time to someone right now.
-I play by the rules. I don't mind parties unless people are doing stupid/illegal stuff.
-I'm really laid back unless I'm in competition mode, in which case I become extremely driven.
-My sense of humor is pretty lacking.
-I'm more well-respected than well-liked.

Note: my I isn't all that strong.

Leneator
01-25-2010, 09:53 PM
Here is a description of my highschool years

First Half:
-Skinny.
-State Track.
-Long hair.
-No sense of fashion.
-Skipped classes as if it were a necessity.
-Always had a book on my hands.
-Sat in the center back, always.
-Eccentric.
-Quiet to some, Loud to others.
-Absolutely no HW.
-Left class early.
-Was always learning.

Second Half: (complete turnaround)
-Gained exponential amounts of strength, stronger than football players
-Great sense of fashion, meticulous about how I look
-Arrived late to classes
-Did all the work faster than everyone
-Left classes early
-Resourceful, had a messenger bag with laptop, external HDD (EDD), Ipod, Ipod cable, Usb cables, ethernet cable, 3-way splitter, 2 pairs of headphones, all notebooks, some classbooks, a book of my own, a dust cleaner, aux cable, wireless mouse, toothbrush, ping pong paddles, ping pong balls, a comb, and an extra shirt (I sweat).
-Massively skilled in many areas, but do not care to show
-Answer or lead if no one else can
-Physically intimidates the bullies
-Feared, Admired, etc...
-No girl approaches me (to my great dismay).
-Secretly goes to a hair salon and models.
-Stronger than 98% of the population.
-got straight A's.
-Quiet to most
-State Ping Pong player (national contender)
-Supposedly had no social network page, but secretly did
-hacked over 20 passwords, at least 5 of teachers
-Knew how to read people, great psychological and sociological abilities.
-Had only 1 "true friend"
-Had one girlfriend, didn't work.
-Was hired to do the work of others.
-Had over 15,000 songs and over 100 movies (most pirated).
-Took notes in 4 different colors.
-Didn't talk to girls as I should have.


So that's basically an overview, I am actually a senior right now, so I can recall my later high school years more precisely. But I do believe than an INTJ can hover between these two extremes. Basically look for someone that takes care of themselves, whether it be emotionally, physically, socially or intellectually.

Best of Luck

Geminii
01-27-2010, 04:35 AM
- Oblivious or very precisely controlled/intense social interaction; one extreme or the other
- In the library every spare moment at school, rarely goes out when at home
- Judges teachers on their teaching ability; gets irritated if they don't seem to measure up; may speak up or take other action if 'inadequate' education is being supplied
- May completely ignore all other students, as if they were a kind of vague noisy fog
- Memorising stuff, particularly science, mathematical, or practical, not required for the school curriculum
- Able to leap ahead in logic and pattern spotting
- Wearing either the precise school uniform or a personal wardrobe of their own devising which has nothing to do with current fashion
- Doing brilliantly in subjects which interest them, and not caring about grades for subjects which don't
- Often prefers one-person sports (or 1-on-1) than team sports
- Never lonely, even when by themselves
- If the class is uninteresting, and gives the opportunity to (a) show how good they are, and (b) prod the teacher by doing so, they'll be likely to
- Will be the one who laughs when the teacher makes an incredibly obscure or intellectual joke
- Will hold authority figures to the rules they say they're playing by, and will in some cases go out of their way to learn ALL the rules to be able to do this effectively
- Perfect attendance unless a given class is deemed a waste of time

JTG
01-27-2010, 05:25 PM
I was the guy in the back of the class who made little jokes under my breath. Only the people immediately next to me could hear, and i got more than a few looks from teachers when people laughed. I was never openly disruptive, only secretly so.

I didn't do homework. Ever. If i did an assignment it was either completed in class, before class, between classes, etc.

The only things that saved my grades were test scores. "If homework counts as 20% of the grade in a class, and i can do about half of it in class and maintain a 90% average on test scores, then i should be able to maintain a B with minimal effort" was pretty much my thought process.

On that note, grades didn't matter to me. I was barely in the top third of my class GPA-wise, but i was voted most intelligent AND i had only lived there for two years haha.

Most of my friends were fairly popular, but i shied away from the spotlight (i'm strongly introverted) I was polite and articulate, but not outgoing by any means. Never went to parties, only extracurriculars were band and wrestling... and i quit wrestling when the coach said i'd have to start skipping band practice to come to wrestling practice

My romantic life was non-existant. I was far too shy to talk to girls back then, haha. Only later when i realized that they're just people did i start to date. Seeing them as equals (instead of some foreign species) helped ease my apprehensions. Having female friends helped the transition.

Honestly, it sounds like you're in the same boat i was back then. I found the few girls who were ever into me in high school to be annoying and/or stupid and/or immature. Only after i got to college age did i start meeting girls i thought were attractive enough (on a personal level) to consider dating seriously.

I'm 26 now though, and still have yet to be in a longterm, committed relationship in the standard sense. I've dated here or there, and i have a few very very close female friends, but i've yet to find somebody who really excited me and wanted to date me and gave me enough personal space. All three are pretty much necessary in my eyes.

albi92
07-02-2010, 07:27 PM
Just graduated, I went to a small private Christian school and alot of us knew each other since Kindergarden and were close despite all of our obviously different personalities. We were all honest though and everyone got along well so I could say that I had a good social high school experience. Anyways...

- enjoyed learning and improving
- enjoyed playing sports for the thrill of adrenaline and intensity when the game gets really competitive
- wasn't too emotionally attached, never really felt lonely
- embraced the idea of slowing down, thinking and getting away from other people
- took a leadership role in projects when no one stepped up
- always had something to say, but often ended up not saying anything because it takes me quite some time to craft what I say, and by the time I have something good to say the topic changes, so I just refrain from saying anything at all
- avoided crowds
- tried to treat people equally without prejudice even if they didn't have a good reputation or they were annoying
- didn't have a girlfriend. Most of us weren't into the dating scene, although there was attractive girls in our school, we all were primarily focused on school, friends and our extra-cirricular activities that people were often passionate about. Never felt the emotional need for one.
- friendly, but made myself difficult to read

Fenrir
07-02-2010, 07:45 PM
I'm 19, male INTJ. Let's see, when I was in high school.

-Always early
-Always sitting around the quietest points in school listening to my iPod
-Didn't go out on group outings with class/fencing team
-Cutting PE(Physical Education/Gym) classes because that one hour was better spent catching up on sleep.
-Didn't talk to any girl in high school because herd mentality was prevalent in all of them.
-Moment school ended, I went straight home to practice guitar.
-Spoke up in class discussions but got shot down, especially when the discussion concerned politics and religion. Nobody valued freedom and democracy and everyone placed homogeneity over individual expression.

I had a really lousy high school experience that I try not to remember. Asia's particularly hard on INTJs, bastards.

Booko
07-02-2010, 08:00 PM
- quiet and unassuming
- not a clothes horse
- doesn't ogle at girls
- loves chess and anything strategic
- thinks reading a book on multivariable calculus is exciting
- teaches himself music theory and composition from his parents' old texts he dug out of a box
- after that teaches himself to play guitar well in one year. Thinks Tool is easy to play.
- relieves boredom in class by reading Canepari's tome on linguistics and emails the professor, who thinks he's talking to a grad student
- can be relied on to give a core dump of knowledge on several subjects when asked
- socializes in small groups of equally geeky people
- doesn't give a rat's ear what people think of him
- doesn't give a rip about sports or the prom
- talks to adults with more ease than those his own age
- tends to analyze everything...to death
- doesn't miss a thing going on around him

Yup, that was my son in HS.

He's got one year of undergrad left and hasn't changed much. Oh, except he actually fell in love with this girl -- who had just broke up with a friend of his and she came to him for a shoulder to cry on. He had no idea what to do. It was clear he'd never given any actual thought to mundane stuff like...romantic relationships? It's a good thing he and his little sister get along as well as they do. I trust her to give him sound advice on stuff like...girls.

I hear on this trip to Japan he took a weekend trip with another student who wanted to travel but not by herself.

Oh I can't wait to hear how that went. *chuckle*

---------- Post added 07-02-2010 at 11:03 PM ----------

I had a really lousy high school experience that I try not to remember.

Oh yeah, I forgot this one.

My son too.

I'm not male or teenage, but myself, I couldn't wait to get out of HS either. It was mental, emotional and social torture. And boring as hell.

Asia's particularly hard on INTJs, bastards.

In what way?

Eye on Earth
07-05-2010, 04:57 AM
Still in high school myself, I find that its impossible for me to really connect with anyone. I have never had a romantic relationship with any guy. Maybe its just the intj in me that completely makes me shy away from everyone.

Can someone please describe the intj teenage male? Maybe past experiences from when you were younger, or something like that? I think that maybe meeting someone more like me would really help.

Haha...he's male and doesn't quite realize it yet because his brain is on overdrive most of the time. Whereas his "Extraverted" buddies are all out playing sports and liking it, the INTJ teenage male is just starting to internalize his thoughts and processes, so he gets more of a kick from mental/solo activities. He's busy revving up his brain, not his dating skills.

The real question here is not one of identifying your perfect match, but rather challenging your perspective that you must become romantically involved with someone right now. Yes, your hormones are probably raging and you want to score. Guess what, you have plenty of time. Don't rush into it. Your strength is in being able to plan for the future. Take some time to realistically determine what your real long term goals are and when you do that you might find that becomng romantically involved right now might carry some really negative risks that would knock all your plans out of whack.

Last thought - an ESFP is not what you need right now. Seek out a different type.

Blacklotus
07-13-2010, 01:00 PM
Reply:

Socially:

-Usually sought solace in the library but eventually found a social circle and stopped hanging inside the library and instead was outside the library playing cards and Magic the Gathering.
-Found it hard to "click" with people, usually I was pretty socially awkward but I forcibly change this aspect
-Became part of/or formed a social circle which consisted of the most unpopular/geeks/unsociable/individualist kids in school, and then became the social glue of that group.
-Always talked and debated about Neon genesis Evangelion (Anime), religion (Christianity, Islam), philosophy, Computers and Computer games, Magic the Gathering (Card game) etc.
-Took up street basketball, and strove to apply my perfectionist drive towards making myself, and to an extent my friends, utter gods on the court (of course this didn't occur).
-Thought the best use of free time was to optimize my Deus Ex or Baulder's gate or Neverwinter Nights Character/s Counter Strike and Starcraft game experience.
-I was friendly towards everyone, but then I read Dale Carnegie's "How to make friends and influence people" and decided to experiment on people in high school and to meet my set goal of improving my sociability.
-Hence, girls thought I was interested in them but they never knew I was just practicing what I read and thus meeting my goal.
-Did not romantically get involved with anyone, rejected a few girls. Told them that I was interested but high school wasn't the right time or place.
-Didn't really care what people thought of me and didn't really care about anyone other than my circle of friends
-lastly, only got indignant around bullies and tried my best to help out the victims

Academically

-Tried to be on time, but not punctual socially (my friends would always complain)
-Got on well with teachers
-Was really lazy and wouldn't do homework
-Crammed all my tests a day or two before
-Crammed my assignments a day or two before however this is due to careful planning and research which meant materializing and summarizing the assignment proved to be haphazard (grammar anyone?)
-Sat in the back of the class, always knew the answers but never volunteered.
-Took an avid interest in Philosophy/Logic, Economics, Law, Biology Class. But learned subjects at own pace not the class's pace.
-Took control of the project when everyone else could not step up
-Although lazy and disinterested, I achieved high academically and went onward to study at Uni with minimal effort for maximum gain.
-Natural leader but never showed an interest in the leadership positions available

Personally:

-Always felt highschool was a staging area of my life, and felt there were better things to learn and do outside of high school. I was frustrated and impatient waiting for High school to end.
-Never felt lonely, or emotionally connected to anyone.
-Always analyzing, planning and applying various projects I concoct in my mind,
-Always looking to self improve, setting and achieving internal goals.
-Self confident but not arrogant, and was considered above average looking and a "catch", meh.

Edit:

I just realized, I answered the topic wrong! The topic is "Describe the INTJ male teenager" and not "What were you like in high school"!
Summary: A INTJ male teenager did what ever the hell he wanted and took pride in being an individual.

Leg
07-13-2010, 04:18 PM
If somebody had met me during those years probably I would had appear to him like:

always late
daydreaming
black or dark green clothes
silent and quiet
didn't like sport
very long or very short hair
beard
listening to prog metal
not many friends or acquaintances

that's just the "superficial side"

Gobbbler
07-13-2010, 10:45 PM
A lot of the previous descriptions fit me, so I won't reiterate them. Two things I don't recall seeing often:
One, I did very well when engaged by a challenging class that with complex subject matter, but was very often disengaged and bored in easier classes or rote memory classes, thus got with lower grades - although these were really just borderline A's. In middle school though I got A's in almost every class, I failed penmanship, typing, and got D's and C's in Spanish (you don't learn foreign vocab without studying). People who didn't have the right classes with me were surprised to know I was "that smart".

Two, I was actually in sports. Don't know why. I was naturally good at them. I choose ones I liked more than ones I was good at though. I was reluctant to engage in most other clubs or activities though.

Overall, I would maybe look for someone who seems practical, reasonable, and dependable, but seems to have a stubborn streak. They're also probably very bright. The hard part is finding them because I know I didn't advertise who I was or seek attention nearly as much as other high school boys.

Commissar
07-14-2010, 01:24 AM
19 years old, and my highschool experience:

-wore whatever was comfortable/available
-hated the "stand up and introduce yourself/tell us your hobby" game
-had a small circle of friends I would talk to, and if they were gone (during lunch) I would go to the library and read
-I was usually either on time to my classes or just a minute or two late
-I would usually spend every free minute in class reading
-I did whatever it took to go unnoticed by my peers
-skipped any pep rally I could
-was by far the best reader when we would read out loud in class
-also, was extremely irritated when people pronounced words wrong or had to actually sound out a word out loud to understand it...ugh, read a f-ing book sometime
-had mostly good grades, but sometimes just didn't feel like doing homework so grades sometimes slipped (though I admit I've usually had a lot of trouble with math)
-most people either completely ignored me or would ask me "why [I'm] so quiet"
-never went to a single dance/social function, and even skipped sober grad night
-was often singled out in class because of exceptional grades/abilities in class (which I hated)

Also, on a side note, I once aced a specific test in my government class, to which I was invited to take a visit to the C-SPAN bus and meet the mayor (which was awkward for me)

jonnyb
07-14-2010, 11:47 PM
hmm..

- Smoked cigs between classes.....check
- drank 50/50 screwdrivers in class....um..carried mini bottles of Jack Daniels o/w .....check
- zoned out teacher while sitting in the back .....check
- subtly vilified teacher if he/she tried to make an ass of me for not paying attention.....check
- made grammatical corrections to English teacher's handouts and handed them back in with red pen marks...Didn't care to aknowledge teacher.
- spent my whole time making countless lists in a spiral notebook (it's how I think).....check
- gave the you-will-die look to any idiot who tried sitting next to me.....check
- acted as if the rules in the class didn't exist and played stupid when reprimanded.....check
- was constantly eating something.....check
- usually had a few ES cocksucking wannabes who incessantly followed me around asking me to teach them my ways so they could be my proteges.....not-check. Avoided them too
- I bullied bullies.....check
- I was varsity in every sport I did, but refused to do anything with "the team".....not-check...avoided sports and those who played them like plague
- i spent too much time planning what i was going to do and not enough time doing.....check
- had a backpack with every book known to man, a laptop, tooth brush, notebooks, face lotion, and everything else possibly imaginable.....Leaned toward white elephants in my car in the parking lot with snow covering all the windows
- I'm told that I had a perpetual smirk.....check
- I skipped three graduations in four years (including my own).....Skipped 90% of classes and still got Bs
- I chain dated entire groups of best friends, usually leaving them hating one another and still adoring asshole me.....dated one girl in high school for only one date
- i'd be able to change my voice tone, most facial expressions and so forth, but my eyes were always completely flat.....check
- i didn't sleep enough and usually looked hungover.....check
- when i was writing or reading something and people would ask what I was doing I'd just say "nothing" or blow them off without disguising it.....check
- I habitually go to movies, dinners, theme parks, and so forth by myself, and am not bothered by it at all.....check
- I always sat in the back close to a door or against a wall.....check
- i'd be pleasant, courteous, and sincere with people until they royally pissed me off... and then i'd start acting very pleasantly, smile, get inside their personal space, and scare the living shit out of them with my very convincing psychopath act.....Stayed away from most people
- in the cafeteria I'd sit in the area of the room where my current exploit/fuckbuddy/girlfriend/dickwhip would be least likely to track me down, and move all the chairs away from my table so people wouldn't sit by me.....Refer to white elephants
- i dressed well, but not flamboyantly and was very anal-retentive about how everything fit.....Wranglers, t-shirt and hat
- think I brushed my teeth 6 times a day or something.....maybe that many times a week
- I seemed like the most straight edge guy in the school so the RAs had no clue I was a tobacco and alcohol tycoon.....Supplied the black market of tobacco and alcohol during high school as I looked much older. Often had kids shut up and sit quietly when I walked into class late and the teacher wasn't there yet. They thought I was the teacher, at least for a few days
- i hated all mandatory events like games, assemblies, pep rallies, floor meetings, etc......check
- i had 1-2 actual friends at a time.. either ENTP ENFP INTP or INTJ who I'd exchange esoteric remarks with over the heads of my pathetic entourage.....check, except I didn't know anything about types then.

Always look for the guys who don't give a fuck about class but are able to pull off good grades and who are constantly in trouble. High school is regimented around the least common denominator of a student and therefore cake-walk to an INTJ. Oh, I purposely read like a im·be·cile outloud by sounding words out, syllabising and replacing words with different ones spelled very similar. My favorite was replacing oragnism with orgasm.

lebronsucks
09-02-2010, 09:35 AM
I recently finished coasting through high school using the internet.
I had many friends (none were close).
never late to class and rarely if I didn't want to be there I just never showed up.
teachers were afraid of me because of an indecent where a teacher tried to peel my finger off a mouse and I jumped up and elbowed him in the face.
I played a lot of sports but not on any teams besides basketball (because they let me hog the ball)
But like everybody else said I also always pay attention in class but only answer questions when nobody else can.
Was competitive in everything

Vulkan
09-02-2010, 11:32 AM
Ah, me in High School.

-Dressed to inspire fear among all.
-Death Stare prevalent.
-Enjoyed lighting desk on fire when the teacher wasn't looking.
-Passed all my classes even though I was absent for 3/4 of the time.
-Anti-bully, a result of my reputation and what happened to the last guy that tried to bully me in grade school.
-Reputation... let's just say my nickname was "killer", people cleared the hall when I walked through, in between classes.
-Complete lack of interest in school in general, boring as hell.

Of course, I think I was a rather screwy INTJ, comes with growing up in a dysfunctional family. ;)

larrysb
09-02-2010, 10:52 PM
Fit in with the misfits. Wasn't a "kicker" (cowboy), "jock" or a "gel" (doper). Didn't fit in, so I hung with the other misfits.

Exceedingly smart, but not a distinguished student. Then again, where I went to school, vocational welding was the class with a waiting list to get into.

Slept in geometry and advanced placement math classes, yet aced them. Stopped taking them when the district where I went to school in lost their math accreditation. Sigh. Junior college summer semester, here I come.

Walked around with a scowl, very misunderstood but not self-destructive. People avoided me for the most part.

Skipped PE as much as possible. Just kept a low profile.

Of course, that was almost 30 years ago.

Damn, I'm old.

AngryGroceries
09-02-2010, 11:55 PM
Hmm.

The easiest way to pick me out of all the students in the school would be to look for the fastest walker.

I was usually alone, or if I was in a group I'd not be engaging in conversation and I'd often just be sitting at the side doing my own thing.

Master Remos
09-03-2010, 04:54 PM
I had three stages during school years.

First stage - The Dark Ages:



Didn't care about my clothes style. I wore same clothes two years in a row.
Personal hygiene sucked. I washed my hair only once during one of these years. Teeth were decaying.
Yu-Gi-Oh, Magic the Gathering, Duel Masters, Bedamon, Spinner, Bionicle, Pokemon and everything else similar.
Free time was spent either in library or reading in class.
Didn't care about opinions others had (deep inside I cared).
I was fat.
Had only one friend
I was good in every subject.
I did my homework last possible moment before every lesson.
Always quiet and shy.


Second stage - The Revolution:


I developed my own personal style of clothing. I always wear white shoes, sandals, boots, sneakers etc...
I cared what others think about me.
I used self-help guides to make myself more successful in whatever it was.
Became more popular.
Studied to use the potential fully in my advance.
I was muscular.
I was very good in karate.
I was very good in nearly all ball games (if anybody just could pass the ball to me:().
I talked to everyone with great confidence whoever he/she was.
Some called me faker and some called me individualist.
I developed an eeeevil mood. Not angry but eeevil. Evilness was driven by creepy music I listened.
I sucked at chess, but I were very good in other strategy games like Total War Series.
I was usually the one lurking alone through schools halls or with group and listening.
I never feared to take the credit for anything.
When no one answered I answered to teacher as I already knew all the basic stuff in lessons.
I was newer late to lessons.
I was polite in my own weird way.

Indefinable
09-03-2010, 05:33 PM
-Stuck quiet about my personal life
-Was on my best behavior throughout high school
-I was a group hopper
-Disrupted social cliques and made them hate each other
-I had 1 best friend prior to attending high school
-No one has ever seen me rage except for my best friend
-People didn't take me seriously
-Hung around the smoker kids and smoked marijuana/did ecstasy in the senior years.
-I was paranoid with everything, or so I thought I was
-Always nervous, with biting my lips or the insides of my mouth
-2 emotions ever seen in high school: Flat, or laughing like crazy
-Never late
-Somewhat scrawny
-Danced
-Produced amateur electronic music
-Researched things that interested me the most
-Did poorly in school after grade 9 when I saw that school wasn't the best way for me to learn
-Did well in applied courses such as automotives, metalworks, music composition
-I was fairly popular, but just a superficial popular. Never made any real friends
-I was in a depressed stage back in grades 9-11; probably the reason why I turned to self-help medication
-Smoking marijuana helped me realize my destiny and myself, causing me to be successful in the graduating year

I remember when people found out I did illegal things, they were either cool with it or hated me for it. But heck, my fuel isn't on other's emotions. I couldn't care less about what other people said about me because I liked the way I was, and still do. :)

Brutus
01-04-2011, 10:02 PM
Im 18 in highschool...

-walk fast to class, dont socialize between classes
-agonizingly sit at a crowded lunch table and interact with all the potheads and losers, (the "cool" kids) but sometimes ill sit with nerdier or wierder kids, which isnt much more comforting as most dont know what a vagaina is.
-Im dressed much better than the average male, even older ones in a career.
-force myself to be an extravert in order to hook up with girls.
-I enjoy going to parties b/c it means ill usually get ass, but always find myself thinking id rather be somewhere else...
-Go to the gym everyday, and surf, snowboard, box, and do other "loner" type sports outside on the weekends, sometimes alone in order to get away from things or with a very close friend.


If there is one thing that I would recomend to any INTJ in highschool, it would be to work on your extraversion, and interact with people. You can always go off and be alone when you want to be, but when you feel like going out or getting some ass, it really helps to have a "friend" base built up. "Friend" = losers, tools, potheads, naughty girls ;) IE, people you dont care about but they come in handy. Besides, networking is always a good thing.

VRG
01-05-2011, 03:48 PM
I'm from continental Europe so high school is a somewhat different system, but I guess the same basics for behavior apply anyway, so here we go:

First half (age 13-15)
- horrible fashion sense, weird combinations, clothes too big etc
- always getting good grades, minimal effort, very intelligent
- very few friends (no girls, although there was one girl in my first year that sat behind me who liked me very much and I liked her, but nothing happened), no girlfriends though I wanted one
- always on time
- no smoking or any of those other experimenal grown-up things that most SP's start doing at that time
- quiet, hated being the center of attention, sit as far away form the teacher as my social status would allow (the back being taken by the popular bullies, so the middle was no option, so it was three lines or so from the middle in the row furthest away from the teacher)
- bullied, though only on occasion, because I would show little reaction so not that interesting
- hard-headed, did not want to back down from my own principles, even if this meant it would make things more difficult for me. This resulted in the occasional "brave" behavior, while it actually was just stubbornness lol. For instance, one day a bully was picking on one of my friends and I stood pretty close, the bully wanted to kick my friend but hit me, I kicked back, discussion followed, saved by the bell, bully said he was going to kick my ass after school, I said I accepted the challenge but only if it would be a fair fight, which he accepted. My classmates were sure I was going to get it because he was stronger and supposedly did some martial arts. I had seen quite a lot of fighting movies and knew I was quick in both thinking and reaction and I did not want him chasing after me for the rest of the year, so I took my chances and kicked the shit out of him hehe, The best thing is that I led him attack first, to make him underestimate me and to weaken his defense, but also to unleash my inner fury, and because of this when we were finally pulled away from eachother by a teacher he was punished for starting the fight and I got off the hook completely :bandana:
- when we had breaks in between classes I could usually be found at a computer, playing games or checking stocks (still a hobby of mine). This was also my favorite past time outside of school, be it alone or with a friend.
- Only answer questions when directly asked by the teacher, or when no one answers the question and there is an uncomfortable silence in the class because the teacher will wait for someone to raise their hand. That someone would usually be me.

Second part (16-19)
I had decided I needed to fit it better, so I started to develop my social skills and those associated with it. I also became more and more anti-authority; not to be rebellious as a cause in itself, but only if they tried to limit my freedom. Other than that I mostly stayed the same, besides normal development.
- my fashion sense was way better, though still not very much in tune with my peers. It actually looked pretty good, but people thought it was over-thought/ gay. Still, it was better than what it was before hehe.
- reasonable grades with no effort whatsoever (you don't need good grades to be accepted into university where I live, so I figured why bother). I read the books about subjects I thought were interesting at the beginning of the year, then I basically would not look in them anymore until we had to prepare for the tests, which for me was opening and reading the text the night before. I never made homework, nor did any of the assignments while in class if I could help it. Instead I talked and played games with my friends, or was drawing. I got my highest grades when we had a test that was hard or impossible to study for and where you had to rely on intelligence. I was always the best or second best in these. While my grades where usually average or even far below average, occasionally there would be a spike up if I needed it to go to the next year. For instance for France, I always got 2's, 3's, or 4's, but at one point I needed to up my average so I actually studied for a test, which resulted in the highest grade of the class, a 9.3 (scale 1-10 btw). The look on the teachers face when he handed me the result was priceless lol :p
- still not very talkative with people I did not know, but better at in than first. There was no one bullying me anymore so I could sit anywhere I wanted, and my choice was in the opposite corner from the teacher, e.a. again as far away as possible.
- the teachers that understood I was very intelligent and would get good grades anyway basically let me be, unless I was bothering the rest of the class (which rarely happened), and would thus have a good relationship with me and usually quite like me. Those who did not and insisted I made my homework/ paid attention/ etc, with them I would act very arrogant, resisting them in whatever way I could think of. They hated me and I hated them.
- I was still never late, unless we would be with a group of people that was too late. I hated the attention of coming in late somewhere (still do), and usually I just skipped the classes I knew I was going to be late for. Actually, I skipped a lot of classes, even days in a row, because I was bored out of my mind. Instead I preferred to work in the local supermarket, and I just wrote all the notes to school myself. I actually did whatever I could to not have to go to school but still be able to graduate, including writing a letter to the principal arguing why I did not have to be in class :). It almost worked, if only it hadn't been for the co-principal who happened to be my math teacher and we hated each others guts...
- I had a group of friends, consisting of a bunch of different people, some popular others not so. I unfortunately was still mostly in the latter category, but at least I was making progress and at some point I got invited to most parties, which was my goal and which I usually liked. I even made some female friends, but still no girlfriends, even though I had some crushes and would really have liked a girlfriend. Not much has changed :rolleyes:
- I did everything that "God forbids": smoking, drinking, drugs, though no abuse of any of them, just recreational and whenever I wanted and could get away with it (no punishment, other than a tirade). Oh but of course no sex hehe
- no respect for any authority, very independent. Everyone who tried to control me would be met with a wall of resistance and resentment, this includes both teachers and parents.
- I could still be found behind a computer whenever there was an opportunity.
- I tore everyone to pieces if we had a discussion, especially if it was an assignment to discuss a subject or to take a certain viewpoint and defend it. Nothing personal, just ice-cold logic being unleashed on your ass :devilish:. Had very good grades in debating :)

To make a long story short: I hated high school and was bored out of my mind, the only thing that kept it bearable was having fun with friends.

SirJamesIII
01-05-2011, 07:27 PM
Still in high school here:

Respected. Not disliked by anyone.

Not a troublemaker. I still technically smoke pot and break school rules in that sense, but nothing close to what the kids who get in trouble do.

As I got older, the groups of friends I had moved on. I don't have as tight friendships as I used to have.

I refuse to do any activities suggested by the school. I do my own thing. I play my own sports on my own time.

I've been an honors student for my whole high school career thus far.

Never had a bad relationship with a teacher.

I've been told by my classmates that I'm usually the only one who understands the concepts that the teacher is teaching us. Teachers and I often get in tangents while leaving the class behind in confusion.

I don't study for tests all that much. I have a photographic memory and it helps.

I wander a lot. Since I don't have a group of friends, I just talk to anyone who talks to me.

Not nearly as horny as other teenage boys.

I read, but I'm secret about it. I think I'm kind of nerdy, but no one knows.

I don't think I really like anyone all that much at school. I tend to relate to people who are older than me, but they are all sophomores and juniors in college now, so I don't see them.

It seems that people only talk about trivial things.

I don't get stressed out as much as other people.

I'm in the gym a lot. No reason other than to improve myself and to not feel guilty about being lazy.

I seem to attract strange girls. This is partly due to the fact that most people in my school are strange.

I'm a prepster in a sea of hipsters.

I play guitar most of the time. I'm very good at it. However most people don't even know I play the instrument. Those who do don't understand why I take lessons.

I don't have that much fun.

Willem
01-06-2011, 12:45 PM
I am 18 y/o now. Just graduated

Me in high school:
-Never late
-Perfectly civil/the PERFECT student to the teachers i respected, and completely irreverent and an asshole to the teachers who I knew more than/didn't respect.
-smoked like a chimney/chewed, drank gin and tonics in between classes. Because I was in the top 3 students in my grade no one suspected I was like this.
-I was top of my grade in History, economics, german and aced math, and english in grade 12. I almost never did homework (except in Math because I saw a use in it) and only did tests. I failed chem because I hated the subject and read in the back of the class.
-A solid majority of the girls adored me/liked me because I just didn't care. I used to get drunk at parties and cut my hair with scissors and fight people because I thought it was funny. The girls liked I think that I was the smartest kid but good-looking and maybe badass or something although with hindsight I think it was stupid. Despite this I never had a girlfriend because I had no experience and felt like I had no control. I would occasionally have f-buddies of girls who threw themselves at me but no more.
-I had a great patience for the dumber people/uncooler people for some reason and actually enjoyed being around them. I would like intellectually humiliate anyone that tried to pick on them.
-quite popular but very reserved in 1-1 convo with people i didn't know well.
-I would get up and do most of the speeches for my school, 20 minute things for alumni, chapel, etc. with no problem I actually liked it but would become very uncomfortable when people tried to talk to me 1-1 afterwards.
-hated school and learned most of what I know at home.

zibber
01-06-2011, 12:46 PM
Pasty little jackoff with awesome grades.

Venom
01-06-2011, 03:22 PM
INTJ high schooler male right here.

-Grades aren't even close to the best, yet I understand the concepts taught to me almost instantly and can work them with ease. My lack of effort or remote care for anything in that place, though, leaves me the grades I have.
-Very creative when given little projects, yet disgruntled when I am told that I "have to be creative". No, I don't HAVE to be, leave me alone.
-I go to school in dress shirts every day with the occassional tie. Actually started a bit of a trend, I think, with people who are closer to me.
-Distrusting of most people.
-Relatively quiet, but when around certain people I can be outspoken.
-Walk alone in the halls.
-Generally well-liked by most, but a few absolutely despise me. Can't be bothered to care.
-By myself after-school. Parents get concerned, friends and acquantinces think it's weird, but I just like my own company.
-I have had plenty of romantic interests before and currently. Got out of one in late September because the girl thought I wasn't "boyfriend material", and rather we were just "friends with a name". Whatever that means. Only two girls I have actually cared about.
-Narcisstic or very close to it. I most certainly do not see peers as my equals.
-Aspiring creative writer, but other fields fascinate me as well. Even the military, to my shock. I was actually considering joining the Marines.
-Drawn to the ocean and all things nautical incredibly, even though I live a good two-hour drive from it.
-Cars are a waste of time to me.

Overall, if you're looking for an INTJ male to be with, go for the ones who seem depressed. Truth is; they actually aren't. Most of the time, if they are INTJ, they're just deep in thought.

And, yes...unfortunately, I am the only INTJ I know.

OJIScudbone
01-06-2011, 09:44 PM
Loner throughout despite being involved in many teams and clubs: track, football, rugby, debate team, chess club, and model U.N.

None of the classes were challenging, and I considered them a waste of time.

Skipped all student gatherings despite mandatory pep rallies / events with the team I was participating on.

Considered the majority of the faculty and student body to be incompetent.

I abhorred when students tried to showout and disrespect the teacher or other students, and would verbally put them in their place.

First to arrive and leave class.

Stayed in the library or my car at lunch.

Had many chances to date the stereotypical "popular girls", but disregarded them for that reason.

I hated high school, and was happy to graduate in December of my senior year.

NoMicro
07-11-2011, 12:05 PM
-I would walk into class late once a week, and for 50 minutes finish the work that had been handed out throughout the week. Then leave when I was done.
-Usually with one or two other people.
-In the back of the class, head on desk.
-Very judging. I would see who someone was trying to be.
-Smoked a lot of weed/Drank
-Very blunt with teachers/ other students.
-Very simple clothes that didn't stick out in any way.
-Tried to blend in, and not be noticed.
-Never went to a student gathering.
-I knew Highschool relationships were staying in highschool. ;)
-Was well respected by all the cliques.

babsa
07-11-2011, 05:40 PM
Quiet
Draw no attention to myself
Performed poorly in almost every class, unless the teacher was actually worth his/her paycheck
Never did homework
Spent a lot of time in the library
Dressed in a very limited selection of clothes that were not flashy at all
Walked really fast through crowds of people or avoided them completely

Honestly though, i think that most INTJ's in their youth are very arrogant and need a lot of time before they mellow out.

WindUp
07-11-2011, 06:15 PM
-Quiet and avoided the spotlight at all costs.
-Skipped class occasionally.
-Hung out with the other nerds and some of the weirder people in school.
-Slept whenever possible. Almost all of my mornings were spent sleeping.
-Was put in the limelight on occasion because I would often outperform everybody who was taking the same class as me (ex: Turned in the best paper or had the best test score out of everyone in AP US History...).
-Terrible at sports until junior year.
-Experimental fashion sense (read: sometimes terrible).
-Everyone thought (correctly) that I was gay. I had only one relationship that lasted a month with a girl who went to another school in high school. Supposedly, I was considered attractive though only ugly girls ever let me know.
-Extremely judgmental of others who didn't have some semblance of a brain.
-Did not respect authority, but never undermined it because it seemed too troublesome.
-Read in public.
-Would miss as many assignments as I possibly could to get a grade I deemed satisfactory.
-Procrastinated... A LOT.

g20
07-11-2011, 06:19 PM
been a few years, ok more than a few.

usually I was in an "altered" state of mind. slept through class, still pulled a 3.6, sometimes wake up long enough to ask a couple of questions solely intended to derail the lecture. couldn't make me (and several friends) stop skating on campus nor could they confiscate our boards, just confused the hell out of them when they demanded the board and got a "why?" and then a "not unless you give $100 for a new one".

they all knew I was up to something but could never catch me. it was fun.

fishphlem
07-12-2011, 08:39 AM
Confused, quiet, misunderstood. I spent too much time my first couple years not really paying attention to myself. I played too much video games, mostly to escape. Long awful hair, acne, with terribly baggy clothes.
I had a couple good friends, one an ENTJ. I played in marching band, jazz band, and concert band, so I did kind of have a place to fall into though.
I had heard so many different interpretations of what people thought I was like. My junior year, I started talking to a girl ENFP (in a different social class entirely), but mostly by texting. We could talk to eachother about absolutely anything. It was kind of stupid when we would be talking about such deep stuff, while at the same time, she had a boyfriend that could 'never understand or appreciate what we were talking about'. I was otherwise quite seemingly socially awkward, and didn't really understand people, but she was able to make me come out of my shell in a way, and it was nice to have someone to talk to so much. Anyways, she's really pretty, does well in school, but is also quite immature. We are still friends, apparently -- we just kind of talked recently, after not really talking for about a year, due to some ridiculous situation with one of her boyfriends that was happening that caused me to stop talking to her, voluntarily. It often seems like there is a lot of trust between us, and I think that if she was more mature then I would say it might be worth it now to try initiating a hang out session to see what it would be like.
I'm now going to be a sophomore in college, and I think that after seeing and understanding how I've matured and started putting effort into my appearance, how several of her immature friends (and ex-boyfriends) from high school will hit dead ends after HS, and she'll continue on to a better college, she could easily mature a lot in the next couple years. She'll be a senior in high school now.
I don't know if I would ever even initiate us hanging out again, but I think that if I did, and we discovered we really like each other, I think our long term friendship would have been a good base for a relationship, and given that she would be more mature then, it might be interesting.
Each year in high school I did consistently better school work. My senior year I was getting most all As in my classes, and I never got any form of senioritis. I believe my gpa's per year went like this: freshman: 2.9, soph: 3.1, junior: 3.3, senior: 3.7
That was my high school experience.

Also, I'll add that I got most all As my freshman year in college.

RandomWalker
07-13-2011, 01:48 AM
19 now so HS wasn't too far back...

- Know it all: Doodle, write exactly what teacher put down then tune her out and right back to doodling. I'd really teach it to myself better later in my free time. All Honors and AP, perfect GPA.

-Ambitious: I worked, did Student council, track, NHS, mock UN, and other random clubs.

- I was reserved and friends with everyone but never got close to anyone really.

- People would say I'm humble, but really I'm so arrogant I don't even feel I needed to brag about things like grades or excelling at a sport, I was just so used to being good at everything it wasn't even a big deal. Also I was just really indifferent about a lot of things (heck was...I still am haha).

- No relationships in hs

- Walked fast to classes

- Dressed usually in normal t shirt and jeans. I really didn't try that hard to impress.

- I felt like I grew up faster than my peers in the things I cared about and kind of knew I had different personality from early on.

Eudoxus
07-13-2011, 04:38 AM
Fascinating. I always wondered if some people bullied bullies. I always thought I would have done that if I hadn't skipped high school.

So cool to know that it is a shared trait in the INTJ world.


Several INTJ's here do not sound introverted at all though...

Tactical Panda
07-13-2011, 05:50 AM
Tall and pale with dark hair, an intimidating build and a dark school blazer uniform.
I didn't do drugs but loved informal debates. I would spend boring clases up the back debating religion.
Walked quickly between classes and didn't see the point in smalltalk.
Enjoyed roman rings in gymnastics, fencing, cards and playing acoustic guitar.
Was on good terms with most of the witty teachers.
Kept attracting the wrong people to hang out with - boring tough-guy types or sycophant dorks. It use to make me sad - it was completely the wrong crowd.
Tried to overkill projects to get high grades - didn't focus much on the rest of life. It felt like each year I was getting weaker and dumber, burning away all my energy to get a high score... needed to get out of that place.

AussieHarvey
08-13-2011, 06:32 PM
I'm still in High School also, so maybe I can help you.
Never started the conversation, but if talked to, I will either ignore or politely answer and go back to what i was doing.
Have only 2 really good freinds, and 2 good friends, practically know everyone but the other are just acquaintances who think that im a freind.
Sits in the back of the class.
Only showed emotion when my favorite topic was discussed, ex. History or English.
Apparently somehow became known for for giving advice and being the go to guy for English and History or theoretical questions, don't have any freakin idea they found out.
Never ever went to a High School event, too crowded.
HATED beyong reason Pep Rallies, don't even get me started.
Arrived early because, what the hell, i wasnt doing anything else but thinking, might as well think and get a grade.

MusicalINTJ
08-13-2011, 06:46 PM
I can describe myself.

I had rubbish social skills. I would occasionally act outlandish and bold and hope people would accept me for that. If they didn't, I would turn against them.

I did a lot of drugs and drinking. I'd skip school often and I was usually stoned.

In middle school, I was rubbish with ladies. Most of the cutest ones wanted to date me, but our "relationship" was a joke.

In high school, I had my first sexual experiences. They were awkward and filled with misunderstanding. One girl had lost her phone that night. So when I didn't call her, it was because her phone was missing for a few days. I never spoke to her again. So from there, she accused me of "using" her. I had no idea what she was talking about.

I had very few friends. I didn't fit in with anyone type of group.

I was a lone ranger/madman/egocentric douche. With a lot of creativity.

One time I tried to start a protest.

Crowley
08-14-2011, 04:34 AM
That guy with few to no friends
That guy who sat towards the back corner of the room
That guy who'd sleep in class almost every day
That guy who never did his homework and made terrible grades
That guy who had no problem with wearing the same clothes with holes in them
That guy who looked like he was going to bring a gun to school and start popping people off
That guy who switched between superiority and inferiority complexes like a stoplight

At least it was like this according to me
I wouldn't do it again.

ollin24
08-14-2011, 05:59 PM
HS

- I looked like Tom Chaplin
- Always made it in class the last minute
- Often slept during lectures, never did homework, almost Aced every test in all my subs.
- Befriended the strictest teachers
- Often slept in the senior garden
- avoided confrontations
- In groups, people would automatically assign me as a group leader
- I often debated (I was notorious to the school's debate team)
- Over-prepared with my thoughts
- In my senior year, I was known as the greatest fine artist at school.
- I was very quiet because I was very uninterested in my school.
- Fast walker
- Wasn't very graceful at P.E, only sports I was good at was soccer, volleyball and football
- When I upset I had a "murderous aura"
- At home, I was very depressed about the world and myself (I secluded myself a lot)
- I finished HS through Independent study (I had no interest on the graduation ritual)
- I did everything quietly and deceptively

static
08-14-2011, 07:42 PM
Lets see, high school?

Read novels in class.
Late all the time.
Avoided crowded hallways and knew all the lesser traveled ways around school.
Sat at the back of the classrom.
Skipped all audatorium functions.
Spent a lot of time in the library.
Avoided the cafeteria.
Spent a lot of time in the smoking area.
Appearance wise, totaly lacking in any type of conformity.
Talked to few, if any, people during the course of the school day.
Arcades and libraries at night, oh and the occasional nature spot to get away from it all.

So, in retrospect, hard to find. Best of luck!

I can second this one... change novels to sci-tech magazines and it is scary close!

NovXI
08-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Look for the guy who tries not to be noticed.


~ Clothes were dark grey, dark green, dark blue, black. No stripes, no collars, no buttons.


We had to wear school uniforms, I wore mine very neat and tidily while others had their ties loosened, top buttons undone and shirts untucked (uncomfortable for me).
Last year my clothing colour palette consisted of grey, black and white. This year I have included blue.

- I was always early to class
- Sat by myself or with close friends
- Hung out with the same people at lunch every day
- Tired, bored, quiet and usually had my head down working or drawing
- Got passionate and vocal when somebody brings up a subject that interests me (whether it be comics, art, computer stuff and so on)
- Top 15% of my senior year academically and top 8% of our state (approx. 40 kids per each .05 increment of our final mark - e.g. 86.50 or 44.05)
- Good acquaintances with everyone in my year group (better friends with some)

Zoroaster
08-15-2011, 09:12 AM
In the corner, book in hand, he's reading a book. He's always seen reading. And his books are diverse in subject; on one day, you'd find him reading Thus Spake Zarathustra, on another, Flowers for Algernon. He lives in his head for most of the time, but from time to time he comes back to reality to discuss something interesting going on in his mind. But it's really an externalization of his thoughts. He's the one who always argues if something doesn't seem to make sense; he's the one who'll analyze a riddle and tell you why it isn't that good. He's the one who you'd think is angry all the time. But in reality, he's just thinking.

kosh
08-15-2011, 10:06 AM
-Cared about appearance but not to stick out.
-Kinda particular about who I'd decide to hang out with.
-Understanding yet not confined to social norms.
-Liked the esoteric.
-Respected, and got along well with teachers.
-Procrastinated.
-Quiet.

Bluecrux
08-15-2011, 10:57 AM
Okay, let's see.
I am a 19 year old, borderline INT/FJ so I guess much more identical to you.

In my High School
-I used to sit down observing people, reading their minds and predicting their behaviour and body language
-Used to stay away from the shallow crowd who used to spend much time to their trivial lives
-Never did anything which I did not find value in
-Liked to go on long walks, alone or with 1-2 people around
-Had remained the favourite student of most of my teachers
-Have been called the quirkiest and most unusual among the class
-Have been repeatedly compared to nerds like Einstein
-Would easily connect with down-to-earth and humble people and strike a chord with them
-Remained absent for most number of classes and extremely ignorant for things I did not consider worthy of my attention.
-Was very selective about my group and friends
-Spent most of the time learning a hobby, reading or contemplating.

Fox
08-15-2011, 02:30 PM
Looking back at my own teenage years....


- Loner.
- Hanged out in the Library studying.
- Didn't go out of their way to make friends.
- Neither Popular, Average or an Outcast. Just someone who was there.
- Always in the Smartest group even when they weren't that smart.
- An occasional target for bullies but rarely showed that he was bothered by them.
- The neutral party in every conflict. Which gained him some respect.

jmiz06
08-16-2011, 11:12 AM
I was more E-ish in high school. (22 y/o male)

A lot of people would say I was one of the more popular kids, I just think more people knew OF me.

I never applied myself and I still graduated 3rd in my class.
I was a fast walker, and knew exactly how much time it took to get to class
I tried to sit in the back of the class and blend in, but when nobody knew the answer to the question, I would go up and answer it to save the patronizing speech my teacher was about to give.
Definite life counselor for the high school girls. Looking back on it, you could've basically said I was the gay friend.
Tutor. For everyone. I've been thanked multiple times for saving people's GPA.
Never really the best at anything, just good at everything. Even if I was considered the best, I'd just let my teachers/coach give the award to someone else. It got really annoying when everybody's parents had to watch me walk up to the stage over and over to accept awards.
I quit playing football because I was sick of emasculating, insecure dudes grabbing nuts all day. However, soccer and I worked out very well, and we turned out to be the best team at our school.
Always WANTED to hang out with the cool/popular kids and experiment, but my strict parents kept me grounded, plus I skipped a grade and didn't ever get a car. Social life ruined.

Zionoxis
08-16-2011, 04:52 PM
INTP

-Never late, always early...ALWAYS.
-Often forgot my homework...only way my grades went below an A.
-Made A's and B's (because of issue above)
-Was nice to teachers I liked and others hated me for my questions (Why do we need to know this?)
-Talked with one or two in the class, ignored the rest and often did not know their names by the end of the year.
-When bored, would plan out a video game, a program, or a storyline.
-Hated structured math unless told how to apply it to life.
-Destroyed any and everyone in logical debate.
-Made a habit of switching first and last names with people when there was a substitute.
-Good at everything (even random stuff no one else cares about), great at nothing (but computers)

Zolo
08-17-2011, 12:45 AM
Here's how I was in high school:

- Pretty much never late to class.
- Almost always sat in the front.
- Did the bare minimum, but still got good grades.
- Hated English classes. Symbolism made no sense, and I found it to be extremely pointless.
- Was essentially ostracized. When we had to pair up for groups in class, I'd wait it out until I had to be paired with someone.
- Either sat in the cafeteria with the other rejects, or outside alone for lunch.

rdfsc
08-17-2011, 05:24 PM
High school was the same as others. Kept to myself, arrived early for class to brush up on previous days homework or less or just to chill since I hated small talk and sitting around in groups. Let people cheat off my homework assignments.

I thought everybody was below me either way. Had run in with bullies and a few fights which I would win since I never played by the rules. A well placed headbutt, shot to throat, or head slammed into desk then tossed to floor would normally end it and after the 3rd time people left me alone.

Hated by everybody, despised by most, and after a while was happily left alone.
Was having sex on a regular basis. I wouldn't hang with anybody but had a couple f buddies whom i would hook up with. Or some moms on occassion. Never hung out at pep rallies and would duck out of them if I could. Never went to sporting events or dances.

So if you're looking for the intj at school you most likey won't notice that person since they don't want to be noticed in most cases.

ShadowCat
08-17-2011, 06:36 PM
-Never late, although I would usually be the first to class. I always sat in back unless otherwise assigned.
-Never listened to the teacher. I had much more important matters to attend too.
-I spoke like a chameleon. If the teacher called on me I would answer the answer as fast as humanly possilble.
-I had a few close friends. Everyone else was a bloody wanker.
-The crushes I had were never chased after. Therefore in conclusion I had no girlfriends.
-Last but not least for now is that I was seen as the silent smart type.
-Ah yes and I bullied the bullies. Even if I didn't want too be seen.

Zephyrion
08-18-2011, 12:45 PM
Me currently in school:

- Never late
- Never seen approaching (Despite the fact that I am 193cm high and 90kg heavy)
- Speaking only to a small amount of "Trusty side kicks" who can follow my train of thought
- When speaking to others being cocky/superior/funny
- Sat alone or with one of the sidekicks
- Jolted at teachers with jokes
- Seems the silent smart type by everyone
- Can stare your soul out of your body
- When speaking to others probably trying to sway them cause of some secret agenda/plan
- And a special note: I always dressed to blend in, so my meddling and controlling/influencing people would not be detected...


Worked for me

absolution
08-19-2011, 03:24 AM
In school now :
-Quiet
-The "Computer guy"
-Few friends
-Never late
-Favourited by almost all teachers, even strict ones.
-Walked fast to classes to beat the crowds
-Best grades in year

the usual introverted student I guess.

nelsonm360
08-19-2011, 04:13 AM
Still in school-
-follow rules, to smart to get in trouble because i have no particular desire to have my ass kicked by my mum.
-being taught from a very early age to respect authority blah blah blah if not i get my ass kicked.
-used to spend a lot of time in library to read and avoid unnecessary interaction with people.
-out perform every one in every subject i take, mainly because i can't stand being beaten by anyone at something i'm good at because in primary school i had an INTJ friend who was always top of the class and i was second even though i came so close each time.
-i actually put effort in my work and study hard when i need to mainly because i want to get into a good university and if i don't, i get my ass kicked.
-hang out in a large group of people to avoid being noticed -blend in the background, the clothes i wear are specifically designed to blend me into the background.
-i seem to be popular and well liked by most of the people in my year, i don't i think i have got any close friends probably due to the fact that i have very few things in common with anyone, I'm reserved and quiet and I cant bonded with anyone.
-I'm sometimes late but very rarely.
-Some people are scared of me for some godforsaken reason, no one messes with me.
-i used to give people 'death glares' now i just smile slightly so i appear more friendly to attract girls.

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CaelestisPeste
08-20-2011, 12:02 PM
-"Chokes the chicken" at home, work, school, library, everywhere.
-Attention grabber
-Plays too much games
-Sadistic jokes/insults people
-Anal retentive
-Competitive (Certain areas)
-Apathetic (Certain areas)
-Enjoys being a social hermit
-Hates large gatherings: parties, dances, prom
-Will blend into groups to avoid detection by teachers
-Doesn't understand how his personality is different from others and how it affects them (no homo)
-Likes to manipulate people: lie for the "lulz", or create a dramatic situation.
-Blame the situation on someone else
-Get punched/kicked a lot
-Has small group of friends (none of which are of the opposite sex)
-Gets along with teachers - especially ones most students dislike.
-Great at poker: Texas Hold'em, Big 2, Slap Jack
-Into collectible card games: Magic the Gathering, Pokemon.
-Prefers to prepare for a situation
-Acts like one of those bullied kids in those documentary who will explode at any minute.

subwayrider
08-21-2011, 12:07 PM
If I described the way I was in high school:

- Personal reading was done in class
- I would ditch class sometimes to go to the library and read
- Almost freak-ish appearance. Looked completely different from most everyone else
- I rarely spoke to anyone
- I was well-liked by some of my teachers. And sometimes they would put me in the spotlight, even if I didn't want to be there
- hung out at the back of the school a lot, sometimes with a friend or two. I had about 5 friends, at the most, that year
- I probably looked very sad to people. I was very depressed for all of Junior year
- Sat at the back of the class
- hung out at the library a lot
- smelled like burnt marijuana pretty often
- I was always reading-- even while walking
- Never needed help with homework, etc.
- would sometimes raise my hand in class to provide an answer. I would almost always be right
- loner
- whenever I would try to hang out with a group, it would go wrong. I wouldn't be able to do it
- I wore glasses
- If anyone approached me, I would probably not know how to react, and just leave


I was in a bad place at the time. Not everyone's high school experience is as bad as mine was. I don't think anyone would have been attracted to the person I was back then, INTJ or not.

mike05450
08-21-2011, 12:53 PM
Wore lots of black (not goth stuff, just black shirts and/or pants)
Sat in the back of class
Corrected teachers
Loved to argue (still do)
Smoked too much
Very tight group of friends (geeks, jocks, metal heads, skaters, whoever I liked)
Good build because the gym has always been my version of church
Despite my friendly glares I was a kind person (unless you told me what to do)
Very confident/ mistaken for arrogant frequently. Ok so I'm arrogant! so what? lol
Did hw in class, or right before class on the due date

I should add though my HS experience wasn't bad really. I was nearly 6'2" by the end of my freshman year and bought an old Ford truck with my life savings the begining of my sophmore year. I admit I was very lucky.

Looc
01-17-2012, 01:08 AM
Look for that guy who talks a little to everyone but isn't apart of any group.

Quito
01-17-2012, 05:53 AM
If I described the way I was in high school:

- Personal reading was done in class
- I would ditch class sometimes to go to the library and read
- I rarely spoke to anyone
- I was well-liked by some of my teachers. And sometimes they would put me in the spotlight, even if I didn't want to be there
- hung out at the back of the school a lot, sometimes with a friend or two. I had about 5 friends, at the most, that year
- I probably looked very sad to people. I was very depressed for all of Junior year
- Sat at the back of the class
- hung out at the library a lot
- smelled like burnt marijuana pretty often
- I was always reading-- even while walking
- Never needed help with homework, etc.
- would sometimes raise my hand in class to provide an answer. I would almost always be right
- loner


Thanks for saving me some typing. I switched to DVORAK recently so it can feel tedious at times.

I can connect with a lot of these points but I was a fairly attractive fellow (still am if I do say so myself) so that generally overpowered the negative social stigma combined with the air of confidence we all seem to carry.

Initially HS sucked, but towards the end when everyone starts letting go of the stereotypical peer groups, it picks up. All in all I am truly glad for the experience.

IotaNull
01-17-2012, 06:25 AM
In my experience, things got significantly worse after high school for social groups.

HWSNBN
01-17-2012, 06:24 PM
Always was on time to class.
Always sat in the back.
Was always first to debate a topic that no one wants to talk about.
I had no respect for anyone.
I always always always tested best at math and science.
I talked to very few people.

Alakazam
02-27-2012, 04:35 PM
18 in highschool:
-Dont stand out very much at all
-Never late, No detentions, Decent marks
-Tired all the time
-Free time spent mainly on the internet
-Never had a girlfriend
-Have 2-3 close friends
-Eat lunch at the nerd/sped table (Yes, they eat together for some reason)
-Pretty much only answer questions in philosophy class (my favorite) and even then its to move the class along when they don't answer
-I pretty much just wait for school to be over so I can leave

Bunker Man
02-28-2012, 02:54 AM
-Didn't really have any teenage rebellion stage, or do anything all that bad.
-Considered worst kid by parents for indeterminate reasons, just because.

Rexus
02-28-2012, 04:16 AM
18 in highschool:
-Dont stand out very much at all
-Never late, No detentions, Decent marks
-Tired all the time
-Free time spent mainly on the internet
-Never had a girlfriend
-Have 2-3 close friends
-Eat lunch at the nerd/sped table (Yes, they eat together for some reason)
-Pretty much only answer questions in philosophy class (my favorite) and even then its to move the class along when they don't answer
-I pretty much just wait for school to be over so I can leave

Something like that yeah...not mirroring in every detail, but my story is similar

KeithP
02-28-2012, 06:29 AM
* Hit 'the wall' in grade 10 and grades hit the shitter- I never had to 'try' to pass before, and the notion was new to me.
* Hacky sack with the soccer players, breakdancing with nerds, involved in the music room, was acquaintances with many, friends with few.
* Ignored bullies, even though they tried. Would show them up at appropriate times, making them hate me even more.
* No girlfriend
* Not altogether quiet, but never really standing out.
* All of my teachers knew I was smart and not applying myself. But then again, none of them actually approached me about it or tried to inspire me, just put it on the report cards.

My life was always happening after school and on weekends. And during the summer. School was just a necessary evil. Looking back, I should've tried a bit harder to get decent marks. Even if you aren't planning on University, plan on it for later in life by putting in the work now. Even if you don't, don't squash the opportunity of it being a possibility.

Dougler
02-28-2012, 10:35 AM
im 19 now but in highschool I was:

-rarely late
- had only a small circle of really close friends
-disliked all the popular kids, yet was somehow almost considered popular
-Parent/teacher interviews is where most teachers said I had a very good memory but little work ethic
- was never involved in any extra curricular activities, except the grade 12 cross-country team and I refused to go to the team photo for the yearbook
- would only raise my hand when no one else knew the answer
- was never afraid to skip class or a full day of school
- slept a lot in only certain classes when I knew I would get away with it
- didn't respect anyone who wasn't deserving of it
- Usually had a serious face on so I think many people we're nervous around me, like I might snap on them if they said the wrong thing
- did not have any relationships with girls
- oblivious to girls who showed interest
- hated most things everyone else liked
- would be nice to your face, but probably would talk about you behind your back with no mercy and would never get confronted about it
- and no matter how tough an assignment was that was handed out, or how unfair the amount of work we had to do was, that made everyone grown, whine, and complain. I would never let anyone know it bothered me too

DrCiao
02-28-2012, 10:55 AM
On the football and swim teams

Was co-editor of school paper

Was defense attorney on school's mock trial

Had supporting roles in school plays

Cruised through all my classes as they were really easy

Graduated in the top 5%

Went to rave parties on the weekend

Junior and senior year, skipped classes to hang out with college students

As far as personality, I was reserved, methodical and probably secretly thought I was better than everybody else and couldn't wait to leave the small city I grew up in.

nowt
02-28-2012, 12:23 PM
Told the class president not to search me down for reunions. It went over just fine.

Mateo1041
02-28-2012, 06:51 PM
In a nutshell: computers, coding, and programming manuals in study hall. Shy. Did my homework and everything I was expected to do. Got mostly A's in the subjects I was interested in. Liked art. I was never the rebellious one, although harbored most things internally.

Bardas
02-28-2012, 07:05 PM
Still there.
-Reserved
-Back of class
-Always reading (as mentioned in just about every post)
-Listening to music as much as possible
-Avoiding work as much as possible, but powering through it when required
-Subtly mocking annoying teachers
-Arrogant
-Haughty in uncomfortable situations
-Relaxed and slightly ironic in comfortable situations (which are rare)
-On time
-Neutral wardrobe (jeans, random, arbitrary t-shirt)
-Smarter than most, but with a lower GPA due to hatred of busywork (I realize this is the excuse of idiots everywhere, but I have literally the best SAT score in the school, while my GPA is only ranked in the teens. For perspective, school size is 1500 students)
-Not participating in any school clubs or social functions
-Only friends are girls

Bronze
02-29-2012, 06:43 AM
- Some days I would wake up at 5 am to go swimming before school.
- Got the best score on pretty much every test in every class all the way through the school system
- Had plenty of friends (some of them are still close friends)
- Popular with the girls (I didn't much care about them though. Still don't)
- When other kids would eat lunch I would go to the track and run a 3k or 5k
- Practiced my instrument A LOT (some weekends I would make a detailed schedule for 14 hour practice sessions. Per day. And follow it to the minute)
- Arrogant
- Sarcastic
- Pedantic
- Respected/feared by the teachers
- Did the best work my science teacher had ever seen in her history as a teacher, and she asked me to give her a copy of all my work to show to future generations. I wonder if she still uses it.
- High on confidence
- Did a lot of speeches/represented the students
- Was generally pretty content


Wow, looking back I can't believe the energy and determination I had back then! What the hell happened?
I need to get the hell off the internet and start getting productive again.


A few weeks back I met a former classmate and he said he always looked up to me back then, and still did, a decade later.
I'm in my late twenties now, currently back in school (law school) after being a pro musician for a few years.
Typing out this response has made me realize I have lost something along the way. I need to get that back.
A disgusting laziness/apathy has crept in the last few years, and it has to go.