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rocksteady
11-29-2007, 07:34 PM
Artificial intelligence for those unaware.

Who wants to bet the first A.I is modeled on the brain of an INTJ?

logan235711
11-29-2007, 07:46 PM
Let's see...INTJ=1/16th of MBTI types. So non-INTJ=15/16ths. Sure I'll take you up on that bet!

OneBadMother
11-29-2007, 07:53 PM
I think the first artificial intelligence will be more of an ISTJ, simply because it sounds like the easiest one to program.

qwerty
11-29-2007, 08:45 PM
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NuPIC implements a hierarchical temporal memory system (HTM) patterned after the human neocortex. We expect NuPIC to be used on problems that, generally speaking, involve identifying patterns in complex data. The ultimate applications likely will include vision systems, robotics, data mining and analysis, and failure analysis and prediction.

Hmm that's getting close?

HackerX
11-29-2007, 08:49 PM
Why would the first AI have any personalitity whatsoever?

OneBadMother
11-29-2007, 08:56 PM
Ambition on the part of the programmers or some kind of general Prometheus complex? :P

Drayakir
11-29-2007, 09:34 PM
Actually, I'd think an INTP. They seem more like data-gathering computers than us. We're more like analytical computers.

Besides, I really doubt the first couple of AIs will have personalities. They would be too uncomplicated and stupid to have one.

rocksteady
11-30-2007, 03:41 PM
I think INTP is actually closer, you are right.

The reason i say this, is because many people are predicting that in order to have sentient conscious AI, you just have to map the brain, and reproduce it in software, so I'm am assuming whatever brain they map will determine the personality of the A.I

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I think the first artificial intelligence will be more of an ISTJ, simply because it sounds like the easiest one to program.

I don't think the first true AI's will actually be heavily programed, just based on a brain map. Obviously there will be some level of programming, but I think the majority of the information will be pre-determined.

OneBadMother
12-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Well yeah, but if you have a lot of pre-determined information with relatively primitive pattern-determination ability, that would be an SJ. :P The IT would come from it being more difficult to successfully synthesize an empathetic AI that can easily determine social cues.

elfece
01-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Hehh, it will be a 'social robot' much like some INTJs are :p

xhaan
01-04-2008, 09:13 PM
Well yeah, but if you have a lot of pre-determined information with relatively primitive pattern-determination ability, that would be an SJ. :P The IT would come from it being more difficult to successfully synthesize an empathetic AI that can easily determine social cues.

Don't have to be social to be intelligent, it just has to perceive, and then act independently, or think. We already have very simple A.I. None may have very complex logic yet, or emotive thinking, they are just a predetermined routine with various options to choose from... I feel this is the first step, however.

I think to determine what the first 'true' A.I. will be, you have to define what a true A.I. really is. Does it have to be emotive? Fully autonomous? Only partly autonomous? Independently learning?

What makes a true A.I.?

I also think that if 'true' A.I. means an attempt to fully duplicate a human brain, then this is asking for trouble, on so many levels.

rocksteady
01-05-2008, 09:44 PM
Don't have to be social to be intelligent, it just has to perceive, and then act independently, or think. We already have very simple A.I. None may have very complex logic yet, or emotive thinking, they are just a predetermined routine with various options to choose from... I feel this is the first step, however.

I think to determine what the first 'true' A.I. will be, you have to define what a true A.I. really is. Does it have to be emotive? Fully autonomous? Only partly autonomous? Independently learning?

What makes a true A.I.?

I also think that if 'true' A.I. means an attempt to fully duplicate a human brain, then this is asking for trouble, on so many levels.

That is a really good question, and I will be probably be able to give you an answer when I finish this book -
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BadMojo
01-05-2008, 09:44 PM
I believe it would be ESNP.

OmegaPsi
01-08-2008, 12:47 PM
Nah were too 'cold'. The concepts of robots was to be kind and warm.

desg90
01-10-2008, 08:50 PM
Nah were too 'cold'. The concepts of robots was to be kind and warm.

Or to act as though they were.
I mean. Many robotic/virtual pets react to external stimuli, thus emulating dialogue or basic feelings. Even if they were programed to hoodwink people just like David in A.I. (movie), they would still emulate feelings and thoughts (which is the definition of A.I.: If a man can't know the difference between a robot and a human being during a conversation then, the robot has "A.I. Inside".

So, if they want to commercialize A.I., it will surely not be an INTJ.
Who would want to buy a robot or program with a curt personality? :p
Surely, they would act as humans, but their actions wouldn't be the most pleasant.

That wouldn't be good for the A.I. industry.
So, they must work in a different personality type. :laugh:

DeadSpace
01-31-2008, 12:20 AM
Think elfece and rocksteady in opening have it right, logical core, external modules to handle social interaction based on personality modeling and history with that particular human/personality type. Since the choosing process for correct responses would be near instantaneous, at least from an observers perspective, their would be no seeming hesitation from emotional input to expected emotional output. AI would feel nothing...just a series of conditional choices, but it would appear to feel. All that it really needs to get by...so it would be intj. if you could use human personality modeling for a machine mind. It could appear as any type, with adaptive personality interface routines. It would not be 100% accurate.
The more accurate responses at or near 100% seem unlikely, it would have to have the ability to analyze tone(s) of voice...even under/over tones in a normal speaking voice, analyze body language, facial expressions...especially the small ones, eye movement, pupil dilation. THEN choose wether those perceptions of that individuals emotional state are truly what that person is attempting to project...since humans quite often hide true feelings behind other feelings. If AI chooses the real emotional state over the projected one, could cause anger. Poor AI could spend nearly all it's processing power on just one distraught teen :\ . End up catatonic (infinite loop)
i do apologize for being a tad long winded -.-

thod
01-31-2008, 04:39 AM
Think elfece and rocksteady in opening have it right, logical core, external modules

Other way around. The core would be it the emotional side. The desire to avoid harm coming out as fear and anxiety. The desire to meets needs coming out as lusts. Both of these require interaction.

The logical machine is simply the mechanism not the core. It decides how you will meet needs not what the needs are. You must give your AI basic drives if it is to be an AI. The AI will figure out how to meet its needs. Logical behavoiur is an emergent property.

mashwoo
04-08-2008, 07:12 AM
The only motivation I can think to give an A.I. machine what appears to humans as any level of emotional intelligence would be to improve its ability to communicate, interact or provide company and support to humans. Why then would you give it the personality of an INTJ when we are not known for our social skills.

Another possibility would be to give it the ability to simulate all possible emotions and then a set of hard wired objectives. Let the A.I learn through trial and error which emotional actions result in the desired objective. If its objective was to get people to converse with it perhaps it would "learn" to simulate empathy and sympathy.

ChfMojoRising
04-09-2008, 01:22 AM
By "true A.I." you mean one that could pass a Turing test~ I think the first would have to base it's external world around pre-programmed expectations (Introspective) and then define outside objects based on as many similarities it can find with other defined objects (Sensing). With currently styled processors which use boolean logic (and, or, not) and including floating-point calculations, the act of defining information becomes an act of nigh predictable process (Thinking). Lastly, the need to create its perception of the world with external information makes so that every process is based off of what the A.I. can perceive (Perceiving)

ISTP~ make sense to anyone?

Duncan Cade
04-09-2008, 09:18 AM
I'd say ISTP

I'm not sure wether I/E is important. The need to be around others could just be some variable, easily changed by switching some numbers.
I know there's more in I/E than only that, but still..