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Synamon
01-21-2009, 04:30 PM
There has been a lot said in various threads about compatibility and INTJs wanting to find other INTJs for relationships. Here (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) is a study that was about this subject.
When researchers Tieger and Barron-Tieger examined couples on the S/N, T/F, and J/P scales, they found that, in general, more similar couples experienced a higher rate of satisfaction with their partner. However, there were some combinations that worked well despite having fewer preferences in common, and some pairings of similar partners that weren’t quite so successful.
Specific to NT - NT pairings:
Intuitive Thinking types (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ) have only a 59% satisfaction rate when paired with another Intuitive Thinker. These types tend to be among the most critical of their partners and may be harder to please in general.
This was in contrast to SJ and NF same type couples who had 79% and 73% satisfaction rates, respectively. It was better than STPs who came in at only 33%.
The article has other information about relationships that was also interesting.
SShack
01-21-2009, 04:56 PM
My rational, reasonable opinion is that they can go straight to hell.
Shinqui
01-21-2009, 05:03 PM
The question on everyone's mind may very well be, what percentage of INTJ's were happy with their non INTJ partner. Less than 59 percent perhaps? After all, we are very good at finding fault.
SShack
01-21-2009, 05:13 PM
The question on everyone's mind may very well be, what percentage of INTJ's were happy with their non INTJ partner. Less than 59 percent perhaps? After all, we are very good at finding fault.
It is notable that they only pointed out that our compatibility percentage with each other was not the best, but didn't point out any other types we meshed better with. The vague reference being more critical in general doesn't suggest there were better matches.
Synamon
01-21-2009, 05:15 PM
Did you see the 31% satisfaction number for all women married to INTP men? :laugh:
If we took those INTP men out of the mix maybe the NT-NT numbers would be higher.
At least NT-NT was better than the STP matchup.
Santana28
01-21-2009, 05:20 PM
Thats funny. I'm strictly attracted to NT types... in fact, its almost a prerequisite with me. I simply can't get close to anyone i can't relate to mentally. As far as constant criticism goes... whats so bad about that? Seems like something only an F type would whine and complain about and hold against their partner.... not a fellow NT?
azelismia
01-21-2009, 05:57 PM
There has been a lot said in various threads about compatibility and INTJs wanting to find other INTJs for relationships. Here (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) is a study that was about this subject.
Specific to NT - NT pairings:
This was in contrast to SJ and NF same type couples who had 79% and 73% satisfaction rates, respectively. It was better than STPs who came in at only 33%.
The article has other information about relationships that was also interesting.
the intp men comment was all other types married to intp males. While some of the things in this "study" make sense (n and s do not mix) Where are hte hard numbers, they can throw out percentages, but how big was their sampling? 10? 100? 10000? I am guessing their pool wasn't very large. Also were socioeconomic similarities in the couples taken in to consideration, were all these people coming from a similar place? This study sets off some BS alarms for me in that there wasn't more said on the matter. It looks to me more like a sales gimmick than an actual study.
karenk
01-21-2009, 11:03 PM
Did you see the 31% satisfaction number for all women married to INTP men? :laugh:
If we took those INTP men out of the mix maybe the NT-NT numbers would be higher.
At least NT-NT was better than the STP matchup.
INTPs consistently have the poorest results in studies about marriage satisfaction. :p What's the real reason for this?
JohnDoe
01-21-2009, 11:10 PM
Thats funny. I'm strictly attracted to NT types... in fact, its almost a prerequisite with me. I simply can't get close to anyone i can't relate to mentally. As far as constant criticism goes... whats so bad about that? Seems like something only an F type would whine and complain about and hold against their partner.... not a fellow NT?
Be careful with assigning intelligence via type, its a good way to be wrong. The ability of someone to think critically nothing to do with how they prefer to make their decisions. Not all of us F types are exactly helpless flowers either. Some of us can dual with the best of you.
Some types are more likely to marry a person of their same type; this includes male INFPs, INFJs and INTPs and female ENFJs and INFJs.
I can see and understand that.
I also notice NF's did very well, I wonder what it is if you split out NFJ vs NFP.
Anyone got the original papers?
Santana28
01-21-2009, 11:32 PM
Be careful with assigning intelligence via type, its a good way to be wrong. The ability of someone to think critically nothing to do with how they prefer to make their decisions. Not all of us F types are exactly helpless flowers either. Some of us can dual with the best of you.
That's a very F response; i was doing nothing of the sort. I have some extremely intelligent F friends who i get along with better than the majority of people i come into contact with on a daily basis. HOWEVER, raw intelligence is nothing - its all about the way you process information and how you reach your conclusions. I can have a grand ole time arguing with an intelligent F, but we will look at things from different angles inherently. The mutual trust and understanding that comes along in a relationship (at least mine) stem from a similar approach to observing and judging the world... that, and i'm just not very attracted to SF types. Even intelligent ones.
JohnDoe
01-21-2009, 11:40 PM
Haha oops, maybe I proved your point. Well, thats my fault, I tend to get defensive on here because of the number of people who take the if your not a NT your stupid attitude at times and the wording was kindof ambiguous ( and thus my post wasn't too harsh). You do know that not all F's are SF's :)
Santana28
01-21-2009, 11:45 PM
Haha oops, maybe I proved your point. Well, thats my fault, I tend to get defensive on here because of the number of people who take the if your not a NT your stupid attitude at times and the wording was kindof ambiguous ( and thus my post wasn't too harsh). You do know that not all F's are SF's :)
Maybe you did ;) hehe
Actually, i recently had somewhat of a fling with an ENFP... a very intelligent one. I wasn't physically attracted to him at all, and we did nothing but argue constantly.. but it was such a drastic change from what either one of us usually associated with that we kind of bonded over it. Of course, eventually he demanded that i tell him i loved him (to make him feel better), moved away, and cut off all contact with me whatsoever. And i'm left sitting here saying "But i thought we were friends!" LOL
Vagrant
01-22-2009, 12:24 AM
INTPs consistently have the poorest results in studies about marriage satisfaction. :p What's the real reason for this?
Trust me, if you know an INTP personally, you'll be able to see why.
They're great people, really. But INTx's in general are very bad at empathy and relating to others (INTX's are exceedingly rare, private people). In general, we catch a lot of flak in relationships for this fault. However, in the INTJ's, we're lucky because of the J -- that little factor that makes us the perfectionists. It means that even though as INTJ's we suck at social skills, we will work our ass off to make it work (at one point, I was willing to completely restart from scratch for a girl I loved). It's the reason some of us are so great in bed (*toots horn*). INTP's, well, not to be rude to them, but they aren't likely to work as hard at a relationship. They're constantly looking at new ideas, but not necessarily bringing them into fruition.
Oh, and my only prerequisite for a partner is that they be a female intuitor. I don't think I could stand being with a sensor.
Firebrand9
01-22-2009, 04:32 AM
INTPs consistently have the poorest results in studies about marriage satisfaction. :p What's the real reason for this?
The P. Hates closure...
Firebrand9 added to this post, 4 minutes and 23 seconds later...
Be careful with assigning intelligence via type, its a good way to be wrong. The ability of someone to think critically nothing to do with how they prefer to make their decisions. Not all of us F types are exactly helpless flowers either. Some of us can dual with the best of you.
I can see and understand that.
I also notice NF's did very well, I wonder what it is if you split out NFJ vs NFP.
Anyone got the original papers?
She wasn't assigning intelligence to it. Simply cold rational logic that the T types utilize (critical thinking that we excel at). And sure, F types are not necessarily stupid. Everyone here know that. Problem is, emotional judgments tend to be more error-prone than dealing in facts.
Hatsumomo1
01-22-2009, 10:52 AM
Thats funny. I'm strictly attracted to NT types... in fact, its almost a prerequisite with me. I simply can't get close to anyone i can't relate to mentally. As far as constant criticism goes... whats so bad about that? Seems like something only an F type would whine and complain about and hold against their partner.... not a fellow NT?
It's the opposite for me. I need an IxFx. I think extroverts make me envious, and having another NT around makes the relationship quite dry, IMHO. They do make great friends, however. Very low maintenance.
Yes, F's do tend to take things more to heart than they should, but I'm willing to work with that so I can reap the benefits. It's nice to cuddle every once in a while and be reminded that I'm not a complete robot.
karenk
01-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Problem is, emotional judgments tend to be more error-prone than dealing in facts.
Just clarifying that a feeling preference does not mean judgements are based on emotions. It means they're based on values. Thinking types still tend to find this a little absurd. That's because it would be absurd for someone with a thinking preference to do this. That method would be too underdeveloped to be the most effective.
Firebrand9
01-26-2009, 06:54 PM
Just clarifying that a feeling preference does not mean judgements are based on emotions.
Um, no. That's exactly what it means.
Henry
01-26-2009, 07:28 PM
There has been a lot said in various threads about compatibility and INTJs wanting to find other INTJs for relationships. Here (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) is a study that was about this subject.
Specific to NT - NT pairings:
This was in contrast to SJ and NF same type couples who had 79% and 73% satisfaction rates, respectively. It was better than STPs who came in at only 33%.
The article has other information about relationships that was also interesting.
SJ and NF are fundamentally cooperative. NTs are pretty individualistic, and SPs are often downright oppositional for the hell of it.
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