Snow-Hater's Rant

[rwyatt365]

Ok, this time of the year I really start to go nuts. The reason – cold weather, especially SNOW! I hate winter because of ice, and snow, and cold, and winter coats, and shoveling, and warming your car up, and I can't ride my motorcycle, and…pant, pant, pant. :cry:

All of that crap about "brisk" winter breezes, and winter sports, and Holiday Seasons is just a steaming pile of media hype designed to lull us into a false sense of complacency so that we can all die in an apocalyptic ice-age eco-disaster! What's good about; wind-chill factors, dirty slush, dogs pissing in snowbanks, power outages because of ice storms, avalanches, glaciers, postmen falling on ice-covered porches? Nothing, that's what! Winter is an assault to the senses and an abomination before [insert your preferred spiritual deity here].

So for all of you snowboarding, ice skating, skiing, bobsledding cold-freaks I say, "Bleh!" (sorry for the offensive language, blame it on the snow). And for all of you selfish, hot-weather, tropical people I ask, "What's up with that?" Is the sun so small that you can't share a little? Gotta hoard it all for yourselves? Turn on a fan, or something – blow a little of that heat northward, why don't you. There's enough to go around, don’t be so stingy! Walking around with your asses hanging out all year around, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Keep it up and I'll send an iceberg down there! See how you like that?!!

Saturday it snowed here – it was just 2 inches but enough to activate my snow-hater response. Thank god it warmed up and rained and washed all of that crap off the face of the earth. Then it snowed lightly this morning, just enough to piss me off again.

I know there's more to come. This snow-crap just doesn't stop. It's gonna be a long winter.

[drek996]

Yeah I agree on the motorcycle issue, that would drive me bonkers, which is why I pay top dollar to live in San Diego (and we don't share with others well, if I could I would give you all of L.A.'s sunshine I could share their'). I don't miss living in Kansas and Iowa I hate living in the snow, I like to visit it though.

On a better note I will ride a wheelie on your behalf when I exploit the roads in a few minutes here...

[The Rose]

I'm definitely getting on this band-wagon!
I am so sick and tired of cold weather, I'm still sick and tired of last winter's cold weather.
I'm finding it very difficult to appreciate the snow at all.
(And this is coming from someone in whose family it is a rule that if one sees it snowing, one must make a broadcast announcement to make sure Mom knows about it!)

This month I've adopted this survival mind-set:
Bring it on; the sooner it gets here, the sooner it'll be gone.

[Raven Queen]

*Sits here feeling hot even with the air-conditioning on and stares wistfully*

Well, good luck for the next few months! I wish I could switch places with you (but then I don't really know how it's like to be in those kind of temperatures), and definitely wish the heat would go to your area. At least you people suffer for only a short while, we have to put up with the heat and humidity all year round. :/

*Walks around with ass hanging out* :D

[The Rose]

*Sits here feeling hot even with the air-conditioning on and stares wistfully*

Well, good luck for the next few months! I wish I could switch places with you (but then I don't really know how it's like to be in those kind of temperatures), and definitely wish the heat would go to your area. At least you people suffer for only a short while, we have to put up with the heat and humidity all year round. :/

*Walks around with ass hanging out* :D:undecided: Yeah, I can't stand humidity either.

*goes to put more wood in the wood stove*

[Firelie]

While I wish it would snow here sometimes, I'm glad I live in a place where it mostly just rains during the winter.

[Solaris]

The best solution I found for this was to move to the southeastern US. I adore it here. I don't really get snow here, but it does snow in the nearish mountains, so I could go visit snow if I wanted. I grew up in the very north northeast US, and despise winter and cold -- crazy snow lovers can have it. I maintain that Yankees have a reputation for being nasty because the weather is so darned awful, who wouldn't be cranky??

[rwyatt365]

The best solution I found for this was to move to the southeastern US. I adore it here. I don't really get snow here, but it does snow in the nearish mountains, so I could go visit snow if I wanted. I grew up in the very north northeast US, and despise winter and cold -- crazy snow lovers can have it. I maintain that Yankees have a reputation for being nasty because the weather is so darned awful, who wouldn't be cranky??
...and that's where I'm desperately trying to move!! I troll the job boards and apply to positions there all the time. I guess they don't like cranky, old INTJs there!

[Solaris]

...and that's where I'm desperately trying to move!! I troll the job boards and apply to positions there all the time. I guess they don't like cranky, old INTJs there!


What job field? If I've seen it somewhere on here, I've forgotten. Maybe I can suggest some other resources as I'm already here.

[The Many]

I live in Sweden, and there is nothing worse than snow. I absolutely despise it. I spend half the winters having colds, and the other halves of them I am cold myself. I seriously need to move out of this country.

[rwyatt365]

What job field? If I've seen it somewhere on here, I've forgotten. Maybe I can suggest some other resources as I'm already here.
IT Infrastructure Manager, Change Management, IT Project Management (working on my Project Management Professional certification now), IT Service Delivery. Every place I've applied to wants MS Certifications (for a frickin' manager w/15+ yrs experience?!!), that's why I'm working on my PMP now.

[bubbles]

I wish we really do have a big giant fan to blow that heat up north. It's supposed to be 85 degrees Fahrenheit here tomorrow...in DECEMBER! I can imagine myself wet and smelly again... I've never experienced cold winters before...might want to move to a colder place someday.

[TruorTupnm]

First of all, you cold haters are apparently composed primarily of tiny pellets of pure insanity. Second of all of the points on the list that I shall be employing, you can always put more clothes on, construct a roaring fire, rub paws together or something to make yourself warm. When you're hot, you can't take enough clothes off. There also exist the facts that you become nasty and sweaty and tired. Doesn't sound like fun. I live in the evil Florida. It is maybe seventy, and humans are complaining about the cold. I'd wish to obtain a bit.

[ShaiGar]

Yeah! All that GODDAMN SNOW! I hate this time of year.
It's so damn cold, why can't jack frost go f**k himself?

*mutters about snow*

I hate inclement weather.
Not that I ever see any in Australia, it's about 28 degrees Celcius outside :)

[HackerX]

30 deg C here today.

I've never actually seen real snow (only fake stuff).

[logos]

i'll trade florida humidity for some nice cold snow any day

[rwyatt365]

First of all, you cold haters are apparently composed primarily of tiny pellets of pure insanity. Second of all of the points on the list that I shall be employing, you can always put more clothes on, construct a roaring fire, rub paws together or something to make yourself warm. When you're hot, you can't take enough clothes off. There also exist the facts that you become nasty and sweaty and tired. Doesn't sound like fun. I live in the evil Florida. It is maybe seventy, and humans are complaining about the cold. I'd wish to obtain a bit.
I beg to differ. Cold-haters are composed entirely of rationality and common-sense, and I will demonstrate that in response to your points;
Putting on more clothes is an encumbrance and a drain on the world's economy. Just think of all of the minutes used by all of the people that have to put on extra clothes in the morning, then shed them when at work or school, then have to put them back on at the end of the day, only to have to remove them again when arriving back at home. All of that time amounts to huge losses in productivity that growing economies can ill afford to waste.

Doing things to make one's self warm is also a time waster, it is also a major contributor to global warming. Think of all of those furnaces and heaters – the carbon footprint of all of those devices has got to be huge! Not to mention warming the car up in the morning and again in the afternoon, how much fossil fuel is wasted doing that?

The human body has thousands, if not millions of sweat glands for the express purpose of aiding us in shedding heat. That remarkable and elegant system is a wonder to behold and should be celebrated instead of reviled. And while you are limited to the amount of clothing that you can take off (i.e. all of it), you are not limited in choices for additional cooling mechanisms; cool air, and water sprays spring to mind. If I had my druthers, I'd choose hot sweaty and tired over cold, shivering and hypothermic. Besides, what' more sexy; a person stripped down to their skivvies, glistening with perspiration, or a person bundled up to their eyeballs with an icecicle hanging from their nostril?

You're more than welcome to all of my cold!

i'll trade florida humidity for some nice cold snow any day
Have you ever been in a Great Lakes state in mid-summer? Florida humidity ain't got nothin' on us! But, I'll take that trade 365 days a year. Cold snow is only nice on postcards and Bin Crosby movies, it's a bitch at 5AM on the way into work.

[ShaiGar]

Darwin, Northern Territory.
We're experiencing the 4 month humidity build up to the monsoons. It's something like 80% humidity outside and ranging from 28 - 35 degrees celcius.

I want some of your cold. And your snow.

[rwyatt365]

Darwin, Northern Territory.
We're experiencing the 4 month humidity build up to the monsoons. It's something like 80% humidity outside and ranging from 28 - 35 degrees celcius.

I want some of your cold. And your snow.
I will send you some cold through the Internet! ;D

This morning it was -6C with a wind-chill of -13C. The "high" today will reach a balmy 0C. And it's NOT EVEN WINTER yet!! :irked:

Cold is anathema to life!

[The Rose]

i'll trade florida humidity for some nice cold snow any dayHey! Maybe we could trade houses for a week! ;)

Here you go - for those of you who wanted some cold:

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[HarleyQuinn]

Up here in New London, NH we got about 8 inches...

Plowing the parking spaces on campus tonight but taking up to a half hour clearing the snow off the vehicle prior to moving it so you don't run over a teacher or classmate? Not cool! And they don't even clear my parking lot until 9:30 PM. UGH!!!!!

It's currently feeling like -9C and I have to walk 5 minutes for my job in 45 minutes. After, I get to walk 5 minutes back, move my car later, and walk 5 minutes back AGAIN! :thumbsdown:

[logos]

Hey! Maybe we could trade houses for a week! ;)

Here you go - for those of you who wanted some cold:

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Beautiful.

I am from Connecticut and I try to go north for vacation a few weeks every year - usually in January or February - so I can have a little bit of my favorite season. I haven't missed in the past four years. Eternal sunshine wears down my soul and I don't like the beach except every great once in a while. I'd move north if my career didn't keep me here. Maybe someday I'll get the chance. Until then, I will continue to live a few minutes walk from one of the most popular beaches in the world (Clearwater) and not like it. :P

[Solaris]

I love that I don't have to wonder how far below zero it will be when I wake up in the morning here. I love that I won't be late because I was clearing my car of snow, or making a path for it, nor that it was stuck in snow. If there is snow, nobody goes anywhere here (yes, I can drive in it, but precious few others can, and they are terrifying to behold). I don't miss cold so severe that the snot freezes inside my nose in one breath. I don't miss that 20 degrees ever felt pleasantly warm. I don't miss my locks being frozen shut. I love that I can go outside and run all year long where I am. I love that the grass is still green, but that I don't have to mow it. I love that people don't actually need to know what a snowbrush is here, it's a curious artifact they find in rental cars mainly. I hate the cold and snow, and will never return to it.

Rwyatt, I presume you've tried places like Lenovo and IBM already? The entire Research Triangle Park area in NC is rife with jobs suiting you. There's so much technology here, and not too far from VIR for racing.

[TruorTupnm]

Buying more clothes stimulates the economy, and I would hypothesize that humans waste more time with cooling off activities than by warming up ones. The putting on and taking off of clothes (nice as well as snuggly slash comfy clothes!) and the turning on of heating units versus heat exhaustion, induced sleepiness, fanning ourselves, and constantly retrieving refreshing beverages.

Some humans open all of their car doors or leave the air conditioner on for a while before entering a hot car (at least my crazy family did).

Also, what about the human body's defenses against cold? No celebration for, um, shivering? :rolleyes:

Ah, and towards what happens to be sexier, I would not be the one to ask. Personal tastes always differ. Mayhaps some enjoy the idea of sharing some superly large cocoon of warmth with their sexual partner of the moment, rather than being so hot and sweaty and stinking that they wish for zero contact with anything? :huh:

Anyways, there is also the fact that humans are more fun when it's cold. They get crazy when it's hot. Overly emotional. The cold slows people down, helps those wouldn't otherwise to think.

[The Rose]

You're right. Too hot isn't that great either.

[rwyatt365]

I woke up this morning, and to my horror the entire neighborhood was covered with a light dusting of…SNOW. While it was just a dusting, it was everywhere! My first reaction was to crawl back into bed and wait for summer, but I knew that was not very practical. So I hoisted my unwilling body from the warmth and comfort of my (multiple) blankets and prepared to do battle with the elements.

I had to warm the car up for 15 minutes – do you hear that, you ecology-minded, global warming haters…15 non-productive, carbon footprint increasing, greenhouse gas producing, oil reserve depleting minutes! I have single-handedly decreased the viability of the human race by 0.00000005%!! Oh, the shame! Oh, the guilt! How can I ever repay that debt to society?! How can I ever atone for this atrocity?

The only solution is to remove myself from this frigid landscape where no creature (with less than 2 inches of blubber and a thick coat of fur) was meant to live.
I love that I don't have to wonder how far below zero it will be when I wake up in the morning here. I love that I won't be late because I was clearing my car of snow, or making a path for it, nor that it was stuck in snow. If there is snow, nobody goes anywhere here (yes, I can drive in it, but precious few others can, and they are terrifying to behold). I don't miss cold so severe that the snot freezes inside my nose in one breath. I don't miss that 20 degrees ever felt pleasantly warm. I don't miss my locks being frozen shut. I love that I can go outside and run all year long where I am. I love that the grass is still green, but that I don't have to mow it. I love that people don't actually need to know what a snowbrush is here, it's a curious artifact they find in rental cars mainly. I hate the cold and snow, and will never return to it.
Solaris, I salute your dedication to snow-less-ness! Your commitment to it brings a (frozen) tear to my eye. :cry:


I am from Connecticut and I try to go north for vacation a few weeks every year - usually in January or February - so I can have a little bit of my favorite season. I haven't missed in the past four years. Eternal sunshine wears down my soul and I don't like the beach except every great once in a while. I'd move north if my career didn't keep me here. Maybe someday I'll get the chance. Until then, I will continue to live a few minutes walk from one of the most popular beaches in the world (Clearwater) and not like it. :P
Eternal sunshine! Beaches! Be still my beating heart! :lovestruck:
Turn the knife in a little more logos. :irked:
Buying more clothes stimulates the economy, and I would hypothesize that humans waste more time with cooling off activities than by warming up ones. The putting on and taking off of clothes (nice as well as snuggly slash comfy clothes!) and the turning on of heating units versus heat exhaustion, induced sleepiness, fanning ourselves, and constantly retrieving refreshing beverages.

Some humans open all of their car doors or leave the air conditioner on for a while before entering a hot car (at least my crazy family did).

Also, what about the human body's defenses against cold? No celebration for, um, shivering?

Ah, and towards what happens to be sexier, I would not be the one to ask. Personal tastes always differ. Mayhaps some enjoy the idea of sharing some superly large cocoon of warmth with their sexual partner of the moment, rather than being so hot and sweaty and stinking that they wish for zero contact with anything?

Anyways, there is also the fact that humans are more fun when it's cold. They get crazy when it's hot. Overly emotional. The cold slows people down, helps those wouldn't otherwise to think.
To your points;
I will accede that buying clothes could be an economic boost, but I wonder if it offsets the lost productivity? Are we talking a net gain, or loss?

Heat exhaustion vs hypothermia. Induced sleepiness vs cold-induced coma. Open windows vs furnace heat. Refreshing cold drinks vs hand-warming hot coffee. Each has pro's & cons. But let me ask this; how many times have you had to shovel rain off your sidewalk? How many times have "sun-cicles" damaged your gutters? When was the last time you had to scrape "heat" off of your windshield? And how many times have you had to cool-down your car in the morning before going to work?

I don't know about "other people" but I never use the A/C in my car, and I use "natural air-conditioning" (i.e. open windows) at home. They both work great. And, no, heat does not bother me one bit – I once drove through Death Valley in a black-on-black car without the A/C running. My parents live in Florida and when I visit them I don't use the A/C.

Natural defenses against cold…uncontrollable shivering and reduced blood flow to the extremities…oh boy! I can't wait – NOT!

So, why would one go into a snuggly sleeping bag with one's partner? To get warm, perhaps? And then to get sweaty and stinky anyway? Seems to me that one would be reproducing a micro-climate that is already available in the warmth. Besides, after getting sweaty and stinky one could then share a nice, cooling shower with one's partner – and then start all over again!! Woo-Hoo! :cool:

"More fun when they're cold…"?! People are rude, obnoxious, preoccupied and…well…cold when it's cold. No one smiles ('cause your lips will freeze on your teeth!) when it's cold. Everyone is bundled up, covered over, and generally inaccessible when it's cold. Of course people slow down when it's cold – to the point of torpor! And you can't think because your brain cells are frozen, the synapses are closed by ice dams. That's not fun.

I appreciate the efforts of those of you that like winter (and cold, and snow), but I will not be swayed. Snow is evil! Cold is bad! :thumbsdown:

I shall fight the warm fight. :thumbsup:

* rwyatt365 added to this post, 365 minutes and 58 seconds later...

After this morning's wake-up to snow I thought I was "safe" for the day. The weather report said "cold", but that the snow was pretty much gone for the day. So, I settled into my workday secure in the knowledge that the deviant flakes would remain at bay – at least for the day.

Imagine my shock and chagrin when I came out of a (mind-numbing) meeting and passed by the courtyard window only to see massive, evil snow "flakes" falling in rapid profusion from the sky. Were it not for the fact that I was in a public place I would have cursed the skies for the insult! Snow, when I had been promised none! A lie, an affront to the sensibilities, a plot to overthrow humanity.

Now the roads will be snow-covered and slick. The drive home will be an ordeal – it takes people around here at least 2 good snowfalls to remember their snow-driving abilities, until then they are as incompetent and incapable as any "sunshiner" in the snow. I will probably starve to death before I get to the safety of my home.

Oh, the horror! Oh, the tragedy! :cry:

[Hdier]

I love the cold weather...there aren't many insects around in winter.

[The Rose]

I love the cold weather...there aren't many insects around in winter.I definitely appreciate the lack of insects, too!

[rwyatt365]

Insects are a bother, but I can tolerate or avoid them in order to have warmth. Besides, the only ones that I have a problem with are mosquitos, and flies that buzz your head - the rest of them can be dealt with pretty easily.

[thegnat]

I don't particularly love the cold weather, however winter has its own stark beauty. The trees are naked against the sky, insects are dormant, the air is crisp and animals are quieter. I'm not a huge fan of trudging through snow either but I appreciate its beauty. If only all cold days had snow I'd be fine with cold weather, cold weather has a purpose when it snows. More snow for you non-snow having people:
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[rwyatt365]

Tonight's forecast; 1-3 inches of new snow. That means that tomorrow morning I will have to face the unwashed hoards on the battlefields of the freeways, newly coated with a slick surface of fresh fallen snow. The carnage should be indescribable!

My only hope is to leave for work earlier than usual (currently, my departure time is 6AM EST), it might just be worth the lack of sleep to avoid the brain-dead.

Better stock up on caffeine.

[Solaris]

I'd like to add that I will never be let down by the snow for a "White Christmas" either. Stupid snow, can't even have the decency to be present when people actually want it. And why in the world do we want snow for Christmas anyway?! Jesus was not born anywhere near snow, and isn't that what we're supposed to be celebrating anyway? Regardless, I am still nostalgic about snow at Christmas, but I don't expect it where I am. If it snows on Christmas here, it's an unexpected treat. The best part, it's gone for years (if we're lucky) by the next day.

For those of you who insist you can continue adding clothes on when it's cold, tell me this: When you picture an uber attractive member of whatever gender you prefer, is said hottie (notice the word isn't "coldie") wearing layers of form hiding wool, cotton, and polyester, or just one (probably small) layer of nylon and spandex that shows off every wonderful part? Also, how can anyone be pleasant under 12 layers of thermals, sweaters, coats, overcoats, scarves, hats, gloves, jeans/pants, wool socks and boots?

*draws a line* I am firmly on rwyatt's side in this debate. Join us! We have refreshing drinks, swimming pools with fountains, and no wool socks!!:thumbsup:

[Lucid]

Snow only sucks if you have to wait for a bus in it or scrape it off your car.

This year we've been having really bizarre weather in Denver. It's been between 50 and 65 degrees all week, which is unusual for this time of year. It's usually sunny in Denver, but it's also usually cold. This heat wave is rather disconcerting. Last night it even rained!

I'll trade for snow any day.

Also, if we don't get enough snow then everything catches fire in the summers. Given a choice between snow and fire, I'll always choose snow.

Besides, tagging some innocent, unsuspecting person in the back of the neck with a snowball is arguably one of life's greatest pleasures.

[binofhay]

Chicago winters...slush...salt stains on boots and clothes...missing-toed pigeons huddled under heated lamps on el platforms...scarf snot... Lake Michigan wind slicing into bodies in the funnel that is the Loop. :cry: I cannot function as a human being for the next 4 1/2 months.

[logos]

scraping the snow and ice off my car is a highlight of my vacations :P

if the snow is good for a snowman, i am in heaven... but whether it is or not, i try anyway.

last year one day while i was up north the wind chill was -23F (i think actual temp was -7 or something) so i went for a walk around the block while it was snowing in a fresh foot of snow... i loved it.. some people were meant to live in the north..

[HarleyQuinn]

scraping the snow and ice off my car is a highlight of my vacations :P

if the snow is good for a snowman, i am in heaven... but whether it is or not, i try anyway.

last year one day while i was up north the wind chill was -23F (i think actual temp was -7 or something) so i went for a walk around the block while it was snowing in a fresh foot of snow... i loved it.. some people were meant to live in the north..

You're nuts... ;D

We still have about 6-7 inches on the ground and not only is it getting colder but more snow is expected at the start of next week. What did we do to annoy Jack Frost this time? He should give us a set of guidelines so he stops dumping snow on us.

For Xmas vacation, I get to go home... a whopping 5 degrees warmer than where I am now. If I'm lucky, the snow up here will be rain down there. *huddles back next to the heater*

Also sitting in a car, waiting 15 minutes for it to warm up while you can see your own breath is almost as worse as being outside, walking in the cold for 5 to 10 minutes.

[Hdier]

In my opinion, the most beautiful thing nature created is untouched snow (though the most enjoyable is something *ahem* different)

[rwyatt365]

I'd like to add that I will never be let down by the snow for a "White Christmas" either. Stupid snow, can't even have the decency to be present when people actually want it. And why in the world do we want snow for Christmas anyway?! Jesus was not born anywhere near snow, and isn't that what we're supposed to be celebrating anyway? Regardless, I am still nostalgic about snow at Christmas, but I don't expect it where I am. If it snows on Christmas here, it's an unexpected treat. The best part, it's gone for years (if we're lucky) by the next day.
"White Christmas" – bah humbug! I'll take a green Christmas any day.
For those of you who insist you can continue adding clothes on when it's cold, tell me this: When you picture an uber attractive member of whatever gender you prefer, is said hottie (notice the word isn't "coldie") wearing layers of form hiding wool, cotton, and polyester, or just one (probably small) layer of nylon and spandex that shows off every wonderful part? Also, how can anyone be pleasant under 12 layers of thermals, sweaters, coats, overcoats, scarves, hats, gloves, jeans/pants, wool socks and boots?

*draws a line* I am firmly on rwyatt's side in this debate. Join us! We have refreshing drinks, swimming pools with fountains, and no wool socks!!
And as far as covered-over hotties is concerned…that is one of the supreme disappointments of cold weather. My "Babe-radar" is on full scan whenever I am out in the general population. As I mentioned in another thread (somewhere?), I appreciate beauty and to me there is nothing more beautiful than a fine female figure (see, they inspire me to alliteration). How disappointing it is to be thwarted by such "countermeasures" as big coats, moon boots, and wool scarves. That defeats all of my systems and renders my radar inoperable – "seasonal chaff" as it were. Bring on the gauzy blouses, the short-shorts, even a nice pair of curve-hugging jeans is preferable!

In my opinion, the most beautiful thing nature created is untouched snow (though the most enjoyable is something *ahem* different)
The operative word is "untouched" – how long does that happen. My preference would be to look at snow on a calendar, or on the Discovery Channel – not in my backyard, or on my car.

Bah, humbug!!

[logos]

For those of you who insist you can continue adding clothes on when it's cold, tell me this: When you picture an uber attractive member of whatever gender you prefer, is said hottie (notice the word isn't "coldie") wearing layers of form hiding wool, cotton, and polyester, or just one (probably small) layer of nylon and spandex that shows off every wonderful part? Also, how can anyone be pleasant under 12 layers of thermals, sweaters, coats, overcoats, scarves, hats, gloves, jeans/pants, wool socks and boots?

Seeing perfectly shaped and tanned bodies all the time you become numb to it.. the same way nudists don't stare at each other... personally i find unique styles or features to be interesting.. shapely people are boring.. the hottest celebrity i can think of off the top of my head is Bjork. :P

also, nothing is sexier than cold weather and a shared coverings by a fire... and have you ever heard of the term sweater puppies??? :P

[rwyatt365]

Seeing perfectly shaped and tanned bodies all the time you become numb to it.. the same way nudists don't stare at each other... personally i find unique styles or features to be interesting.. shapely people are boring.. the hottest celebrity i can think of off the top of my head is Bjork. :P

also, nothing is sexier than cold weather and a shared coverings by a fire... and have you ever heard of the term sweater puppies??? :P
I don't care about "perfectly shaped" I'd just like to see skin, or at least curves!

[Solaris]

Seeing perfectly shaped and tanned bodies all the time you become numb to it.. the same way nudists don't stare at each other... personally i find unique styles or features to be interesting.. shapely people are boring.. the hottest celebrity i can think of off the top of my head is Bjork. :P

also, nothing is sexier than cold weather and a shared coverings by a fire... and have you ever heard of the term sweater puppies??? :P

I became numb to the "beauty" of snow....from all the damn cold!!

And what in the world are sweater puppies?? I grew up in the north and have never heard this term.

[logos]

I don't care about "perfectly shaped" I'd just like to see skin, or at least curves!

That's what I'm talking about - numb to seeing skin. :p

And what in the world are sweater puppies?? I grew up in the north and have never heard this term.

Also notice the list of "sweater ---" terms on the left.

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[Hdier]

The operative word is "untouched" – how long does that happen. My preference would be to look at snow on a calendar, or on the Discovery Channel – not in my backyard, or on my car.

Actually, I have seen untouched snow a lot lately, though there was touched snow right next to it. It seems that people actually walk on the sidewalk when the 'grassy' area has become snowy. Plus, it feels so wonderful to be in bed with the blankets around you, nice and warm, when you know how freezing it is outside. Kind of like when it's raining outside.

[rwyatt365]

Actually, I have seen untouched snow a lot lately, though there was touched snow right next to it. It seems that people actually walk on the sidewalk when the 'grassy' area has become snowy. Plus, it feels so wonderful to be in bed with the blankets around you, nice and warm, when you know how freezing it is outside. Kind of like when it's raining outside.
If I were independently wealthy and I never had to venture out, unless I just wanted to, then perhaps I could learn to love snow. To look out my window and admire the blanketed hillside of my multi-acre estate, then schuss down the powdered slopes of Aspen or Telluride (sp?) where my cook has prepared a hot-chocolate drink for me and my picture-perfect mate. But...

I have to get up at 0-fuck-thirty AM and look out at the grey-white, slush-covered street and try to revive myself for the daily grind. Then I have to slog through rush-hour traffic with a bunch of morons that panic at the sight of a snoflake and endure my car being salt-encrusted (courtesy of the municipal gov't) for the umpteenth time. And the only time that I get to snuggle in bed is when I'm sick with a cold.

I hate winter! :thumbsdown:

[Lucid]

I have to get up at 0-fuck-thirty AM and look out at the grey-white, slush-covered street and try to revive myself for the daily grind. Then I have to slog through rush-hour traffic with a bunch of morons that panic at the sight of a snoflake and endure my car being salt-encrusted (courtesy of the municipal gov't) for the umpteenth time. And the only time that I get to snuggle in bed is when I'm sick with a cold.

I hate winter! :thumbsdown:

I feel you. Even though I like snow, there's nothing worse than having to get up at 0-fuck-thirty and scrape it off your car and then fight through the morons who freak out at the sight of it.
Although, I'm so used to driving in snow that I can kind of relax and go with it. It can be enjoyable if you don't have to do it in traffic.

It's snowing here now! Yay!

[WavesSootheMe]

I feel you. Even though I like snow, there's nothing worse than having to get up at 0-fuck-thirty and scrape it off your car and then fight through the morons who freak out at the sight of it.

I think this is part of the reason I haven't move back to CO. I'm so spoiled by SoCal. My worst weather concern involves putting on a sweater over my tank top and maybe some cold toes wearing flip flops in the rain. Driving in the snow in CO would be quite a shock. I did love the snow in the French Alps. I didn't mind bundling up at all, but in the valley we didn't get too much of it and I just took the tram everywhere.

[Lucid]

I think this is part of the reason I haven't move back to CO. I'm so spoiled by SoCal. My worst weather concern involves putting on a sweater over my tank top and maybe some cold toes wearing flip flops in the rain. Driving in the snow in CO would be quite a shock. I did love the snow in the French Alps. I didn't mind bundling up at all, but in the valley we didn't get too much of it and I just took the tram everywhere.

I don't mind bundling up in CO. I think because I've always lived here and layering to be prepared for any weather situation that may arise during the day is kind of ingrained in me. Also, I keep 2 jackets in my car.
I find that driving in the snow is somewhat zen-like. It can be very soothing under the right circumstances.

But honestly, the best thing about snow is having to go scrape your car off and trudge through it and get all freezing cold and drive through slush and idiots... and then being able to come inside the house and take off your jacket and have hot chocolate.

Oh, and hot tubs.

[The Rose]

Hot tubs... and fireplaces...

[TruorTupnm]

See? Cold is better. Whoops for not holding up my end of the tirade, but I am working in the evil Florida and dealing with the millions who are crazily fleeing the rightness of the north.

Anyways, unless you own a cold weather clothing business, sure, I would admit that you are most probably losing more time and money than you're gaining. Why not? Um, but same for all of those greedy swimsuit salesmen? It's not that large of a deal, either way, though. Just buy some clothes and try not to lose them before the next winter. Some people insist on getting new clothes for every season, because they are crazy, I guess.

How's about ---> Crunching your way through snow to your door, tearing off your hat, scarf, jacket, gloves, and whatever else, tossing them in a designated spot, taking your boots off, and sighing once seated in a comfortable chair alongside some yummy and warm sort of refreshment

Versus ---> Stumbling your way down some pavement radiating with heat, sweating all over the place, feeling all sticky, smelling all nasty, wearing as little as possible and attempting to avoid contact with everything lest it scorch you or just remind you of how gross and sticky you are, you barely make it inside before collapsing on the floor, which provides you with tiny bits of things (if you don't vacuum regularly, I guess) to show off your nasty stickiness, you can't sit down or do much until you grab a cold beverage, but you'll also be preoccupied with your nastiness, probably gots to peel your now-sickening clothes off and take a shower.

^--- An entirely unbiased and common example of how heat is evil. Heat kills. Cold sustains. My evil roommate has turned the heat on, and it is not even sixty degrees outside.

My main reason for loving the cold is totally the fact that most despise it. During my "Bah!" as well as, "Humbug!" rants, I usually mention that my favorite time of year is after the new year and before Valentine's Day starts showing up. People are miserable and quiet. I am at my most cheerful. :rolleyes:

Also, what's wrong with woolen socks? Comfy. Usually accompanied by boots, which are better than flip-flops, which are asking for a rusty nail, apparently.

[Thistle]

*dancing*

It's snowing here (Scotland) today - soooooooooooo pretty at the moment...... so brown and slushy tomorrow :-(

[Lucid]

*dancing*

It's snowing here (Scotland) today - soooooooooooo pretty at the moment...... so brown and slushy tomorrow :-(

It blizzarded here yesterday. Today it's all sunny andsuper white and bright.

I'd take brown and slushy.

[Thistle]

It blizzarded here yesterday. Today it's all sunny andsuper white and bright.

I'd take brown and slushy.

But apart from the glare from white snow (which can be sorted by sun-glasses), brown and slushy has all the same impracticalities... only looks...well.... disgusting.

I can see the old ruins of a castle from my lounge - it's sparkling against the crisp night sky - winter has arrived!

[Lucid]

I can see the old ruins of a castle from my lounge - it's sparkling against the crisp night sky - winter has arrived!

I'm rather jealous. I have the Rocky Mountains and they're nice and all, but noticeably lacking in the castle ruins department. :undecided:

[Thistle]

I'm rather jealous. I have the Rocky Mountains and they're nice and all, but noticeably lacking in the castle ruins department. :undecided:

Rocky Mountains are better than 'nice'!

The most magical quality about snow is that it makes (almost) anything look pretty.

[WavesSootheMe]

Rocky Mountains are better than 'nice'!

The most magical quality about snow is that it makes (almost) anything look pretty.

I'd take the Rockies over a castle any day, though both are better than the concrete jungle and lights I see from my balcony (actually it's a great view at night, but in my opinion it doesn't compare).

[Lucid]

I'd take the Rockies over a castle any day, though both are better than the concrete jungle and lights I see from my balcony (actually it's a great view at night, but in my opinion it doesn't compare).

Maybe I'm just used to the mountains.

[Hdier]

I'd want Castle Ruins on the Rockies. Otherwise, I'd take the ruins, because they are so fun to explore (I assume).

[WavesSootheMe]

Maybe I'm just used to the mountains.

Don't take them for granted! I can't even explain how much I miss them!

[The Rose]

Maybe I'm just used to the mountains.I think it's human nature to take for granted those things we see every day. The only time we tend to see it with fresh eyes is when someone else voices their appreciation.

[deicruxified]

i love living in an archipelago... (minus the typhoon and humidity)

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[rwyatt365]

How's about ---> Crunching your way through snow to your door, tearing off your hat, scarf, jacket, gloves, and whatever else, tossing them in a designated spot, taking your boots off, and sighing once seated in a comfortable chair alongside some yummy and warm sort of refreshment
How about slipping on an ice-covered walkway and dumping your groceries all over the ground and breaking a container of orange juice only to have it freeze onto the driveway (where you now it'll attract all sorts of creatures that will lurk for the rest of the winter because now they think you're feeding them). Then gathering up the remains and taking off your boots by the back door into the pile of other boots that are there shedding melted snow all over the floor. Then arguing with your SO (and the children) about where the thermostat is set (they want it up high 'cause they're cold, but you want it low 'cause the heating bill will be astronomical). Finally, you collapse, exhausted, onto the couch too tired to go fix a warm refreshment – you just want it all to go away.

Versus ---> Stumbling your way down some pavement radiating with heat, sweating all over the place, feeling all sticky, smelling all nasty, wearing as little as possible and attempting to avoid contact with everything lest it scorch you or just remind you of how gross and sticky you are, you barely make it inside before collapsing on the floor, which provides you with tiny bits of things (if you don't vacuum regularly, I guess) to show off your nasty stickiness, you can't sit down or do much until you grab a cold beverage, but you'll also be preoccupied with your nastiness, probably gots to peel your now-sickening clothes off and take a shower.
Versus strolling down the sidewalk enjoying the sun-warmed pavement and the deliciously warm breeze waft the pleasant smell of new-cut grass through the air. You say "hi" to the scantily-clad teens that giggle their way past you. Then you sit for a while on the front porch to admire the azure-blue sky and the puffy white clouds for a while before going inside to grab an ice-cold drink from the fridge and sip it with relish. Then you toss on your sun-hat and jump in the car for a quick, cooling drive through the countryside – just enough to brush the sweat away with a nice little breeze. But don't forget to pack up a sandwich, or two and a few cold ones so that you can stop by the river, or the lake and watch the sunset and have an impromptu picnic. Ah, summer!

My main reason for loving the cold is totally the fact that most despise it. During my "Bah!" as well as, "Humbug!" rants, I usually mention that my favorite time of year is after the new year and before Valentine's Day starts showing up. People are miserable and quiet. I am at my most cheerful.
I am a true INTJ, I can make people miserable and quiet any time of the year! ;)

Also, what's wrong with woolen socks? Comfy. Usually accompanied by boots, which are better than flip-flops, which are asking for a rusty nail, apparently.
Woolen socks accumulate sweat, especially in boots that are closed up all day, leading to stinky feet. :scared:

I'd want Castle Ruins on the Rockies. Otherwise, I'd take the ruins, because they are so fun to explore (I assume).
I'd want castle ruins in Hawaii!

i love living in an archipelago... (minus the typhoon and humidity)
*envious drool* even with the typhoon & humidity!

[TruorTupnm]

Towards alternate versions ---> Ack! The misfortune described has less to do with the weather and more to do with negligence. You're always supposed to pay attention to where you're going. There could be traps. You're always supposed to cling jealously to whatever you're holding. Humans steal stuff all of the time. Sure, arguing about thermostats is annoying, but will happen in any weather. If they don't see the sense you're making, you are to pity them, not get especially annoyed. Also, collapsing on the couch without the warm beverage is still nicer than being unable to touch the couch due to being all hot as well as sweaty (in the summer or pretty much anytime in the evil Florida).

Versus ---> Sun-warmed? More like sun-blasted, sun-bombarded, death-dealing, eye-melting, wave after wave of suffocating heat! Deliciously warm breeze? Deliciously warm breeze? Ugh! What is such a breeze? Deliciously warm? Oxymoronic! Eh. The smell of freshly cut grass is inoffensive, I guess. :rolleyes: Anyways, interacting with any sort of human that might ever giggle? Ick. Sit on the front porch? In the heat? Why? Admire the obnoxiously blue sky as well as sickeningly perfect as well as poofy cloudses? No, thanks. Hand me some gray skies or some night. Sipping your ice-cold beverage? In the middle of the sweltering brand of heat? You should be diving for shelter, then gulping water to survive! And lastly, choosing to prolong misery via useless outside activities? Yep, you crazy, as was earlier hypothesized.

Heat is not pleasant. Heat oppresses. Beats down on you. You should glare at it from your cool laboratory wherein you perfect your robot body. I could see hanging around outside during colder weather, though. Now, you could find some deliciously refreshing cool breezes. That makes sense. What's more fun? A snowball fight or a water gun battle? Even if you stick red food coloring in your water, snowball fights are better.

[rwyatt365]

Obviously TruorTupnm, your bio-conditioning, temperature compensation units have been compromised and you are suffering from hypothermia-induced hallucinations and cold-centric visions. You can be repaired, we have the technology. Please report to INTJ-bot repair bay 31-Delta and open your service access ports, the doctor will be with you soon.

Until then…think of this; if mankind were meant to be cold why are we, as a species, so ill-equipped for it? Naked, low amounts of subcutaneous fat, no anti-freeze compounds in the bloodstream, no hibernation instinct/mechanism. We were made for the tropical heat, we only live in the cold because the military-industrial complex demands it.

We have only adopted the INTJ mindset because of over-exposure to grey, cloudy days, ice and snow and temperatures below 65-degrees F. INTJ is a coping mechanism that the true human master-race is using to combat the decadent, corrupt, cold-loving humanoids that want to keep us subjugated in cold-storage for all eternity.

Release your mind from the deep-freeze! Throw off the shackles of the sub-zero! Reject the ignominy of icicles! Think heat, think warmth, think sunshine! Everybody Loves the Sunshine (say Roy Ayres), Get In the Sun (says Joan Armatrading), Hot Fun in the Summertime (says Sly & the Family Stone)! Will you ignore these prophets, these troubadours of truth?! Don't give into the cold, there is hope.

[The Rose]

How about slipping on an ice-covered walkway and dumping your groceries all over the ground and breaking a container of orange juice only to have it freeze onto the driveway (where you now it'll attract all sorts of creatures that will lurk for the rest of the winter because now they think you're feeding them). Then gathering up the remains and taking off your boots by the back door into the pile of other boots that are there shedding melted snow all over the floor. Then arguing with your SO (and the children) about where the thermostat is set (they want it up high 'cause they're cold, but you want it low 'cause the heating bill will be astronomical). Finally, you collapse, exhausted, onto the couch too tired to go fix a warm refreshment – you just want it all to go away....Poor you! That's awful! Okay, you have the right to hate snow. You've been there, done that, got the trophy! ;)

[rwyatt365]

Poor you! That's awful! Okay, you have the right to hate snow. You've been there, done that, got the trophy! ;)
Thanks The Rose *with "poor me" puppy-dog sympathy eyes* :rolleyes:

[TruorTupnm]

*eyes widen with terror for a second* Could it be true? *knowledge (or programming) kicks in* But wait! We are made for the cold! More specifically, we come equipped with the inner flame: Creativity, intelligence, ambition, inventiveness, and stuff like that. We are to explore and understand all, yes? Don't look back to the archaic warm spots! The poles, the ocean floors, outer space! Yay cold! Winter evokes adventure! Summer imposes nausea. Also, *kicks a puppy* :rolleyes:

[Hdier]

What does SO stand for?

[Lucid]

What does SO stand for?

significant other

[rwyatt365]

Over the past two days the weather here has "soared" into the mid to upper 30's (degrees F) so much of the snow has disappeared (thankfully). Here in Michigan – at least where I live – the threatened ice storms were mild to non-existent. That means that my snow-hater's hardened heart has thawed somewhat. Now don't think for a moment that I will start singing the virtues of snow – that ain't gonna happen – it's just that my agonized screams of anguish are silenced (for now).

There are 4 more months of artic expectations, so I will have plenty more opportunities to wail anew.

So, stay tuned buckaroo's!!

[Hdier]

In Omaha, there is still about an inch of snow on the ground, and yesterday we (Westside schools) had a snow day in anticipation of a giant storm!!!

:weep:The storm didn't hit. :cry:

[Solaris]

Over the past two days the weather here has "soared" into the mid to upper 30's (degrees F) so much of the snow has disappeared (thankfully). Here in Michigan – at least where I live – the threatened ice storms were mild to non-existent. That means that my snow-hater's hardened heart has thawed somewhat. Now don't think for a moment that I will start singing the virtues of snow – that ain't gonna happen – it's just that my agonized screams of anguish are silenced (for now).

There are 4 more months of artic expectations, so I will have plenty more opportunities to wail anew.

So, stay tuned buckaroo's!!

It's been in the mid 70s here all week. It's basically the kind of weather I experienced while it was July in the Adirondack Mountains....except now it's Christmas time and this is weird. It's the closest to Christmas in July I've ever seen...but hey, I'll take the nice weather!

[rwyatt365]

This morning I woke up to about 6-inches of new snow on the ground, the house...everything! Needless to say, I was thoroughly disgusted. I'm so beyond myself with words that I'll just leave you with a few pictures to show you what it did to my poor little car;

[HarleyQuinn]

I know the feeling. Up here we already had about 6-8" of snow that hadn't melted from the last attack. Now last night into this morning we've gotten about 4-5" added on. The snow is up to my knees in terms of walking through it (that was prior to the plows clearing the roads on campus).

I'm disgusted at the idea of having to clean the snow off my car before driving home on Tuesday because that'll take a good 20-30 minutes alone.

[Booko]

i'll trade florida humidity for some nice cold snow any day

I'll trade Jawja humidity and our severe drought for snow any day as well.

I'm aiming to move back to Michigan when I retire. Who could afford to when you have to have a steady job to support yourself. :rolleyes:

It was 78 degrees and sunny a couple of days ago. We finally got a little cool weather.

Also, winter here is very very grey and it's still too cold to go sit outside and hang about.

I'd take some nice clean-looking snow any day.

Besides, I always enjoyed being snowed in.

[rwyatt365]

I'll trade Jawja humidity and our severe drought for snow any day as well.
Booko, I'll take Jawja humidity 24/7/365 gladly! I actually thrive in the heat and humidity. When we get some of those 100-degree/100% humidity days (which is quite often in the summer, being in the "Great Lakes State") I love it. People would stare at me when I put on my leather jacket, boots, gloves and helmet to ride my motorcycle on those days. They would say, "Aren't you hot?" to which I would reply "Only when I stop, and I don't intend to stop!" The A/C in my car is broken, and I don’t have any desire to fix it.

I LOVE THE HEAT!! I don’t mind sweating. And I can douse myself in the shower if I start to reek. And the best feeling in the world is to have a slight breeze blow across naked skin on a hot summer's night (well…almost the best).

Having said that, I am miserable (as I tend to be every winter). There is 10-inches of snow on the ground – thanks to the storm from a day ago – and none of it is the pristine, poster-card snow, it's that dingy-grey, piled-up from shoveling, "damn, I hate this crap" snow. The one and only bright spot is that I can legitimately do power-slides in my car without people casting aspersions at me. I can pretend I'm a WRC driver ("Here's Sebastian Loeb in his Citroen Xsara cresting a rise in Stage 2 of the Finnish World Rally") and get away with it. but, alas, that is not enough to relieve the drudgery of winter and snow.

PS – one doesn't get "snowed in" very often, nor for very long. Around here, they don't cut us any slack. "If the snow plows and salt trucks can run, then so can you", is the motto.

[Solaris]

This morning, it was in the low thirties here. There was a slight chance that there *may be* *some* wet snow mixed in the precip during the morning. This was apparently big enough for the weather channel to label it a "sever weather warning" on their website. I laughed. I love how "severe" weather includes even the slight possibility that wet snow might potentially reach the ground.

[Ytterbium]

I live in Sweden, and there is nothing worse than snow. I absolutely despise it. I spend half the winters having colds, and the other halves of them I am cold myself. I seriously need to move out of this country.No snow is fun! I live outside Stockholm, it's coastal weather without snow right now. Cant wait to take the car for a spin.

[aude]

Hehe i love the winter months. ITs cold and i dont have to worry about going anywhere if i dont need too. As well i have r/sad so in the winter i get a hell of lot more sleep then i need. But i also like being cold for some odd reason, its more comfortable for me

[Ytterbium]

2nd that ^
I like cold more than hot. You can't run away from heat but you can do from cold.
If it's warm tuff luck, but if it's cold put an extra shirt on or dance a little bit.

[Lucid]

2nd that ^
I like cold more than hot. You can't run away from heat but you can do from cold.
If it's warm tuff luck, but if it's cold put an extra shirt on or dance a little bit.

Exactly. Nothing short of A/C will help you if it's hot, but you can always pile another layer of coats on in the winter to keep warm.

[WavesSootheMe]

Today is beautiful: crisp air, warm sun :) I've spent most of it reading at a park with an ocean view. No A/C or heater required! Aren't those the best days?

[Lucid]

Today is beautiful: crisp air, warm sun :) I've spent most of it reading at a park with an ocean view. No A/C or heater required! Aren't those the best days?

I think the whole "No A/C or heater required" thing only really works if you have a handy coast. I think we get maybe 4 of those days a year in CO. (As you probably know :))
I am envious of your weather. It's been about 20 degrees all week here.

[Paul V]

Mandatory snow-lover defiance:

Oh the weather outside is frightful,
But the fire is so delightful,
And since we've no place to go,
Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!

It doesn't show signs of stopping,
And I've bought some corn for popping,
The lights are turned down low,
Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!

When we finally kiss goodnight,
How I'll hate going out in the storm!
But if you'll really hold me tight,
All the way home I'll be warm.

The fire is slowly dying,
And, my dear, we're still good-bying,
But as long as you love me so,
Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!

[rwyatt365]

Today was (and still is) about as lovely an early winter's day as you'll see in Michigan for a long time. The temperature is in the mid-50's and the (hated, dreaded) snow cannot stand up to the onslaught of warmth (blessed warmth). Those ugly piles of crystalline water are disintegrating rapidly – and the people rejoiced (at least I rejoiced)! I know that this godsend will not last, but I am appreciative of it nonetheless.

[Lucid]

Today was (and still is) about as lovely an early winter's day as you'll see in Michigan for a long time. The temperature is in the mid-50's and the (hated, dreaded) snow cannot stand up to the onslaught of warmth (blessed warmth). Those ugly piles of crystalline water are disintegrating rapidly – and the people rejoiced (at least I rejoiced)! I know that this godsend will not last, but I am appreciative of it nonetheless.

Hmm... I'm supposed to get snow tonight. Nice when everyone gets their wish :)

[Antares]

I love winter and I love the snow, but it's ALWAYS gloomy and overly cloudy in Shanghai. Now add that with near-freezing temperature, no snow, and dirtiness on the streets... I love skiing though, and Swiss winters are almost always beautiful, sunny or snowing.

[BadMojo]

Ok, this time of the year I really start to go nuts. The reason – cold weather, especially SNOW! I hate winter because of ice, and snow, and cold, and winter coats, and shoveling, and warming your car up, and I can't ride my motorcycle, and…pant, pant, pant. :cry:

All of that crap about "brisk" winter breezes, and winter sports, and Holiday Seasons is just a steaming pile of media hype designed to lull us into a false sense of complacency so that we can all die in an apocalyptic ice-age eco-disaster! What's good about; wind-chill factors, dirty slush, dogs pissing in snowbanks, power outages because of ice storms, avalanches, glaciers, postmen falling on ice-covered porches? Nothing, that's what! Winter is an assault to the senses and an abomination before [insert your preferred spiritual deity here].

So for all of you snowboarding, ice skating, skiing, bobsledding cold-freaks I say, "Bleh!" (sorry for the offensive language, blame it on the snow). And for all of you selfish, hot-weather, tropical people I ask, "What's up with that?" Is the sun so small that you can't share a little? Gotta hoard it all for yourselves? Turn on a fan, or something – blow a little of that heat northward, why don't you. There's enough to go around, don’t be so stingy! Walking around with your asses hanging out all year around, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Keep it up and I'll send an iceberg down there! See how you like that?!!

Saturday it snowed here – it was just 2 inches but enough to activate my snow-hater response. Thank god it warmed up and rained and washed all of that crap off the face of the earth. Then it snowed lightly this morning, just enough to piss me off again.

I know there's more to come. This snow-crap just doesn't stop. It's gonna be a long winter.


Ahahahaha! Now I know - You're just angry because you lost your snow blower LOL :laugh:

I can't wait for snow.

[rwyatt365]

Ahahahaha! Now I know - You're just angry because you lost your snow blower LOL :laugh:

I can't wait for snow.
That is a contributing factor, but not the root cause. I think I was assaulted by a Zamboni at an early age and my hate of most things cold stemmed from that. I don't have evidence 'cause the police records are sealed.

[Lucid]

That is a contributing factor, but not the root cause. I think I was assaulted by a Zamboni at an early age and my hate of most things cold stemmed from that. I don't have evidence 'cause the police records are sealed.

Zamboni is one of my favorite words.

What I really hate is the cold as fuck but sunny days and we're getting a rash of those now where I live. All week the high has been between 15 and 25 degrees. And SUNNY. It's like the worst of both worlds. :irked:

[rwyatt365]

What I really hate is the cold as fuck but sunny days and we're getting a rash of those now where I live. All week the high has been between 15 and 25 degrees. And SUNNY. It's like the worst of both worlds. :irked:
Yeah, same here. But I can tolerate the cold (barely) as long as there is no snow.

Right now, it has all melted away - two weeks ago there was record warmth and it all melted (*does happy dance*). But I'm sure that that bastard snow is waiting in the wings to pounce while we're not looking!

[Lucid]

Yeah, same here. But I can tolerate the cold (barely) as long as there is no snow.

Right now, it has all melted away - two weeks ago there was record warmth and it all melted (*does happy dance*). But I'm sure that that bastard snow is waiting in the wings to pounce while we're not looking!

Where I live we usually get snow one day and then it's 60 degrees the next and it all melts. But right now we've had the same snow for like 5 weeks now because of the steady cold temperatures (although it hasn't been this cold for most of that). Maybe that's why I kind of like it. It's fun for a day and then it's gone!

[Solaris]

I moved to the south to get away from snow. GO AWAY snow!! argh.

[Blacklustre King]

Too hot is worse then cold and I love it cold, dark, and humid.

[rwyatt365]

Today the snow crept in while I was asleep (who says snow isn't bad when it can't face you in the day, but sneaks in overnight like a thief). It must have surprised the city salt crews because there wasn't a truck in sight. The morning drive was agonizing, 35-40MPH on the freeway!

So now I've got to endure more of this crap for who knows how long. It looks like the temps are going to stay below freezing, so it won't go away any time soon.

I hate snow!

[Lucid]

Today the snow crept in while I was asleep (who says snow isn't bad when it can't face you in the day, but sneaks in overnight like a thief). It must have surprised the city salt crews because there wasn't a truck in sight. The morning drive was agonizing, 35-40MPH on the freeway!

So now I've got to endure more of this crap for who knows how long. It looks like the temps are going to stay below freezing, so it won't go away any time soon.

I hate snow!

*brings you hot chocolate with marshmallows.*

I started my semester this week and the high has been between 15 and 20. I have to leave my house at 7 am (which is no kind of civilized hour for a person to be out and about no matter how warm it is) and the thermostat in my car is broken... so no heat. Let me tell you how much fun Tuesday morning's commute was.

[Ytterbium]

Too hot is worse then cold and I love it cold, dark, and humid.No, if it's cold the worst that could happen is humidity. Makes you freeze even more. Cold and dry air for me please.

[BlueTopaz]

Yea, I'm in Florida and I love it. I grew up in Denver and lived in Connecticut and Denver is better; it could be zero one day and 70 F the next. Connecticut is just cold, damp and grey from November to April.

Here it is nice and sunny and not too hot (right now).

[rwyatt365]

Dammit! It did it again!!

I woke up this morning and there was MORE SNOW! More sneaky, despicable, cold, snow! I was going to get up this morning and run some errands, but now I'll just stay in and mope. Who wants to go out and slip and slide around all day - I'll just wait for the road crews to clear the major roads.

I hate snow - I will not repent!

[Lucid]

Yea, I'm in Florida and I love it. I grew up in Denver and lived in Connecticut and Denver is better; it could be zero one day and 70 F the next. Connecticut is just cold, damp and grey from November to April.

Here it is nice and sunny and not too hot (right now).

Yay Denver!! ;D

[WavesSootheMe]

It's been raining here lately, much more than Southern Californians are used to - except maybe during El Nino. Living in Long Beach just west of LA you would never think it, but we have a beautiful view of snow covered mountains from our east-facing balcony. It's a little hazy and it's not as gorgeous as my view in the Alps, but it's still a shockingly beautiful non-ocean view from this concrete jungle gym. It makes me want to drive up the mountains so that I'm surrounded by it. I'm not saying that I would want to live in snow all winter, but I wouldn't want to live without it all winter either.

[anul]

Yesterday I was stuck in the snow because Saskatchewan doesn't believe in shoulders on the road like most civilized western society, like the United States. I was with my brother in law and we were able to get the car out of the snow. The winters in Saskatchewan are miserable and I have no idea why humans would want to live here. It's so cold and snowy, and they don't salt the roads like they do in civilized places! It's also terribly windy, but everyone says to me, "you're from Chicago, must be pretty windy there." Then I explain to them how it's just as windy here because the city is surrounded by prairies where Chicago has Lake Michigan to the East. Then they just stare at me blankly.

[AgentofGaming]

School is closed, I went to school today...

20-30cm of snow, pelted by ice pellets waiting for a bus then 2 hours standing on a bus @ 5km/h, a ride on the subway and ... the University says it's closing when I get there at 11 :thinking:

Came home with wet ankles and a badly spend 4 and a 1/2 hours...
At least I didn't get transit trapped, but I wish they could have made up their minds about closing before I got there. :rolleyes:

[rwyatt365]

Last night the weather channel was ablaze with news of a "MAJOR SNOWSTORM". We were supposed to get 3-5 inches of wet snow between midnight Friday and 7AM, and then they were expecting 4-6 additional inches throughout the day. I was horrified :scared:!! So I rushed home after work on Thursday, took out my snow-tires and replaced my (highly cool looking) custom wheels and Ultra-High Performance tires with the snows, in preparation for the impending storm.

Ths morning (Friday) I woke early, expecting to find an accursed blanket of new fallen snow covering everything. Well, there was snow, but more like 1-2 inches instead of 3-5. I crossed my fingers and hoped for the best as I slogged my way to work amongst the unwashed masses on the freeway. The less said about that, the better

As I sat at work, periodically the "snow emergency alert" sirens could be heard in the distance. "Oh great!", I think, "This crap is coming down hard enough to trigger a Snow Emergency!" I can't concentrate on work because I'm trying to figure how I'm going to get home, and how long will it take.

Come lunch-time I look outside, expecting to see monumental drifts and white-out conditions - and I see...nothing?!! :huh:

No mile-high drifts, no 10 inches of snow burying the cars, no horizontal snowfall - nothing. I wasn't disappointed, I was pissed off! How could they get this so wrong? How could they spread mass panic for 2 inches of snow. This is Michigan for crissake!! :angry:

Yeah, I'll have to shovel the driveway when I get home, but what a piss-poor "Snow Emergency" - this storm was a p***y!

[PortInStorm]

Yep, same here. I was hunkering down, feel asleep expected the apocalyse in the morning, and just a crunchy layer of icy snow! It's snowing softly now, but nothing to write home about. However, I was disappointed... :-)

Anul, how are you guys surviving with those record lows out west? (I'm in Ontario). And since this is a "lighthearted" part of the forum I'll try not to take offense that you've implied Canada isn't civilized and that the States is the epitome of the same. And hey, be thankful your vegetation isn't ravaged by salt like here- and it's not the best having dirty slush seeping into your shoes under cloudy skies. Give me the compacted bright white snow and sun of the Praries...

Agent, my university closed at 11 too- why DO they wait? Would anyone seriously object to the odd snow day?

[AgentofGaming]

Yeah, I'll have to shovel the driveway when I get home, but what a piss-poor "Snow Emergency" - this storm was a p***y!

Really bad emergency you guys had ;) We got 4X more snow and no emergency.
Hmm shoveling snow, good thing I live in a highrise.

Yep, same here. I was hunkering down, feel asleep expected the apocalyse in the morning, and just a crunchy layer of icy snow! It's snowing softly now, but nothing to write home about. However, I was disappointed... :-)

Anul, how are you guys surviving with those record lows out west? (I'm in Ontario). And since this is a "lighthearted" part of the forum I'll try not to take offense that you've implied Canada isn't civilized and that the States is the epitome of the same. And hey, be thankful your vegetation isn't ravaged by salt like here- and it's not the best having dirty slush seeping into your shoes under cloudy skies. Give me the compacted bright white snow and sun of the Praries...

Agent, my university closed at 11 too- why DO they wait? Would anyone seriously object to the odd snow day?

Out West? They have -50... without windchill, that's why I'm thankful I don't live in Saskatchewan/Alberta.

Don't worry about people thinking Canada is a country of lumberjacks and French speakers, this isn't "that" kind of forum. Not as many people live out in the prairies so they decided to save on the extra lane construction and maintenance.

Salt is bad for the environment but Toronto's almost bankrupt so what can they do.
As for hostile environment wait till February everything melts and freezes up again and we have ice land, or March slushy muddy floody fields.
Wednesday was sure windy though up to 120km/h, I felt like the wind could tip me over.

University of Toronto & TDSB open day in day out, rain or snow like the postal services. We are Canadian a little snow doesn't hurt.

11 too? hmm, do you goto UofT St. George?

[PortInStorm]

I was going to ask if you go to Brock :-) Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ.

[Lucid]

Last night we had something the local news terned "thundersnow." To me, that sounds like the name of a 6'7", 350 lb albino drag queen.
Turns out it's snow/rain with thunder and lightening. Weird.

[Solaris]

Last night we had something the local news terned "thundersnow." To me, that sounds like the name of a 6'7", 350 lb albino drag queen.
Turns out it's snow/rain with thunder and lightening. Weird.

I've seen that plenty of times. However, I've never heard that term. Lucid, I much prefer your version of it. I guess though if weather jargon contains "thundershowers" then it can contain "thundersnows" as well. But still, I don't like it.

[rwyatt365]

Last night we had something the local news terned "thundersnow." To me, that sounds like the name of a 6'7", 350 lb albino drag queen.
...with big thighs! :thumbsup: (I shall retain that image forever)

The latest long-range forecast has the temperatures slowly climbing through this week. The accursed snow will die a slow and horrible death. Die, you icy hoard, die! I will cavort in glee when the last crystal "breathes" it's last in a pool of water. ;D

[PortInStorm]

Wow, the hatred knows no bounds!

[Solaris]

...with big thighs! :thumbsup: (I shall retain that image forever)

The latest long-range forecast has the temperatures slowly climbing through this week. The accursed snow will die a slow and horrible death. Die, you icy hoard, die! I will cavort in glee when the last crystal "breathes" it's last in a pool of water. ;D

You could always help it do that. I mean really show that snow how to piss off -- if you know what I mean.

[rwyatt365]

Wow, the hatred knows no bounds!
Snow-hate is a deeply ingrained thing which has no boundaries.

[PortInStorm]

You could always help it do that. I mean really show that snow how to piss off -- if you know what I mean.
lol! I wanted my husband to 'write' a girl's name just to mess with ppls' heads.

[AgentofGaming]

argh... school bus got stuck, bus got stuck, oil carrying truck got stuck up the hill.
Delayed for one hour standing on a bus on a single lane. Missed a lecture :(

[rwyatt365]

After two days of pissing around, the snow has finally arrived (again)! It's not the major, crippling snowfall that was being trumpeted by the newscasters, but it was a respectable dump (if snow can EVER be respectable) of about 4 inches.

It started with rain that transitioned to sleet and then into snow. And, of course, it all began about an hour before rush-hour so that every panic stricken, peanut-brained, lily-livered (?!!) retard east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon Line had enough time to travel to Detroit and meet up on the freeways. My 20-minute commute home turned into a 90-minute torture-fest. You folks that live in places where snow is a rarity and the entire city shuts down at the mere thought of it have it easy. Up here, nothing stops unless the snow is 10-inches or more, or there's an ice-storm and half the city's power is out.

Damn all of this Snowbird Fortitude, I want snow days!! :angry:

And what I hate most of all…I'll have to keep my snow tires on for at least another week. For a guy with a semi-hot rodded sports car, that's cruel and unusual punishment! Instead of swooping around freeway entrance ramps I wallow like a beached whale (not really, but it sure feels like that). I can't clip the apex of corners, I have to tiptoe around them like a old geezer (no comments from the peanut gallery please). My car doesn't look purposeful and aggressive, it looks wimpy and cute (oh, the ignominy). I live in disgrace and humiliation for 3-4 months a year. It's all I can do not to commit seppuku!

So I sit at home and await the end of winter, the death of snow. February is here (1/3 gone now), spring is soon to come. But I cannot relax and abandon my vigil. Who stands against the "flakey" horde but me?! The snow shall not prevail! Victory against snow! Warmth is our destiny!! :thumbsup:

[PortInStorm]

Agent, school MUST have been closed yesterday. You got, what, 50 cm? We got mostly freezing rain. *grabs "toque" and heads outside to continue chipping out car*...............

*comes back in* Lily-livered , nice :thumbsup:

[AgentofGaming]

Agent, school MUST have been closed yesterday. You got, what, 50 cm? We got mostly freezing rain. *grabs "toque" and heads outside to continue chipping out car*...............

*comes back in* Lily-livered , nice :thumbsup:

Well it's about twice my ankle. so probably 20cm.
They should have close the school today not last Friday! This time I missed class.

Oh and snow melting is not a good! Slush/Puddle Traps! Crossing the streets involves jumping over the snowback, pass the slush, pass the puddle, over the street, passing the other puddle and leaping over the slush and climbing another snowbank.
You'd need to be a longjump champion not to get wet feet while watching for traffic. I got unfortunately soaked.

Lol I saw these on the news... revolutionary re-invention of the wheel to decrease back stress
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[PortInStorm]

What?! They didn't close the school? We got ousted at 5pm. And so true about the stupid puddles/slush... goes back to my salt beef a while back (mmm, Alberta beef). If the weather would just stay cold, we could pack it down and use sand like up north, but nooooo... it has to warm up and pour water into my basement so I had to move everything and dry almost every inch of the floor yesterday, whilst partaking in the job of ripping up underpadding. Now the bare carpet makes the floor feel like a second-rate rental in TO :-))) I'm so, so tired of wet feet while my hands are freezing scraping off everything in sight, grabbing onto things to keep from wiping out, wresting open the trunk (whereupon all the ice sheets slide into the trunk)- what a wierd combo.

And from what I see of the shovel, wouldn't you just end up pitching the snow onto your own head? Where's the angle? Do you need to really heave it to get it over your head and behind your back? And if so, doesn't that just cover over what you've already cleared?

[AgentofGaming]

It's UofT, they don't close if they know they can make your life worse.
but... TDSB is worse, I went to school in -40 C once and they only closed after lunch.

Puddles... I got wet footed again, the water seeps through my sneakers. Darn... it's a 1 and a 1 meter+ puddle...
What your basement got flooded? that sucks, but speaking of flooding (non-snow) my cousin flooder her whole condo floor and the floor below, I don't know how that went.

Shovelling shouldn't go over your head, that hurts the back. You wheelbarrow movement scoop it, lift and turn around and put it where you want I suppose. I live in a condominium for school semester so I don't have to shovel snow. :)

Out of Boredom... Feb. 6's overnight snowstorm... our family just had to go out for dinner...
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[anul]

Anul, how are you guys surviving with those record lows out west? (I'm in Ontario). And since this is a "lighthearted" part of the forum I'll try not to take offense that you've implied Canada isn't civilized and that the States is the epitome of the same. And hey, be thankful your vegetation isn't ravaged by salt like here- and it's not the best having dirty slush seeping into your shoes under cloudy skies. Give me the compacted bright white snow and sun of the Praries...


Saskatchewan is very civilized, it has electricity, indoor plumbing, and high speed internet. I was being a bit dramatic. I just moved to Saskatoon from Chicago, and Chicago is has a considerable amount more of tax dollars. Also Chicago was planed out with the car in mind. While Saskatoon was planed out with nothing in mind. Also coming from a city where winter road care is great. To Saskatoon that doesn't do anything to their roads except push it to the center, and throw sand down every week or so. I also hate the sound of compacting snow, and the blinding winter sun.

I didn't mean to insult Canada. I understand Canadians don't enjoy being made fun of by the States. Look on the bright side though if the North American Union ever happens we can all make fun of how useless Mexico is.

[AgentofGaming]

I was born in Saskatchewan, a bit too much farmland for my taste. I don't like how where I grew up it took hours just to get to a city. However there is definitely high-speed Internet and indoor plumbing unless you live in a very secluded rural area.

Talking about snow when I was 5 and lived in a town there the snow would go up to my hip, almost got buried once.

[PortInStorm]

Ahhh, that picture's enough to make your heart sick, isn't it?

That's OK, Anul. I've never been out to the Praries (have been to B.C.), but I hear it's .... different. ;-)

[rwyatt365]

Well, the forecasters have finally called it right. Last night the prediction was for 3-5 inches of snow and damned if there aren't about 4-5 inches out there now. The snowfall has tapered off considerably, but a few random flakes are trickling down...

...AND I'M TIRED OF IT!!

When will this travesty end? A couple of days and February will be over. A few weeks and the (alleged) start of Spring will be here. It's time for the temperature to start edging back into the realm of normalcy (i.e. anything above 60 degres F) - where ice only occurs in drinks, and "cold" is only there to make your bathwater not scald you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - the trees are covered in a blanket of new fallen snow, and the fields look like blankets. Blah, blah, blah. Save that for someone else. no matter how you cut it, snow sucks if you have to drive in it.

[Solaris]

Well, the forecasters have finally called it right. Last night the prediction was for 3-5 inches of snow and damned if there aren't about 4-5 inches out there now. The snowfall has tapered off considerably, but a few random flakes are trickling down...

...AND I'M TIRED OF IT!!

When will this travesty end? A couple of days and February will be over. A few weeks and the (alleged) start of Spring will be here. It's time for the temperature to start edging back into the realm of normalcy (i.e. anything above 60 degres F) - where ice only occurs in drinks, and "cold" is only there to make your bathwater not scald you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - the trees are covered in a blanket of new fallen snow, and the fields look like blankets. Blah, blah, blah. Save that for someone else. no matter how you cut it, snow sucks if you have to drive in it.

Would this be a bad time to tell you that trees are beginning to bloom and their leaf buds are growing fat? The lawn will soon need to be mowed (though how this can be with so little rain is beyond me). The temps are ...well they are still all over the place like they have been all winter, but mainly pleasant.

Get out your flame-thrower. Kill the wretched flu germs with it!! Some kind of rotten illness has attacked me and won, I'm very annoyed by this.

[Lucid]

Yeah, yeah, yeah - the trees are covered in a blanket of new fallen snow, and the fields look like blankets. Blah, blah, blah. Save that for someone else. no matter how you cut it, snow sucks if you have to drive in it.

I am beginning to agree with you, rwyatt. At least about the driving part.

This semester I have classes that start at 8 am every morning. So for the first time in over 10 years I have to fight my way through rush hour traffic every freaking day. And when it snows, even if it's less than an inch, even if the roads are perfectly dry, even if there's no ice, it adds AN HOUR to my commute. I live in Colorado!! If you live in Colorado you should be able to drive to wherever you're trying to get to in LESS THAN AN INCH of snow!! What is wrong with these freaking morons??? Today it took me an hour and a half to make my normally 30 minute commute and I never managed to get out of 3rd gear!! It's just snow! It's not the end of civilization! :irked:

[rwyatt365]

This semester I have classes that start at 8 am every morning. So for the first time in over 10 years I have to fight my way through rush hour traffic every freaking day. And when it snows, even if it's less than an inch, even if the roads are perfectly dry, even if there's no ice, it adds AN HOUR to my commute. I live in Colorado!! If you live in Colorado you should be able to drive to wherever you're trying to get to in LESS THAN AN INCH of snow!! What is wrong with these freaking morons??? Today it took me an hour and a half to make my normally 30 minute commute and I never managed to get out of 3rd gear!! It's just snow! It's not the end of civilization!
Welcome to my world! :thumbsup:

Twice over the past three weeks there were snow “storms”. Each time there was less than 2 inches of snow, but on both occasions people lost their freakin’ minds! This is Michigan, for crying out loud!!

The population here is divided into three camps; the hot-rods, the nervous nellies and the normals.

The hot-rods are typically driving SUV’s, or 4WD pickups with a sprinkling of FWD cars thrown in. These folks seem to think that the superior accelerative and tractive properties of their vehicles translate proportionally to the braking capabilities of the same. Consequently, they zoom around in traffic – ignoring the laws of physics – until they inevitably (and literally) run into a problem.

The nervous nellies typically drive small imports, or minivans. These people are afraid of…everything; snow, ice, global warming, red meat, small children, clowns, etc… You can usually spot them because their wipers are oscillating at the highest possible speed (even when the sun is shining). They often have to replace their brake light bulbs because of constant use. They are never actually IN accidents, they usually CAUSE accidents.

Like INTJs, the normals comprise less than 2% of the population. Like INTJs, the normals are typically more intelligent, sane and rational, and prepared for the conditions. Normals leave the house early when it snow. Normals drive at a reasonable rate of speed and allow plenty of space between vehicles. Normals brake gently and with even pressure to avoid slides. Normals are often blown off the road, or run into by hot-rods, or are forced into embankments and drainage ditches by nervous nellies. Normals call the other two types “morons”.

[yondyr]

aTo view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. it's been decades since I last saw snow, or even frost. Lovely fairy white dusting the trees bringing enchantment to the world..Buncha wusses.

[Lucid]

The hot-rods are typically driving SUV’s, or 4WD pickups with a sprinkling of FWD cars thrown in. These folks seem to think that the superior accelerative and tractive properties of their vehicles translate proportionally to the braking capabilities of the same. Consequently, they zoom around in traffic – ignoring the laws of physics – until they inevitably (and literally) run into a problem.

My god, we have this problem here too. When someone is tailgaiting less than a car's length behind you in a full-on, honest to god blizzard with white-out conditions... I mean seriously people. You really think your 4WD is going to be able to stop your 4 tons of Escalade or Nissan Armada (so big it's named after a whole fleet of Spanish war ships!) from slamming into the back of my car??? Too bad 4WD has nothing to do with your actual stopping capacity.

The nervous nellies typically drive small imports, or minivans. These people are afraid of…everything; snow, ice, global warming, red meat, small children, clowns, etc… You can usually spot them because their wipers are oscillating at the highest possible speed (even when the sun is shining). They often have to replace their brake light bulbs because of constant use. They are never actually IN accidents, they usually CAUSE accidents.

I hate to say it because I love and respect the woman in most other aspects of life, but my mom is one of these and it makes me crazy. I cannot ride in the passenger seat of a car she is driving.
I drive a Honda Del Sol. I'm sure you're familiar with the model. Not exactly practical... especially in the snow because it's very light weight, but the most mechanically sound car I could buy for the money I had. But you know what? I don't have much in the way of problems. I make sure to get decent tires and because I grew up and learned to drive in the mountains in a Hyundai Excell (:yuck:) with balding tires, I'm a snow-driving expert. They should teach classes on how to drive in the snow before drivers licenses are issued in northern states. Turn into the skid, try not to use your breaks at all, leave lots of space between you and the car in front. It's just not that hard.

[Solaris]

My god, we have this problem here too. When someone is tailgaiting less than a car's length behind you in a full-on, honest to god blizzard with white-out conditions... I mean seriously people. You really think your 4WD is going to be able to stop your 4 tons of Escalade or Nissan Armada (so big it's named after a whole fleet of Spanish war ships!) from slamming into the back of my car??? Too bad 4WD has nothing to do with your actual stopping capacity.



I hate to say it because I love and respect the woman in most other aspects of life, but my mom is one of these and it makes me crazy. I cannot ride in the passenger seat of a car she is driving.
I drive a Honda Del Sol. I'm sure you're familiar with the model. Not exactly practical... especially in the snow because it's very light weight, but the most mechanically sound car I could buy for the money I had. But you know what? I don't have much in the way of problems. I make sure to get decent tires and because I grew up and learned to drive in the mountains in a Hyundai Excell (:yuck:) with balding tires, I'm a snow-driving expert. They should teach classes on how to drive in the snow before drivers licenses are issued in northern states. Turn into the skid, try not to use your breaks at all, leave lots of space between you and the car in front. It's just not that hard.

Unfortunately, all the stability control features on cars now negate this. With these "safety" systems (I hate them, more on that in a second), you are supposed to continue holding the wheel in the direction in which you wanted to go in the first place, allowing the car to correct for you. This freaks me out, especially considering that I grew up in the extreme northeast US, and cannot untrain my brain. I used to sell cars, and nearly killed an instructor on a driving course because I did the logical thing, but the car did too...and so it all went to hell. I just don't like the car having more control than me. If I am in a car with this "safety" feature (which is gradually becoming standard on all cars), I turn it off immediately.

[anul]

Today I found myself thankful for snow for the first time. Today was a rather warm day and a large amount of snow melted. So I was able to splash pedestrians by driving through puddles. It was a delightful experience.

[lordrrr]

Well I just got back from snowboarding and it was awesome. I been doin' it for about six years now. So whine all you want but don't take my snow away.


Seriously, snow is the perfect excuse to stay inside and read all day anyway.

[integratedvelocity]

Being from the Upper Midwest, I can't understand how Easterners react to a few inches of snow. Generally, it takes at least six inches of snow for anything to be cancelled in Wisconsin. Here, people are afraid to drive a soon as there are a few flurries.

And sorry, but I love winter. Walking through snow in tall boots, seeing your breath in front of you, watching your hands turn white, making snowballs from the windowsills and throwing them at your roommates, all great life experiences. And I maintain that the feeling coming back into your extremities is nature's way of reminding you that you're still alive ;)

[Jed3]

Well i live in Australia, and I've never seen snow before. In the middle of winter, it never gets below zero and it gets to 45 in summer.
Thats in celsius by the way.

[rwyatt365]

Well I just got back from snowboarding and it was awesome. I been doin' it for about six years now. So whine all you want but don't take my snow away.
It's not "your" snow that I'm complaining about, it's the snow that sullies MY doorstep. You can have your snowboarding (and skiing). If man were meant to do either he would have size 53 feet!

PS - I don't need no steenkin' excuse to stay in and read all day.

Being from the Upper Midwest, I can't understand how Easterners react to a few inches of snow. Generally, it takes at least six inches of snow for anything to be cancelled in Wisconsin. Here, people are afraid to drive a soon as there are a few flurries.
Here in Deetroit they don't cancel anything unless there are > 8 inches of snow, but that doesn't stop the Nervous Nellies from coming out at the first sign of snowflakes.

And sorry, but I love winter. Walking through snow in tall boots, seeing your breath in front of you, watching your hands turn white, making snowballs from the windowsills and throwing them at your roommates, all great life experiences. And I maintain that the feeling coming back into your extremities is nature's way of reminding you that you're still alive ;)
Walking on a sun-drenched, sandy beach on a 80* day...
Not having to break icecicles from your nose...
Seeing your palms rosy pink...
Making water baloons and throwing them at...anyone...
are also great life experiences.

And that "thousand-needles-pricking-every-square-inch-of-your-body" feeling is nature's way of telling you that you've been out too damned long in the cold - it's punishment for being stupid.

[Lucid]

Not having to break icecicles from your nose...

When I was in high school I was dating a guy who had his septum pierced with a ring. One day we had to walk about 4 miles in -4 degree weather (Fahrenheit) and about half way there I realized that a tiny icicle had formed on his nose ring. My amusement at it was the only thing that kept me going.

Sorry, that was a bit random.

[integratedvelocity]

Rebuttal:



Walking on a sun-drenched, sandy beach on a 80* day...
Not having to break icecicles from your nose...
Seeing your palms rosy pink...
Making water baloons and throwing them at...anyone...
are also great life experiences.

And that "thousand-needles-pricking-every-square-inch-of-your-body" feeling is nature's way of telling you that you've been out too damned long in the cold - it's punishment for being stupid.

Number one = sunburn, skin cancer, skin that should never see the light of day
Number two = who was so stupid that they didn't wear a face mask?
Number three = idiots who pick poison ivy in the summer
Number four = but then there is no excuse when you accidentally put a rock or chunk of ice in it...
Number five = if you had been out too damned long the feeling wouldn't even come back...weaklings

[rwyatt365]

Number one = sunburn, skin cancer, skin that should never see the light of day
Number two = who was so stupid that they didn't wear a face mask?
Number three = idiots who pick poison ivy in the summer
Number four = but then there is no excuse when you accidentally put a rock or chunk of ice in it...
Number five = if you had been out too damned long the feeling wouldn't even come back...weaklings
Rebutted rebuttal;
1) ...separates the strong from the weak, disease culls the herd.
2) No need for facemasks in warm weather, unnecessary gear.
3) Rosy red from the increased blood flow due to the healthful benefits of warmth and sunshine.
4) ...it wasn't an accident.
5) cold; nature's way of killing the innocents.

[rwyatt365]

Last night, in a dirty, rotten, cowardly sneak-attack the dastardly snow demon dumped 6-8 inches of snow on the area! Two days ago we had 50* sunshine and today it's 30* and snow. I hate Michigan!

And to add insult to injury, I got caught-out on the way into work and spun out on the freeway. It wasn't terrible, and I dug myself out (I carry a small shovel in the trunk of my car) in about 10 minutes, but it did waste time and my ego is severely bruised. My mistake was trying to change lanes and getting "tripped up" by the slush that accumulates between lanes of traffic. My little car couldn't handle it and I got pulled into a spin - dammit!! Yeah, yeah, I should have been more careful but I was over-confident and got tripped up. No harm, no foul. 'Nuff said.

I HATE SNOW!!

[brewmaster]

I love snow, if it's going to be cold it might as well be snowing, but this has gone far enough.

Same here rwyatt, 50F on sunday, 5+ inches last night. I JUST WANT TO GO FISHING, ice fishing doesn't count.

[rwyatt365]

2+ weeks until Spring, and we're still getting freakin' SNOW!

This madness has got to STOP!

[Lucid]

I left my house today at 7 am. I got to school at 8:45. :irked:

[rwyatt365]

I left home at 5:30AM, I got to work at 7:30AM.

[Lucid]

I left home at 5:30AM, I got to work at 7:30AM.

This is ridiculous. Something must be done. I say we come up with a list of rules about when it can and can't snow. Then we can enlist some INTPs to figure out a way to enforce them.

[rwyatt365]

This is ridiculous. Something must be done. I say we come up with a list of rules about when it can and can't snow. Then we can enlist some INTPs to figure out a way to enforce them.
Agreed! But, how long will it take for them to come up with something? By then it'll be August!

[Lucid]

Agreed! But, how long will it take for them to come up with something? By then it'll be August!

Good point. We'll have to give them some incentive. Maybe we should take away their internet until they fix it.

[rwyatt365]

Good point. We'll have to give them some incentive. Maybe we should take away their internet until they fix it.
Good idea...

Now, TO WORK YOU SCURVY DOGS!!

[Ytterbium]

When you take your drivers license here in Sweden. It's mandatory to have full day at a "slippery track" to learn how a car can act in slippery conditions.
That don't prevent the drivers from thinking "Oh so this was the day where I should have put my studs on the day before."

[rwyatt365]

a moment of brain-fade, and a healthy dose of over confidence and "BAM", you're off the road. :embarassed:

[Ytterbium]

a moment of brain-fade, and a healthy dose of over confidence and "BAM", you're off the road. :embarassed:But you have to admit that there's tiny bit of fun too. Rear wheel drive and worn out summer tyres!
I have a goal to learn my INTP friend to drive. So on our way home from the cinemas. I turned on to a deserted parking lot and made some drifting. Then I told him to try, he did. I was sitting in the passenger seat shouting like mad man. "First gear, turn left, accelerate, accelerate!" "Clutch down, second gear, accelerate, turn left, accelerate, keep, keep spinning!" and between the commandos I shout "Waouwoh mad drifter!". Not the ordinary driving lesson, but he liked it and I think it was an ego boost for him. :thumbsup:

[Lucid]

But you have to admit that there's tiny bit of fun too. Rear wheel drive and worn out summer tyres!
I have a goal to learn my INTP friend to drive. So on our way home from the cinemas. I turned on to a deserted parking lot and made some drifting. Then I told him to try, he did. I was sitting in the passenger seat shouting like mad man. "First gear, turn left, accelerate, accelerate!" "Clutch down, second gear, accelerate, turn left, accelerate, keep, keep spinning!" and between the commandos I shout "Waouwoh mad drifter!". Not the ordinary driving lesson, but he liked it and I think it was an ego boost for him. :thumbsup:

Drifting is one thing about snow and cars that is fun! ;D

[rwyatt365]

Drifting is one thing about snow and cars that is fun! ;D
INTENTIONAL drifting is fun.

[PortInStorm]

All I'm asking for is some consistency. On Monday we got sunshine, mild wind and 17 degrees CELCIUS! Of course my basement started leaking like a sieve with literal tiny waterfalls down the wall. That night it dipped below freezing and the next day started in with freezing rain- woohoo! So Tuesday night it changed to snow, and we got about 5 cm, which gave way to the sparkling sunshine and winterwonderland we have today!

[Lucid]

a moment of brain-fade, and a healthy dose of over confidence and "BAM", you're off the road. :embarassed:

It happens to the best of us. It's like walking, which most of us have done almost all our lives, and tripping over your own feet. Only it's usually scarier in a car. :undecided:

[rwyatt365]

It happens to the best of us. It's like walking, which most of us have done almost all our lives, and tripping over your own feet. Only it's usually scarier in a car. :undecided:
I've never been scared in a car, or motorcycle wreck. Usually, the thought when faced with an impending wreck is, "Oh shit", in a car and, "This is gonna hurt" on a bike.

[eMachine]

We get "lake effect" snow where I live. Last weekend we got about 2 feet of snow dumped on us. I have to go to the supermarket today and so I had to check my car this morning, there was about 3 feet of snow at the end of my driveway behind my car. And because it was a product of the snow plow pushing it off the road, a good deal of it was 'slush' on the road which became ice in my driveway.

I shoveled about 2/3 of it from behind my car, then came inside to check on my kids and ended up napping on the sofa for an hour because I was exhausted. I finished it this afternoon, shoveled a path around the drivers side of my car and then a path to my apartment door... and now I don't want to go to the store. :blank:

[rwyatt365]

We get "lake effect" snow where I live. Last weekend we got about 2 feet of snow dumped on us. I have to go to the supermarket today and so I had to check my car this morning, there was about 3 feet of snow at the end of my driveway behind my car. And because it was a product of the snow plow pushing it off the road, a good deal of it was 'slush' on the road which became ice in my driveway.

I shoveled about 2/3 of it from behind my car, then came inside to check on my kids and ended up napping on the sofa for an hour because I was exhausted. I finished it this afternoon, shoveled a path around the drivers side of my car and then a path to my apartment door... and now I don't want to go to the store. :blank:
My heart goes out to all of you that suffered the ignomy of the past weekend's snowstorm.

This one is for all of my "peeps" *pours out a shot from a 40oz*

[eMachine]

My husband is from west Texas... and I forced him to move to PA so our kids can be near my family for a while. So, naturally I'm the official snow shoveler... my bad. :huh: (<-- what the hell was I thinking?)

[rwyatt365]

You traded sunshine for snowshovels?!! Girl, you're in the Snow Hater's Hall of Shame. :(

[asongforgrace]

so I actually couldn't be bothered reading the entirety of the thread, but I think it's exceptionally selfish of you [:suspicious:/:tiny:] to complain about the cold - it's been 35C (95F) and above here for 9 days, and no end in sight - at least the next 7 days. :cry:

[rwyatt365]

"Selfish"? That's an interesting take! Complaining about the cold/snow is the only thing that keeps me alive during the winter. Otherwise I would collapse into a quivering pile of (frozen) protoplasm. Selfish? No, it's a survival technique! :thumbsup:

Tell you what, you come here - where it's 1-2C - and I'll go there, 35C sounds like heaven right about now.

[Lucid]

"Selfish"? That's an interesting take! Complaining about the cold/snow is the only thing that keeps me alive during the winter. Otherwise I would collapse into a quivering pile of (frozen) protoplasm. Selfish? No, it's a survival technique! :thumbsup:

Tell you what, you come here - where it's 1-2C - and I'll go there, 35C sounds like heaven right about now.

It's like a "hatred of weather wherever you currently are" exchange program. I like it. :)

[rwyatt365]

It's like a "hatred of weather wherever you currently are" exchange program. I like it. :)
Sign me up! :thumbsup:
I'm a Weather Exchange Student; tropical, or semi-tropical locales are my major.

[Lucid]

Sign me up! :thumbsup:
I'm a Weather Exchange Student; tropical, or semi-tropical locales are my major.

Actually here it's been a gorgeous 70 degrees all week. And I kinda wish it would snow. I guess I just can't be pleased. :undecided:

I will say that I'll be happy when it's sitting-outside-drinking-pina-coladas weather again :)

[rwyatt365]

At least I'm consistent. It's been 20-30F all week and threatening snow each and every day. All I want is for this damned snow to go away! Is that too much to ask!! It's a week before Spring for cryin' out loud!!!

Don't get me started :angry: :yuck: :irked:

[rwyatt365]

Last night there was a "sneak attack". A week into Spring and it snowed!! And not just a light dusting, rather it snowed about 4 inches! Now tell me that's right?! Four freakin' inches and it's four days away from April (I guess that's an inch for every day).

Anyway, the drive into work was arduous, and there were cars and trucks off the highway everywhere. To all of those of you that crave those crisp winter days, come take a drive with me on I-94 at 6AM and tell me about the rhapsody of winter.

Bah, humbug!

This is the time of year where "Cabin Fever Murders" start to happen here in Michigan. Where people, cooped up for months, start to go berserk and wreak mayhem upon the populace. If it snows again, I might be tempted to do some mayhem wreaking myself! It's a good thing I don't own any firearms because SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PAY!!

[TheLastMohican]

This is the time of year where "Cabin Fever Murders" start to happen here in Michigan. Where people, cooped up for months, start to go berserk and wreak mayhem upon the populace. If it snows again, I might be tempted to do some mayhem wreaking myself! It's a good thing I don't own any firearms because SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PAY!!

Look out, everybody! It's the shovel slayer!

[rwyatt365]

Look out, everybody! It's the shovel slayer!
That's snow-shovel slayer to you, partner!

[TheLastMohican]

That's snow-shovel slayer to you, partner!

Run! He's reaching into his salt bin!

(cue shrill slasher music)

[rwyatt365]

This might be my last post in this thread for the next 6 months - although one cannot entirely rule out another insidious sneak-attack. But I think that my arch enemy has been put away for another year.

Praise be to [insert diety here]!

[Ytterbium]

Yay snow! (awaits rwyatt's mumbling)

We have alot of it now. Much intentional and unintentional drifting has taken place. Yesterday _I was down the ditch twice with my fathers Land Rover.

[rwyatt365]

I might re-commence as soon as tomorrow (Tuesday). Predictions are from 1-3 inches of heavy, wet snow. My insides cringe at the thought.

[Lucid]

We're expecting snow on Thursday. I am rejoicing. :)

[Solaris]

Hurray, let the rants begin!

[Synamon]

*throws a snowball at all of you*

It's been snowing here for months already! But not enough in the mountains yet for skiing. :(

[Krazy P]

Orange County, CA is a high tech center. Cost of living is high.

The Seattle area has lots of high tech jobs and the economy has not tanked as poorly as other places.

Very mild weather - lots of rain (little snow).

Of course, all the research on happiness shows no correlation between wealth, weather and happiness. Turns out that unhappy people remain unhappy whether they win the lottery or move to Hawaii.

Something to consider...

[Undead Bonzi]

I might re-commence as soon as tomorrow (Tuesday). Predictions are from 1-3 inches of heavy, wet snow. My insides cringe at the thought.

1 to 3 inches of snow...what are you crying about? You can still find your golfball in snow like that.

Winter doesn't get fun untill you get the drifts that are bigger than your car and the temperature (without wind chill) drops to -10 to -20 deg F. That's when you get a boiling cup of water, take it outside and throw it in the air and watch it turn to snow (I actually do this almost every winter it gets cold enough and it is always fun). Black Ice is great fun as well.

I say a pox on you winter haters.

[rwyatt365]

Any amount of snow that doesn't melt immediately upon contact is too much snow. And while I can't boast the "fun" that you enjoy so much where you live, Undead, it's bad enough here in Michigan to warrant a rant or two. So, rant I shall.

As I look out my office window even now it is snowing briskly. Great, fat snowflakes are crashing into the innocent bystanders below - rendering them incoherent, unconscious, or befuddled. And I sit here, two stories above, watching in disbelief; first at the incompetence of the weathercasters for not being able to properly forewarn me (or anyone) of this circumstance, and second at the audacity of snow to appear before Christmas?!

This isn't Alaska (or even Minnesota)! WTF?!! I am supposed to have at least 5-6 more weeks to pretend that I'm not trapped here in the rust-belt. This is ridiculous.

And as for you kind souls that have suggested that I relocate elsewhere. Let me say that, were I free, and single I would be mocking some other poor soul from a sunny beach somewhere on (or very near to) the equator. I am unfortunately attached to a lady-type person that has an affinity for all things Michigan. So, here I stay.

[SeaCzar]

I am with rwyatt on this rant. I work in the airline industry, and snow anywhere (Denver, Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, etc..) screws the entire aviation system up nationwide, even in cities with great weather (this can happen in summer too, with severe weather systems).

Here (I live between Baltimore and Washington, DC), we do not get snow from the west, as most of you do. Our blizzards come from the south. Park a cold high pressure system from the north over us, add a blast of moist air out of the Gulf of Mexico, and, voila, 28-36 inches of snow (or more) in a day or so. It completely paralyzes the region for days. No milk, bread or toilet paper to be found (wtf is with this, I do not know). I've been to a lot of cities you have mentioned, and at least they have a clue about how to drive in snow. Here, they cannot drive when its sunny & 70F.

'Tis the season......to hate cold weather.





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I am unfortunately attached to a lady-type person that has an affinity for all things Michigan. So, here I stay.

Even the Lions?

[rwyatt365]

Alas, she even watches the Lions - with her mother no less.

[jikin]

I think I'll also get in on the rant. Snow is pretty in the air or on the grass. The moment it hits the pavement everything is a mess. I can do without scraping the car in the morning, hitting black ice, and insane people who think they can speed in a blizzard because they have 4 wheel drive. ( I do feel guilty when I get a brief feeling of joy seeing them half in a ditch because of it.)

I've considered moving to a place without snow. Unfortunately I prefer cold to heat. Plus no matter where you go there will be problems. I'd rather deal with snow than worry about my house collapsing from an earthquake or have it demolished by a tornado.

[blackbetty]

i don't normally mind snow since it's somewhat of a rarity here in the carolinas...but now it's threatening to cancel my friends' impending visit for the holiday.
(they're calling for thick snow along the route) fuuuuck snow!

[rwyatt365]

ARRRRRGH!!
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PS - My car is behind the Jeep.

[Synamon]

Your car ain't going nowhere rwyatt, Miata's suck on snow. Hubby brought his home last spring and we couldn't even get it up the driveway because there was a skiff of snow.

Out here in the western foothills we've had an amazingly mild November with only a couple of 3" snowfalls which melted, it's 10 C above normal today.

Don't worry, I'm sure I'll join your rant soon.

[Undead Bonzi]

fuuuuck snow!

You can try but that is only going to melt a small patch of it and likely cost you your reproductive abilities in the long run.

[rwyatt365]

Your car ain't going nowhere rwyatt, Miata's suck on snow. Hubby brought his home last spring and we couldn't even get it up the driveway because there was a skiff of snow.

Out here in the western foothills we've had an amazingly mild November with only a couple of 3" snowfalls which melted, it's 10 C above normal today.

Don't worry, I'm sure I'll join your rant soon.
Miata's with stock tires suck on snow. As long as I can clear the differential (about 4.5 inches) I can make good progress with snow tires. I just replaced a set of Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 snow tires (served me good these past 7 winters) with some brand new WS-60's. They worked great this morning. I even passed some p***ies in a 4WD SUV on the freeway!

I've driven my trusty little car through 8 winters so far and have only gotten stuck once. People often ask, "What do you drive in the winter?", and are amazed when I answer, "My car".

[rwyatt365]

You can try but that is only going to melt a small patch of it and likely cost you your reproductive abilities in the long run.
An astute observation, and I would agree with your assessment.

[rewhu]

Hail all day yesterday.

*makes sour face*

[Wapiti]

I rode my motorcycle in to work again today. Such a beautiful day to ride too. Wait, sorry, wrong thread.

[enfpchick]

Aww you guys are so lucky. I wish we had snow in Miami.
lol we try to make snowballs out of wet sand at the beach.

[rwyatt365]

Aww you guys are so lucky. I wish we had snow in Miami.
lol we try to make snowballs out of wet sand at the beach.
(As much as I hate to say it...)

A pox on your wet, sandy, warm beaches. A pox, I say!!

*panting*

[rewhu]

^ LOL ^

So far today I've heard the sorry excuse for a holiday song Dominic The Donkey (The Italian Christmas Donkey) twice already. I would rather hike five miles, uphill, in a blizzard then listen to that song one more time.

[enfpchick]

(As much as I hate to say it...)

A pox on your wet, sandy, warm beaches. A pox, I say!!

*panting*

hahahahahaha :laugh:
Why don't you come on down!
The beaches are even better in the winter, at least that's what the Canadian snowbirds say.

I'm going up to Chicago in February. I've never really seen snow and I have no idea what to expect. lol i guess you'll have the last laugh

[rwyatt365]

hahahahahaha :laugh:
Why don't you come on down!
The beaches are even better in the winter, at least that's what the Canadian snowbirds say.

Gladly!

I'm going up to Chicago in February. I've never really seen snow and I have no idea what to expect. lol i guess you'll have the last laugh
Bring lots of clothes, a heavy coat, gloves or mittens, 2-3 scarves, closed-toed shoes (boots, if you can get them) and a big hat with ear muffs. Expect steel-gray skies, cold winds, icy streets and sub-zero weather. Expect cold like you've probably never experienced before in your life (open the freezer at home, stick your unprotected head inside and take a deep breath - it's kinda like that, only colder). Acclimate yourself by throwing ice-cold water in your face at 1 hour intervals, taking cold showers and eating ice cubes.

Get the picture?

Good!

[Solaris]

I'd love to say rwyatt is overdoing it, but he's not really. Even that head in the freezer thing is pretty on -- real cold is much worse. Try sticking your slightly moist face in a deep freezing freezer and taking a huge breath, that'll be more like it. If the snot freezes in your nose, you'll know it was right.

Wow, I so don't miss that. I should start an "Adopt a Northerner" thread where we southerners adopt cold-hating northeners for the winter.

[enfpchick]

Bring lots of clothes, a heavy coat, gloves or mittens, 2-3 scarves, closed-toed shoes (boots, if you can get them) and a big hat with ear muffs. Expect steel-gray skies, cold winds, icy streets and sub-zero weather. Expect cold like you've probably never experienced before in your life (open the freezer at home, stick your unprotected head inside and take a deep breath - it's kinda like that, only colder). Acclimate yourself by throwing ice-cold water in your face at 1 hour intervals, taking cold showers and eating ice cubes.

Get the picture?

Good!

OMG I'm going to die!!!
I'm going to go skiing and only have one waterproof jacket, 3 long sleeve shirts, and a thin scarf. lol i thought it would have been sufficient. This Miamian needs all the advice she can get. Keep it comin.

Anyone have old winter clothes they don't need?

[tp6626]

Hey I'm off skiing in January too! :p Not the best person for clothing / fashion advice though. I lose interest when packing, and usually forget the most essential things. I found last time I'd only packed 3 pairs of boxers for a week!! (packing just doesn't seem that important at the time).

Actually, I must buy some new ski socks and thermal tops, I don't have many of them. Maybe a lightening blue, power-ranger-esque skin tight top with a lightening bolt across the chest!?

I like the snow though (in relation to the thread title). Just not all the time.


OMG I'm going to die!!!
I'm going to go skiing and only have one waterproof jacket, 3 long sleeve shirts, and a thin scarf. lol i thought it would have been sufficient. This Miamian needs all the advice she can get. Keep it comin.

Anyone have old winter clothes they don't need?

[enfpchick]

Hey I'm off skiing in January too! :p Not the best person for clothing / fashion advice though. I lose interest when packing, and usually forget the most essential things. I found last time I'd only packed 3 pairs of boxers for a week!! (packing just doesn't seem that important at the time).

Actually, I must buy some new ski socks and thermal tops, I don't have many of them. Maybe a lightening blue, power-ranger-esque skin tight top with a lightening bolt across the chest!?

I like the snow though (in relation to the thread title). Just not all the time.

That's the problem I don't know what i need because I've never seen snow. Whenever we go up north its always during the summer.

I need ski socks???

[tp6626]

I need ski socks???Well, just really thick long ones. Not special ones or anything.

I'm not sure what its like over there (I'm off to France), but I'd assume its still quite cold.

Have you not been before?

[enfpchick]

Have you not been before?

Nope. I've never seen snow.
lol we don't get too much down here in Miami.
I have no idea what to expect.

[tp6626]

Broken knees?

I only went for the first time last year, and I fell over a lot. To be honest, its a good laugh - not just the ski activities but all the other stuff too. Food, drink, scenery, people.

I found the skiing part could be quite solitary at times too (good for me as an INTJ I guess, maybe not you though). Prob best to stick close to others while you're learning though. Or just sit in a bar at the top of a mountain people watching!

[PortInStorm]

Holy Moses! What's going on here?

No, please don't by thick socks. It'll make your ski boots too tight, restricting circulation and making your feet cold. Buy sock liners (polyester) and/or marino wool socks, not the old-fashioned wool kind or your feet and legs'll be really scratchy. Marino is uber-soft and warm, and most importantly, retains its heat-retaining properties when wet (think sweat). Hopefully they don't go very far up your calf or you'll have a hard time closing the 'latch' on your ski-boot (too many layers- liner, sock, long-underwear, pants, skipants).

NO COTTON (any piece of clothing)! Cotton loses all of its warmth when wet and actually becomes quite dangerous when wet when you start to lose heat. Everything should either be polyester blend, wool, or fleece.

Get some good longjohns. Again, poly or silk, lightweight. Don't get a heavy-weight- you start to get hot skiing and then you sweat and risk some heat loss. The Inuit have a saying "You sweat, you die".

Waterproof everything if you can. If it's mild, there'll be slush or wet snow, and wetness is not your friend. Either get waterproof AND windproof clothing or buy the spray that makes it so.

Mittens, not gloves. Not those crappy thin wool gloves. Seriously. I know someone who got frostbite skiing in those. Remember, it's not like taking a walk in the woods. It's the ambient temperature plus the windchill of the wind AND your speed down the hill. These gloves MUST be windproof or you may as well be skiing with bare hands.

Ditch the scarf. They're useless and do nothing but come undone and flap in your face. You need (not an option) a hat and a neoprene face mask. Not the old wool balaclavas that go over your head like a robber. Sometimes it'll be mild enough to only need the hat, other times you'll feel like your face is being pelted with little spears or losing sensation if you don't have that neoprene face mask on (it's superb at breaking the wind- it has space for your nose and mouth and is fleece-lined).

And we laugh at people who ski in jeans. Get the coat and some good (snow)boarding pants. These pants are just a shell basically- no fluffy insulation. So underneath you wear your silk longjohns, then some fleece pants, then your snowboarding pants.

And goggles, I prefer the orange tint. Don't forget these! It's no fun at all squinting the whole day or, even better, getting snow blindness. It's a real risk and it'll take a long time for your sight to recover- you'll have a lot of time off. And don't think sunglasses will cut it- the wind and snow just swirl around the edges. It also isn't a great sensation having tiny ice crystals pelting into your eyeballs.

[Synamon]

Holy Moses! What's going on here?

No, please don't by thick socks. It'll make your ski boots too tight, restricting circulation and making your feet cold. Buy sock liners (polyester) and/or marino wool socks, not the old-fashioned wool kind or your feet and legs'll be really scratchy. Marino is uber-soft and warm, and most importantly, retains its heat-retaining properties when wet (think sweat). Hopefully they don't go very far up your calf or you'll have a hard time closing the 'latch' on your ski-boot (too many layers- liner, sock, long-underwear, pants, skipants).

NO COTTON (any piece of clothing)! Cotton loses all of its warmth when wet and actually becomes quite dangerous when wet when you start to lose heat. Everything should either be polyester blend, wool, or fleece.

Get some good longjohns. Again, poly or silk, lightweight. Don't get a heavy-weight- you start to get hot skiing and then you sweat and risk some heat loss. The Inuit have a saying "You sweat, you die".

Waterproof everything if you can. If it's mild, there'll be slush or wet snow, and wetness is not your friend. Either get waterproof AND windproof clothing or buy the spray that makes it so.

Mittens, not gloves. Not those crappy thin wool gloves. Seriously. I know someone who got frostbite skiing in those. Remember, it's not like taking a walk in the woods. It's the ambient temperature plus the windchill of the wind AND your speed down the hill. These gloves MUST be windproof or you may as well be skiing with bare hands.

Ditch the scarf. They're useless and do nothing but come undone and flap in your face. You need (not an option) a hat and a neoprene face mask. Not the old wool balaclavas that go over your head like a robber. Sometimes it'll be mild enough to only need the hat, other times you'll feel like your face is being pelted with little spears or losing sensation if you don't have that neoprene face mask on (it's superb at breaking the wind- it has space for your nose and mouth and is fleece-lined).

And we laugh at people who ski in jeans. Get the coat and some good (snow)boarding pants. These pants are just a shell basically- no fluffy insulation. So underneath you wear your silk longjohns, then some fleece pants, then your snowboarding pants.

And goggles, I prefer the orange tint. Don't forget these! It's no fun at all squinting the whole day or, even better, getting snow blindness. It's a real risk and it'll take a long time for your sight to recover- you'll have a lot of time off. And don't think sunglasses will cut it- the wind and snow just swirl around the edges. It also isn't a great sensation having tiny ice crystals pelting into your eyeballs.

She's exaggerating (only a little though). I actually have all those clothes, even the neoprene face mask. I was on a ski trip one week when the temperatures were -35 C (not including windchill). Two runs and you were frozen, back inside for an hour drinking spiked hot chocolate, and then two more runs before giving up and hitting the bar for the rest of the day.

[tp6626]

Uuh... :blank: ...what she (Portinstorm) said. Sounds like much better advice.

Do people actually ski in jeans? That must be terrible.

Sounds like a lot of gear though. Maybe its a bit harsher in Canada than France. I didn't have half as much stuff, and still had to spend loads on the stuff I did take.

Face mask was horrible and itchy as well. Ended up just pulling my coat collar right up to my goggles most of the time.

[Lucid]

Do people actually ski in jeans? That must be terrible.

I live in Colorado. Here, we ski in shorts. And wear them all winter.
No, I don't know why.

I've driven my trusty little car through 8 winters so far and have only gotten stuck once. People often ask, "What do you drive in the winter?", and are amazed when I answer, "My car".

I heartily agree! Right now I drive a Del Sol. Before that a Nissan 240SX and before that a Toyota Corolla. I grew up in the mountains here and learned to dive in the snow in a freaking Hyundai Excell (please don't laugh, it was all I could afford in high school). It's all about the tires. I don't understand people who think they need 4 wheel drive for some snow. If I can get a 4 cylinder, front wheel drive that weighs only slightly more than I do and has less horse power than my garbage disposal up an unpaved driveway with a 45 degree incline in 8 inches of snow (and, granted, some special training and awesome snow tires) I don't understand why so many people have such trouble driving around the suburbs of Denver in a small tank.
*High fives rwyatt for his awesome snow-driving abilities*

That being said, it snowed about 8 inches here yesterday. Minus the scraping the snow off my tiny car, I was very pleased with it.

[PortInStorm]

She's exaggerating (only a little though). I actually have all those clothes, even the neoprene face mask. I was on a ski trip one week when the temperatures were -35 C (not including windchill). Two runs and you were frozen, back inside for an hour drinking spiked hot chocolate, and then two more runs before giving up and hitting the bar for the rest of the day.

Yes, 'tis true- the "sweat you die" may (just may) have been hyperbole :laugh:, and in many locales it's pretty mild. Not quite shorts weather, but almost so. A fleece sweater and your board pants and some thin (windproof) mitts are all you'd need in that case.

But I do remember night skiing in Northern Ontario once when it was -40. Our camera only took one pic before it iced up. Every inch of skin had to be covered. I've rarely felt anything like it- the cold seeped though my down jacket even when I was standing still. So insidious. Same as Syn- a couple of runs then you had to get inside.

[Lucid]

I'm about to drive to work in the snow....

It's not so much the snow that bothers me as the other people driving in it.

Sigh.

[Ytterbium]

I flipped my car in the snow. So it's dented on the drivers side. :irked:

As mentioned earlier it's all about the tyres. I have studded on my rwd car.

[JustMel]

Spent several winters in Colorado and Wyoming. No thank you. I like snow so long as I can leave when I want and get to warmer climates. I am back in the south and complaining about low 50's. Of course when everyone else starts complaining about the 28s I say "this isn't as cold as it could be" and when they all get happy and say it's going to snow I rain on their parade with "nope, those aren't snow clouds"

I have seen it snow on July 4th in WY. I was about 12 and I had just arrived and asked my stepdad--

"what the hell is that"

"snow"

"it's July"

"and it's still snow. it'll be gone in a bit and it won't stick"

"book me a flight. I'm going home"





JustMel added to this post, 5 minutes and 6 seconds later...

Right now I drive a Del Sol.

Off topic. I had a friend who bought one of those cars during his man whore days and said it was because he "didn't want the fat friends of the girl's he picked up to come along and with the del sol he didn't have to worry about saying anything because it was a 2 seater, thus no room for the fat friend"

[Lucid]

Spent several winters in Colorado and Wyoming. No thank you. I like snow so long as I can leave when I want and get to warmer climates. I am back in the south and complaining about low 50's.

We have a name for people like you out here. It rhymes with whussie. :)


Off topic. I had a friend who bought one of those cars during his man whore days and said it was because he "didn't want the fat friends of the girl's he picked up to come along and with the del sol he didn't have to worry about saying anything because it was a 2 seater, thus no room for the fat friend"

Yes, one of the reasons I bought the car was because it's a 2 seater, thus limiting certain unwanted socializing. "Sorry, can't give you a ride, only seats two."

[zibber]

Snow is pretty as hell, but god damn does it make cycling through Amsterdam arduous. Ice everywhere, can't see the tram tracks (in which my bicycle tires snugly fit), kids throwing snowballs (well.. let's call them ice bullets, rather). There's bridges all over the place, so the chances of being confronted with gravity are quite large. Then, you come home and dirty up the hallway with brownish snow muck from your shoes and bike tires and a layer of snow on your coat and hair. Yeah, it's so picturesque though :laugh:

[Motor Jax]

if i could live at the equator all year round, i would...

well, i'm in Georgia now. at least, its better than living in Virginia...

snow? we rarely ever get snow here in the South... but it still gets cold...

[rewhu]

I flipped my car in the snow.

Whoa. Flipped as in flipped over?

...kids throwing snowballs (well.. let's call them ice bullets, rather).

Ha! Great terminology.

Well, Rhode Island might be getting some snow this weekend. The news of this pending doom has me angry at myself for not cleaning the garage when it was warmer. Now I’ll have to bundle up and spend at least two hours clearing out my junk so I can start parking my truck in the garage before January hits, which is when the real cold weather will kick in. Ugh.

[rwyatt365]

I flipped my car in the snow. So it's dented on the drivers side. :irked:
FLIPPED?!!

As mentioned earlier it's all about the tyres. I have studded on my rwd car.
I put on my snow tires last weekend. So far the "snow-tire mojo" has kept any major accumulations at bay (despite two so-called "major storms" that were supposed to hit over the past week). It is a small price to pay to beat down the onslaught of snow.

[Synamon]

Heavy snowfall warning, sigh. We've had 3" in two hours, it is really snowing. Pretty, but since it is supposed to keep snowing all day and night it will get ugly soon.

[Ytterbium]

Whoa. Flipped as in flipped over?
FLIPPED?!!Yes. I lost it corrected, lost it again, corrected... Lost it, corrected, corrected, overcorrected and the front goes down the ditch head on. Flipped the car and it it slided on it's doors.
Crawled out of the car, knocked on the door on the nearest cottage(3 in the morning) and a friendly man lent me his phone. Called the tow truck, he came an hour later and turned the car back on it's wheels again. I could drive it from there and driven it since. The tyres were new and I had them for two days.
The man I woke up in the middle of the night, said that the plough hit the ditch aswell. So they didn't bother clearing or sanding that road. I had a little more speed this time as the last night I got stuck halfway up the slope on that road. It proved it was too much speed.
:irked:

The positive side it was the rusty doors on the car that got dented, which I've already have replacement doors for.


Edit. Couple of days before this I went straight through a huge bush with my fathers Land Rover. That either hitting a telephone pole or going over the dock, hitting the water. So I choosed the bush to stop my ride. Halfhour later I annihilated a mailbox for the same reason. Steep slope and It stood there in my way. It was a suicide bomber mailbox as it shattered it took out my headlamp aswell. Another halfhour after that I spun out and hit the ditch. As it was a Landy it pulled itself up. My father asked what the hell I've done as the car had a shattered headlamp and completely covered in twigs from the bush. Next day after this I pulled an electrician up from the ditch and otherwise no damages.
But that's life! :undecided:

[Mozzes]

I'm a winter/snow hater too. Not only does the cold oppress my soul but I live on the eastern edge of the central timezone so at the height of winter's tyranny the sun starts setting about 3:30 in the afternoon. It's all absolutely miserable.

[rwyatt365]

So far my "new snow tire mojo" has been working wonders. The last "2-4 inches" forecast petered out after a mere dusting of snow. That doesn't stop the "OMG, it's SNOWING!" morons from being out on the streets. I mean, c'mon "Miss Daisy", when the street is perfectly dry and you're sitting 10 feet off the ground in your H1 Hummer, you should be able to get up a little more speed than 15MPH...on the FREEWAY!

I propose that the ignition in every car be wired to a kill switch that is activated by a galvanic skin response sensor. If you get scared and start sweating, your ignition cuts off for 20 minutes (so that you can calm down). That way the 'Fraidy Cats can stay off the freaking roads!!

(Do I sound angry?)

[rewhu]

Well, it finally happened. Snow.

According to weather.com it’s 17 degrees and purportedly not going to get over 25 for the whole day and probably most of the week. Oh, and it’s windy so that 16 feels more like a 4.

*sulk*

[MaleVolentworld]

Snow is the greatest weather that nature can throw at us.

There is nothing better than seeing formerly grey dull pavements, buildings and roads covered in a layer of white snow, brightening the day and night and displaying its innocence.

I hate the sun, heat is my enemy, it gives me headaches and makes me uncomfortable. It brings along its friends (bees, wasps) to irritate me even more and burns me if I stay out too long, like an evil parent.

Down with the sun.

[rwyatt365]

Snow is the greatest weather that nature can throw at us.

There is nothing better than seeing formerly grey dull pavements, buildings and roads covered in a layer of white snow, brightening the day and night and displaying its innocence.

I hate the sun, heat is my enemy, it gives me headaches and makes me uncomfortable. It brings along its friends (bees, wasps) to irritate me even more and burns me if I stay out too long, like an evil parent.

Down with the sun.
A pox upon you! Take your heathen ramblings and get ye away from this place!! I will hear no more blasphemy, no more deviant notions. This thread is off-limits to the likes of you - you who worship the evil that is snow.

This is a place of heat shimmers, and sweat, and hyperthermia. A place where the sun shines bright and relentlessly. A place where ice cream fears to tread (unless it is consumed rapidly and greedily by the denizens within).

Cold is an abomination against nature (nevermind entropy theory). Were it not for the evil cold, the universe would last forever! We would not cringe in the dark, waiting for the heat-death of all things. No! We would revel in the never-ending glory that is heat, and warmth, and life!! Open your eyes, see the light, step away from the horror of frost.

Become one with the sun...

[Synamon]

I feel sorry for my dog. He has to go outside. There's a big drift at the door.

I'm not going out there. Snowing, -22 C and a 35 km/hr wind = -35 windchill. At least the snow is blowing off the deck, I won't have to shovel that.

[rwyatt365]

Words cannot convey the depth of haterd that I have for all things cold and snowy. Last Friday began an onslaught from the enemy of all mankind - snow - that has lasted to this day. And I have been cursing the cold ever since.

First a snowstorm that snarled traffic and sent every incompetent driver east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line onto our freeways. Yes, the roads were slick and visibility was limited, but is that any reason to stop in the middle of the Interstate to rethink your mode of transportation? I think not!!

People at my job were amazed that my little car made it into work. My answer, "A little bit of common sense, and a reduction of speed and anyyone can navigate the roads". In fact, as long as my tires can touch ground, I can make it through an amazing amount of snow. So to all who think that a Miata is a lousy snow-car - I scoff at the notion!

Since that fateful day, the temperature has plummetted. The past two mornings have been in single digits (F) and miserable. I HATE COLD. I HATE SNOW. I curse every condition and circumstance that has led to me being trapped here in this ungodly wasteland. Only polar bears, fur seals and penguins should live here. I look outside my office window and see the snow blowing at a 60-degree angle and can only think of tiny ice-bullets scything through the flesh of innocent people that venture outside. My poor little car is slowly being buried by the offending projectiles.

THe latter part of the week holds the promise of warmer (35 degrees F is WARMER!) temps. Perhaps, even rain (the enemy of snow) will come. But I dare not get my hopes up. No sooner will I wish for rain than it will transform into sleet, then ice, then snow again - making things much worse than they are.

Did I say, "I HATE SNOW"? (just checking)

[rewhu]

I live at the bottom of a dead end that is also the bottom of a hill so as you can probably imagine, snow plows frequently forget my street. We had snow, rain, sleet, snow, more rain, and more snow and then finally it all froze over. My stairs, driveway and end of my street are covered in ice. Yeah!

This morning I was late to work because I was trying to help push a neighbor's car so he could get out of the dead end. Myself and another guy were pushing while the owner of the car attempted to drive. No luck. His tires just spun but couldn't find any traction.

[Lucid]

All last week it was in the single digits. Last Sunday it reached the amazing high of 1F for about an hour in the afternoon before plunging back down to -5 and lower.

Last Monday it was -11 (not including wind chill) when I left for work.

Aside from scraping the ice off my car and digging it out of the snow drift, I love this weather. :)

[rwyatt365]

It was so cold yesterday morning that my battery refused to crank my car's engine. I had to jump it with my wife's car to get it started.

But I don't mind standing in 6-degree weather, with 30MPH winds blowing at 6AM in the morning, shuttling cars in and out of the driveway, trying to jump-start a car. That's my idea of a heavenly way to start the day! :thumbsup:

[Lucid]

It was so cold yesterday morning that my battery refused to crank my car's engine. I had to jump it with my wife's car to get it started.

But I don't mind standing in 6-degree weather, with 30MPH winds blowing at 6AM in the morning, shuttling cars in and out of the driveway, trying to jump-start a car. That's my idea of a heavenly way to start the day! :thumbsup:

See? I knew you'd come around!! lol

A lot of people had trouble starting their cars here last Monday too. Apparently several counties fleet of public transportation vehicles wouldn't start due to battery problems.

Did you grow up with cold weather rwyatt??

[rwyatt365]

I was born in LA, raised in several mid-west locations, but spent the majority of my life in Michigan - and I hate it!! Every time I thought I had "escaped" I was drawn back. It's like there is an evil magnet that warps time and space to keep me here in this wasteland.

[Harmony]

What's this snow you speak of? I've only seen ice... Which is what I'm looking at on our roads now....

[Lucid]

I was born in LA, raised in several mid-west locations, but spent the majority of my life in Michigan - and I hate it!! Every time I thought I had "escaped" I was drawn back. It's like there is an evil magnet that warps time and space to keep me here in this wasteland.

I think most of my tolerance to the cold weather stems from the fact that I've lived in Colorado all my life and am just used to it.

However, I think in Michigan it snows and the snow just stays until March or so. Here we get some strange, balmy 70F days in January that melts it off every now and then. :)

[rwyatt365]

What's this snow you speak of? I've only seen ice... Which is what I'm looking at on our roads now....

Snow is a cold, white, (often) powdery substance composed mainly of frozen evil and the tears of tiny third-world babies (that haven't been adopted by Brangelina). The main purpose of snow is to hide lurking dangers beneath a seemingly placid exterior. Snow occurs naturally in dangerous, cursed areas where despair and avarice accumulate in large quantities (typically surrounding automotive companies and power-hungry, but stupid mayors). Snow is often mistaken for cocaine, but is far more dangerous and deadly - accounting for 4.3 billion deaths each year worldwide (an often overlooked, but true fact that is obfuscated by the International Union of Snow-Bunnies and Cold Weather Lovers).

[SeaCzar]

I have heard these horror stories and I guess I cannot complain (but will, anyway). It has not gotten out of the twenties here for days, and now a rain front is about to move through. The ground is frozen, and we're expecting rain tonight and a high of 58 (F) tomorrow. Go figure. When I retire, I'll have a house in the Outer Banks for most of the year, and a condo in Miami Beach for a few months.

[Wapiti]

...... Snow is often mistaken for cocaine, but is far more dangerous and deadly - accounting for 4.3 billion deaths each year worldwide........
This is truly outrageous. Where is the war on snow? We have declared war on drugs/cocaine but not snow, and snow is more deadly? I am outraged, I call for the banning of all snow and for the declaration of 'snow free' school zones. We need a blue ribbon committee to look into this snow and how to reduce it's effects. This is a travesty that this has not been done already.

[Ytterbium]

It was so cold yesterday morning that my battery refused to crank my car's engine. I had to jump it with my wife's car to get it started.

But I don't mind standing in 6-degree weather, with 30MPH winds blowing at 6AM in the morning, shuttling cars in and out of the driveway, trying to jump-start a car. That's my idea of a heavenly way to start the day! :thumbsup:Don't you have a block heater? Makes it easier.
Anyhow sounds like an old battery. Buy a new one, that's suitable for coldstarts. The colder it gets the fewer amps the battery can deliver.

[Harmony]

Snow is a cold, white, (often) powdery substance composed mainly of frozen evil and the tears of tiny third-world babies (that haven't been adopted by Brangelina). The main purpose of snow is to hide lurking dangers beneath a seemingly placid exterior. Snow occurs naturally in dangerous, cursed areas where despair and avarice accumulate in large quantities (typically surrounding automotive companies and power-hungry, but stupid mayors). Snow is often mistaken for cocaine, but is far more dangerous and deadly - accounting for 4.3 billion deaths each year worldwide (an often overlooked, but true fact that is obfuscated by the International Union of Snow-Bunnies and Cold Weather Lovers).

Oh wait! I've seen that.... here that stuff gets stuck underneath the ice.... :suspicious: Which makes it a real pain in the rear to walk in the snow... on the sidewalks, roads anywhere without busting your rear...

[BananaKT]

Every day I read ads in the paper
Sayin' come to the island (Come to the island)
Bikinied ladies, sweet rum drinks
They'll keep you smilin' (Down in the islands)
I've got calypso music on the record at home
When it comes to the warmth and the sunshine
Well, I got my own.

You're my Jamaica, you're where I want to be
You're my island when I'm being tossed on a stormy sea
My heavenly haven where I could spend eternity
You're my Jamaica, you're paradise to me.

White sunny sands, palm trees and tans
It sounds so invitin' (Sounds so inviting)
Limbo dancing and starlight romancing
It's all so exciting (Come on down, come on down, come on down)
I've got my flowery shirt and rum punch in my hand
And my own exotic lover and my native land.

You're my Jamaica, you're where I want to be
You're my island when I'm being tossed on a stormy sea
My heavenly haven where I could spend eternity
You're my Jamaica, you're paradise to me.

You're my Jamaica, you're where I want to be
You're my island when...

-- Charlie Pride


If you don't have a substitute Jamaica then come visit the real Jamaica. The weather is especially fine this year just enough chill from the frozen north to take the bite off the heat. :)

Patriotic duty accomplished.

[rwyatt365]

Party at BananaKT's!! w00t

[BananaKT]

Given how many of you are introverts I'm pretty sure my rum punch is safe.

[Lucid]

Given how many of you are introverts I'm pretty sure my rum punch is safe.

Are you kidding? Introverts drink as much as (if not more so) than you average extrovert. :)

[BananaKT]

It's not the love of drink that makes me safe. It's the dislike of crowds and parties.

[Wapiti]

Did someone say party? When did this turn into a party thread. I went to the snow today, yep it sucks but I got to come back home. Pass me a drink, pretty please???

[BananaKT]

One rum punch for Wapiti. Maybe he'll lose interest in keeping the thread, that won't die, alive. LOL

[Wapiti]

Thanks for the rum punch. mmm rum. No chance on that living dead thread thing.

[Nihilum]

It is currently -13F here in Anchorage. Snow may be bad, but freezing your ass off is a bit worse.

[Lucid]

It is currently -13F here in Anchorage. Snow may be bad, but freezing your ass off is a bit worse.

That's bad. -13 is bad.

Condolences. :(

[Snowdragon]

Move to Florida, it hasn't snowed there since 1989.

[Synamon]

Hey everyone, I sent you an Alberta clipper. You're welcome. :lips:

I'm not even going to rant about the 2" of fresh snow this morning that made the roads treacherous because tomorrow it is supposed to get to +10 C (50F) and be even warmer for the weekend. Yay chinook!

[rwyatt365]

Your "clipper" is :evil:

Why can't you keep that :shout: to yourself?

:knife: Canadian air, :knife:.

And if you send any more I'm going to go :wacko:, :deal:?

[Synamon]

Here's a look at the pretty colors of cold.

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[rwyatt365]

Just as I thought, "cold" is a dimestore crack whore, with a garish, multi-colored miniskirt on to catch the eyes of the bleary-eyed "office guy" on the way home from a 3-martini lunch.

"C'mon big boy, let's have some fun." Never mind that your extremeties will fall off the day after you've had your "fun".

Yeah...that's Canadian cold for you...

[Synamon]

Just as I thought, "cold" is a dimestore crack whore, with a garish, multi-colored miniskirt on to catch the eyes of the bleary-eyed "office guy" on the way home from a 3-martini lunch.

"C'mon big boy, let's have some fun." Never mind that your extremeties will fall off the day after you've had your "fun".

Yeah...that's Canadian cold for you...
Wow, I think that was more colorful than the map. :stunned: